Trump Is Going To Lose Most Of The Current Federal Court Cases....Then What?

[The Sage of Main Street]

Jan 6th happened for a reason. You’re too stupid to understand what it was.

Americans Squeezed from Both Sides

The underlying but unexpressed reason was the Sick Sixties' Voting Rights Act and Immigration Act. Many GOPers voted for those two anti-majority decrees.

If members of society cannot vote on who can become new members, that is tyranny.

 

[BackAgain]

What source tells you that jurisdiction means allegiance to our nation ?

Debates That Led To The Creation Of The Fourteenth Amendment : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

This is congressional record that catalogs the discussions that took place which led to the creation of the 14th amendment.

archive.org

It’s a long read.

I have already replied to the suggestion as to the Indians being subject to our jurisdiction. They are not subject to our jurisdiction in the sense of owing allegiance solely to the United States; and the Senator from Maryland, if he will look into our statutes, will search in vain for any means of trying these wild Indians. A person can only be tried for a criminal offense in pursuance of laws, and he must be tried in a district which must have been fixed by law before the crime was committed. We have had in this country, and have today, a large region of country within the territorial limits of the United States, unorganized, over which we do not pretend to exercise any civil or criminal jurisdiction, where wild tribes of Indians roam at pleasure, subject to their own laws and regulations, and we do not pretend to interfere with them. They would not be embraced by this provision.
For these reasons I think this language is better than the language employed by the civil rights bill.

Id at 49 quoting Sen. Trumbull. (My emphasis added.)

There is a great deal more.

But the import of the debates makes it clear: section 1 of the 14th Amendment came into being (in part) based upon how it was explained and understood at the time of the debates which led to its eventual passage.

If a U.S. citizen couple travels to Mexico and happens to give birth to their baby on Mexican soil, does Mexico claim that child as a Mexican citizen? Let’s say Mexico had a Constitutional provision like our 14th Amendment. Would you argue that the American citizen parents owe no allegiance to the U.S.?

Well, similarly, a child born here of an illegal alien couple in our land has parents who continue to have allegiance to their own native land.

You see, this involves the interpretation of the entire first section of the 14th Amendment. Not just the limited use of criminal law “jurisdiction.” But about how “jurisdiction” means “and owing allegiance solely to the United States.”

 

[Slade3200]

Only a narcissist would do that. Are you a narcissist, Slade?

I disagree and I don’t think I’m a narcissist. If that’s how you want to see me then that’s your call

 

[Slade3200]

Passport

Source?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I disagree and I don’t think I’m a narcissist. If that’s how you want to see me then that’s your call

I won This debate and you lost. Again.

 

[Slade3200]

I won This debate and you lost. Again.

Good for you. Such a prized debate to win as well. I hope you’re proud

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Good for you. Such a prized debate to win as well. I hope you’re proud

Not really.
You’re not much of a challenge.

Btw all jokes aside, just about everything that I said would happen…well has happened.

I told You the Democratic Party went too far left and that the trans bs would crush em. I was Right.

 

[Slade3200]

Not really.
You’re not much of a challenge.

Btw all jokes aside, just about everything that I said would happen…well has happened.

I told You the Democratic Party went too far left and that the trans bs would crush em. I was Right.

The Democratic Party did go too far left. I don’t think the trans issue was the thing that crushed them but it certainly didn’t help them

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

The Democratic Party did go too far left. I don’t think the trans issue was the thing that crushed them but it certainly didn’t help them

It was the final straw. As I knew it would be.

I will enjoy the next 4 yrs of your TDS, Slade.

 

[BackAgain]

"The Constitution Is Not a Suicide Pact"

Flashing that obsolete elitist manifesto in my eyes doesn't blind me. It doesn't even make me blink.

It’s actually a truism. That is the explanation for what you can’t see.

 

[BackAgain]

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/why-trump-is-right-about-birthright-citizenship-14th-amendment-citizenship-clause-f63df08a

Good read.

 

[Frankenstein]

What does that have to do with anything?

They are leftist appointed activist judges, doing the bidding of the democrat party, they are nothing but obstructionists

 

[Slade3200]

It was the final straw. As I knew it would be.

I will enjoy the next 4 yrs of your TDS, Slade.

Strange that My TDS would bring you enjoyment but whatever floats your boat I guess

 

[Slade3200]

They are leftist appointed activist judges, doing the bidding of the democrat party, they are nothing but obstructionists

Cheap excuses. Yawn

 

[JGalt]

It was the final straw. As I knew it would be.

I will enjoy the next 4 yrs of your TDS, Slade.

TDS is just a combination of meth and rabies.

 

[elektra]

Trump will lose his court cases because what he is doing is illegal.

Then we can expect a criminal charge for each executive order. Which law, exactly will he be charged with?

 

[j-mac]

Then we can expect a criminal charge for each executive order. Which law, exactly will he be charged with?

If that turns out to be the case, then we are done as a great nation…but that was always the plan, right?

 

[elektra]

If that turns out to be the case, then we are done as a great nation…but that was always the plan, right?

There would have to be a law that congress wrote that specifically addresses or makes certain executive orders illegal. There is no such law.

 

[Slade3200]

Then we can expect a criminal charge for each executive order. Which law, exactly will he be charged with?

Illegal is not the same as criminal. People sue legislative actions all the time in order to get them blocked or amended so they comply with law. You had to have known that, right??

 

[jc456]

I don't expect the Judiciary, which is made up of lawyers that give up to 99.99999$ of all their money to the DNC, to side with Trump.

What I do expect, however, is for Trump to raise the awareness of the corruption within the system among the masses who all hate lawyers for good reason BTW, and take it from there.

Lawyers have destroyed the country. Trump is not one, luckily.

the one issue they must all get around is who has standing in these cases. I don't see any with standing like the 2020 cases for election interference trump entered. They claimed he had no standing even though his name was on the ballot. Weird shit how that standing thing works. But a state official has zero standing on federal business.