Trump declares that the U.S. needs to have Greenland

[Rogue AI]

We had aircraft carriers and Marines already there, dumbass. Days not weeks or months. You propose having them at home.

Did I say mothball the fleet? No, I did not. Nor was an aircraft carrier and a few Marines sufficient force to win either conflict. Nor was either of those conflicts due to commerce. Think before you post.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You have already a camp there Camp Century - Wikipedia

From your link: Camp Century is an abandoned Arctic United States military scientific research base in Greenland, situated 205 km (127 mi) east-northeast of Pituffik Space Base.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Did I say mothball the fleet? No, I did not. Nor was an aircraft carrier and a few Marines sufficient force to win either conflict. Nor was either of those conflicts due to commerce. Think before you post.

You are using AI, so you are not thinking either. How many conflicts have been solved by forces already on location. Those conflicts were absolutely due to commerce. They affected international commerce in numerous ways, that I won't begin to mention.

You really need to start thinking instead of relying on whatever brain you are picking.

 

[Rogue AI]

You are using AI, so you are not thinking either. How many conflicts have been solved by forces already on location. Those conflicts were absolutely due to commerce. They affected international commerce in numerous ways, that I won't begin to mention.

You really need to start thinking instead of relying on whatever brain you are picking.

That's not the case. The aircraft carriers and marines being within close proximity had no decernible impact on decades long conflicts. That assertion is ludicrous. Commerce was not the primary cause of either conflict. Try harder.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

That's not the case. The aircraft carriers and marines being within close proximity had no decernible impact on decades long conflicts. That assertion is ludicrous. Commerce was not the primary cause of either conflict. Try harder.

9/11 had no impact on commerce? You are definitely lost.

Who seized the airfields in Afghanistan where we first began flying ground troops in?

You spelled discernable wrong.

 

[Rogue AI]

9/11 had no impact on commerce? You are definitely lost.

Who seized the airfields in Afghanistan where we first began flying ground troops in?

You spelled discernable wrong.

I didn't say it didn't have an impact. It was not primary reason for the attack in the first place. Pay attention.

Bagram was not taken by marines from the carrier group, but by British Special Boat Services and 10th Mountain Division, US Army.

Definition of DISCERNIBLE

able to be perceived by a sense (such as sight or smell) or by the mind : capable of being discerned… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

Again, try harder.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I didn't say it didn't have an impact. It was not primary reason for the attack in the first place. Pay attention.

Bagram was not taken by marines from the carrier group, but by British Special Boat Services and 10th Mountain Division, US Army.

Definition of DISCERNIBLE

able to be perceived by a sense (such as sight or smell) or by the mind : capable of being discerned… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

Again, try harder.

Granted, not the first.

Yeah, you did! You said: "no decernible impact." Pay attention!

How were those strikes carried out? Where did the 10th Mountain Division arrive from? Those forces arrived after being staged in foreign countries, What if those countries had denied access?

Here is an image of what forward deployed ships can do that ships sitting at home cannot:

That was October 7th, 2001. A ship leaving the US would have not yet arrived anywhere near there by that time.

It's also spelled with an a as in able. Your own link verified that. My spell check says it is wrong. Oh, well.

 

[Rogue AI]

Granted, not the first.

Yeah, you did! You said: "no decernible impact." Pay attention!

How were those strikes carried out? Where did the 10th Mountain Division arrive from? Those forces arrived after being staged in foreign countries, What if those countries had denied access?

Here is an image of what forward deployed ships can do that ships sitting at home cannot:
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That was October 7th, 2001. A ship leaving the US would have not yet arrived anywhere near there by that time.

It's also spelled with an a as in able. Your own link verified that. My spell check says it is wrong. Oh, well.

Keep reading dumbass. No decernible impact on a decades long conflict. Do you not understand the difference between conflict and commerce?

The point remains, it took months to stage it, the very point I originally made. October 7th is almost a month after the fact, not mere days as you claim.

The only person claiming our ships would 'sit' at home is you. As I certainly did not imply that. If you had a question on that you could have asked, not just assumed whatever silliness entered your mind.

Not everyone's vocabulary is limited to spell checkers.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Keep reading dumbass. No decernible impact on a decades long conflict. Do you not understand the difference between conflict and commerce?

The point remains, it took months to stage it, the very point I originally made. October 7th is almost a month after the fact, not mere days as you claim.

The only person claiming our ships would 'sit' at home is you. As I certainly did not imply that. If you had a question on that you could have asked, not just assumed whatever silliness entered your mind.

Not everyone's vocabulary is limited to spell checkers.

You want to eliminate foreign bases do you not? Do you know where that ship launching the missile was located on September 11th? I guarantee it was not in its homeport of Mayport, FL.

 

[Rogue AI]

You want to eliminate foreign bases do you not? Do you know where that ship launching the missile was located on September 11th? I guarantee it was not in its homeport of Mayport, FL.

It hardly matters as it took months for the main forces to arrive in theater. 10th Mountain came from the states, not a foreign base. Which seems to defeat the purpose of foreign bases. Nothing that can't be handled with temporary alliances of convenience.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It hardly matters as it took months for the main forces to arrive in theater. 10th Mountain came from the states, not a foreign base. Which seems to defeat the purpose of foreign bases. Nothing that can't be handled with temporary alliances of convenience.

Someone else secured the base for them. Where did they come from? How many tanks did 10th Mountain bring with them? How many vehicles? When my daughter's Cavalry unit deployed to Iraq, she shipped everything they needed weeks before they left. Soe of their equipment didn't leave until they were already there. When they came home, she was literally the last one home as she was responsible for getting every piece back on the civilian ships that carried them home after they left.

Tell me about your military experience, or are you really using AI for all this pondering.

 

[Rogue AI]

Someone else secured the base for them. Where did they come from? How many tanks did 10th Mountain bring with them? How many vehicles? When my daughter's Cavalry unit deployed to Iraq, she shipped everything they needed weeks before they left. Soe of their equipment didn't leave until they were already there. When they came home, she was literally the last one home as she was responsible for getting every piece back on the civilian ships that carried them home after they left.

Tell me about your military experience, or are you really using AI for all this pondering.

What does that have to with foreign bases? Nothing at all. It has already been established that it takes months to deploy, so exactly what is your point? Save your irrelevant anecdotal stories, they have no place here.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

What does that have to with foreign bases? Nothing at all. It has already been established that it takes months to deploy, so exactly what is your point? Save your irrelevant anecdotal stories, they have no place here.

So, you can't answer the question. Enough said.

 

[Rogue AI]

So, you can't answer the question. Enough said.

I'm not wasting time on unsourced anecdotal nonsense. Try harder. Nothing you have said contradicts using temporary alliances to achieve our immediate goals.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I'm not wasting time on unsourced anecdotal nonsense. Try harder. Nothing you have said contradicts using temporary alliances to achieve our immediate goals.

What if those alliances don't work out? Example: France refused permission for our bombers from the UK to use French airspace to attack Libya during the Reagan administration.

 

[Rogue AI]

What if those alliances don't work out? Example: France refused permission for our bombers from the UK to use French airspace to attack Libya during the Reagan administration.

Our 'allies' refused us. Think on that. What do we do when none our foreign bases are close? You ignore the crux of the whole notion of being a neutral arbitrator instead of interventionist. Any threat to our commerce will inherently threaten other countries' commerce. Is a military response necessary? It would depend on the threat.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Our 'allies' refused us. Think on that. What do we do when none our foreign bases are close? You ignore the crux of the whole notion of being a neutral arbitrator instead of interventionist. Any threat to our commerce will inherently threaten other countries' commerce. Is a military response necessary? It would depend on the threat.

France was not our ally back then. Your knowledge of history is abysmal. France rejoined NATO in 2009. Dumbass AI bite you again?

 

[Rogue AI]

France was not our ally back then. Your knowledge of history is abysmal. France rejoined NATO in 2009. Dumbass AI bite you again?

France maintained its political membership. They actually never left NATO officially. Try harder. Clearly you are a waste of time. Bye.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

France maintained its political membership. They actually never left NATO officially. Try harder. Clearly you are a waste of time. Bye.

How many bases did we have in France? The answer is zero!

 

[cnm]

Alliances that keep us secure? Can you name a single alliance we have that secures us more than it does anyone else? Most every alliance we are in mainly is for the betterment of others hoping to secure greater global peace.

NATO. America must be the only member of it not to contribute soldiers to die in other countries' wars.

Unlike the members whose soldiers died in America's wars.

Not to worry though, they got the gratitude they deserved from Americans.