trump is demanding Panama returns the canal

[Arlette]

No, the treaty called for neutrality, not giving the ports to the CCP. Never said it wasn't, hence why we paid them for the land and to build the canal

The ports are owned by the CCP? Are you sure?

 

[Arlette]

No, I am not worried about the Panama military

Me neither because Trumpy said there ain't gonna be any new wars.

 

[yidnar]

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“It was not given for the benefit of others, but merely as a token of cooperation with us and Panama,” Trump said. “If the principles, both moral and legal, of this magnanimous gesture of giving are not followed, then we will demand that the Panama Canal be returned to us, in full, and without question. To the Officials of Panama, please be guided accordingly!”

Do you think it will happen before or after Mexico pays for the wall?

But seriously, does this sound like the ravings of a madman or a reasonable person to you?

We are gonna be a laughingstock again before he even takes office.

and yet another example of strong leadership being shown by Trump ! as far as a laughing stock goes we were laughed at by the world when Carter gave the Panama Canal away ..

 

[22lcidw]

There is something called the gap in Panama. Illegals cross it. We take it over. No more illegals crossing Panama.

 

[Contumacious]

The ports are owned by the CCP? Are you sure?

"Chinese companies have been heavily involved in infrastructure-related contracts in and around the Canal in Panama’s logistics, electricity, and construction sectors. These projects fit naturally with China’s BRI vision, onto which Panama was the first Latin American country to sign in 2018. This, along with Panama’s recognition of China, boosted China’s already existent footprint in the Canal, and Chinese companies have since positioned themselves at either end of the Panama Canal through port concession agreements. In 2016, in a $900 million deal, the China-based Landbridge Group acquired control of Margarita Island, Panama’s largest port on the Atlantic side and in the Colón Free Trade Zone, the largest free trade zone in the Western Hemisphere. The deal established the Panama-Colón Container Port (PCCP) as a deep-water port for megaships, and the construction and expansion was carried out by the China"

Key Decision Point Coming for the Panama Canal

The Panama Canal sits at the nexus of international political and economic concerns.

www.csis.org

 

[struth]

The ports are owned by the CCP? Are you sure?

This isn't a new issue....i get that Xiden likely didn't discuss it publicly nor do much about it....but it's not a new development

US, China clash over neutrality of drought-hit Panama Canal​

US, China clash over neutrality of drought-hit Panama Canal

Growing Chinese influence over canal sparks concerns at White House, while drought conditions force Maersk to reroute Oceania container traffic over land

www.rivieramm.com

Currently, China controls two of Panama’s five principal zone ports through Hong Kong-based Hutchison, with one on each side of the waterway at Balboa and Cristobal. Chinese companies are finishing work on the Amador Pacific Coast cruise terminal. These follow China-based Landbridge buying control of Margarita Island, Panama’s largest port on the Atlantic side, for US$900M in 2016 and China Communications Construction’s building of a deepwater port.

And according to US trade publication Engineering News-Record, a consortium of Chinese state-owned firms will soon restart construction of a fourth US$1.3Bn bridge across the Canal after at least five years of disputes.

Like other Chinese-initiated projects, the contract for the fourth bridge was signed by Panamanian President Juan Carlos Varela who had, at Beijing’s behest, repudiated Panama’s recognition of Taiwan as a separate country. As Engineering News-Record reports, “Having already ended Panama’s relationship with Taiwan and establishing official diplomatic ties with Beijing in 2017, President Varela made deals with other Chinese companies to build a US$4Bn high-speed rail line connecting Panama City with Costa Rica, US$1Bn in port facilities, an electrical transmission project, convention centre and other facilities.”

 

[TimFitz]

what doesn't make sense to you? I'll try and help you out

You could cite your sources.

You claimed, without evidence as usual, that Americans pay more than other countries for the use of the canal.

you claimed, without evidence, that the United States pays 72% of the revenue the canal takes in.

Which is very odd since the US doesn’t have much of a shipping industry and the US Navy passes for free.

of course, you could back up these claims you made.

I won’t hold my breath.

 

[Nostra]

The ports are owned by the CCP? Are you sure?

One on either end is run by China.

 

[Contumacious]

You could cite your sources.

You claimed, without evidence as usual, that Americans pay more than other countries for the use of the canal.

you claimed, without evidence, that the United States pays 72% of the revenue the canal takes in.

Which is very odd since the US doesn’t have much of a shipping indusr]try and the US Navy passes for free.

of course, you could back up these claims you made.

I won’t hold my breath.

Yo Timmy

How much was the Panama Canal Zone land worth in the early 1900s?

We were the ONLY ones who made it work !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

President Carter screwed up - typical Demon Rat - and we seek to rectify the situation

What's your major malfunction ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

 

[Crepitus]

Only a stupid person looks past the covid outbreak and quotes data including that. Biden canceled the investigation into China and covid. Why is that? Actually I know. You don't need to stress yourself out spinning it crappy boy.

But covid was a hoax, wasn't it?

 

[TimFitz]

Another "America Last Dingleberry"

How much do you want to bet that the fees will be considerably REDUCED and foreign influence there will be eliminated

I have absolutely no doubt that nothing at all will happen.

Trump wanted you talking about something other than the shall a king he took from his own party last week.

So he made this up.

By Christmas, he’ll be on to another BS rant for you to parrot.

And nothing will change in Panama.

 

[Crepitus]

You are in a nasty little cult crappy boy. Seek help stupid ****.

Calm down, ShortBus.

And have a drink with everyone else since you said the "C" word.

 

[Contumacious]

But covid was a hoax, wasn't it?

1000% - an Obama-Brennan-Clapper , et al GARGANTUAN HOAX !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[struth]

You could cite your sources.

You claimed, without evidence as usual, that Americans pay more than other countries for the use of the canal.

you claimed, without evidence, that the United States pays 72% of the revenue the canal takes in.

Which is very odd since the US doesn’t have much of a shipping indusr]try and the US Navy passes for free.

of course, you could back up these claims you made.

I won’t hold my breath.

I provided you the numbers. The evidence are the numbers. You not being aware of this issue, isn't my problem. You are very unaware, it's obvious

hahah no, the US Navy doesn't go trough the canal for free....where do you all get this silly information?

No, US Navy ships do not go through the Panama Canal for free:

• The US government does not subsidize the Panama Canal, and ships that pass through it must pay tolls.
  
  
• The Panama Canal Authority determines the toll rates, which vary based on the type of vessel, its tonnage, and cargo.
  
  
• For example, a private boat under 65 feet in length may pay as little as $2,700 in tolls.

and silly, 2/3rds of all international trade is done by container ships....we are the largest economy in the world and depend a great deal on it.

 

[Arlette]

"Chinese companies have been heavily involved in infrastructure-related contracts in and around the Canal in Panama’s logistics, electricity, and construction sectors. These projects fit naturally with China’s BRI vision, onto which Panama was the first Latin American country to sign in 2018. This, along with Panama’s recognition of China, boosted China’s already existent footprint in the Canal, and Chinese companies have since positioned themselves at either end of the Panama Canal through port concession agreements. In 2016, in a $900 million deal, the China-based Landbridge Group acquired control of Margarita Island, Panama’s largest port on the Atlantic side and in the Colón Free Trade Zone, the largest free trade zone in the Western Hemisphere. The deal established the Panama-Colón Container Port (PCCP) as a deep-water port for megaships, and the construction and expansion was carried out by the China"

Key Decision Point Coming for the Panama Canal

The Panama Canal sits at the nexus of international political and economic concerns.

www.csis.org

Ok. Why didn't we offer Panama a deal they couldn't refuse back when the deals were made?

 

[Crepitus]

Look at my sig, Dim.

An edited video?

That's another form of lying you know.

 

[Arlette]

One on either end is run by China.

And?

 

[TimFitz]

Yo Timmy

How much was the Panama Canal Zone land worth in the early 1900s?

We were the ONLY ones who made it work !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

President Carter screwed up - typical Demon Rat - and we seek to rectify the situation

What's your major malfunction ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

This is nothing other than Trump cofeve.

Trump wants you to forget his big loss in Congress last week. So he made up a shiner new object to diddle you with.

That is all this is. No need to take it seriously at all,

Trump nation is being rope-a-doped by their beloved fuhrer once again.

This time next week, you’ll have forgotten all about it.

 

[Crepitus]

Firstly, I thank the Honorable Donald J Trump from placing the US First;

 

[Contumacious]

I have absolutely no doubt that nothing at all will happen.

Trump wanted you talking about something other than the shall a king he took from his own party last week.

So he made this up.

By Christmas, he’ll be on to another BS rant for you to parrot.

And nothing will change in Panama.

Why are you letting President Trump expose you to these vicissitudes?

Don't you want to move to Venezuela, Cuba, Canada or some other paradise ? Go for it son.