Trump caught on tape

[Rawley]

Not really, they did. Not all records were taken to MAL, so some were turned over to the NARA at the time he left office. Then there were the 15-20 boxes that were turned over a few months after he left office. All that stuff is already held at an NARA facility.

The issue isn't that the NARA didn't store some stuff, it's that the FPOTUS took other Presidential Records (and classified documents) to MAL and retained them there after the FPOTUS left office.

WW

He took them to MAL, just like Obama took tens of millions of documents back with him to Chicago.

 

[WorldWatcher]

He took them to MAL, just like Obama took tens of millions of documents back with him to Chicago.

Press Statements in Response to Media Queries About Presidential Records

In response to recent media reports that generated a large number of queries about presidential records, we issued the following statements to the media: January 17, 2024, statement December 4, 2023, statement September 2, 2023, statement August 11, 2023, statement June 9, 2023, statement April...

www.archives.gov

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Obama didn't take 10's of millions of documents to Chicago. The documents are their in an NARA managed facility to colocate them at an expected future site of the Obama Library, and even then they will be under NARA's control.

Someone's been lying to you.

Oh, and the Obama's didn't go back to Chicago, they bought a home in Hawaii.

WW

 

[marvin martian]

Trump is going to claim he has no idea who this Trump guy is.

"I've never seen this guy in my life!"

EXCLUSIVE: Trump captured on tape talking about classified document he kept after leaving the White House​

Federal prosecutors have obtained an audio recording of a summer 2021 meeting in which former President Donald Trump acknowledges he held onto a classified Pentagon document about a potential attack on Iran, multiple sources told CNN, undercutting his argument that he declassified everything.

The recording indicates Trump understood he retained classified material after leaving the White House, according to multiple sources familiar with the investigation. On the recording, Trump’s comments suggest he would like to share the information but he’s aware of limitations on his ability post-presidency to declassify records, two of the sources said.

I thought you may have achieved your lifelong dream and finally got to watch the "pee tape".

LOL

 

[Rawley]

Press Statements in Response to Media Queries About Presidential Records

In response to recent media reports that generated a large number of queries about presidential records, we issued the following statements to the media: January 17, 2024, statement December 4, 2023, statement September 2, 2023, statement August 11, 2023, statement June 9, 2023, statement April...

www.archives.gov

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Obama didn't take 10's of millions of documents to Chicago. The documents are their in an NARA managed facility to colocate them at an expected future site of the Obama Library, and even then they will be under NARA's control.

Someone's been lying to you.

Backatacha The lying spivs at NARA are covering their asses since it's been revealed that they were the ones working scumbags at the FBI to screw Trump.

Back in 2018 the parties made it clear that Obama had control of the Hoffman Estates facility and there were tons of classified docs that he took from the WH.

7. The Obama Foundation agrees to transfer up to three million three hundred thousand dollars ($3,300,000) to the National Archives Trust Fund (NA TF) lo support the move of classified and unclassified Obama Presidential records and artifacts from Hoffman Estates to NARA-controlled facilities that confonn to the agency's archival storage standards for such records and artifacts, and for the modification of such spaces. The first transfer of$300,000 was already made on August 9, 2018. An additional interim transfer will be made within 180 days of that date. Subsequent payments are subject to the negotiation oftenns of the digitization process and museum operations.

https://www.archives.gov/files/foia/letter-of-intent-re-obama-digitization-project.signed.2.pdf

 

[WorldWatcher]

Backatacha The lying spivs at NARA are covering their asses since it's been revealed that they were the ones working scumbags at the FBI to screw Trump.

Back in 2018 the parties made it clear that Obama had control of the Hoffman Estates facility and there were tons of classified docs that he took from the WH.

https://www.archives.gov/files/foia/letter-of-intent-re-obama-digitization-project.signed.2.pdf

Money raised by the Obama Presidential library to assist in upgrading the facility to NARA standards doesn't mean the documents where under Obama's control.

The facilities and control and custody of the the documents were still the responsibility of the NARA.

The non-profit Presidential Library Foundation and the NARA work closely together. The organization maintains the library facilities, the NARA controls the contents. Works pretty well actually as the facilities are not coming out of the taxpayers wallet while the NARA retains control of the government property (Presidential Records).

WW

 

[Rawley]

Money raised by the Obama Presidential library to assist in upgrading the facility to NARA standards doesn't mean the documents where under Obama's control.

The facilities and control and custody of the the documents were still the responsibility of the NARA.

Words do have meaning.

to support the move of classified and unclassified Obama Presidential records and artifacts from Hoffman Estates to NARA-controlled facilities

Docs and the facility were controlled by Obama, not NARA.

 

[Marener]

Docs and the facility were controlled by Obama, not NARA.

Hoffmann Estates is a NARA facility, so yes they are controlled by NARA.

Federal Register :: Request Access

www.federalregister.gov

 

[Rawley]

Hoffmann Estates is a NARA facility, so yes they are controlled by NARA.

Federal Register :: Request Access

www.federalregister.gov

It is now. It wasn't then. Read the document.

 

[Marener]

It is now. It wasn't then. Read the document.

I have read the document. It doesn’t say anywhere that Hoffmann Estates belongs to Obama.

Its been a NARA facility ever since they moved Obama’s records there.

 

[Rawley]

I have read the document. It doesn’t say anywhere that Hoffmann Estates belongs to Obama.

Its been a NARA facility ever since they moved Obama’s records there.

Got any support for your claim that Hoffman Estates was a NARA facility in 2017?

I gave you the agreement between Obama and NARA that he would pay to move his documents (classified and unclassified) from Hoffman Estates to a NARA facility. Makes it clear that Hoffman estates was not a NARA facility.

All you provide is your gums flapping.

 

[Marener]

Got any support for your claim that Hoffman Estates was a NARA facility in 2017?

I have a statement from NARA:

September 23, 2022, statement ​

The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) administers the Barack Obama Presidential Library, located in Hoffman Estates, Illinois, a suburb of Chicago. The library holds records from the Obama presidential administration and is leased, controlled, managed, and used exclusively by NARA. The Obama Foundation, an independent entity, has never had control over the records in Hoffman Estates.

Press Statements in Response to Media Queries About Presidential Records

In response to recent media reports that generated a large number of queries about presidential records, we issued the following statements to the media: January 17, 2024, statement December 4, 2023, statement September 2, 2023, statement August 11, 2023, statement June 9, 2023, statement April...

www.archives.gov

I gave you the agreement between Obama and NARA that he would pay to move his documents (classified and unclassified) from Hoffman Estates to a NARA facility. Makes it clear that Hoffman estates was not a NARA facility.

No, the agreement doesn’t “make it clear” at all. Nowhere does it say that Hoffmann estates is controlled by Obama. You made that up.

 

[Rawley]

No, the agreement doesn’t “make it clear” at all. Nowhere does it say that Hoffmann estates is controlled by Obama. You made that up.

Fourth and last time.

7. The Obama Foundation agrees to transfer up to three million three hundred thousand dollars ($3,300,000) to the National Archives Trust Fund (NATF) to support the move of classified and unclassified Obama Presidential records and artifacts from Hoffman Estates to NARA-controlled facilities

If Hoffman Estates was a "NARA-controlled facilit[y]" why would they have to move his docs "from Hoffman Estates to NARA-controlled facilities?"

 

[Marener]

Fourth and last time.



If Hoffman Estates was a "NARA-controlled facilit[y]" why would they have to move his docs "from Hoffman Estates to NARA-controlled facilities?"

Because Hoffman estates was only ever intended to be a temporary storage location while the Obama Foundation works to digitize them. Once their digitized, NARA takes them wherever they want for long term storage.

 

[Rawley]

Because Hoffman estates was only ever intended to be a temporary storage location while the Obama Foundation works to digitize them. Once their digitized, NARA takes them wherever they want for long term storage.

Gum are flapping again.

 

[Marener]

Gum are flapping again.

It’s talked about a lot in the letter you keep talking about. Apparently you didn’t read it:

That’s the reason for the documents going to Hoffmann estates.

The memorandum of understanding goes further into detail:

https://www.archives.gov/files/foia/obama-digitization-mou-executed-2-15-19.pdf

Such as this:

If Hoffmann estates isn’t a NARA facility, why would the Obama foundation need to ask NARA to provide rooms at Hoffman estates?

So tell me why you are going to ignore the statement from NARA that directly contradicts your claim, which is based entirely on inference?

 

[Rawley]

It’s talked about a lot in the letter you keep talking about. Apparently you didn’t read it:

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You do realize you are making my argument for me, right? It states that the "artifacts" were transferred to NARA's custody, but doesn't say the same for the documents.

That’s the reason for the documents going to Hoffmann estates.

The memorandum of understanding goes further into detail:

https://www.archives.gov/files/foia/obama-digitization-mou-executed-2-15-19.pdf

Such as this:
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If Hoffmann estates isn’t a NARA facility, why would the Obama foundation need to ask NARA to provide rooms at Hoffman estates?

So tell me why you are going to ignore the statement from NARA that directly contradicts your claim, which is based entirely on inference?

Yup 2019. Not 2017, or 2018.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

horseshit

Too funny.
Bookmarked for future mockery.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

You hypocrites can twist into pretzels all day long, but if you're going to charge PRESIDENT Trump, you are going to have to charge SENATOR Biden for the SAME ******* THING!!!!!!!

Interesting.
Can you point to any obstruction committed by either Pence or Biden? Any subpoenas or search warrants?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

/----/ OH YOU GOT HIM THIS TIME # 6,789

He’s about to be indicted at least two more times by the end of summer, fool.

 

[Marener]

You do realize you are making my argument for me, right? It states that the "artifacts" were transferred to NARA's custody, but doesn't say the same for the documents.

And? We already have a NARA statement indicating that they moved the documents in 2017 to Hoffmann Estates.

Yup 2019. Not 2017, or 2018.

And? The Obama foundation has been working on this with NARA for a while.