'Defense sources: Iran regime change not military goal, creating conditions for it is'

[Pastelli]

.. holy to Islam,

You mean thousands who protested mowed down by your Islamic genocide regime? Muhammad?
How did you connect your beloved target Israel into firing of school? Even critics only blame US.
It is because you don't care about any lives.
You are only searching to propagate your hatred. Routinely

 

[JoeB131]

Wait, so now you're advocating for Iran to have nukes?

In an ideal world, no one should have nukes.

But based on what I've pointed out, you can see why Iran might want them, right? Nukes are the ultimate "Don't Mess With Me" weapon. No one messes with North Korea anymore. They have nukes. Heck, we dump tons of aid into the country just to keep it from collapsing.

We've been messing with Iran since 1953, just because they want to control their own oil and have forms of government we don't like.

If the Great Satan (America) and the Little Satan (Israel) have them, then why shouldn't Iran?

Only one country has ever used nuclear weapons on people.

A completely gratuitous attack on a country that was already defeated and seeking peace terms.

We really don't have the moral high ground to tell Iran they can't have nukes.

Now, despite all that, Iran agreed not to make nukes, agreed to inspections, and their compliance was monitored by a six-nation treaty (including five countries that already have nukes)

Cheeto Hitler tore that treaty up because it had Obama's name on it. Because Obama made fun of him once at a dinner.

This is the petty child you've put in charge, and now we've blown up a girls' school.

 

[JoeB131]

You mean thousands who protested mowed down by your Islamic genocide regime? Muhammad?
How did you connect your beloved target Israel into firing of school? Even critics only blame US.
It is because you don't care about any lives.
You are only searching to propagate your hatred. Routinely

We'd have never blown up that school if Netanyahu didn't threaten to release the Epstein Files.

theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/11/fbi-epstein-files-hacker-break-in

Hmmm... someone hacked the Epstein files.

I wonder who could have done that?

 

[Sayaras]

In an ideal world,

You fkin' liar

Racist YUSUF-JOEB131- happy Jews are beaten up.

 

[Sayaras]

You mean thousands who protested mowed down by your Islamic genocide regime? Muhammad?
How did you connect your beloved target Israel into firing of school? Even critics only blame US.
It is because you don't care about any lives.
You are only searching to propagate your hatred. Routinely

The "concerned" joeb131

 

[luiza]

Back to more pressing matters :-

The huge outside consensus is that as expected Iran is winning its fight with the Zionist Terrorists and that Trumpfy has badly lost control over any narrative other than dropping bombs as something to do .
Meanwhile the valiant Hooty Tooty Freedom Fighters have control over the world's economy by blocking Hormuz and Tehran is steadily flattening Israel with US bases right across the ME in ruins .

A few Oreshniks and /or Cluster warhead missiles on Israel's five de-salination plants should just about wrap up immediate matters nicely .

How much longer can the American braggarts shout out their nonsense without being laughed at throughout their imminent bankruptcy proceedings ?
Will Trumpfy win this year's award for funniest stand-up comedian?

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[JoeB131]

You fkin' liar

Racist YUSUF-JOEB131- happy Jews are beaten up.

Your religion isn't a race.

 

[Pastelli]

You fkin' liar

Racist YUSUF-JOEB131- happy Jews are beaten up.

The The fake "christian" Joeb131 talks about, "holy to Islam."

Jews were in Holy Land prior to advent of Islam
1 Nov 2024 — ... Clinton notes Jews were in Holy Land prior to advent of Islam.

Stumping for Harris, Bill Clinton notes Jews were in Holy Land prior to advent of Islam

The former president said that he understands that too many have died in Gaza but noted that Hamas murdered Israelis, who were “the most pro-friendship with Palestine.”

www.jns.org

 

[Ringo]

Iran is ending its policy of “tit-for-tat strikes” and beginning to launch “continuous strikes” as part of its operation against the US and Israel, according to a statement from the central headquarters of the Khatam al-Anbia military command.

“The policy of retaliatory strikes is over; from now on, our approach will be strike after strike,” the Fars news agency quoted the Iranian command as saying.

As a reminder, Israel and the US struck targets in Iran on February 28. Subsequently, US President Donald Trump confirmed the launch of Operations "Epic Fury" and "Roaring Lion" against the Islamic Republic. In turn, Iran launched strikes against Israel and US military bases in the Middle East as part of its retaliatory operation "True Promise 4".

We would like to add that Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Arakchi stressed that the issue of negotiations with the United States is unlikely to be considered in Iran under the new supreme leader, Mojtaba Khamenei. The foreign minister also noted that Tehran has had a very “bitter experience” of dealing with Washington.
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While the US tries to turn Iran into Syria, Iran will turn Israel into Palestine. What times we live in!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The sources are not CIA.
It seems you always fo that. You just 'reply' with out reading.

1. The Australian:
https://archive.is/J5KCi#:~:text=80,000 protesters who were peacefully,filled with crimes, executions, plunder

2. Manchester Evening News:
https://archive.is/KXxTL

3. KATU :
https://archive.is/0zoyK

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Here is more:

* Natasha Devon:

"The regime provides no information on whether they are detained or have been killed. Based on the available evidence, a more realistic estimate is at least 45,000 people death -some people estimate it to 80,000."

Iran execute protesters in hospital beds, with fears the death toll now surpassing 30,000 in ongoing crackdown | LBC

Protestors have been found with gunshot wounds to the head whilst in their hospital gowns, according to reports.

www.lbc.co.uk

* LBC interviews
''ISTO'' organization. (1.26.26):
''Iran’s January 2026 Massacre EXPOSED | 45,000–80,000 Dead in 48 Hours | LBC Interview. Paul Smith - Options Trader and Iran Sanctions & Trade Observatory (ISTO)''.


* IRANO org. Irano.info:
After killing of over 80,000 Iranians, students raised lion and sun flag at school.
The revolution and the combat continues despite of the suppression.

45,000 to 80,000, give or take a few

And you think that's serious reporting?

 

[Pastelli]

45,000 to 80,000, give or take a few

Different estimates:
35,000
45,000
over 60,000
Around 80,000.

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When your beloved fascistic Mullahcracy totalitarian regime will change to an open and free society, more close to accurate numbers will be confirmed.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Different estimates:
35,000
45,000
over 60,000
Around 80,000.

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When your beloved fascistic Mullahcracy totalitarian regime will change to an open and free society, more close to accurate numbers will be confirmed.

That's how you can tell they're so meticulously researched and sourced and clearly not just arbitrary, made up, fabricated out of whole cloth numbers provided by Mossad and the CIA attempting yet another coup

/sarcasm

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Different estimates:
35,000
45,000
over 60,000
Around 80,000.

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When your beloved fascistic Mullahcracy totalitarian regime will change to an open and free society, more close to accurate numbers will be confirmed.

If we're looking for the Creator's hand in every situation, no matter how "bad" it appears to us, I believe the best thing to come from this unforced error of a nation ending war will be total regime change in Western Civilization.

I've had the feeling for a while now that we are being watched and judged and now given a final chance at redemption and to turn back to the Light

 

[Pastelli]

That's how you can tell they're so meticulously researched ..

It is exactly what I said. In this oppressive TOTALITARIAN regime there are no exact finals, no meticulous numbers.
Just estimates.
35-80,000.

Even in well researched massacres there are different estimates.

Search for:

1. Some 2.5 million Christian by Islamic genocide by Turkey '30 years jihad' (1894-1924).

2. Biafra Islamic genocide of 3 million Christians (1967-1970).

3. Islamic Pakistan genocide of 3 million in Bangkadesh (1971) .

4. 700,000 in Syria: Arab on Arab genocide: 2013-2025.

5. Or Arab-Islamic genocide in Sudan 1980s--2026...

 

[SweetTea]

We really don't have the moral high ground to tell Iran they can't have nukes.

It's not about moral high ground. If a country threatens to destroy us and wants to get nukes it's common sense not to let them have them. If they weren't a threat, why did Obama negotiate for them not to have them in the first place? That doesn't make any sense does it?

Now, despite all that, Iran agreed not to make nukes, agreed to inspections, and their compliance was monitored by a six-nation treaty (including five countries that already have nukes)

They had 60% enriched uranium. It can be enriched from 60 to 90% in less than a week. Enrichment is not a linear process.

Your childish, idealistic thinking is getting in the way of common sense, yet again.

 

[JoeB131]

The The fake "christian" Joeb131 talks about, "holy to Islam."

Um, actually, I'm an atheist. It's the 21st century, we have computers and space shuttles now. Silly arguing over magic men in the sky is just... silly.

Jews were in Holy Land prior to advent of Islam
1 Nov 2024 — ... Clinton notes Jews were in Holy Land prior to advent of Islam.

So what? So were the Greeks, the Romans, The Persians, the Egyptians, and a whole bunch of other people.

It's not about moral high ground. If a country threatens to destroy us and wants to get nukes it's common sense not to let them have them. If they weren't a threat, why did Obama negotiate for them not to have them in the first place? That doesn't make any sense does it?

Maybe they wouldn't threaten to destroy us if we hadn't spent the last 50 years inflicting misery on them

They had 60% enriched uranium. It can be enriched from 60 to 90% in less than a week. Enrichment is not a linear process.

Yes, Yes, The Head Jew has been screaming that for 30 years. "IRAN IS WEEKS FROM GETTING A BOMB!!!"

Your childish, idealistic thinking is getting in the way of common sense, yet again.

Your pointless fear has given us 40 years of war.

Enough.

 

[SweetTea]

Maybe they wouldn't threaten to destroy us if we hadn't spent the last 50 years inflicting misery on them

Yes, Yes, The Head Jew has been screaming that for 30 years. "IRAN IS WEEKS FROM GETTING A BOMB!!!"

Your pointless fear has given us 40 years of war.

You never answered my question. If Obama wasn’t worried about what Iran would possibly do with a nuke, why bother negotiating any deals with them? We know you aren’t going to hurt us or have an possibility of developing a nuke but I am willing to return billions of dollars in cash as part of a deal that you can use to fund terrorism or whatever you choose to do with it. That is only brilliant if are anti-US and pro-Iran. Maybe that was Obama. That sure seems to be the way most far lefties in the feel.

You’re right, there is no way the Islamic extremists who say they want to destroy America and Israel would ever actually attempt do so. There, that is what you want to hear. Now, get back go your Legos, Harry Potter books, Fortnite or whatever else floats your boat.

Nobody can fix your childish, idealistic, naive views except YOU and you aren’t willing to even try.

 

[JoeB131]

You never answered my question. If Obama wasn’t worried about what Iran would possibly do with a nuke, why bother negotiating any deals with them? We know you aren’t going to hurt us or have an possibility of developing a nuke but I am willing to return billions of dollars in cash as part of a deal that you can use to fund terrorism or whatever you choose to do with it. That is only brilliant if are anti-US and pro-Iran. Maybe that was Obama. That sure seems to be the way most far lefties in the feel.

Actually, it shows your profound ignorance of what went on in that deal. The negotiations began with Germany, France, and the UK seeking to circumvent sanctions to secure that sweet, sweet Iranian oil. So they hammered out an agreement that would mollify both the US and Iran. We'd get inspections, they'd get sanctions lifted, and eventually, the return of assets we had been ILLEGALLY holding since the 1970s. Eventually, Russia and China were brought in as well.

So it was actually a pretty good deal, which Trump tore up, because the Jews wanted it torn up. And of course, because Trump wanted to undo anything with Obama's name on it because Obama made fun of him at a dinner once. (Yes, he is that petty.)

Iran came to Geneva in good faith and was willing to not only return to inspections and stop enrichment for even peaceful purposes. Not good enough for the Jews, of course. They launched an attack, and Trump went along with it. Now they are stuck because they can't commit ground troops, and there's really only so much you can accomplish with airstrikes.

They aren't afraid of Iranian Nukes. They are afraid that Muslims will throw out corrupt dictators and kings. They aren't afraid the Iranians might get the cutting-edge weapon of 1945; they are terrified that other countries might look at Iran and say, "Um, yeah, an Islamic Republic actually does sound a lot better than some Rich King who flies to Europe on Weekends to screw White Hookers."

You’re right, there is no way the Islamic extremists who say they want to destroy America and Israel would ever actually attempt do so. There, that is what you want to hear. Now, get back go your Legos, Harry Potter books, Fortnite or whatever else floats your boat.

Really? If anyone is childish, it's Trump and you bleachdrinkers playing toy soldier with real people.

OOOOOH, Scary Muslims.

 

[SweetTea]

Actually, it shows your profound ignorance of what went on in that deal. The negotiations began with Germany, France, and the UK seeking to circumvent sanctions to secure that sweet, sweet Iranian oil. So they hammered out an agreement that would mollify both the US and Iran. We'd get inspections, they'd get sanctions lifted, and eventually, the return of assets we had been ILLEGALLY holding since the 1970s. Eventually, Russia and China were brought in as well.

So it was actually a pretty good deal, which Trump tore up, because the Jews wanted it torn up. And of course, because Trump wanted to undo anything with Obama's name on it because Obama made fun of him at a dinner once. (Yes, he is that petty.)

Iran came to Geneva in good faith and was willing to not only return to inspections and stop enrichment for even peaceful purposes. Not good enough for the Jews, of course. They launched an attack, and Trump went along with it. Now they are stuck because they can't commit ground troops, and there's really only so much you can accomplish with airstrikes.

They aren't afraid of Iranian Nukes. They are afraid that Muslims will throw out corrupt dictators and kings. They aren't afraid the Iranians might get the cutting-edge weapon of 1945; they are terrified that other countries might look at Iran and say, "Um, yeah, an Islamic Republic actually does sound a lot better than some Rich King who flies to Europe on Weekends to screw White Hookers."

Again, how exactly was this deal beneficial to the US if Iran wasn’t a threat? We got their agreement not to develop nuclear weapons, which according to you wasn’t going to happen anyway, and in exchange we released billions of dollars to them they could use to fund their terrorist activities, including Oct. 7th, which ultimately led to the destruction of Gaza. Brilliant I tell you to negotiate such a fabulous deal.

Your idea of a good deal evidently doesn’t have the US on the receiving end of it. That is not a surprise given your anti-US stance on virtually every issue. This is why Democrats should never be in charge of foriegn policy. They are either complete imbeciles or are geniuses who can trick their ignorant, idealistic constituency into believing they are looking out what’s best for the US.

Really? If anyone is childish, it's Trump and you bleachdrinkers playing toy soldier with real people.

OOOOOH, Scary Muslims.

Your ignorance is astounding for someone your age.

 

[JoeB131]

Again, how exactly was this deal beneficial to the US if Iran wasn’t a threat? We got their agreement not to develop nuclear weapons, which according to you wasn’t going to happen anyway, and in exchange we released billions of dollars to them they could use to fund their terrorist activities, including Oct. 7th, which ultimately led to the destruction of Gaza. Brilliant I tell you to negotiate such a fabulous deal.

Wow. So many things wrong with that.

October 7th happened because the Zionists stole Palestinian land, not because Iran got their assets back.

Qatar gave Hamas 5 billion dollars with Bibi's approval. Bibi enabled Hamas for decades so he could use them as a foil against Fatah and the PA.

As for how the Iran deal benefited the US, well, we got Iranian Oil back on the market, that brought down oil prices. We got Iran's cooperation on dealing with ISIS in Iraq and Syria.

The problem is people like you think that Israel's interests should outweigh America's interests.

Your idea of a good deal evidently doesn’t have the US on the receiving end of it. That is not a surprise given your anti-US stance on virtually every issue. This is why Democrats should never be in charge of foriegn policy. They are either complete imbeciles or are geniuses who can trick their ignorant, idealistic constituency into believing they are looking out what’s best for the US.

No, the problem with right-wingers is that they think that America should only make deals that benefit America, and screw everyone else. This is why Trump's tariff policies are an absolute failure. Everyone else is just working around us now.

The best deal (and I make deals for a living) is where everyone walks away happy.

Your ignorance is astounding for someone your age.

I had to make out my will at 28 because the Zionist Lobby manipulated our government into fighting another country that supposedly was going to get nukes any minute now. Except, it turned out after two wars and hundreds of thousands killed, they weren't anywhere near having a nuke in Iraq.

But totally trust us this time, the Head Jew says, Iran is going to get a bomb next week if we don't bomb that Girl's school.