Trump hints at expanded role for the Military within the US

[Natural Citizen]

And this would be yet another parallel.

We haven't learned from history.

Just another day in the neighborhood, unfortunately...

 

[Mac1958]

Just another day in the neighborhood, unfortunately...

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Yes, MAGA wants a return to 30's Europe.

Not even trying to hide it at this point.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Yes, MAGA wants a return to 30's Europe.

Not even trying to hide it at this point.

I think there's enough blame to go around, Mac.

Both theoretical ''sides'' have been trying to establish an image that America is under seige from within for some time. They understand how powerful an image can be when projected as justification for usurp. An image of troops on the streets of Chicago is no different than an image of troops at the Capitol in that regard. They're just making sure that they are covering both sides of the field for the purpose of a collective normalization and acceptance of the fuckery.

 

[Mac1958]

I think there's enough blame to go around, Mac.

Yes, the Left played its role in this, with its ridiculous commitment to PC & Identity Politics, which animated the Right and led to Trump's win.

But this is FAR too far. This is not American.

 

[Slade3200]

See, your problem is that you fail to see the obvious, to wit: We are currently careening toward authoritarianism. Absent intervention, this is most likely where we will end up.

Oh I know that’s the narrative being pushed by the right wing. I laugh and shake my head every time I hear it. Doesn’t make it true

 

[Slade3200]

BTW, point taken on my lack of brevity. I have heard that complaint here more times that I can count.

I appreciate that you have a lot to say. I just like to engage one point at a time or else much gets lost

 

[Failzero]

MAGA wants the Police State to go after Criminals & Criminal Illegals & Visa Overstayers and Fentanyl Cartels and environmentally Harmful Cartel Grows Not Law Abiding Americans

 

[task0778]

The military clearly belongs on the border. Right now the border region is controlled by paramilitary cartels. It will take the military to dislodge these groups.

I could see expanding the role of the US Border Patrol if it became necessary. But as far as I know, there are no attacks or depredations against US civilians or their property on this side of the border. The state governors do have ANG troops at their disposal to maintain L&E. The president could and should beef up the Border Patrol and if Congress agrees then the BP's charter could be amended as needed. But using US federal troops for law enforcement purposes on the border or anywhere else is a tricky business that could eventually lead to an oppressive police state. It's been done before:

George H.W. Bush was the last president to use the Insurrection Act, a response to riots in Los Angeles in 1992 after the acquittal of the white police officers who beat Black motorist Rodney King in an incident that was videotaped.

But that incident was confined to one city, whereas the 2020 riots were widespread. I don't think it's a good idea to have the US Army patrolling the streets of any and every major city. If the respective city and state officials who are charged with maintaining law and order do not request assistance, then as far as I'm concerned the citizens and voters therein are getting the gov't they voted for and deserve. And the rest of us shouldn't be paying anything to repair and rebuild after the damage is done.

 

[Slade3200]

Do you think democrat FDR was authoritarian when he rounded up the Jap-Americans after Pearl Harbor and threw them in internment camps?

Yes I do. That was a shameful part of our history

 

[Slade3200]

Republicans voters don't seem to mind if a dictator took over our country so long as it is a conservative one. Reagan, Bush or Trump.

Consider the rhetoric from the right. The left is DESTROYING America. So is the left even an option?

We used to have a two party system. If one side is DESTROYING America, then that probably means Republicans would be happier with a 1 party system.

Have You Listened Lately to What Trump Is Saying?

He is becoming frighteningly clear about what he wants.

www.theatlantic.com

I don’t think those people consider the system as a whole. They are stuck in their own selfish world fighting the fights that they want to fight. And they are getting uglier and uglier

 

[Failzero]

Yes I do. That was a shameful part of our history

Oh and when New Jersey State Police and New York City Police rounded up Italians & Germans ?

 

[Slade3200]

Oh and when New Jersey State Police and New York City Police rounded up Italians & Germans ?

Are you asking me a question or trying to make a point?

 

[Natural Citizen]

But this is FAR too far. This is not American.

Yeah. That's certainly true.

Unfortunately, many will love them for it.

As always, those who participate in coercion understand very little of their role in it. And absolutely nothing at all of the consequence.

I think I must have said that a guh zillion times around here, Mac. But it's true. History, as you mentioned, is rife with example.

At some point, it just becomes a waste of time blowing the keystrokes.

More astute factions of the electorate would do better to involve themselves in local government.

As it is now, the NGOs are effectively hijacking local/State governance, but at the same time they're also the ones organizing so much of the turmoil on the streets for the purpose of projecting those images I mentioned. Once the image is achieved, they're in a position to dictate the government response. And it won't be good. As always, problem..reaction...solution. And a good bit of Cloward-Piven for good measure. Seems like a lot of other designated victim status groups are jumping on that particular bandwagon, aside from the traditional designated victim status group to help speed along a demand for and normalization of federal intervention. Hell, some of em are likely getting per diem along with the bus ride. Ha...

 

[surada]

If I am looking at the direction of this nation and the blue cities...it just might be needed. Or he could let them burn the cities down since they voted these fanatical liberal District Attorneys and mayors in.

Trump hints at expanded role for the military within the US

Experts in constitutional law and the military say the Insurrection Act gives presidents tremendous power with few restraints

abcnews.go.com

I read the article. Sounds like Trump is crazy... wanting to use the military on Americans.

 

[Failzero]

Are you asking me a question or trying to make a point?

The point that the Japs were not the only groups Rounded up and interned or Deported

 

[Failzero]

Yes I do. That was a shameful part of our history

I do not consider the highly successful “ Operation Wetback “ carried out by Ike a Shameful part of American History .

 

[rightwinger]

You think the Dems are not planning to use the military domestically? With all the DEI training? LOL!

Why do Conservatives hate our Military?

We have the most powerful military in the history of mankind. We also have the best military personnel in the world
By far

 

[Failzero]

Why do Conservatives hate our Military?

We have the most powerful military in the history of mankind. We also have the best military personnel in the world
By far

Xiden has depleated and Bastardized our Military .

 

[Lord Long Rod]

Why do Conservatives hate our Military?

We have the most powerful military in the history of mankind. We also have the best military personnel in the world
By far

No, it is the left that hates our military.

 

[rightwinger]

Xiden has depleated and Bastardized our Military .

Bullshit
Not only that but he has avoided deploying them in unnecessary wars