CDZ Trump: "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose any voters"

What makes Trump supporters tick? This is an interesting analysis and makes a lot of sense. Please discuss, civily, the ideas in the analysis.

"During and after World War II, psychologists conceived of the authoritarian personality as a pattern of attitudes and values revolving around adherence to society’s traditional norms, submission to authorities who personify or reinforce those norms, and antipathy—to the point of hatred and aggression—toward those who either challenge in-group norms or lie outside their orbit. Among white Americans, high scores on measures of authoritarianism today tend to be associated with prejudice against a wide range of “out-groups,” including homosexuals, African Americans, immigrants, and Muslims. Authoritarianism is also associated with suspiciousness of the humanities and the arts, and with cognitive rigidity, militaristic sentiments, and Christian fundamentalism.

When individuals with authoritarian proclivities fear that their way of life is being threatened, they may turn to strong leaders who promise to keep them safe—leaders like Donald Trump. In a national poll conducted recently by the political scientist Matthew MacWilliams, high levels of authoritarianism emerged as the single strongest predictor of expressing political support for Donald Trump. Trump’s promise to build a wall on the Mexican border to keep illegal immigrants out and his railing against Muslims and other outsiders have presumably fed that dynamic.

As the social psychologist Jesse Graham has noted, Trump appeals to an ancient fear of contagion, which analogizes out-groups to parasites, poisons, and other impurities. In this regard, it is perhaps no psychological accident that Trump displays a phobia of germs, and seems repulsed by bodily fluids, especially women’s. He famously remarked that Megyn Kelly of Fox News had “blood coming out of her wherever,” and he repeatedly characterized Hillary Clinton’s bathroom break during a Democratic debate as “disgusting.” Disgust is a primal response to impurity. On a daily basis, Trump seems to experience more disgust, or at least to say he does, than most people do.

The authoritarian mandate is to ensure the security, purity, and goodness of the in-group—to keep the good stuff in and the bad stuff out. In the 1820s, white settlers in Georgia and other frontier areas lived in constant fear of American Indian tribes. They resented the federal government for not keeping them safe from what they perceived to be a mortal threat and a corrupting contagion. Responding to these fears, President Jackson pushed hard for the passage of the Indian Removal Act, which eventually led to the forced relocation of 45,000 American Indians. At least 4,000 Cherokees died on the Trail of Tears, which ran from Georgia to the Oklahoma territory.

An American strand of authoritarianism may help explain why the thrice-married, foul-mouthed Donald Trump should prove to be so attractive to white Christian evangelicals. As Jerry Falwell Jr. told The New York Times in February, “All the social issues—traditional family values, abortion—are moot if isis blows up some of our cities or if the borders are not fortified.” Rank-and-file evangelicals “are trying to save the country,” Falwell said. Being “saved” has a special resonance among evangelicals—saved from sin and damnation, of course, but also saved from the threats and impurities of a corrupt and dangerous world.

When my research associates and I once asked politically conservative Christians scoring high on authoritarianism to imagine what their life (and their world) might have been like had they never found religious faith, many described utter chaos—families torn apart, rampant infidelity and hate, cities on fire, the inner rings of hell. By contrast, equally devout politically liberal Christians who scored low on authoritarianism described a barren world depleted of all resources, joyless and bleak, like the arid surface of the moon. For authoritarian Christians, a strong faith—like a strong leader—saves them from chaos and tamps down fears and conflicts. Donald Trump is a savior, even if he preens and swears, and waffles on the issue of abortion.

In December, on the campaign trail in Raleigh, North Carolina, Trump stoked fears in his audience by repeatedly saying that “something bad is happening” and “something really dangerous is going on.” He was asked by a 12-year-old girl from Virginia, “I’m scared—what are you going to do to protect this country?”

Trump responded: “You know what, darling? You’re not going to be scared anymore. They’re going to be scared.” "


The Narcissist

It’s called humor. This particular joke uses something called hyperbole.

Definition of HYPERBOLE

And all his tweets do as well? BS, what comes out of a man's mouth is what is inside of him. This comes from scripture, the tongue is the most dangerous weapon.

So you’re mad that he is honest when he talks and tweets?

Honest???
The title of the thread nails Trumpsters perfectly.
Trumps lies get verified with proof and the Trumpsters follow suit with Trumps biggest lie, "FAKE NEWS".
Which is the exact action of some of the world's most famous authoritarians.
https://www.eui.eu/Documents/DepartmentsCentres/Economics/Seminarsevents/Guriev-Micro.pdf
Authoritarianism and Trump | Comparative Studies in Society and History
A brief history of 'Lügenpresse,' the Nazi-era predecessor to Trump's 'fake news'
 
Here's an interesting piece. Foreign Affairs;
Top 10 Signs of Creeping Authoritarianism, Revisited
We’re now a bit more than six months into Trump’s presidency, and it is high time to review the list and see how America is doing. Has Trump undermined America’s constitutional order? Is he consolidating executive power the way democratically elected leaders such as Russia’s Vladimir Putin and Turkey’s Recep Tayyip Erdogan have? Or are U.S. institutions holding up reasonably well, either because they have proved to be surprisingly resilient or because Trump has been less adept at politics than he claimed to be?
The record is mixed. Although some of the warning signs are flashing red, others are glowing yellow (at worst), and one or two don’t seem that worrisome at all. My worst fears of further democratic breakdown have not been confirmed — thus far — though in some cases it is not for want of trying.
Below are the signs of an authoritarian regime. I just posted the grade, the explanations cane be found at the link that I provided.
1, Systematic efforts to intimidate the media: Check
2, Building an official pro-Trump media network: Partial check
3, Politicizing the civil service, military, National Guard, or the domestic security agencies: Partial check.

4, Using government surveillance against domestic political opponents: Nothing yet.
5, Using state power to reward corporate backers and punish opponents" Worrisome, but not a big problem so far.
6, Stacking the Supreme Court: Partial Check
7, Enforcing the law for only one side: Blinking red

8, Really rigging the system: Blinking Red
9, Fear-mongering: Check
10, Demonizing the opposition; Check (but he's not alone)
Top 10 Signs of Creeping Authoritarianism, Revisited
For those who want to cry "fake news".
"Sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations this prestigious periodical presents divergent views on foreign policy issues."
LibGuides: Detecting Bias: Leanings of Magazines, Newspapers


 
What makes Trump supporters tick? This is an interesting analysis and makes a lot of sense. Please discuss, civily, the ideas in the analysis.

"During and after World War II, psychologists conceived of the authoritarian personality as a pattern of attitudes and values revolving around adherence to society’s traditional norms, submission to authorities who personify or reinforce those norms, and antipathy—to the point of hatred and aggression—toward those who either challenge in-group norms or lie outside their orbit. Among white Americans, high scores on measures of authoritarianism today tend to be associated with prejudice against a wide range of “out-groups,” including homosexuals, African Americans, immigrants, and Muslims. Authoritarianism is also associated with suspiciousness of the humanities and the arts, and with cognitive rigidity, militaristic sentiments, and Christian fundamentalism.

When individuals with authoritarian proclivities fear that their way of life is being threatened, they may turn to strong leaders who promise to keep them safe—leaders like Donald Trump. In a national poll conducted recently by the political scientist Matthew MacWilliams, high levels of authoritarianism emerged as the single strongest predictor of expressing political support for Donald Trump. Trump’s promise to build a wall on the Mexican border to keep illegal immigrants out and his railing against Muslims and other outsiders have presumably fed that dynamic.

As the social psychologist Jesse Graham has noted, Trump appeals to an ancient fear of contagion, which analogizes out-groups to parasites, poisons, and other impurities. In this regard, it is perhaps no psychological accident that Trump displays a phobia of germs, and seems repulsed by bodily fluids, especially women’s. He famously remarked that Megyn Kelly of Fox News had “blood coming out of her wherever,” and he repeatedly characterized Hillary Clinton’s bathroom break during a Democratic debate as “disgusting.” Disgust is a primal response to impurity. On a daily basis, Trump seems to experience more disgust, or at least to say he does, than most people do.

The authoritarian mandate is to ensure the security, purity, and goodness of the in-group—to keep the good stuff in and the bad stuff out. In the 1820s, white settlers in Georgia and other frontier areas lived in constant fear of American Indian tribes. They resented the federal government for not keeping them safe from what they perceived to be a mortal threat and a corrupting contagion. Responding to these fears, President Jackson pushed hard for the passage of the Indian Removal Act, which eventually led to the forced relocation of 45,000 American Indians. At least 4,000 Cherokees died on the Trail of Tears, which ran from Georgia to the Oklahoma territory.

An American strand of authoritarianism may help explain why the thrice-married, foul-mouthed Donald Trump should prove to be so attractive to white Christian evangelicals. As Jerry Falwell Jr. told The New York Times in February, “All the social issues—traditional family values, abortion—are moot if isis blows up some of our cities or if the borders are not fortified.” Rank-and-file evangelicals “are trying to save the country,” Falwell said. Being “saved” has a special resonance among evangelicals—saved from sin and damnation, of course, but also saved from the threats and impurities of a corrupt and dangerous world.

When my research associates and I once asked politically conservative Christians scoring high on authoritarianism to imagine what their life (and their world) might have been like had they never found religious faith, many described utter chaos—families torn apart, rampant infidelity and hate, cities on fire, the inner rings of hell. By contrast, equally devout politically liberal Christians who scored low on authoritarianism described a barren world depleted of all resources, joyless and bleak, like the arid surface of the moon. For authoritarian Christians, a strong faith—like a strong leader—saves them from chaos and tamps down fears and conflicts. Donald Trump is a savior, even if he preens and swears, and waffles on the issue of abortion.

In December, on the campaign trail in Raleigh, North Carolina, Trump stoked fears in his audience by repeatedly saying that “something bad is happening” and “something really dangerous is going on.” He was asked by a 12-year-old girl from Virginia, “I’m scared—what are you going to do to protect this country?”

Trump responded: “You know what, darling? You’re not going to be scared anymore. They’re going to be scared.” "


The Narcissist

It’s called humor. This particular joke uses something called hyperbole.

Definition of HYPERBOLE

And all his tweets do as well? BS, what comes out of a man's mouth is what is inside of him. This comes from scripture, the tongue is the most dangerous weapon.

So you’re mad that he is honest when he talks and tweets?
That certainly appears to be the case.

People are not used to candidates who are not full of bullshit.

except he is.

you just don't care because he spews your anger and bigotry and makes you feel like your ignorances isn't ignorant.

President Trump’s Lies, the Definitive List

there has never been a president t who lies this sociopathically. but he's your sociopath.... your human version of a massive internet troll.
Your link did not demonstrate that the alleged lies are actually lies. In other words, it's nothing but bullshit.
 
It’s called humor. This particular joke uses something called hyperbole.

Definition of HYPERBOLE

And all his tweets do as well? BS, what comes out of a man's mouth is what is inside of him. This comes from scripture, the tongue is the most dangerous weapon.

So you’re mad that he is honest when he talks and tweets?
That certainly appears to be the case.

People are not used to candidates who are not full of bullshit.

except he is.

you just don't care because he spews your anger and bigotry and makes you feel like your ignorances isn't ignorant.

President Trump’s Lies, the Definitive List

there has never been a president t who lies this sociopathically. but he's your sociopath.... your human version of a massive internet troll.

That entire list may as well be the USMB, as every one of those “lies” were posted by Dems and debunked by us conservatives.

Bullshit!
Here's some of Trump's lies,,, debunk them.
All False statements involving Donald Trump | PolitiFact
 
It’s called humor. This particular joke uses something called hyperbole.

Definition of HYPERBOLE

And all his tweets do as well? BS, what comes out of a man's mouth is what is inside of him. This comes from scripture, the tongue is the most dangerous weapon.

So you’re mad that he is honest when he talks and tweets?
That certainly appears to be the case.

People are not used to candidates who are not full of bullshit.

except he is.

you just don't care because he spews your anger and bigotry and makes you feel like your ignorances isn't ignorant.

President Trump’s Lies, the Definitive List

there has never been a president t who lies this sociopathically. but he's your sociopath.... your human version of a massive internet troll.
Your link did not demonstrate that the alleged lies are actually lies. In other words, it's nothing but bullshit.

wow... it's so cool how you can pretend facts don't exist. but the great thing is that "facts exist whether or not you believe in them". Neil DeGrasse Tyson

:cuckoo:
 
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kind of telling in retrospect... (he said this in january 2016)

how was he that confident at the very beginning of the primaries??




"Trump's first visit to Soviet Moscow in 1987 looks, with hindsight, to be part of a pattern. The dossier by the former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele asserts that the Kremlin had been cultivating Trump for “at least five years” before his stunning victory in the 2016 US presidential election. This would take us back to around 2011 or 2012.


In fact, the Soviet Union was interested in him too, three decades earlier. The top level of the Soviet diplomatic service arranged his 1987 Moscow visit. With assistance from the KGB. It took place while Kryuchkov was seeking to improve the KGB's operational techniques in one particular and sensitive area. The spy chief wanted KGB staff abroad to recruit more Americans."

The Hidden History of Trump’s First Trip to Moscow
 
I think the thread has been hijacked and taken away from the origninal post and purpose. This thread is to discuss Trump and, essentially, why his strong supporters are so loyal.

It is not about Obama. If anyone wants to discuss Obama, please start a thread to do that.

Also, please deal with the definition of the authoritarian personality used in the analysis:

"...psychologists conceived of the authoritarian personality as a pattern of attitudes and values revolving around adherence to society’s traditional norms, submission to authorities who personify or reinforce those norms, and antipathy—to the point of hatred and aggression—toward those who either challenge in-group norms or lie outside their orbit."
Defending Our Way of Life Offends the Psychobabblers

We have to eliminate the enemies of our society. Trump is the only one who takes our side; the rest are either on the other side or compromise with our enemies. Was David "authoritarian" in standing up to Goliath?

The Left, which usurped power and turned loose criminals, moochers, and perverts on us just to put us in our place, are the ones driven by authoritarian instincts. Despite the images the partisan media presents them preaching, they don't believe in their distorted and disturbed values at all; they do believe they can minimize and silence us by their hostile tactics, and that's what motivates those pushy and bossy snobs behind the masks the media let them wear..
 
The Sage of Main Street said:
Defending Our Way of Life Offends the Psychobabblers





that was a nice parroted MAGA rant you posted, but let's see some specifics.

i'm asking you to be specific about the left's alleged usurpation of power and the rest of your "babble".



Please note, The Russian Times is not a reputable source for "Our Way of Life". :eusa_clap:
 
What makes Trump supporters tick? This is an interesting analysis and makes a lot of sense. Please discuss, civily, the ideas in the analysis.

"During and after World War II, psychologists conceived of the authoritarian personality as a pattern of attitudes and values revolving around adherence to society’s traditional norms, submission to authorities who personify or reinforce those norms, and antipathy—to the point of hatred and aggression—toward those who either challenge in-group norms or lie outside their orbit. Among white Americans, high scores on measures of authoritarianism today tend to be associated with prejudice against a wide range of “out-groups,” including homosexuals, African Americans, immigrants, and Muslims. Authoritarianism is also associated with suspiciousness of the humanities and the arts, and with cognitive rigidity, militaristic sentiments, and Christian fundamentalism.

When individuals with authoritarian proclivities fear that their way of life is being threatened, they may turn to strong leaders who promise to keep them safe—leaders like Donald Trump. In a national poll conducted recently by the political scientist Matthew MacWilliams, high levels of authoritarianism emerged as the single strongest predictor of expressing political support for Donald Trump. Trump’s promise to build a wall on the Mexican border to keep illegal immigrants out and his railing against Muslims and other outsiders have presumably fed that dynamic.

As the social psychologist Jesse Graham has noted, Trump appeals to an ancient fear of contagion, which analogizes out-groups to parasites, poisons, and other impurities. In this regard, it is perhaps no psychological accident that Trump displays a phobia of germs, and seems repulsed by bodily fluids, especially women’s. He famously remarked that Megyn Kelly of Fox News had “blood coming out of her wherever,” and he repeatedly characterized Hillary Clinton’s bathroom break during a Democratic debate as “disgusting.” Disgust is a primal response to impurity. On a daily basis, Trump seems to experience more disgust, or at least to say he does, than most people do.

The authoritarian mandate is to ensure the security, purity, and goodness of the in-group—to keep the good stuff in and the bad stuff out. In the 1820s, white settlers in Georgia and other frontier areas lived in constant fear of American Indian tribes. They resented the federal government for not keeping them safe from what they perceived to be a mortal threat and a corrupting contagion. Responding to these fears, President Jackson pushed hard for the passage of the Indian Removal Act, which eventually led to the forced relocation of 45,000 American Indians. At least 4,000 Cherokees died on the Trail of Tears, which ran from Georgia to the Oklahoma territory.

An American strand of authoritarianism may help explain why the thrice-married, foul-mouthed Donald Trump should prove to be so attractive to white Christian evangelicals. As Jerry Falwell Jr. told The New York Times in February, “All the social issues—traditional family values, abortion—are moot if isis blows up some of our cities or if the borders are not fortified.” Rank-and-file evangelicals “are trying to save the country,” Falwell said. Being “saved” has a special resonance among evangelicals—saved from sin and damnation, of course, but also saved from the threats and impurities of a corrupt and dangerous world.

When my research associates and I once asked politically conservative Christians scoring high on authoritarianism to imagine what their life (and their world) might have been like had they never found religious faith, many described utter chaos—families torn apart, rampant infidelity and hate, cities on fire, the inner rings of hell. By contrast, equally devout politically liberal Christians who scored low on authoritarianism described a barren world depleted of all resources, joyless and bleak, like the arid surface of the moon. For authoritarian Christians, a strong faith—like a strong leader—saves them from chaos and tamps down fears and conflicts. Donald Trump is a savior, even if he preens and swears, and waffles on the issue of abortion.

In December, on the campaign trail in Raleigh, North Carolina, Trump stoked fears in his audience by repeatedly saying that “something bad is happening” and “something really dangerous is going on.” He was asked by a 12-year-old girl from Virginia, “I’m scared—what are you going to do to protect this country?”

Trump responded: “You know what, darling? You’re not going to be scared anymore. They’re going to be scared.” "


The Narcissist
Needless to say, the analysis is spot-on.

And it’s not just Trump supporters who are authoritarian and attracted to authoritarian figures, that’s true of conservatives in general – the right’s love affair with Putin is yet further proof of that.

Indeed, the authoritarianism of the right as represented by Trump is consistent with conservative reactionaryism, and conservatives’ fear of change, diversity, and dissent.

Rightists see Trump as the agent of a conservative political agenda seeking to compel conformity and punish those who dare exercise their right to individual liberty – such as gay and transgender Americans.

Conservative authoritarianism is a pathetic attempt to return America to an idealized past that never actually existed to begin with, manifesting as a threat to the rights and protected liberties of all Americans.
 
I think the thread has been hijacked and taken away from the origninal post and purpose. This thread is to discuss Trump and, essentially, why his strong supporters are so loyal.

It is not about Obama. If anyone wants to discuss Obama, please start a thread to do that.

Also, please deal with the definition of the authoritarian personality used in the analysis:

"...psychologists conceived of the authoritarian personality as a pattern of attitudes and values revolving around adherence to society’s traditional norms, submission to authorities who personify or reinforce those norms, and antipathy—to the point of hatred and aggression—toward those who either challenge in-group norms or lie outside their orbit."
Conservatives hostile to the facts expressed in the OP will resort to cowardly red herring fallacies and failed attempts to deflect, which are manifestations of their “hatred and aggression…toward those who either challenge in-group norms or lie outside their orbit." ibid
 
What makes Trump supporters tick? This is an interesting analysis and makes a lot of sense. Please discuss, civily, the ideas in the analysis.

"During and after World War II, psychologists conceived of the authoritarian personality as a pattern of attitudes and values revolving around adherence to society’s traditional norms, submission to authorities who personify or reinforce those norms, and antipathy—to the point of hatred and aggression—toward those who either challenge in-group norms or lie outside their orbit. Among white Americans, high scores on measures of authoritarianism today tend to be associated with prejudice against a wide range of “out-groups,” including homosexuals, African Americans, immigrants, and Muslims. Authoritarianism is also associated with suspiciousness of the humanities and the arts, and with cognitive rigidity, militaristic sentiments, and Christian fundamentalism.

When individuals with authoritarian proclivities fear that their way of life is being threatened, they may turn to strong leaders who promise to keep them safe—leaders like Donald Trump. In a national poll conducted recently by the political scientist Matthew MacWilliams, high levels of authoritarianism emerged as the single strongest predictor of expressing political support for Donald Trump. Trump’s promise to build a wall on the Mexican border to keep illegal immigrants out and his railing against Muslims and other outsiders have presumably fed that dynamic.

As the social psychologist Jesse Graham has noted, Trump appeals to an ancient fear of contagion, which analogizes out-groups to parasites, poisons, and other impurities. In this regard, it is perhaps no psychological accident that Trump displays a phobia of germs, and seems repulsed by bodily fluids, especially women’s. He famously remarked that Megyn Kelly of Fox News had “blood coming out of her wherever,” and he repeatedly characterized Hillary Clinton’s bathroom break during a Democratic debate as “disgusting.” Disgust is a primal response to impurity. On a daily basis, Trump seems to experience more disgust, or at least to say he does, than most people do.

The authoritarian mandate is to ensure the security, purity, and goodness of the in-group—to keep the good stuff in and the bad stuff out. In the 1820s, white settlers in Georgia and other frontier areas lived in constant fear of American Indian tribes. They resented the federal government for not keeping them safe from what they perceived to be a mortal threat and a corrupting contagion. Responding to these fears, President Jackson pushed hard for the passage of the Indian Removal Act, which eventually led to the forced relocation of 45,000 American Indians. At least 4,000 Cherokees died on the Trail of Tears, which ran from Georgia to the Oklahoma territory.

An American strand of authoritarianism may help explain why the thrice-married, foul-mouthed Donald Trump should prove to be so attractive to white Christian evangelicals. As Jerry Falwell Jr. told The New York Times in February, “All the social issues—traditional family values, abortion—are moot if isis blows up some of our cities or if the borders are not fortified.” Rank-and-file evangelicals “are trying to save the country,” Falwell said. Being “saved” has a special resonance among evangelicals—saved from sin and damnation, of course, but also saved from the threats and impurities of a corrupt and dangerous world.

When my research associates and I once asked politically conservative Christians scoring high on authoritarianism to imagine what their life (and their world) might have been like had they never found religious faith, many described utter chaos—families torn apart, rampant infidelity and hate, cities on fire, the inner rings of hell. By contrast, equally devout politically liberal Christians who scored low on authoritarianism described a barren world depleted of all resources, joyless and bleak, like the arid surface of the moon. For authoritarian Christians, a strong faith—like a strong leader—saves them from chaos and tamps down fears and conflicts. Donald Trump is a savior, even if he preens and swears, and waffles on the issue of abortion.

In December, on the campaign trail in Raleigh, North Carolina, Trump stoked fears in his audience by repeatedly saying that “something bad is happening” and “something really dangerous is going on.” He was asked by a 12-year-old girl from Virginia, “I’m scared—what are you going to do to protect this country?”

Trump responded: “You know what, darling? You’re not going to be scared anymore. They’re going to be scared.” "


The Narcissist
If it were a thug, he'd gain votes.
 
I think the thread has been hijacked and taken away from the origninal post and purpose. This thread is to discuss Trump and, essentially, why his strong supporters are so loyal.

It is not about Obama. If anyone wants to discuss Obama, please start a thread to do that.

Also, please deal with the definition of the authoritarian personality used in the analysis:

"...psychologists conceived of the authoritarian personality as a pattern of attitudes and values revolving around adherence to society’s traditional norms, submission to authorities who personify or reinforce those norms, and antipathy—to the point of hatred and aggression—toward those who either challenge in-group norms or lie outside their orbit."
Defending Our Way of Life Offends the Psychobabblers

We have to eliminate the enemies of our society. Trump is the only one who takes our side; the rest are either on the other side or compromise with our enemies. Was David "authoritarian" in standing up to Goliath?

The Left, which usurped power and turned loose criminals, moochers, and perverts on us just to put us in our place, are the ones driven by authoritarian instincts. Despite the images the partisan media presents them preaching, they don't believe in their distorted and disturbed values at all; they do believe they can minimize and silence us by their hostile tactics, and that's what motivates those pushy and bossy snobs behind the masks the media let them wear..

Who is we?
 
I think the analysis is spot on, and you can see it manifested in the responses by the very authoritarian rightwing posters here on USMB.
 
except he is.

you just don't care because he spews your anger and bigotry and makes you feel like your ignorances isn't ignorant.

President Trump’s Lies, the Definitive List

there has never been a president t who lies this sociopathically. but he's your sociopath.... your human version of a massive internet troll.

That entire list may as well be the USMB, as every one of those “lies” were posted by Dems and debunked by us conservatives.

Debunked meaning someone came on and said "it's all fake news" and then for evidence they said "i know it's true, I don't need to provide evidence"???

no. debunked as in presented actual fact instead of hannity insanity.

I hope that helps.

Doesn't help at all, because I've been on this forum a long time, and I've seen what passes for "debunked" by the right, and I've seen what doesn't pass, and it's got nothing to do with evidence, logic, etc, it's to do with agenda, convenience and the fact that the right thinks it's right all the damn time.

you'll notice I've been a member of this board since 2006. I know exactly what this group of "people" is.

that said, I know and agree.

Well, at least we agree on one thing.
 
What makes Trump supporters tick? This is an interesting analysis and makes a lot of sense. Please discuss, civily, the ideas in the analysis.

"During and after World War II, psychologists conceived of the authoritarian personality as a pattern of attitudes and values revolving around adherence to society’s traditional norms, submission to authorities who personify or reinforce those norms, and antipathy—to the point of hatred and aggression—toward those who either challenge in-group norms or lie outside their orbit. Among white Americans, high scores on measures of authoritarianism today tend to be associated with prejudice against a wide range of “out-groups,” including homosexuals, African Americans, immigrants, and Muslims. Authoritarianism is also associated with suspiciousness of the humanities and the arts, and with cognitive rigidity, militaristic sentiments, and Christian fundamentalism.

When individuals with authoritarian proclivities fear that their way of life is being threatened, they may turn to strong leaders who promise to keep them safe—leaders like Donald Trump. In a national poll conducted recently by the political scientist Matthew MacWilliams, high levels of authoritarianism emerged as the single strongest predictor of expressing political support for Donald Trump. Trump’s promise to build a wall on the Mexican border to keep illegal immigrants out and his railing against Muslims and other outsiders have presumably fed that dynamic.

As the social psychologist Jesse Graham has noted, Trump appeals to an ancient fear of contagion, which analogizes out-groups to parasites, poisons, and other impurities. In this regard, it is perhaps no psychological accident that Trump displays a phobia of germs, and seems repulsed by bodily fluids, especially women’s. He famously remarked that Megyn Kelly of Fox News had “blood coming out of her wherever,” and he repeatedly characterized Hillary Clinton’s bathroom break during a Democratic debate as “disgusting.” Disgust is a primal response to impurity. On a daily basis, Trump seems to experience more disgust, or at least to say he does, than most people do.

The authoritarian mandate is to ensure the security, purity, and goodness of the in-group—to keep the good stuff in and the bad stuff out. In the 1820s, white settlers in Georgia and other frontier areas lived in constant fear of American Indian tribes. They resented the federal government for not keeping them safe from what they perceived to be a mortal threat and a corrupting contagion. Responding to these fears, President Jackson pushed hard for the passage of the Indian Removal Act, which eventually led to the forced relocation of 45,000 American Indians. At least 4,000 Cherokees died on the Trail of Tears, which ran from Georgia to the Oklahoma territory.

An American strand of authoritarianism may help explain why the thrice-married, foul-mouthed Donald Trump should prove to be so attractive to white Christian evangelicals. As Jerry Falwell Jr. told The New York Times in February, “All the social issues—traditional family values, abortion—are moot if isis blows up some of our cities or if the borders are not fortified.” Rank-and-file evangelicals “are trying to save the country,” Falwell said. Being “saved” has a special resonance among evangelicals—saved from sin and damnation, of course, but also saved from the threats and impurities of a corrupt and dangerous world.

When my research associates and I once asked politically conservative Christians scoring high on authoritarianism to imagine what their life (and their world) might have been like had they never found religious faith, many described utter chaos—families torn apart, rampant infidelity and hate, cities on fire, the inner rings of hell. By contrast, equally devout politically liberal Christians who scored low on authoritarianism described a barren world depleted of all resources, joyless and bleak, like the arid surface of the moon. For authoritarian Christians, a strong faith—like a strong leader—saves them from chaos and tamps down fears and conflicts. Donald Trump is a savior, even if he preens and swears, and waffles on the issue of abortion.

In December, on the campaign trail in Raleigh, North Carolina, Trump stoked fears in his audience by repeatedly saying that “something bad is happening” and “something really dangerous is going on.” He was asked by a 12-year-old girl from Virginia, “I’m scared—what are you going to do to protect this country?”

Trump responded: “You know what, darling? You’re not going to be scared anymore. They’re going to be scared.” "


The Narcissist


These guys still don't understand Trump.....they list every behavior that marks the democrat party, then try to put that on Trump supporters.....a lot of typing for nothing....
 
I think the analysis is spot on, and you can see it manifested in the responses by the very authoritarian rightwing posters here on USMB.


Yes...the Authoritarian Right wingers who believe in limited government, separation of powers, the reduction of government power.......yeah....you guys really, really need to do some thinking before you post....
 
Please discuss the analysis in the OP. Thank you.





I did. The delusion is political Party wide. You focus one one side, but ignore the delusion in your own ranks.

Please clarify what your point is and refer your to the analysis. Thank you. What delusion are you referring to?






You claim that trump supporters are secretly nazi sympathizers (i.e. lovers of authoritarianzim) yet the evidence is that trump is undoing the very real authoritarian deeds that obama in fact, did. The overwhelming majority of trumps EO's have been to undo the extra legal EO's that obama put in place. I submit that it is the progressives who are the authoritarians as they cheered every time obama wrote one of his illegal EO's. You are factually, and philosophically wrong.


They claim those things of Trump and his supporters while black lives matter and antifa, democrat groups, riot, attack political opponents with violence, and shut down the free speech of those they oppose.....the left wing fascists would be so cute if they weren't so freaking dangerous and eventually murderous....
 

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