Trump could ensure victory this fall.

[dblack]

The Dems child ensure victory by nominating a consensus candidate. But they won't

 

[Woodznutz]

I actually think it says a lot about Trump that he is willing to pay a political price for the good of the country.

The importance of things has changed. Imo, it's more important at this time to open global trade than to continue punishing Iran.

 

[Woodznutz]

Nobody is stupid enough to believe it was a victory. It would simply be viewed as another example of the MAGA Asshole creating a new problem, (in this case) starting a war, losing it, and capitulating, all with the tacit support of the MAGA Congress, that does not rein in their king, from screwing up the country, the world, on whim, without considering the consequences. Overall, it simply shows the two houses of Congress (controlled by Republican [although in name only, as not Republican, only MAGA along for the ride] not doing their job, in the interests of American citizens or our military, misused on whim to do the personal bidding of the idiot allowed to run free in the White House. Which is why they will be voted out, in November.

I dunno. The thought of the Dems taking over is horrifying regardless of Trump's actions.

 

[Failzero]

It may be one of those no win situations where Trump has to know that their is no political or economic means to carry out what needs to be done militarily.

I honestly think that his best bet is for the international community to band together to militarily take over the Strait.

It will be one less bargaining chip that the terrorist nation has on the rest of the world.

The Strait is not the problem ( it’s the 3/4 complete Weapons and material to make many more that are buried huge mining operation deep

 

[Independent thinker]

The importance of things has changed. Imo, it's more important at this time to open global trade than to continue punishing Iran.

Iran needed to be dealt with. They have needed being dealt with for a long time now. Better to do it now while they're down rather than waiting until it would be much harder in the future and Iran has nukes. And, God forbid, if democrats get back in power, they will want to negotiate with a country that doesn't negotiate.

 

[Captain Caveman]

White 6 Dont Taz Me Bro get your fingers out of your assholes.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Nobody is stupid enough to believe it was a victory. It would simply be viewed as another example of the MAGA Asshole creating a new problem, (in this case) starting a war, losing it, and capitulating, all with the tacit support of the MAGA Congress, that does not rein in their king, from screwing up the country, the world, on whim, without considering the consequences. Overall, it simply shows the two houses of Congress (controlled by Republican [although in name only, as not Republican, only MAGA along for the ride] not doing their job, in the interests of American citizens or our military, misused on whim to do the personal bidding of the idiot allowed to run free in the White House. Which is why they will be voted out, in November.

Replying to a thread that doesn't comply to the thread start rules, you're pissed aren't you.

 

[White 6]

I dunno. The thought of the Dems taking over is horrifying regardless of Trump's actions.

Why? It is hard to see, it being any worse. Domestically, we have had masked armed Federal storm troopers, in the streets of American cities, supposedly to pick up the worst criminal offenders of illegal aliens currently living in the country, but have for the most part, arresting anybody the does not look American (however you imagine that), including American Citizens, even shooting two or three,(killing at least two) with the present MAGA government trying to cover and support them, until citizens release cellphone video, proving the cops were wrong to shoot and often lied about the shootings in their reports. We have their augmentation with Active Duty National Guard putting troops in the streets, although having no arrest powers. We have tariff induced inflation, caused by the illegal decisions to assign tariff taxes, now being refunded to the large corporations, with no compensation the the American end consumers that paid them to the Corporations. Gasoline is higher than any time in the last four or five years. We have a total capitulation to the wants and desires of the insurance industry to ration healthcare and treatment, which has sparked left wing assignation of one of the leaders that industry. We see increasing numbers of individuals and families unable to afford health insurance at all, was MAGA fights back against the Democrats Affordable Care Act, kicking people off, as letting those premiums escalate beyond their ability to pay, loading up our emergency rooms, their only remaining healthcare option. We have the wholesale political gerrymandering war sparked by the MAGA administration effort to keep itself in power by changing voting districts to repress representative governing, sometimes by party, sometimes just to deny blacks and other ethnic minorities representation in the US Congress and in the states. This president's actions (often viewed as illegal, immoral, and based on spite) has sparked more known assassination attempts than any president in my memory.

On the international front, this MAGA administration has alienated long term allies, failed to support Ukraine against Russia, historic enemy invader, with designs on all former Soviet breakaway countries as well as Eastern European NATO countries, Russia borders. We have seen rocket attacks by the US Military on small boats in international waters, supposedly carrying drugs, yet no drugs recovered, and even going so far as to intentionally kill defenseless survivors in the water, clearly crime, yet nobody held to account. Right now, we are involve in a major military action, this president said yesterday, was largely for PR value, killed at least 15 Americans, no telling how many injured, and destroyed many multimillion dollar US aircraft. That is not to mention using up half our strategic reserves of $3+Million dollar interceptor missiles to counter $2,000 Dollar drones, the missile used having a production speed of approximately 100/year. We see our spendthrift MAGA led government blowing through money at a pace unequalled by most previous Democrat or republican administrations, and largely on choice. We have seen our current MAGA President threaten Canada and Greenland, not ruling out military action. Now he says Cuba is next, though most Americans simply don't give a rat's ass about Cuba. Trump has show firms support for historic enemies and strong man regimes. At the same time he pardons foreign president drug kingpin, convicted by his DOJ, and then does a military overnight invasion of Venezuela to capture another sitting president drug kingpin for prosecution, while promising regime change, yet plans to keep that country's oil production for us.

So, with all this going on, what is it you fear the Democrats might do?

 

[White 6]

Replying to a thread that doesn't comply to the thread start rules, you're pissed aren't you.

Not me. Simply bound to reality. There was no reports against this thread when I started replying. I am not sure it has been reported by anyone now. But, obviously I cannot moderate it, as I am a party of the thread, a thread that started out as a think piece, with no fact unknown, so not requiring a link to something it was based on.

 

[Oddball]

Pull back the blockade, open the strait, and declare victory.

But then he'd piss off AIPAC...Can't have that.

 

[Oddball]

I actually think it says a lot about Trump that he is willing to pay a political price for the good of the country.

You believe pro rasslin' is real, don't you?

 

[Woodznutz]

Why? It is hard to see, it being any worse. Domestically, we have had masked armed Federal storm troopers, in the streets of American cities, supposedly to pick up the worst criminal offenders of illegal aliens currently living in the country, but have for the most part, arresting anybody the does not look American (however you imagine that), including American Citizens, even shooting two or three,(killing at least two) with the present MAGA government trying to cover and support them, until citizens release cellphone video, proving the cops were wrong to shoot and often lied about the shootings in their reports. We have their augmentation with Active Duty National Guard putting troops in the streets, although having no arrest powers. We have tariff induced inflation, caused by the illegal decisions to assign tariff taxes, now being refunded to the large corporations, with no compensation the the American end consumers that paid them to the Corporations. Gasoline is higher than any time in the last four or five years. We have a total capitulation to the wants and desires of the insurance industry to ration healthcare and treatment, which has sparked left wing assignation of one of the leaders that industry. We see increasing numbers of individuals and families unable to afford health insurance at all, was MAGA fights back against the Democrats Affordable Care Act, kicking people off, as letting those premiums escalate beyond their ability to pay, loading up our emergency rooms, their only remaining healthcare option. We have the wholesale political gerrymandering war sparked by the MAGA administration effort to keep itself in power by changing voting districts to repress representative governing, sometimes by party, sometimes just to deny blacks and other ethnic minorities representation in the US Congress and in the states. This president's actions (often viewed as illegal, immoral, and based on spite) has sparked more known assassination attempts than any president in my memory.

On the international front, this MAGA administration has alienated long term allies, failed to support Ukraine against Russia, historic enemy invader, with designs on all former Soviet breakaway countries as well as Eastern European NATO countries, Russia borders. We have seen rocket attacks by the US Military on small boats in international waters, supposedly carrying drugs, yet no drugs recovered, and even going so far as to intentionally kill defenseless survivors in the water, clearly crime, yet nobody held to account. Right now, we are involve in a major military action, this president said yesterday, was largely for PR value, killed at least 15 Americans, no telling how many injured, and destroyed many multimillion dollar US aircraft. That is not to mention using up half our strategic reserves of $3+Million dollar interceptor missiles to counter $2,000 Dollar drones, the missile used having a production speed of approximately 100/year. We see our spendthrift MAGA led government blowing through money at a pace unequalled by most previous Democrat or republican administrations, and largely on choice. We have seen our current MAGA President threaten Canada and Greenland, not ruling out military action. Now he says Cuba is next, though most Americans simply don't give a rat's ass about Cuba. Trump has show firms support for historic enemies and strong man regimes. At the same time he pardons foreign president drug kingpin, convicted by his DOJ, and then does a military overnight invasion of Venezuela to capture another sitting president drug kingpin for prosecution, while promising regime change, yet plans to keep that country's oil production for us.

So, with all this going on, what is it you fear the Democrats might do?

Without addressing specific points most of these problems were caused by liberals and Democrats. If Republican solutions seem extreme the liberals and Dems shouldn't have caused them in the first place.

That said I, as an independent thinker, have different solutions than the Republicans, some even more extreme.

 

[White 6]

Without addressing specific points most of these problems were caused by liberals and Democrats. If Republican solutions seem extreme the liberals and Dems shouldn't have caused them in the first place.

That said I, as an independent thinker, have different solutions than the Republicans, some even more extreme.

Bullshit! They are direct actions of Trump administration, allow unrestricted by his MAGA Congress, only loosely constrained by the courts. And you know it.
You still have not said what Democrats are running on that would make it worse, that you are so fearful of. Controlling trump's baser instincts until he gets the hell out of office will be a blessing to the country, unless you simply do not like the Constitution, Rule of Law, or like trade policy based not on collecting tariff from Americans, instead of open markets for American goods and agriculture. Maybe it is wars of choice, you like, where we and the world are worse off, after, than before it began?

 

[Woodznutz]

Bullshit! They are direct actions of Trump administration, allow unrestricted by his MAGA Congress, only loosely constrained by the courts. And you know it.
You still have not said what Democrats are running on that would make it worse, that you are so fearful of. Controlling trump's baser instincts until he gets the hell out of office will be a blessing to the country, unless you simply do not like the Constitution, Rule of Law, or like trade policy based not on collecting tariff from Americans, instead of open markets for American goods and agriculture. Maybe it is wars of choice, you like, where we and the world are worse off, after, than before it began?

It's not the Democrat Party that is the main culprit. It's Democrats and liberals in general. Democrat voters and other liberals cause huge societal problems, then the party makes up stupid solutions that everyone, including themselves, know won't work. When in power they double down on the lunacy.

 

[White 6]

It's not the Democrat Party that is the main culprit. It's Democrats and liberals in general. Democrat voters and other liberals cause huge societal problems, then the party makes up stupid solutions that everyone, including themselves, know won't work. When in power they double down on the lunacy.

My grocery bill and fuel cost were not caused by Democrats. Uncontrolled, overzeal Feds arresting and even shooting and killing American is not caused by Democrats. Spending trillions of dollars on military adventurism and getting Americans killed with his war of choice with Iran, for what he now says was PR value, that destabilize the Petroleum market for the whole world, was not caused by Democrats. Closing foreign markets to US Farmers, by a Trump Trade war (that was finally ruled illegal) was not caused by Democrats. And as a business person, I can tell you it is very hard to win back a customer, you have foolishly antagonized and run off for petty reasons that had nothing to do with trade. Big customers, simply will not trust you not to fk them over again, on a whim.

What "huge societal problem" are bigger than that? None. That's what.

 

[Woodznutz]

My grocery bill and fuel cost were not caused by Democrats. Uncontrolled, overzeal Feds arresting and even shooting and killing American is not caused by Democrats. Spending trillions of dollars on military adventurism and getting Americans killed with his war of choice with Iran, for what he now says was PR value, that destabilize the Petroleum market for the whole world, was not caused by Democrats. Closing foreign markets to US Farmers, by a Trump Trade war (that was finally ruled illegal) was not caused by Democrats. And as a business person, I can tell you it is very hard to win back a customer, you have foolishly antagonized and run off for petty reasons that had nothing to do with trade. Big customers, simply will not trust you not to fk them over again, on a whim.

What "huge societal problem" are bigger than that? None. That's what.

Many of the problems you cite are only temporary.
I would offer that crime, drugs, healthcare issues are more pervasive problems, mostly caused by liberals.

 

[westwall]

Obviously. Are you stupid? Any comment about your pedo failing to open the strait of hormuz?

Trump is no pedo. But your Biden is.

DURRRRRR

 

[Blaster]

My grocery bill and fuel cost were not caused by Democrats. Uncontrolled, overzeal Feds arresting and even shooting and killing American is not caused by Democrats. Spending trillions of dollars on military adventurism and getting Americans killed with his war of choice with Iran, for what he now says was PR value, that destabilize the Petroleum market for the whole world, was not caused by Democrats. Closing foreign markets to US Farmers, by a Trump Trade war (that was finally ruled illegal) was not caused by Democrats. And as a business person, I can tell you it is very hard to win back a customer, you have foolishly antagonized and run off for petty reasons that had nothing to do with trade. Big customers, simply will not trust you not to fk them over again, on a whim.

What "huge societal problem" are bigger than that? None. That's what.

You have a severe case of TDS.

 

[BluesLegend]

Why? It is hard to see, it being any worse.

LMAO Joe Biden, cackling Kamala and 15 million RAPING MURDERING illegals HELLO!!

 

[toobfreak]

Pull back the blockade, open the strait, and declare victory.

Trump is not keeping anyone from using the Strait except Iran.

Iran is the ones blocking the Strait.