Trump Is Attempting To Achieve Largest Federal Deficit EVAH!

[g5000]

I understand the balance of power. What I don't understand is, for a country of the people, how reasonable is it that leadership of the country is determined through voters given the choice of:

• one candidate in the primary getting 11% of the total votes cast in the presidential election
• while the other major party's candidate got 0%.

That is what doesn't work for me. Our two-party system sucks.

Where do you get these 11 percent and 0 percent numbers from?

Trump got about 30 percent of the primary votes in 2016. I don't remember what percent Clinton got, but it was probably more.

Also, I've lived in countries with multiple major parties, and they are more chaotic than the US.

 

[Lesh]

No it don't.

Wow. You’re that dumb?

 

[kyzr]

You haven't presented any facts.

Look at the difference between Biden's "open borders" and Trump's "closed borders".
CBP Data, CBP website.

Southwest Land Border Encounters

Securing America's Borders

www.cbp.gov

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Bidens debt was roughly the same as Trumps before him.

Both major failures.

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You're half right. Guess that's better than being totally wrong, like your cult-mates.



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[kyzr]

DOGE won't even approach the deficit Trump is going to run up.
It won't even be a drop in the bucket. It will be a microscopic, completely irrelevant amount.
You have been thoroughly gaslighted.

1. What Trump deficit? The Budget isn't appropriated yet.
2. I showed you $600b in slush funds the democrats set up with Podesta, Abrams, and the EPA
3. If/when the Fed cuts interest rates, that will help
4. Tariffs should raise about $600b a year
5. IF Republicans raise the top rate to 40% that will help

So stop gaslighting.

 

[g5000]

$155b saved by DOGE

Nope. That is a figure pulled from three feet up Musk's ass of how much he guesses he will save. That is down from the $1 trillion he previously predicted.

That’s because, when Mr. Musk’s group tallies up its savings so far, it inflates its progress by including billion-dollar errors, by counting spending that will not happen in the next fiscal year — and by making guesses about spending that might not happen at all.

One of the group’s largest claims, in fact, involves canceling a contract that did not exist. Although the government says it had merely asked for proposals in that case, and had not settled on a vendor or a price, Mr. Musk’s group ignored that uncertainty and assigned itself a large and very specific amount of credit for canceling it.


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“They’re just spinning their wheels, citing in many cases overstated or fake savings,” said Romina Boccia, the director of budget and entitlement policy at the libertarian Cato Institute. “What’s most frustrating is that we agree with their goals. But we’re watching them flail at achieving them.”

Mr. Musk’s group did not respond to questions about its claims sent via X, his social-media platform. Mr. Musk previously acknowledged the group might make errors but said they would be corrected.

DOGE Is Far Short of Its Goal, and Still Overstating Its Progress​

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$600b in democrat theft being "clawed back"

Nope.

 

[Lesh]

Look at the difference between Biden's "open borders" and Trump's "closed borders".
CBP Data, CBP website.

View attachment 1101532

Southwest Land Border Encounters

Securing America's Borders

www.cbp.gov

Looks like the numbers were already low and declining before Trump took office

 

[Winston]

No it don't.

I understand, math is hard.

 

[my2¢]

Where do you get these 11 percent and 0 percent numbers from?

The total number of votes Trump got in the Republic primaries divided by the total number of votes casts in November's presidential election. Likewise on the Harris side.

No matter how awful either of these two major political parties are, neither is going away under our current system. Now if we consistently had elections where the top choice was Republican vs Republican or Democrat vs Democrat, the message would sink through the losing party's head that they need to change their ways and represent the people.

 

[g5000]

1. What Trump deficit? The Budget isn't appropriated yet.

Read the OP articles.

2. I showed you $600b in slush funds the democrats set up with Podesta, Abrams, and the EPA

You showed me propaganda that in no way shows $600 billion is coming back.

3. If/when the Fed cuts interest rates, that will help

That is a Trump pipe dream. The Fed is not going to lower interest rates when Trump is doing all he can to drive up inflation.

Trump demanded the Fed lower interest rates during his first term. Its a good thing they didn't listen to the self-proclaimed "King of Debt" because that would have made the subsequent inflation even worse.

You know why Trump wants lower interest rates? Because he is about to set a record deficit (borrowing).

4. Tariffs should raise about $600b a year

Not even close. And you ASSUME those tariffs will stand.

5. IF Republicans raise the top rate to 40% that will help

So stop gaslighting.

Trump plans on raising taxes on the rich. I've posted that here before.

However, there are so many loopholes and carve-outs for the rich in the tax code, it won't make a bit of difference.

The wealthy have paid good money to both parties to create and maintain those tax expenditures.

Oh, yeah. Trump and the Republicans have already baked in a $5 trillion increase in the debt ceiling.

Wakey wakey!

 

[elektra]

I understand, math is hard.

Not as hard as understanding spending is, for you.

 

[kyzr]

Looks like the numbers were already low and declining before Trump took office

Are you fucking kidding me? 100,000 a month is low?
After 4-years of open borders and `12,000,000 illegals into the US?
Trump has ZERO admitted into the US, those 10,000 a month are given a hearing date and deported to Mexico.

 

[pknopp]

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You're half right. Guess that's better than being totally wrong, like your cult-mates.



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You've got the cult position all locked up to yourself.

 

[elektra]

Honey, if the government spends $20 and collects $15, that is a $5 deficit.

If the government spends $20 and collects $10, that is a $10 deficit.

Got it now?

Gee, you can do math but you can't figure out I am a man? You can't see the elektra records label is different than your comic book hero.

Time to end government spending and your idea that I have to pay for your proclivities.

 

[g5000]

Gee, you can do math but you can't figure out I am a man? You can't see the elektra records label is different than your comic book hero.

Time to end government spending and your idea that I have to pay for your proclivities.

You aren't willing to pay for Trump and the GOP's overspending?

You should raise your voice! And you should vote accordingly in the primaries!

 

[kyzr]

Nope. That is a figure pulled from three feet up Musk's ass of how much he guesses he will save. That is down from the $1 trillion he previously predicted.

That’s because, when Mr. Musk’s group tallies up its savings so far, it inflates its progress by including billion-dollar errors, by counting spending that will not happen in the next fiscal year — and by making guesses about spending that might not happen at all.

One of the group’s largest claims, in fact, involves canceling a contract that did not exist. Although the government says it had merely asked for proposals in that case, and had not settled on a vendor or a price, Mr. Musk’s group ignored that uncertainty and assigned itself a large and very specific amount of credit for canceling it.

“They’re just spinning their wheels, citing in many cases overstated or fake savings,” said Romina Boccia, the director of budget and entitlement policy at the libertarian Cato Institute. “What’s most frustrating is that we agree with their goals. But we’re watching them flail at achieving them.”

Mr. Musk’s group did not respond to questions about its claims sent via X, his social-media platform. Mr. Musk previously acknowledged the group might make errors but said they would be corrected.

DOGE is a work in progress. Treasury has no cost-controls, the other departments are also very lax.

Nope. [$600b in democrat theft being "clawed back" ]

Yep.

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DOGE: Department of Government Efficiency

DOGE: Department of Government Efficiency

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$155b saved...and counting.

That's not counting the mess in Medicaid, Welfare, the DOD (never passed an audit), etc.

 

[pknopp]

DOGE is a work in progress. Treasury has no cost-controls, the other departments are also very lax.

DOGE is done.

 

[g5000]

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You're half right. Guess that's better than being totally wrong, like your cult-mates.



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It always amazes me Trump cultists actually bleev the GOP is more fiscally responsible than the Dems.

It is firmly embedded in your deluded bleef system!

 

[elektra]

You aren't willing to pay for Trump and the GOP's overspending?

You should raise your voice! And you should vote accordingly in the primaries!

Ah, you are here to spew your bullshit.
Yes, Trump is rebuilding the navy and you don't like it

 

[g5000]

DOGE is a work in progress.

Musk is out by the end of May.

Treasury has no cost-controls, the other departments are also very lax.

Trump's Treasury Secretary is so fed up with Trump's lunacy, he may be about to walk.

I don't understand why people on the inside are so shocked to discover Trump is a moron. This is something they should have already known.