Trump Ballroom Unlikely To Be Built

Demolition requires permits, everywhere. especially of a historic structure,
You are usually complying with State or city regulations, not so at the WH.
The Whitehouse is on Federal property, and the president has Article 2 powers there.
Tearing something down with no plan for what will replace it is inefficient and wasteful.
Says who? Never try to bullshit a bullshitter.
Doing it without a permit opens the door to litigation, since the destroyer is breaking the law.
The court already said Trump can proceed. No law was broken.
 
You are usually complying with State or city regulations, not so at the WH.
The Whitehouse is on Federal property, and the president has Article 2 powers there.

You forget, congress has Article 1 powers there.

Congress's role in federal buildings involves broad authority to create, fund, oversee, and legislate regarding them, stemming from the Constitution's power to "make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting...Property belonging to the United States," encompassing everything from establishing agencies to conducting investigations, ensuring accountability through funding and hearings, and even controlling their physical construction and access for Members through specific laws and oversight.
 
Frankly, I can't think of a better metaphor for the whole Trump Regime. They are very good at tearing things down, but they suck at actually building anything.


In October, Donald Trump traumatized all true patriots by tearing down the East Wing of the White House. The move, he claims, will clear the way for a ballroom for holding large events that are typically held in tents on the South Lawn. A debate immediately arose online over whether or not the next Democratic president should tear down the ballroom or keep it, albeit with the necessary extensive renovations to remove all the tackiness Trump brings to any project.

Two months later, it increasingly seems that such discussion was a wasted effort, as the chance this ballroom will actually be built is rapidly disappearing. Perhaps it could have if Trump had delegated the management of the project to someone competent, but that’s not what he did. Instead, the famously lazy and disorganized president decided to blow off his actual governance duties in favor of micromanaging a construction project he is incapable of handling. Finishing the ballroom in the next three years would be difficult for anyone, but it’s quickly becoming clear it will be nearly impossible for the famed real estate tycoon to pull it off.

For anyone who has dealt with any renovation project more complex than patching drywall, the ballroom’s construction is waving every red flag possible, signaling endless delays that will stretch for months — and, in all likelihood, for years. Despite announcing plans for the ballroom in July, it’s clear there’s no idea what it’s going to look like, how big it will be or how it will be laid out. Trump keeps changing things, driven by a short-sighted impulsiveness that keeps pushing him to expand the scope of the project. Initially, it was supposed to seat 650 people in 90,000 square feet, but he kept throwing tantrums about how he wanted it bigger. Earlier this month, he even ran off the initial architect, and odds are that will happen again.

Then there’s the red tape. Even though a judge ruled against the National Trust for Historic Preservation in their lawsuit to temporarily halt construction, he required the White House to avoid building anything foundational and demanded plans for the structure be submitted by the end of the year. But as the White House hasn’t even scheduled meetings with the National Capital Planning Commission to start the process, meeting that deadline appears unlikely.
I get Joe and City Gator confused. Is there any way to tell them apart?
 
You are usually complying with State or city regulations, not so at the WH.

Contrary to the lie you keep repeating, there is a very well established and thorough process for removing or renovating any significant Federal building.

You’re just a liar whose only argument is to repeat the lie.
The Whitehouse is on Federal property, and the president has Article 2 powers there.

The President does not have unilateral power to demolish anything, much less the White House
Says who? Never try to bullshit a bullshitter.

There is one liar here. One who repeats his lies,tries to make up excuses for his lies, and can’t back up a single claim with any sort of fact.
The court already said Trump can proceed. No law was broken.

The Court allowed the project to move ahead on the condition that the proper documents be submitted in two week.

Since Trump just replaced the architect, it is clear that no such documents exist, or are likely to appear in two weeks,either.

No court ever approved this project.
 
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Obama added lines and a hoop to the already existing tennis courts.

Not really the same thing as tearing down an entire wing of the White House.
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You forget, congress has Article 1 powers there.

Congress's role in federal buildings involves broad authority to create, fund, oversee, and legislate regarding them, stemming from the Constitution's power to "make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting...Property belonging to the United States," encompassing everything from establishing agencies to conducting investigations, ensuring accountability through funding and hearings, and even controlling their physical construction and access for Members through specific laws and oversight.
The key thread in that is the word FUNDING regarding "establishing agencies".
Otherwise the president is the boss in and around the Whitehouse.
 
Contrary to the lie you keep repeating, there is a very well established and thorough process for removing or renovating any significant Federal building.
And the White House, the Capitol and the Supreme Court are exempt.


You’re just a liar whose only argument is to repeat the lie.
So are you a liar, or just ignorant? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say it's ignorance.
 
I imagine what actually gets built will either be smaller or have the majority of it kitted out for offices for Admin staff.
 
Contrary to the lie you keep repeating, there is a very well established and thorough process for removing or renovating any significant Federal building.
So link it. Stop bullshitting.
You’re just a liar whose only argument is to repeat the lie.

The President does not have unilateral power to demolish anything, much less the White House
Whitehouse renovations are routinely done by the president without congressional "approval".
There is one liar here. One who repeats his lies, tries to make up excuses for his lies, and can’t back up a single claim with any sort of fact. No court ever approved this project.

Federal judge allows Trump's White House ballroom construction to move forward​

Judge allows Trump’s ballroom project to proceed for now​

Judge Says He Will Not Immediately Halt Trump’s Ballroom Project​

 
And the White House, the Capitol and the Supreme Court are exempt.



So are you a liar, or just ignorant? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say it's ignorance.

No, the Nationl Trust does not have jurisdiction.

the National Capital Planning Commission and the Commission of Fine Arts Do.
 
So link it. Stop bullshitting.

So link it. Stop bullshitting.


Whitehouse renovations are routinely done by the president without congressional "approval".

Federal judge allows Trump's White House ballroom construction to move forward​

Judge allows Trump’s ballroom project to proceed for now​

Judge Says He Will Not Immediately Halt Trump’s Ballroom Project​


Whitehouse renovations are routinely done by the president without congressional "approval".

Federal judge allows Trump's White House ballroom construction to move forward​

Judge allows Trump’s ballroom project to proceed for now​

Judge Says He Will Not Immediately Halt Trump’s Ballroom Project​

 
Frankly, I can't think of a better metaphor for the whole Trump Regime. They are very good at tearing things down, but they suck at actually building anything.


In October, Donald Trump traumatized all true patriots by tearing down the East Wing of the White House. The move, he claims, will clear the way for a ballroom for holding large events that are typically held in tents on the South Lawn. A debate immediately arose online over whether or not the next Democratic president should tear down the ballroom or keep it, albeit with the necessary extensive renovations to remove all the tackiness Trump brings to any project.

Two months later, it increasingly seems that such discussion was a wasted effort, as the chance this ballroom will actually be built is rapidly disappearing. Perhaps it could have if Trump had delegated the management of the project to someone competent, but that’s not what he did. Instead, the famously lazy and disorganized president decided to blow off his actual governance duties in favor of micromanaging a construction project he is incapable of handling. Finishing the ballroom in the next three years would be difficult for anyone, but it’s quickly becoming clear it will be nearly impossible for the famed real estate tycoon to pull it off.

For anyone who has dealt with any renovation project more complex than patching drywall, the ballroom’s construction is waving every red flag possible, signaling endless delays that will stretch for months — and, in all likelihood, for years. Despite announcing plans for the ballroom in July, it’s clear there’s no idea what it’s going to look like, how big it will be or how it will be laid out. Trump keeps changing things, driven by a short-sighted impulsiveness that keeps pushing him to expand the scope of the project. Initially, it was supposed to seat 650 people in 90,000 square feet, but he kept throwing tantrums about how he wanted it bigger. Earlier this month, he even ran off the initial architect, and odds are that will happen again.

Then there’s the red tape. Even though a judge ruled against the National Trust for Historic Preservation in their lawsuit to temporarily halt construction, he required the White House to avoid building anything foundational and demanded plans for the structure be submitted by the end of the year. But as the White House hasn’t even scheduled meetings with the National Capital Planning Commission to start the process, meeting that deadline appears unlikely.
Hope there is enough money raised to replace what they destroyed.
 
Hope there is enough money raised to replace what they destroyed.
Are you kidding? Democrats don't use private funds when they can just force taxpayers to fork it over.
 
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The key thread in that is the word FUNDING regarding "establishing agencies".
Otherwise the president is the boss in and around the Whitehouse.
Wrong, you forgot congresses article 1 powers over all things federal.

National Historic Preservation
Act of 1966, as amended (NHPA) (16
U.S.C. § 470 et seq.) Requires federal
agencies to manage historic
properties under their jurisdiction or
control. Historic properties include
buildings, structures, districts, sites,
and objects included or eligible for
inclusion in the National Register of
Historic Places. Requires federal
agencies to consider the effects of
their actions, including ongoing
facility management, on such
properties, regardless of ownership

Chapter 33 of Subtitle II of Title
40 of the United States Code
(formerly the Public Buildings Act
of 1959, as amended) (40 U.S.C. §§
3301-3315). Provides that only the
Administrator of General Services
may construct public buildings,
including the repair and alteration of
such buildings.
 

That photo is from 1934.

It was part of a renovation approved by Congress, funded by Congress, and conducted by the PWA (A Congressionally created agency called the Public Works Administration).

It has no bearing to the here and now when President Trump is violating the law.

WW
 
And we are paying those consequences
We deserve it
This could end. You must end it now. Just stop ph ukn with him. You won't. He is mocking the last two Prog Commie presidents for a reason. Legitimate ones. Everyone sees it at the White House.
 

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