Trump Goes on Live Television to Do Exact Thing Whistleblower Said He Did

Neither. Obviously.

Corruption bad. Corruption in the guise of investigating corruption also bad.

Laws long in place to help prevent such shenanigans since..

Trump hardly the first to attempt pulling this sort of crap.

Prove that to be true and I'll agree with you...Until then it sure looks like your political bias only allows you to believe that only Republican's, or Trump can be corrupt....As such, your argument is failed.

That slow enough for ya?

Hey pal, I'm not being uncivil to you, so you can take comments like this and shove em right up your ass...

That slow enough for YOU?!
 
Neither. Obviously.

Corruption bad. Corruption in the guise of investigating corruption also bad.

Laws long in place to help prevent such shenanigans since..

Trump hardly the first to attempt pulling this sort of crap.

Prove that to be true and I'll agree with you...Until then it sure looks like your political bias only allows you to believe that only Republican's, or Trump can be corrupt....As such, your argument is failed.

That slow enough for ya?

Hey pal, I'm not being uncivil to you, so you can take comments like this and shove em right up your ass...

That slow enough for YOU?!
Listen Pally, wanna be civil? Don't offer "What you're saying is ..." either this or that bullshit. Ask for clarification if you're genuinely curious.

Go ahead! Try proving "it sure looks like your political bias only allows you to believe that only Republican's, or Trump can be corrupt"
I'll wait...
 
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Neither. Obviously.

Corruption bad. Corruption in the guise of investigating corruption also bad.

Laws long in place to help prevent such shenanigans since..

Trump hardly the first to attempt pulling this sort of crap.

Prove that to be true and I'll agree with you...Until then it sure looks like your political bias only allows you to believe that only Republican's, or Trump can be corrupt....As such, your argument is failed.

That slow enough for ya?

Hey pal, I'm not being uncivil to you, so you can take comments like this and shove em right up your ass...

That slow enough for YOU?!
Listen Pally, wanna be civil? Don't offer "What you're saying is ..." either this or that bullshit. Ask for clarification if you're genuinely curious.

Are you under the faulty impression that you make the rules here or something? Why don't you just have the conversation instead of trying to pick a fight?

Go ahead! Trying proving "it sure looks like your political bias only allows you to believe that only Republican's, or Trump can be corrupt"
I'll wait...

When you tried to prose that "Corruption in the guise of investigating corruption" nonsense, it revealed where you were going with this...So, IOW, if the investigation of corruption is against Republican's or Trump, well that's just great with you, and just must be true, while if it is an investigation against a Democrat, well, that's just Republican corruption in the guise of investigating corruption...See how that works?
 
That is exactly what he was asking of Zelensky the day after Mueller testified before congress.

Whistleblower complaint, annotated

"In the course of my official duties, I have received information from multiple U.S. Government officials that the President of the United States is using the power of his office to solicit interference from a foreign country in the 2020 U.S. election.

"This interference includes, among other things, pressuring a foreign country to investigate one of the President’s main domestic political rivals. The President’s personal lawyer, Mr. Rudolph Giuliani, is a central figure in this effort. Attorney General Barr appears to be involved as well."


You do realize that we have a joint prosecution treaty with Ukraine right? The President wasn't doing anything other than his job...You libs don't like it because it is uncovering the corruption of the Obama administration in its investigation. Too bad...

Plus we have the transcript. Relying on lying Schiff and his made up BS about this in the form of the WB's complaint based on hearsay, is a fools game in the face of the transcript, but hey, you people seem to love how egg feels on your face....
You do realize that we have a joint prosecution treaty with Ukraine right? The President wasn't doing anything other than his job...You libs don't like it because it is uncovering the corruption of the Obama administration in its investigation. Too bad...
Too bad Trump presides over the most corrupt administration in US History. Perhaps not everyone is as clueless as criminally-inclined conservatives?

Trump’s Business of Corruption


Then there is a remedy for you fortunately...That is an election...Your problem is that the hatred not only for Trump, but for the fact that Democrat's lost the 2016 election, is causing you people to lose what is proper and acceptable in our country.

There are signs that this farce is already backfiring on you people....Buckle up buttercup, it's gong to be a bumpy ride for y'all....lol
Then there is a remedy for you fortunately...That is an election...Your problem is that the hatred not only for Trump, but for the fact that Democrat's lost the 2016 election, is causing you people to lose what is proper and acceptable in our country.

There are signs that this farce is already backfiring on you people....Buckle up buttercup, it's gong to be a bumpy ride for y'all....lol
Who will Republicans vomit up in 2020, Butt-plug?
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Too much winning?


Not following you here...As for winning, yes we are winning.....

  • Outing Democrat corruption here in America, and abroad.
  • Unemployment at lowest level in 100 years
  • Historic trade agreement with Mexico, and Canada agreed to.
  • ISIS destroyed
  • The wall is being built.
  • Bias in Media uncovered
  • Consumer confidence high
  • Wages up
  • Regulations down
What's not to cheer there?
Outing Democrat corruption here in America, and abroad.
Trump is the most corrupt POTUS in US History.
Why would you want more lies?


Opinion | Trump’s Corruption: The Definitive List

"They don’t even try very hard to hide it.

"President Trump, his family and more than a few of his appointees are using his presidency to enrich themselves.

"They are spending taxpayer dollars for their own benefit.

"They are accepting sweetheart deals from foreigners. And they are harnessing the power of the federal government on behalf of their businesses.

"There’s a word for this: corruption."
 
You do realize that we have a joint prosecution treaty with Ukraine right? The President wasn't doing anything other than his job...You libs don't like it because it is uncovering the corruption of the Obama administration in its investigation. Too bad...

Plus we have the transcript. Relying on lying Schiff and his made up BS about this in the form of the WB's complaint based on hearsay, is a fools game in the face of the transcript, but hey, you people seem to love how egg feels on your face....
You do realize that we have a joint prosecution treaty with Ukraine right? The President wasn't doing anything other than his job...You libs don't like it because it is uncovering the corruption of the Obama administration in its investigation. Too bad...
Too bad Trump presides over the most corrupt administration in US History. Perhaps not everyone is as clueless as criminally-inclined conservatives?

Trump’s Business of Corruption


Then there is a remedy for you fortunately...That is an election...Your problem is that the hatred not only for Trump, but for the fact that Democrat's lost the 2016 election, is causing you people to lose what is proper and acceptable in our country.

There are signs that this farce is already backfiring on you people....Buckle up buttercup, it's gong to be a bumpy ride for y'all....lol
Then there is a remedy for you fortunately...That is an election...Your problem is that the hatred not only for Trump, but for the fact that Democrat's lost the 2016 election, is causing you people to lose what is proper and acceptable in our country.

There are signs that this farce is already backfiring on you people....Buckle up buttercup, it's gong to be a bumpy ride for y'all....lol
Who will Republicans vomit up in 2020, Butt-plug?
maxresdefault.jpg

Too much winning?


Not following you here...As for winning, yes we are winning.....

  • Outing Democrat corruption here in America, and abroad.
  • Unemployment at lowest level in 100 years
  • Historic trade agreement with Mexico, and Canada agreed to.
  • ISIS destroyed
  • The wall is being built.
  • Bias in Media uncovered
  • Consumer confidence high
  • Wages up
  • Regulations down
What's not to cheer there?
Outing Democrat corruption here in America, and abroad.
Trump is the most corrupt POTUS in US History.
Why would you want more lies?


Opinion | Trump’s Corruption: The Definitive List

"They don’t even try very hard to hide it.

"President Trump, his family and more than a few of his appointees are using his presidency to enrich themselves.

"They are spending taxpayer dollars for their own benefit.

"They are accepting sweetheart deals from foreigners. And they are harnessing the power of the federal government on behalf of their businesses.

"There’s a word for this: corruption."
That's an old liberal lie, constructed by liberal hacks in media...got any proof?

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That is exactly what he was asking of Zelensky the day after Mueller testified before congress.

Whistleblower complaint, annotated

"In the course of my official duties, I have received information from multiple U.S. Government officials that the President of the United States is using the power of his office to solicit interference from a foreign country in the 2020 U.S. election.

"This interference includes, among other things, pressuring a foreign country to investigate one of the President’s main domestic political rivals. The President’s personal lawyer, Mr. Rudolph Giuliani, is a central figure in this effort. Attorney General Barr appears to be involved as well."


You do realize that we have a joint prosecution treaty with Ukraine right? The President wasn't doing anything other than his job...You libs don't like it because it is uncovering the corruption of the Obama administration in its investigation. Too bad...

Plus we have the transcript. Relying on lying Schiff and his made up BS about this in the form of the WB's complaint based on hearsay, is a fools game in the face of the transcript, but hey, you people seem to love how egg feels on your face....
You do realize that we have a joint prosecution treaty with Ukraine right? The President wasn't doing anything other than his job...You libs don't like it because it is uncovering the corruption of the Obama administration in its investigation. Too bad...
Too bad Trump presides over the most corrupt administration in US History. Perhaps not everyone is as clueless as criminally-inclined conservatives?

Trump’s Business of Corruption


Then there is a remedy for you fortunately...That is an election...Your problem is that the hatred not only for Trump, but for the fact that Democrat's lost the 2016 election, is causing you people to lose what is proper and acceptable in our country.

There are signs that this farce is already backfiring on you people....Buckle up buttercup, it's gong to be a bumpy ride for y'all....lol
Then there is a remedy for you fortunately...That is an election...Your problem is that the hatred not only for Trump, but for the fact that Democrat's lost the 2016 election, is causing you people to lose what is proper and acceptable in our country.

There are signs that this farce is already backfiring on you people....Buckle up buttercup, it's gong to be a bumpy ride for y'all....lol
Who will Republicans vomit up in 2020, Butt-plug?
maxresdefault.jpg

Too much winning?


Not following you here...As for winning, yes we are winning.....

  • Outing Democrat corruption here in America, and abroad.
  • Unemployment at lowest level in 100 years
  • Historic trade agreement with Mexico, and Canada agreed to.
  • ISIS destroyed
  • The wall is being built.
  • Bias in Media uncovered
  • Consumer confidence high
  • Wages up
  • Regulations down
What's not to cheer there?
  • Unemployment at lowest level in 100 years
  • Historic trade agreement with Mexico, and Canada agreed to.
How does the retirement of 10,000 baby boomers every day impact unemployment numbers?

When did congress vote on that "Historic trade agreement with Mexico and Canada"?

Why would you believe anything a pathological liar like Trump says?
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I study liars. I've never seen one like Donald Trump.
 
When you tried to prose that "Corruption in the guise of investigating corruption" nonsense, it revealed where you were going with this...So, IOW, if the investigation of corruption is against Republican's or Trump, well that's just great with you, and just must be true, while if it is an investigation against a Democrat, well, that's just Republican corruption in the guise of investigating corruption...See how that works?
When you find yourself reduced to offering nothing of substance like that,.. one desperate speculation after another,. just stop! You're wrecking yourself.

Nothing I've said here applies more to either major party.They both suck. Big time. Bank on it.

eta, btw, "liberal" often does not equal "Liberal" nor "Democrat" just as "conservative" often does not equal "Conservative" or "Republican"
 
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I have never ever heard of a president going on TV to ask a communist and former communist nation to investigate any US citizen much less a former VP. For his own personal and political benefit.

It's just WOW!

This is unprecedented and so unAmerican.

American presidents just don't do this.

Trump Goes on Live Television to Do Exact Thing Whistleblower Said He Did

For those who don't like my former employer,

Trump asking foreign countries for help against Biden violates law, Elections Commission chair warns
It's just WOW!

This is unprecedented and so unAmerican.

American presidents just don't do this.

Trump Goes on Live Television to Do Exact Thing Whistleblower Said He Did
Your link:

"President Trump publicly called for Ukraine and China to investigate Joe Biden while speaking to reporters before boarding Marine One on Thursday morning, adding fuel to the impeachment inquiry launched last week by House Democrats.

"'[Ukraine] should investigate the Bidens,' Trump yelled over the whir of the nearby presidential helicopter on Thursday, flailing his hands for emphasis. 'Likewise, China should start an investigation into the Bidens. What happened in China is just about as bad as what happened in Ukraine.'"

Because of an accident of birth, Trump has never been held accountable for his actions; now, he will be. Hopefully, he will live a long, miserable life in prison after his impeachment.
I think
Pence would likely pardon him of any criminal wrong doings. And if his hands are dirty too and Pelosi is president... She would more than likely pardon him as well. She hates impeachment' s dividing the country and a trial against Trump, would do just that.... imo.
 
Too bad Trump presides over the most corrupt administration in US History. Perhaps not everyone is as clueless as criminally-inclined conservatives?

Trump’s Business of Corruption


Then there is a remedy for you fortunately...That is an election...Your problem is that the hatred not only for Trump, but for the fact that Democrat's lost the 2016 election, is causing you people to lose what is proper and acceptable in our country.

There are signs that this farce is already backfiring on you people....Buckle up buttercup, it's gong to be a bumpy ride for y'all....lol
Then there is a remedy for you fortunately...That is an election...Your problem is that the hatred not only for Trump, but for the fact that Democrat's lost the 2016 election, is causing you people to lose what is proper and acceptable in our country.

There are signs that this farce is already backfiring on you people....Buckle up buttercup, it's gong to be a bumpy ride for y'all....lol
Who will Republicans vomit up in 2020, Butt-plug?
maxresdefault.jpg

Too much winning?


Not following you here...As for winning, yes we are winning.....

  • Outing Democrat corruption here in America, and abroad.
  • Unemployment at lowest level in 100 years
  • Historic trade agreement with Mexico, and Canada agreed to.
  • ISIS destroyed
  • The wall is being built.
  • Bias in Media uncovered
  • Consumer confidence high
  • Wages up
  • Regulations down
What's not to cheer there?
Outing Democrat corruption here in America, and abroad.
Trump is the most corrupt POTUS in US History.
Why would you want more lies?


Opinion | Trump’s Corruption: The Definitive List

"They don’t even try very hard to hide it.

"President Trump, his family and more than a few of his appointees are using his presidency to enrich themselves.

"They are spending taxpayer dollars for their own benefit.

"They are accepting sweetheart deals from foreigners. And they are harnessing the power of the federal government on behalf of their businesses.

"There’s a word for this: corruption."
That's an old liberal lie, constructed by liberal hacks in media...got any proof?

Sent from my SM-T587P using Tapatalk
hat's an old liberal lie, constructed by liberal hacks in media...got any proof?
If you're saying that calling Trump corrupt is "an old liberal lie", there are decades of proof confirming that allegation long before he entered public service and much more since then:

Opinion | Trump’s Corruption: The Definitive List

"Trump Inc. is expanding overseas.

"During Trump’s presidency, his companies have pushed to expand overseas, with help from foreign governments. One example: In May, an Indonesian real-estate project that involves the Trump Organization reportedly received a $500 million loan from a company owned by the Chinese government.

"Two days later, Trump tweeted that he was working to lift sanctions on a Chinese telecommunications firm with close ties to the government — over the objections of both Republicans and Democrats in Congress. He ultimately did lift the sanctions."
 
That said, I happen to agree with much of georgephillip's criticism of Trump here because it's factual. Biden too, has always been a self-obsessed, opportunistic shit, first and foremost.
 
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And? Other than Schiff outing himself as a liar by saying that he never spoke with the WB before the complaint, all I see is standard Trump defending himself against these Jakals....
Foreign governments can NOT interfere in US elections, True or False?
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Why Trump Wants Adam Schiff Arrested for Treason, Explained


That's absolutely true, however, that isn't what Trump was asking of other nations...
That's absolutely true, however, that isn't what Trump was asking of other nations...
That is exactly what he was asking of Zelensky the day after Mueller testified before congress.

Whistleblower complaint, annotated

"In the course of my official duties, I have received information from multiple U.S. Government officials that the President of the United States is using the power of his office to solicit interference from a foreign country in the 2020 U.S. election.

"This interference includes, among other things, pressuring a foreign country to investigate one of the President’s main domestic political rivals. The President’s personal lawyer, Mr. Rudolph Giuliani, is a central figure in this effort. Attorney General Barr appears to be involved as well."
haven't you figured out that no one believes your lying hide or the media crap you link?
 
America First!


Not Donald Trump!

It's time now, for all good men, to come to the aid of their Country.
 
I have never ever heard of a president going on TV to ask a communist and former communist nation to investigate any US citizen much less a former VP. For his own personal and political benefit.

It's just WOW!

This is unprecedented and so unAmerican.

American presidents just don't do this.

Trump Goes on Live Television to Do Exact Thing Whistleblower Said He Did

For those who don't like my former employer,

Trump asking foreign countries for help against Biden violates law, Elections Commission chair warns
It's just WOW!

This is unprecedented and so unAmerican.

American presidents just don't do this.

Trump Goes on Live Television to Do Exact Thing Whistleblower Said He Did
Your link:

"President Trump publicly called for Ukraine and China to investigate Joe Biden while speaking to reporters before boarding Marine One on Thursday morning, adding fuel to the impeachment inquiry launched last week by House Democrats.

"'[Ukraine] should investigate the Bidens,' Trump yelled over the whir of the nearby presidential helicopter on Thursday, flailing his hands for emphasis. 'Likewise, China should start an investigation into the Bidens. What happened in China is just about as bad as what happened in Ukraine.'"

Because of an accident of birth, Trump has never been held accountable for his actions; now, he will be. Hopefully, he will live a long, miserable life in prison after his impeachment.
I think
Pence would likely pardon him of any criminal wrong doings. And if his hands are dirty too and Pelosi is president... She would more than likely pardon him as well. She hates impeachment' s dividing the country and a trial against Trump, would do just that.... imo.
I think
Pence would likely pardon him of any criminal wrong doings. And if his hands are dirty too and Pelosi is president... She would more than likely pardon him as well. She hates impeachment' s dividing the country and a trial against Trump, would do just that.... imo.
I suspect you are right in principle, but I wonder if Nancy is one of those rich Democrats who would rather lose elections than pay higher taxes?

As far as Trump is concerned, if he goes down it will likely be in state court as opposed to federal charges:


Opinion | How to Make Trump’s Tax Returns Public

"Mr. Trump lost two civil tax fraud trials over his 1984 income tax returns, on which he reported zero income as a consultant but took more than $600,000 in deductions. He had no receipts to substantiate the deductions."

David Cay Johnston has followed Trump for decades, and he believes New York courts have more leverage over the Trump Crime family than federal courts would:

How to Make Trump's Tax Returns Public | DCReport.org


"On June 14, the New York State attorney general, Barbara Underwood, filed a civil complaint against President Trump and his three oldest children, accusing them of 'persistently illegal conduct' in using the Donald J. Trump Foundation as 'little more than a checkbook for payments from Mr. Trump or his businesses to nonprofits, regardless of their purpose or legality.'

"Ms. Underwood believes there is abundant evidence to bring criminal charges against Mr. Trump as well. She made that position very clear in the letters she sent to the Internal Revenue Service and the Federal Election Commission in Washington recommending 'further investigation and legal action.'"
 
And? Other than Schiff outing himself as a liar by saying that he never spoke with the WB before the complaint, all I see is standard Trump defending himself against these Jakals....
Foreign governments can NOT interfere in US elections, True or False?
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Why Trump Wants Adam Schiff Arrested for Treason, Explained


That's absolutely true, however, that isn't what Trump was asking of other nations...
That's absolutely true, however, that isn't what Trump was asking of other nations...
That is exactly what he was asking of Zelensky the day after Mueller testified before congress.

Whistleblower complaint, annotated

"In the course of my official duties, I have received information from multiple U.S. Government officials that the President of the United States is using the power of his office to solicit interference from a foreign country in the 2020 U.S. election.

"This interference includes, among other things, pressuring a foreign country to investigate one of the President’s main domestic political rivals. The President’s personal lawyer, Mr. Rudolph Giuliani, is a central figure in this effort. Attorney General Barr appears to be involved as well."
haven't you figured out that no one believes your lying hide or the media crap you link?
haven't you figured out that no one believes your lying hide or the media crap you link?
But you believe Trump, right?
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How gullible.
 
Dunno Haley well enough to choose as of yet. Like Slick Willy and Obama, Warren presents herself very well, but her record indicates she'd be just another corporate sell-out in practice.

My choice would be for Bernie to run with AOC, then have her be the first. Or Tulsi. Both rock.
 
I have never ever heard of a president going on TV to ask a communist and former communist nation to investigate any US citizen much less a former VP. For his own personal and political benefit.

It's just WOW!

This is unprecedented and so unAmerican.

American presidents just don't do this.

Trump Goes on Live Television to Do Exact Thing Whistleblower Said He Did

For those who don't like my former employer,

Trump asking foreign countries for help against Biden violates law, Elections Commission chair warns
Yes he’s trolling you .. enjoy your life
So does that mean Obama was just trolling you when he said "if you like your doctor....."
 
Why is it wrong? How long has it been since the Obama administration reached out to a foreign agent to obtain fake documentation to obtain a FISA warrant to conduct surveillance on a (civilian) political opponent?
Never....that's how long
 
Why is it wrong? How long has it been since the Obama administration reached out to a foreign agent to obtain fake documentation to obtain a FISA warrant to conduct surveillance on a (civilian) political opponent?
Never....that's how long
That is whacked, but in light of all the Russia meddling hysteria it is amazing trying to gage just how much meddling we regularly do unto others, year after year. And unto ourselves. Let ye who is without sin cast the first stone or whatever.
Perhaps the lesson Republicans AND Democrats should learn here is both parties can do better than Trump vs Biden in 2020?
I, for one, would gladly take Warren or Haley over either Trump or Biden.
 

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