Trump Doesn't Know if He Has to Uphold the Constitution Because He's Not a Lawyer

[M14 Shooter]

Ever get tired of being an NPC?

Can't come up with your own meme?

 

[Rawley]

And the post I was responding to was from Edgetrho (#8) which was a completely bonkers screed about there not being due process in the constitution or judicial review.

The post where YOU responded was to me showing him such in the Constitution.

WW

Well, here's a lesson about getting on your high horse and lecturing others. Edgetho was 100% correct that administrative due process is a judicial creation.

 

[Foxfyre]

You most certainly are.

Have a nice day.

Well I hope I am never accused of maligning somebody dishonestly. If I am posting specific condemnation, accusation or criticism of a person, I hope I am never guilty of doing that out of full context or without ability to back it up with credible source or sources.

But then I care whether I am a person of integrity. Do you care whether you are?

 

[Foxfyre]

well, that question wasn't actually asked, and there's that.

What question?

 

[jc456]

What question?

When asked if he has to uphold the Constitution

 

[WorldWatcher]

Well, here's a lesson about getting on your high horse and lecturing others. Edgetho was 100% correct that administrative due process is a judicial creation.

His screed wasn't about administrative due process.

WW

 

[Lesh]

The entire amendment is one sentence.
You mean the first clause.

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger

Habeus Corpus isn't in there.
So... how do you think the term applies here?

Except on a presentment or indictment

 

[jc456]

His screed wasn't about administrative due process.

WW

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I don't disagree with one line in that.

What could the judiciary actually do if ignored?

 

[WorldWatcher]

I don't disagree with one line in that.

Why am I not surprised?

(That is a rhetorical question. No need to respond with you normal gaslighting bullshyte.)

WW

 

[jc456]

Why am I not surprised?

(That is a rhetorical question. No need to respond with you normal gaslighting bullshyte.)

WW

because I agreed, hmmmmmm dude, you need a beer.

 

[Edgetho]

I don't disagree with one line in that.

What could the judiciary actually do if ignored?

Federalist Paper 78, A. Hamilton: "Whoever ..considers the different departments ..must perceive, that, in a government in which they are separate.., the judiciary… will always be the least dangerous to… the Constitution; because it will be least in a capacity to annoy or injure them. The Executive not only dispenses the honors, but holds the sword... The legislature not only commands the purse, but prescribes the rules by which …every citizen [is] regulated. The judiciary, on the contrary, has no influence over either sword or purse; ..and can take no active resolution whatever. It [has] neither FORCE nor WILL, but merely judgment; and must ultimately depend upon the aid of the executive arm even for the efficacacy of its judgments."

 

[Edgetho]

“It just can’t be right that one district judge can stop a nationwide policy in its tracks, and leave it stopped for the years that it takes to go through a normal process”. -- Elena Kagan (2022)

 

[M14 Shooter]

Except on a presentment or indictment

And....
Habeus Corpus isn't in there.
So... how do you think the term applies here?

 

[Robert W]

From the oath of office Trump has sworn twice now:

I will faithfully execute the Office of President and preserve, protect and defend the Constitution

Trump is not who sent the MS13 man to El Salvador. That was a sloppy interview by the CBS reporter. She knows it was a trap.

 

[Robert W]

And trump is a master manipulator

You will not get any argument about that issue.
Trump is not who deported the MS13 gangster.

Biden tried to be a master manipulator as well as did Harris when he quit his job.

 

[Lesh]

And....
Habeus Corpus isn't in there.
So... how do you think the term applies here?

What do you think have’s corpus is ya dope..

 

[Robert W]

Yes, invasion in this case was speaking about one state of another state....the whole article is regarding how states run a mandatory republican form of govt, laws and criminals in one state vs another, returning criminals to states from another state, and insurrectionists movements within state, domestic violence within a state, or incursion from another state etc etc etc.... And when the Federal govt comes in to basically RESCUE them, from themselves....

Sounds as if you reject the idea the USA has a right to protect our own borders.

ICE deported the MS13 gangster to El Salvador and it was after that Trump learned it happened.

 

[Rawley]

His screed wasn't about administrative due process.

WW

Where do you glean that from? Read it again You assumed his "screed" was about the due process found in the Constitution. As I pointed out, the due process we give to illegals as we are deporting them is administrative due process

 

[Rawley]

Habeas corpus dimwit

Yes, that is one of the latest legal hurdles the left and the judiciary are throwing at the administration, halfwit.

 

[toobfreak]

Remember, 15 years ago during the Tea Party movement the right would carry around little pocket Constitutions and dress up like colonial-era Americans.

Actually, I don't remember any of that ever happening.

They don't even pretend to care about the Constitution anymore. Like Christianity, it's lost currency on the right. The entire movement is just Trump.

Actually, Trump was referring to Article II of the Constitution, where the Constitution allows suspension of habeus corpus under certain circumstances, and was already used to said effect by both Lincoln, Grant, and FDR. Guess what? Current circumstances meet those requirements.

The only reason why Trump has not already done the same is because of bad optics--- it is a rather dangerous place for one to go politically, and Trump knows that the Left are just slobbering at the bit hoping Trump will go there (these judges are trying to FORCE him there) just so they can call him a dangerous dictator. It is all democrats have left to campaign on.

Listen to any democrat--- they never address any real issue facing the country like crime, immigration, debt or economy, it is all Trump all the time, 24/7.

Without Trump to ***** about, democrats would dry up and shrivel like a little anchovy.