Trump Celebrates Fourth Of July By Deporting Veterans And Their Families

[Seth]

Not only is there more than enough evidence that he's a fraud.... but I also have learned to trust my intuition... and discernment, which is a spiritual thing. But anyway, this is post is getting really long, so for now I'll leave it at that. Thanks for being civil.

First off—credit where due. You’re clearly not just keeping receipts, you’ve built an entire filing cabinet. I appreciate the thoroughness and the calm way you’re laying out your case.

Now, I read through everything, sat with it, re-read a few parts, and I think I’m starting to see the framework you're working from: not that Trump created all these programs or policies, but that he didn’t stop them, and that’s suspicious. I get it. It’s the “he didn’t build the train, but he let it leave the station” argument.

That said, I want to push back on a few points—not to debate you, but to make sure we’re not accidentally slipping from “question everything” into “trust no one and nothing, ever.”


mRNA & Warp Speed
Yeah, Trump turbocharged development, but I don’t think he cared if the vaccines were mRNA, plant-based, or brewed in a cauldron by goblins—as long as they beat the lockdowns. That’s not pro-transhumanism; that’s political triage. He hasn't really mentioned it since, and I don’t think Pfizer has him on speed dial.

Freedom Cities
Admittedly, the name sounds like something from SimCity: Utopia Edition, but the actual proposal was vague. Big tech zones, baby bonuses, maybe a flying car or two—but no sign of 15-minute-city lockdowns or surveillance grids. I think someone just gave the speechwriter too much Red Bull.

Digital ID
The Real ID Act is like a DMV sleep paralysis demon—it’s been haunting us since 2005. Every president just kind of shrugs and kicks the deadline down the road. If this was a secret plot, it’s the slowest conspiracy ever. Still, worth watching, but I don’t think Trump personally opened the biometric Eye of Sauron.

Trump at the WEF
Sure, he went. So have nearly all major world leaders. I’ve been to office parties where I didn’t like half the people there—doesn’t mean I joined their secret society. Trump called out globalism at the UN and spent most of Davos giving them the side-eye. If he’s a sleeper agent, he’s terrible at blending in.

Big Picture​

I know your concern isn’t about one policy or event—it’s about the pattern. And I respect that. But I worry that if we frame every political figure as controlled opposition, we box ourselves into a worldview where nobody can be trusted—and that’s exactly the kind of division and despair bad actors thrive on.

Let’s stay skeptical, but also sane. Let’s ask questions, but still acknowledge differences between “flawed politician” and “lizard person in a human suit.”

Thanks for the thoughtful exchange—I’m learning a lot from how you structure your arguments, even if we don’t land in the same place.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

I'll go through these points one by one and I'll include links for you.

The new mRNA vaccine was indeed introduced on his second day, it was announced at the same time as Project Stargate.

Larry Ellison was the one who talked about it, as you can see here:




There was a backlash from many people including his own base, so Trump has not spoken about it much since....But at the same time, he hasn't disavowed the mRNA cancer vaccine idea.




It does show up, on his own website. Do an in-page search "Freedom Cities" on this page.

Here's a clip of him talking about it:




And here's an article about it, from an opposing perspective:

Trump’s call for building ‘Freedom Cities’ plays right into globalists’ plan for Fourth Industrial Revolution control grid

Trump pledges to build new generation of cities on federal lands, where everyone is prosperous, safe and secure with lots of police and flying cars Everyone who is awake knows that all modern citie…

leohohmann.com

As for a Digital ID, I didn't claim that he brought it about, I said that he is moving us in that direction. To be clear, the digital ID idea is not solely a Trump thing. Here's an article for you on how the "REAL ID" (which was in the works for a long time, but was recently mandated on Trump's watch) is moving us one step at a time closer to a mandatory digital ID.

Real ID, Voter ID & Digital ID: The Future of American Identification

While MAGA celebrates Trump's latest Executive Order, the reality is that it's inching Americans closer to mandatory digital ID programs.

www.thelastamericanvagabond.com

I didn't say that AI development is technocracy, and I didn't say that technocracy is transhumanism. Technocracy and transhumanism are two different things, but they do tend to go hand in hand.

As for technocracy, his massive push for AI is part of it (and that is a WEF agenda) but that’s not the only reason why I believe we’re heading toward Technocracy. Like I said, Trump has partnered with technocrats or powerful people with technocratic leanings, even if not all of them are open about it. Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Sam Altman, Larry Ellison, to name a few.

Look at what Larry Ellison is promoting here in this clip. What he’s describing is part of technocratic surveillance state:





Let me ask you a question, and please answer honestly. If the global powers-that-shouldn't-be want to bring about the "Great Reset" aka the New World Order, but their biggest opponents are conservatives and liberty-minded people.... true patriots.... then which one of these two options would be a better way for them to bring about their agenda? A) Using an openly globalist left-wing Democrat president that conservatives and patriots would immediately and fiercely oppose? OR, B) a "controlled opposition" fake Republican who is charismatic, says the right things and is very good at gaining people's loyalty and trust, but in reality is a Pied Piper?

From a purely strategic standpoint, which one would make more sense for them... a politician who would bring about fierce opposition from the right, or a politician who would placate the very patriot movement that would normally have been most militant about opposing globalism and technocracy?

I've said this before but I'll say it again... Most of us don't think this way because we're regular people with good intentions. But you have to consider how the enemy thinks. Corrupt, evil people don't think the same way you and I do. They are strategic, and they use deceptive tactics.

As for what you said about him not having any love for the WEF..... I beg to differ. He has visited the WEF and engaged with them 2 or 3 times and he doesn't look like he's enemies with them to me. Yes, of course presidents have to be diplomatic, but he could also not visit them at all, if he was truly against what they stand for.


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That said, obviously he's not going to show agreement or love for them in front of his base. He does good a job of playing the role of a "nationalist" Republican.



Not only is there more than enough evidence that he's a fraud.... but I also have learned to trust my intuition... and discernment, which is a spiritual thing. But anyway, this is post is getting really long, so for now I'll leave it at that. Thanks for being civil.

buttercup regarding your first YouTube, do you have a problem with this? If so, WHY???

 

[JoeB131]

None of the people you mentioned who were deported are U.S. military veterans.

Why start your post with a lie.

If there are military veterans who are being deported for not being legally allowed to be in the United States, why did the Democrats and The Autopen not pass a law that allows any U.S. military veteran to stay in the United States no matter what?

Maybe because they felt that America still had enough humanity and common sense to not do that.

You know, if you took a bullet for this country, they shouldn't be deporting you.

A Purple Heart vet who self-deported to Korea says he feels his PTSD is now worse

In June, ICE agents gave Sae Joon Park an ankle monitor and told him he would be deported over old charges related to drug possession and bail jumping if he didn’t leave in weeks.

www.nbcnews.com

A Purple Heart veteran who self-deported to South Korea last week after being targeted with detention and deportation says that he believes his diagnosed PTSD has worsened since arriving in a country he hasn’t been to in decades.

Sae Joon Park, 55, a green-card holder who served in the Army more than 30 years ago, says he was told to leave the U.S. because of old charges related to drug possession and bail jumping, or a failure to return to court. Park said the offenses trace back to the difficulty he once had dealing with his then-undiagnosed PTSD.


“It just comes out of nowhere. I’ll be walking around just thinking about something, I’ll just start bawling, just crying nonstop. And I have no control over that,” Park told NBC News from Seoul of his PTSD. “I’ve been dealing with it the best I can everyday.”

Park, a longtime Hawaii resident, said that for years, he attended annual check-ins with Immigration and Customs Enforcement after being served the removal order over a decade ago. However, in early June, during what he assumed was a regular check-in, ICE agents gave him an ankle monitor and told him that he would face detention and deportation if he failed to leave within three weeks. So Park, hoping to spare his family from further stress, booked a ticket back to his home country.


if you think this is "okay" then you are truly fucked up human being.

 

[JoeB131]

Trump is the ONLY ONE standing against the globalist Great Replacement. All real Americans should have spent the day THANKING GOD for this chance to stop the takeover of this country

When I hear shit like this, I have to wonder how messed up and racist you are.

Um, guy, the only people who have a right to complain about the "Great Replacement" are Native Americans.

Everyone here came from somewhere else. Human migration is the natural order of things.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Maybe because they felt that America still had enough humanity and common sense to not do that.

You know, if you took a bullet for this country, they shouldn't be deporting you.

Immigration requires specific action and follow-up by the immigrant.

Taking a bullet does not remove the obligation for the required actions.

The vast majority of these examples reveal lack of compliance by the prospective immigrant, often for decades when you sift through the details.

 

[skews13]

Whose mad? It's a fact. You can't defend it.

Whose mad? It's a fact. You can't defend it.

 

[Twisted Gypsy Child]

‘Trump and his administration are carrying out the cruelest and most sweeping mass deportation program in modern U.S. history. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents, acting at Trump's direction, have detained and deported veterans, their children, their spouses - even those who served alongside us on the battlefield. This is being done under the guise of "making America safe again," when statistically America has never been safer. In fact, the administration is destroying the families who actually do keep us safe.’ ibid

Exactly.

This is yet another manifestation of the fascist Trump regime.

mid-terms are going to be a rude wake up call

 

[JoeB131]

Immigration requires specific action and follow-up by the immigrant.

Taking a bullet does not remove the obligation for the required actions.

The vast majority of these examples reveal lack of compliance by the prospective immigrant, often for decades when you sift through the details.

Wow, I remember when "conservatives" were against government bureaucracy and overreach.

Let's apply this kind of strict adherence to bureaucracy to gun ownership. I'm sure we can find some gun law you and other gun nutters are violating.

Or we can maybe apply a little humanity and common sense.

If you took a bullet for this country, you should be allowed to stay, period. Not thrown out on a 20-year-old drug possession charge because you needed to self-medicate to treat your PTSD.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Or we can maybe apply a little humanity and common sense.

If you took a bullet for this country, you should be allowed to stay, period. Not thrown out on a 20-year-old drug possession charge because you needed to self-medicate to treat your PTSD.

Every deportation Democrats will have some reason that the law just doesn't apply in this case.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

mid-terms are going to be a rude wake up call

Says a Democrat who lost ALL BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT

 

[sparky]

So lemme ask here, if my cat skips the fence and has a litter of kittens in your garage, are they your responsibility?

~S~

 

[22lcidw]

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And that is correct. Then you add the taxation system for it. Freedom is freedom. If taxes and anything that takes resources from a paycheck and ways to live is forced on people, then liberty and justice has questions.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Maybe because they felt that America still had enough humanity and common sense to not do that.

You know, if you took a bullet for this country, they shouldn't be deporting you.

A Purple Heart vet who self-deported to Korea says he feels his PTSD is now worse

In June, ICE agents gave Sae Joon Park an ankle monitor and told him he would be deported over old charges related to drug possession and bail jumping if he didn’t leave in weeks.

www.nbcnews.com

So, why not show examples of Veterans being deported.

A Purple Heart veteran who self-deported to South Korea last week after being targeted with detention and deportation says that he believes his diagnosed PTSD has worsened since arriving in a country he hasn’t been to in decades.

Sae Joon Park, 55, a green-card holder who served in the Army more than 30 years ago, says he was told to leave the U.S. because of old charges related to drug possession and bail jumping, or a failure to return to court. Park said the offenses trace back to the difficulty he once had dealing with his then-undiagnosed PTSD.


“It just comes out of nowhere. I’ll be walking around just thinking about something, I’ll just start bawling, just crying nonstop. And I have no control over that,” Park told NBC News from Seoul of his PTSD. “I’ve been dealing with it the best I can everyday.”

Park, a longtime Hawaii resident, said that for years, he attended annual check-ins with Immigration and Customs Enforcement after being served the removal order over a decade ago. However, in early June, during what he assumed was a regular check-in, ICE agents gave him an ankle monitor and told him that he would face detention and deportation if he failed to leave within three weeks. So Park, hoping to spare his family from further stress, booked a ticket back to his home country.


if you think this is "okay" then you are truly fucked up human being.

That's your one? A self-admitted druggie who blames PTSD for his weakness and failure to follow the laws of the country in which he wished to stay as a guest?

 

[badbob85037]

Veterans across the country are watching as their parents, spouses, and children are swept up in raids. A father of three U.S. Marines was tackled at a landscaping job and arrested. And Jermaine Thomas - a man born on a U.S. Army base in Germany to a citizen father who died - was deported to Jamaica, a country he had never set foot in. Had Sen. John McCain or Bruce Willis been held to the same standard, we wouldn’t even know who they are.

It's not only veterans and their families getting the shaft for Independence Day. There's Sayed Naser Noori, an Afghan interpreter who spent a decade supporting U.S. troops. His brother was murdered by the Taliban because of that loyalty. He fled to the U.S. legally, through a port of entry, under humanitarian parole. But this month, at a routine court appearance, ICE agents arrested him. Now, Trump's administration is fast-tracking his deportation - even as his asylum case remains unresolved. A fine reward for someone who lost his own brother to protect our brothers and sisters in arms.

MSN

Not a good look donny. I'm sure Democrats will be holding a committee investigation, to make sure America watches your squirmy little turds testify on national television every day about it. I'm sure it will be as popular as those Healthcare cuts are.

Damn! I hoped for a mass killing. That ain't even worth watching! Maybe he'll round up some democrats later in the week.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Every deportation Democrats will have some reason that the law just doesn't apply in this case.

Idiots would think that. MAGA idiots.

 

[Twisted Gypsy Child]

Says a Democrat who lost ALL BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT

nopes
get your head out of your ass Carl

Never voted for a Democrat in a Presidential Election, never will. Voted for Trump reluctantly the first time. he shook me so hard, never again. The problem with the "Trump Party" is you simply can not keep your nose out of other peoples business. I would say that possibly I am more aligned with Libertarianism.

 

[JoeB131]

Every deportation Democrats will have some reason that the law just doesn't apply in this case.

Um, that's how our legal system works, guy.

on a case by case basis.

Of course, Biden deported more people than Trump did, but he did that following the law, and you didn't have stories of cancer patients being ripped from their mothers' arms our wounded veterans being picked up at their immigration hearings.

 

[buttercup]

buttercup regarding your first YouTube, do you have a problem with this? If so, WHY???

1, It's an mRNA vaccine, thats one of the reasons it can't be trusted. Have you not been paying attention in the last several years to all the deaths and injuries from the Covid jab? In fact a number of doctors who became whistleblowers say the jabs were toxic by design. Here's a quote from one of the whistleblowers, Dr. Mike Yeadon, former Pfizer VP: "[The mRNA-based Covid "vaccines"] were designed—intentionally—to harm, maim and kill, and to reduce human fertility."




2, It's AI-driven.

So mRNA and AI. What could possibly go wrong?

Why do you think there was so much backlash from Republicans after the initial announcement of this new vaccine back in January? Many Trump supporters are against mRNA vaccines after seeing what has been going on with the Covid jab.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Of course, Biden deported more people than Trump did, but he did that following the law, and you didn't have stories of cancer patients being ripped from their mothers' arms our wounded veterans being picked up at their immigration hearings.

ICE will pay to send the child cancer patient with their deported parent if that is what the deported parent chooses.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

1, It's an mRNA vaccine, thats one of the reasons it can't be trusted. Have you not been paying attention in the last several years to all the deaths and injuries from the Covid jab? In fact a number of doctors who became whistleblowers say the jabs were toxic by design. Here's a quote from one of the whistleblowers, Dr. Mike Yeadon, former Pfizer VP: "[The mRNA-based Covid "vaccines"] were designed—intentionally—to harm, maim and kill, and to reduce human fertility."




2, It's AI-driven.

So mRNA and AI. What could possibly go wrong?

Why do you think there was so much backlash from Republicans after the initial announcement of this new vaccine back in January? Many Trump supporters are against mRNA vaccines after seeing what has been going on with the Covid jab.

Are you opposed to blood tests for cancer? I'm not.
AI is a tool. Why not tailor a vaccine to target a cancer (assuming it's possible).

Yes I've had the first COVID shot then the booster. Nothing more. I do think it was rushed but there is nothing wrong intrinsically with this. But it was rushed, virtually untested. I do agree with the X post