trump calls Olympic skier a "real loser"

[Dragonlady]

What your reply shows isn’t calm analysis. It’s emotionally loaded rhetoric. The language is saturated with moral condemnation and high arousal framing “assholes” “clown” “creep” “criminal president” “race riots” “hate”, plus sweeping judgments and mind reading about motives. Whether you feel angry or not is beside the point. The emotional content of the text itself is doing the work here.

More importantly, you’re not actually responding to me. You’ve assigned me responsibility for things I explicitly didn’t do. None of that follows from anything I said. That’s not debate. You’re arguing with a symbolic “Trump supporter” avatar instead of my actual position. At that point the conversation stops being about ideas and turns into projection onto a constructed target.

You seem a bit unhinged.

Keeping digging yourself in deeper. Make no mistake, the world is done with Americans and their excuses for letting this criminal even run for office a second time. The old adage "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me", comes to mind.

We're done mincing words with you idiots. We're now calling you out in the only language you seem to understand. You keep saying how Trump "tells it like it is", well we're not going to pretend that Trump is a decent human being with a few bad tendencies.

You knowingly elected a convicted felon, self-admitted rapist, and a man with no moral character whatsoever, as your President. He tore up all of your trade deals - once again, and is currently slapping tariffs on anyone who displeases him in any manner.

These tariffs violate your Constitution, and every trade agreement Trump negotiated in his first term, but he's declare all of those deals "stupid", because the result of the Great Negotiator's work, you trade deficit was nearly double what it was when he took officce.

Did you write this yourself, or did you have AI do it for you??? I'm not "mind reading" about your motives. I'm calling you out for your projections, Mr. "I psycho-analysized your language.

Yesterday, my 10 year old granddaughter booed when American figure skater Illia Malinin took to the ice. Malinin is hands down, the best figure skater who ever lived. His mother competed for Uzbekistan, and is a former European Women's Champion. He is a first generation, son of an immigrant, and he is apolitical. I chided my granddaughter for her boos.

Your not the "good guys" anymore. You're the nation locking up black and brown immigrants in concentration camps, and feeding them rotten food. You're shooting protestors in the streets, and blaming the victims.

A crime organization has taken over your country, and is attempting to shake down the rest of the free world. Buy our weapons or else. Give us Greenland, or else. Give us Canada, or else.

Trump has taken Venezuela and the money is going into his personal account.

If the only way to get YOU to understand our revulsion is to use strong words to express our disgust with the American people for allowing this to happen, then so be it. I don't have to be "angry" to express my disgust at the lack of morality in your nation these days.

 

[Dragonlady]

Why do these athletes need to open their mouths and criticize our country and President then?

Because they're being attacked and booed just for being Americans.

 

[Bitterhook]

Skaters are not required to request copyright permission for use of their music. ASCAP has an overall rights agreement with the USFSA, and other figure skating associations, which covers the use of music by the athletes, so that athletes are compensated for their use of their music via said Agreements.

My daughter was a competitive figure skater, and one of our friends cut music for programs. I was working for an intellectual property lawyer at the time, and enquired about getting permission for the music. Also, it is up to the broadcaster of live programs to ensure that the rights to the use of all of the music for live events, are in place before the event.

Every Friday was spent getting these clearances sorted out for the weekend broadcasts during awards season, but we never had to clear figure skating competitions, because agreements were in place for use of the music.

That's probably why I mentioned that I didn't know what that was going to amount to, because what I was reading suggested something entirely different than what you are posting, and I still don't know what that will amount to because I am no more going to take your word for it than I took theirs.

However, thanks for your insights, for whatever that may be worth in the long run.

 

[Anomalism]

Keeping digging yourself in deeper. Make no mistake, the world is done with Americans and their excuses for letting this criminal even run for office a second time. The old adage "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me", comes to mind.

We're done mincing words with you idiots. We're now calling you out in the only language you seem to understand. You keep saying how Trump "tells it like it is", well we're not going to pretend that Trump is a decent human being with a few bad tendencies.

You knowingly elected a convicted felon, self-admitted rapist, and a man with no moral character whatsoever, as your President. He tore up all of your trade deals - once again, and is currently slapping tariffs on anyone who displeases him in any manner.

These tariffs violate your Constitution, and every trade agreement Trump negotiated in his first term, but he's declare all of those deals "stupid", because the result of the Great Negotiator's work, you trade deficit was nearly double what it was when he took officce.

Did you write this yourself, or did you have AI do it for you??? I'm not "mind reading" about your motives. I'm calling you out for your projections, Mr. "I psycho-analysized your language.

Yesterday, my 10 year old granddaughter booed when American figure skater Illia Malinin took to the ice. Malinin is hands down, the best figure skater who ever lived. His mother competed for Uzbekistan, and is a former European Women's Champion. He is a first generation, son of an immigrant, and he is apolitical. I chided my granddaughter for her boos.

Your not the "good guys" anymore. You're the nation locking up black and brown immigrants in concentration camps, and feeding them rotten food. You're shooting protestors in the streets, and blaming the victims.

A crime organization has taken over your country, and is attempting to shake down the rest of the free world. Buy our weapons or else. Give us Greenland, or else. Give us Canada, or else.

Trump has taken Venezuela and the money is going into his personal account.

If the only way to get YOU to understand our revulsion is to use strong words to express our disgust with the American people for allowing this to happen, then so be it. I don't have to be "angry" to express my disgust at the lack of morality in your nation these days.

You're not arguing. You’re venting a generalized moral narrative about “Americans” as a collective and assigning me agency inside it. The real object of anger (a political system, a leader, a country) is too abstract to engage with directly, so you collapsed it onto the nearest available person, which right now is me. The emotional load keeps escalating. You're using totalizing language, absolute moral claims, dehumanizing labels and sweeping collective guilt. That’s not telling it like it is. You’ve merged identity, politics, and ethics into a single undifferentiated blob.

Psychologically, this is high arousal moralization plus projection. You accuse me of projections while doing continuous mind reading “you knowingly elected” “you tolerate” “you are the nation doing X” despite me explicitly denying those premises. That’s just obvious narrative enforcement. The structure is identical to the very ideology you claim to oppose. Collective guilt, essentialized groups, moral contamination by association, and emotional justification for hostility. You sound like a Nazi right now.

You're shouting at the wind. The real audience isn’t me. It’s your own internal story about who the villains are and why your outrage is righteous.

 

[dblack]

I've never understood why people care so much about what athletes and celebrities think about politics.

"Hey, you're an excellent skier. What are your thoughts on the state of world?"

Agreed. Actors, entertainers in general, same deal.

"Hey, you were really funny as a game show host, would you like to be president?"

 

[IM2]

Why do these athletes need to open their mouths and criticize our country and President then?

You didn't mind criticism of Obama or Biden and if Harris were President, you wouldn't mind it either.

 

[IM2]

Agreed. Actors, entertainers in general, same deal.

"Hey, you were really funny as a game show host, would you like to be president?"

Trump was a reality show actor and now he is President. Before him, Reagan co-starred with a monkey, and he eventually became a President that many on the right consider the greatest President. That's fiction, but...

So it seems that actors and entertainers are just fine.... As long as they repeat the American fairy tale lie.

 

[tshrimp]

Trump's not wrong, but do wish he was more presidential with his comments. Thankfully his actions are what all leaders should take note of as a blueprint.

 

[braalian]

Trump's not wrong, but do wish he was more presidential with his comments. Thankfully his actions are what all leaders should take note of as a blueprint.

Wouldn't the presidential thing to do be stop rage-tweeting like a teenage girl every time someone disagrees with you?

 

[airplanemechanic]

The Felon with his racism and pedophilia is dooming the repubs for the mid-term.

I am sure he has staff working on a way to cheat.

And he STILL beat your empty pantsuit.

 

[IM2]

Trump's not wrong, but do wish he was more presidential with his comments. Thankfully his actions are what all leaders should take note of as a blueprint.

Trump is wrong. The man is not a loser. He is in the Olympics. He is one of the best on earth at what he does. He has reached a level Trump will never get to.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Wouldn't the presidential thing to do be stop rage-tweeting like a teenage girl every time someone disagrees with you?

Yea, he just doesn't NEED to do this stuff. My parents are DIEHARD Trump supports, but BOTH have commented about things he's tweeted, saying they just don't sound "presidential", they sound like a petulant schoolboy upset that another boy said he had ugly shoes.

He could have said something a bit more neutral, such as "Hunter has a right, here in our beautiful nation, to attack the same nation he is representing in the Olympics. A lot of men and women died for that right, and while I don't agree with what he says, I'm so glad that he lives in a nation where he has the right to speak his mind." ---That would flush him and his opinion right down the toilet. And without attacking him personally.

The problem is, now, he's done it so much for EVERYONE who says something about him that it seems like he's weak if he DOESN'T say something if someone attacks him.

People attacked Bush Jr and Bozo the clown incessantly, albeit not quite as publicly as current social media allows, but you NEVER heard either of them respond to any of it. NEVER.

Although on the other side of the coin, the left has been attacking Trump nonstop since he announced he was running for president in 2015. Even attacked him non-stop for the 4 years of the installed toilet.

 

[IM2]

And he STILL beat your empty pantsuit.

What Trump did was fool enough of you morons to make you vote against your best interest by using racism to pay t your resentment about imaginary anti-white discrimination. He would not win today.

 

[IM2]

Yea, he just doesn't NEED to do this stuff.

The problem is, now, he's done it so much for EVERYONE who says something about him that it seems like he's weak if he DOESN'T say something if someone attacks him.

People attacked Bush Jr and Bozo the clown incessantly, albeit not quite as publicly as current social media allows, but you NEVER heard either of them respond to any of it. NEVER.

Although on the other side of the coin, the left has been attacking Trump nonstop since he announced he was running for president in 2015. Even attacked him non-stop for the 4 years of the installed toilet.

Trump has been the one attacking people. That skier didn't say a damn thing about Trump. Trump ran his mouth daily about Biden and worked to sabotage his presidency. And despite that and the lies you chose to feed yourself from right-wing sources of information, Biden was actually one of the best presidents of the modern era. America made a mistake in 2024, and we are going to learn a painful lesson because of you idiots.

 

[airplanemechanic]

What Trump did was fool enough of you morons to make you vote against your best interest by using racism to pay t your resentment about imaginary anti-white discrimination. He would not win today.

We loved Trump the first time, and REALLY love him the 2nd. So you voted for Kumalot because she was black? Isn't that just as racist as if someone voted for Trump because he's white? Or is it only one way?

Meanwhile your party's selection for VP for the last election had to resign because of MASSIVE fraud, and he's now under criminal investigation.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Why do these athletes need to open their mouths and criticize our country and President then?

Athletes have always opened their mouths, what makes your opinion any more important than theirs. Politics in this country affects their lives just as much as yours.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

 

[airplanemechanic]

I think people voted for Trump BECAUSE he's not presidential. Look what happens when we vote for a "presidential" president. We get shit we dont want, like 35 trillion dollars in debt, Obamacare, fumbling stumbling Biden, etc.

Mine as well vote for some billionaire that has his own jet and runs multiple companies and lets see what he can do.

 

[JimH52]

"Approaching" my ass, you sorry fuckers are doing the best you can to create a Ruling Class on Capitol Hill and have been successful in doing so for a while.

The only conflict you can find is who controls the message, when obviously you really don't give a **** about the people at all, and would rather they surrender their power in their states and communities, to the oligarchs and assclowns you send to the Beltway.

Then you run around like retards screaming about "No Kings" when everything you support is what has created the Establishment, and the aristocracy you would rather pretend you are against.

Says the person that voted for a Con man three times. The world is shunning trumpism. Countries are lining up to trade with China while the Felon is attacking allies while trumpeting the Poootin message. You Magats are clueless. November can’t come too quickly.

 

[Lockback]

I think people voted for Trump BECAUSE he's not presidential. Look what happens when we vote for a "presidential" president. We get shit we dont want, like 35 trillion dollars in debt, Obamacare, fumbling stumbling Biden, etc.

Mine as well vote for some billionaire that has his own jet and runs multiple companies and lets see what he can do.

Absolutely correct.
Those professional politicians do nothing but lie and screw us over. It was time for something different.