Trump has Changed the Template. The Next President Must be a Businessman. Who Can Fill His Shoes?

[Mac1958]

I can agree with that. But not in the way you mean. His unique abilities as a conman exceed the pedestrian definition of being a generational talent. I know of no one else, maybe ever, who could bankrupt a casino, lose $1B in less than 10 years, almost squander the nearly $500M he inherited, declare multiple bankruptcies, defraud investors, steal from a charity, be convicted of tax fraud, and come away with the reputation of a successful businessman.

Trump is a businessman like Gotti was a businessman.

All the same tactics. He learned well from Roy Cohn.

 

[Marener]

Next year will be a good year, the fed will lower the fed rate, small businesses
will once again be in a position for hiring. Manufacturers that came over to the US are building the
plants and will be ramping up.

An economy propped up by massive government deficits and low federal reserve interest rates.

What could go wrong?

Wishful thinking is not economic policy.

 

[IM2]

I think it should be the other way around. Not profit-oriented so much as fiscally prudent. I continue to be amazed at the disinterest most Americans appear to have regarding the national debt and deficits. IOW, we shouldn't be spending so much money that we ain't got, and it is future generations that will have to pay the interest on the increasing debt. Sooner or later, we'll need a president that focuses on that rather than on party politics and populism.

The fact is that the government is a not-for-profit service business. Therefore, cutting things should not be determined by a profit motive. What needs to happen is that we reduce military and law enforcement spending, shift that money into social programs and healthcare. Then we should implement a national living wage, which would cut the number of people needing federal assistance. There is no reason that we need a trillion-dollar budget for the military. You want to cut spending, close down overseas military bases. Stop selling weapons to foreign countries. We spend more on the military than the top 10 military nations spend combined. That's foolish.

 

[Meister]

An economy propped up by massive government deficits and low federal reserve interest rates.

What could go wrong?

Wishful thinking is not economic policy.

I know you want this country to fail so bad you overlook the obvious.
Those businesses that are coming over will pay corporate taxes and
all that goes with it. Not sure if you really thought this through or not.
But, if you did, you really missed the mark.
The plants are being built right now, and that's NOT "wishful thinking."

 

[Marener]

I know you want this country to fail so bad you overlook the obvious.
Those businesses that are coming over will pay corporate taxes and
all that goes with it. Not sure if you really thought this through or not.
But, if you did, you really missed the mark.
The plants are being built right now, and that's NOT "wishful thinking."

Are you sure it isn’t “wishful thinking”?

What if these plants don’t actually exist like you think?

 

[Meister]

Are you sure it isn’t “wishful thinking”?

What if these plants don’t actually exist like you think?

So....you have to use the ol' "what if" scenario huh?

 

[Marener]

So....you have to use the ol' "what if" scenario huh?

Well, let me ask something more concrete. What evidence do you have that there’s some huge wave of factories being built in the US?

Let’s see the data.

 

[Correll]

Next year will be a good year, the fed will lower the fed rate, small businesses
will once again be in a position for hiring. Manufacturers that came over to the US are building the
plants and will be ramping up.

AND the illegals are being reduced. Hopefully legal immigration is slowing.

Thus workers will have the leverage to demand higher wages.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Yes they are. That’s a trite and false slogan used by the left to either excuse their ineptness or downplay Republican success.

Dow is down today.

 

[Meister]

Dow is down today.

And?????

 

[Meister]

Well, let me ask something more concrete. What evidence do you have that there’s some huge wave of factories being built in the US?

Let’s see the data.

You look for the data, I won't play your game, marener.
It's out there if you want to do your own homework.
Try using Duck Duck Go.

 

[kyzr]

Dow is down today.

Its always down the days right before a Fed meeting, begging for a rate cut.

 

[Marener]

You look for the data, I won't play your game, marener.
It's out there if you want to do your own homework.
Try using Duck Duck Go.

You don’t have any data, you just have wishful thinking.

Manufacturing investment is actually dropping under Trump.

Real private fixed investment: Nonresidential: Structures: Manufacturing

Graph and download economic data for Real private fixed investment: Nonresidential: Structures: Manufacturing (C307RX1Q020SBEA) from Q1 2007 to Q4 2025 about nonresidential, fixed, investment, private, manufacturing, real, GDP, and USA.

fred.stlouisfed.org

I didn’t know that. Did you?

 

[MagicMike]

We can all agree, Donald Trump is more than a generational talent. Someone with his ability doesn't come around once a century. So who can fill his shoes?

I think Americans are seeing the enormous value of business experience over just a political career. Trump has shown them businessmen are far more capable than career politicians. We've already seen the disastrous results of electing someone with a blank slate of achievement in 0bama. He had no skills, no ability, was a horrible negotatior, didn't understand economics, and didn't understand human nature. Kamala was the same. Utterly incompetent in what it takes to run the many facets of the country. Think of what a disaster Sanders or AOC would be. Again, ZERO practical experience. What a great development it would be if a strong business career became a must for any candidate. That would, of course, eliminate every Democrat, as business acumen is seen as a liability by the base (Tom Steyer, Michael Bloomberg). But as long as we have the leftwing media in place brainwashing gullible new voters, Marxist candidates will always have a chance. The key, as I've said many times is to eliminate and illegalize the leftwing media. If Trump could do that, it would be his most important accomplishment.

But back to Trump's successor. Neither Vance nor DeSantis has had a career anything like Trump's. It might require another business titan, who, like Trump, has seen how everything works. But which billionaire would govern with the altruism Trump does? Who is selfless like Trump, to sacrifice his time and some of his fortune purely to help his fellow Americans live a great life? Who has the wisdom Trump does, to be right on EVERYTHING, particularly on the economy? Only a candidate outside of the political realm has the courage to take bold steps that heretofore would have been unimaginable, such as Trump reforming Medicaid. Trump is highly unique in the way he understands human nature. That's why he's a powerhouse on the economy, on foreign affairs, and on negotiating. So the answer lies in a top billionaire with a great heart, who understands human nature. As a conservative, it would have to be someone who can take a punch and still stand strong, as liberals are never subject to such scrutiny. It's just hard to imagine anyone with the guts and staying power and energy of Trump.

As I said. He's a once-a-century leader, and probably the greatest president of all time. How do you follow that?

The leftwing media says businessmen make poor presidents. The opposite is true, of course. Here is one honest link noting why businessmen have made the best governors. I say the same is true for the presidency.

Do Business Leaders Make Good Governors?

Is running a government like running a business? Governors with business backgrounds share these common traits.

pac.org

Well if Trump is the new standard then that makes it easy. All we need to do is scour our federal prisons for other convicted felons with a long history of failed swindles and bankruptcies and nominate them as GOP candidates.

 

[Meister]

Manufacturing investment is actually dropping under Trump.

Real private fixed investment: Nonresidential: Structures: Manufacturing

Graph and download economic data for Real private fixed investment: Nonresidential: Structures: Manufacturing (C307RX1Q020SBEA) from Q1 2007 to Q4 2025 about nonresidential, fixed, investment, private, manufacturing, real, GDP, and USA.

fred.stlouisfed.org

I didn’t know that. Did you?

You don't suppose that a 1/4-1/2 point cut from the fed wouldn't help that, do you?
Trump hasn't even been in office an entire year, the outlook is looking good for 2026.

 

[Marener]

You don't suppose that a 1/4-1/2 point cut from the fed wouldn't help that, do you?
Trump hasn't even been in office an entire year, the outlook is looking good for 2026.

You seem to be basing your outlook on wishful thinking and not data.

 

[Meister]

You seem to be basing your outlook on wishful thinking and not data.

Nice try, darling...but that ain't flying.

 

[Marener]

Nice try, darling...but that ain't flying.

Of course it doesn’t work on you. You believe something without facts or logic, which means facts and logic can’t change your mind. They’re non-factors.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Sure. Maybe a janitor or barmaid.

AOC has experience!

 

[Meister]

Of course it doesn’t work on you. You believe something without facts or logic, which means facts and logic can’t change your mind. They’re non-factors.

Nope, I believe that Trump's economy is just getting started, and by the end of
next year there will be results, probably by the second quarter of next year.