trump bailing out Argentine beef ranchers.

[cnm]

He'll be gone in a few years. The system will survive.

I'm willing to wager a cyber whiskey the system will be mostly gone by then. Checks and balances and three arms are history already.

 

[cnm]

There was no hypocrisy. All i said was, I dont expect we will be seeing dems complain about farmers getting subsidies.

My observation is that happens when farmers complain about others getting subsidies.

Which is not seldom.

 

[ThisIsMe]

So can you point to a post where you've praised a farmer for taking subsidies? That was the point of the general enquiry.

Ive not spoken much about them but here is a sarcastic post which shows my support of them in a sarcastic way.

Post in thread 'Red state farmers beg for Socialist handouts' Red state farmers beg for Socialist handouts

 

[cnm]

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/bessent-vows-that-us-wont-lose-taxpayer-money-aiding-argentina-2025-10-26/

As usual Dems are lying their asses off.

Uh..ur....uhh...duh...um...really.

 

[ThisIsMe]

My observation is that happens when farmers complain about others getting subsidies.

Which is not seldom.

as I said previously, farmers dont like subsidies but they have to take them. They would rather make their money on the open market but if other farmers in the area take government money, it puts you at a disadvantage if you dont take it.

 

[cnm]

Great. Argentina's been an economic basket case since Peron took over decades ago and emptied its coffers.

I'm sure it appreciated Chump tossing some spare change in the hat. That is probably enough to replace the export taxes on Argentina's soy trade with China.

 

[Meathead]

Because it makes it very hard for US farmers to export beef as the southern countries the US imports from have poor tracking mechanisms, so US beef isn't accepted as a general thing in other countries' imports because it can not be verified as to origin.

HTH.

Do it again in English that makes sense to native speakers.

 

[cnm]

as I said previously, farmers dont like subsidies but they have to take them. They would rather make their money on the open market but if other farmers in the area take government money, it puts you at a disadvantage if you dont take it.

No, not other farmers.

Others.

 

[cnm]

Do it again in English that makes sense to native speakers.

Sorry, takes a little understanding of international trade standards and trade in ag goods in particular for it to make sense.

You're not an expert, never exported ag/hort product?

Milk products from NZ can be DNA traced back to a cow. The US has crap tracking standards, in general their beef is not accepted for export because in general it can't be guaranteed to be US origin.

You know, standards.

 

[dudmuck]

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/bessent-vows-that-us-wont-lose-taxpayer-money-aiding-argentina-2025-10-26/

As usual Dems are lying their asses off.

 

[Nostra]

Why do all the board Dimwingers want to keep beef prices too high for poor folks?

I guess they are on board with Schumer trying to starve Americans.

 

[ThisIsMe]

No, not other farmers.

Others.

Huh?

 

[cnm]

I have? Immigrant labor has been picking our crops for....hundreds of years. Ive not complained about the cost of produce, what I have complained about are all the recalls and bacteria borne produce coming from Mexico. Seems like every time we turn around were having a new warning issued about contaminated produce.

Also, are you saying you are supporting slave wages for these immigrants picking our vegetables?

The lack of complaint was the point, as are the current complaints as prices rise because that labour is not there to be exploited.

I have nothing but disdain for the American concept of society as a feeding frenzy.

 

[cnm]

Why do all the board Dimwingers want to keep beef prices too high for poor folks?

I guess they are on board with Schumer trying to starve Americans.

I thought they were laughing at Chump's centrally planned command un-economy.

 

[ThisIsMe]

The lack of complaint was the point, as are the current complaints as prices rise because that labour is not there to be exploited.

I have nothing but disdain for the American concept of society as a feeding frenzy.

Prices are going up not because of labor but because of inflation and tariffs. As far as im aware, immigrants are still picking our crops

 

[Zincwarrior]

Prices are going up not because of labor but because of inflation and tariffs. As far as im aware, immigrants are still picking out crops

Inflation will be 3.5% next month.

 

[cnm]

Prices are going up not because of labor but because of inflation and tariffs. As far as im aware, immigrants are still picking out crops

I'm aware you're not aware of the farmers' complaints of labour shortages and its contribution to inflation. I expected nothing less. It's part of the lip service MAGAts pay to ag workers.

The Unpicked Truth: Why U.S. Farmers Can't Find Workers for America's Harvest​

 

[ThisIsMe]

I'm aware you're not aware of the farmers' complaints of labour shortages. I expected nothing less. It's part of the lip service MAGAts pay to ag workers.

The Unpicked Truth: Why U.S. Farmers Can't Find Workers for America's Harvest​

Americans dont want low wage and no benefit jobs, thats understandable. That doesnt mean we should rely on illegal immigration to fill the void. We can issue any number of work visas.

Despite the ever growing number of illegals in the country, we keep saying that illegals will do the jobs Americans wont do, except, apparently, they aren't, because despite the 20 million+ illegals, we keep using the same phrase.

 

[Rawley]

Instead of American ones that are suffering from his ill advised trade war.

Promising to import Argentine beef to undercut the American farmers prices and profits.

Make Argentina Great Again!!

And when asked about it he scolds the reporter instead of answering.

Trump's Argentina beef import plan will harm U.S. ranchers, industry warns

Depleted U.S. cattle herd counts and strong consumer demand for beef have helped drive supermarket beef prices to new highs this year.

www.nbcnews.com

Trump Scolds ‘Young Lady’ Reporter for Asking Him Why Struggling Farmers Should Support Argentina Bailout

Trump had just confirmed plans to buy beef from Argentina which he argued would curb soaring U.S. meat prices.

www.yahoo.com

How much Argentinian beef did Trump buy today Creepy?

 

[cnm]

Americans dont want low wage and no benefit jobs, thats understandable. That doesnt mean we should rely on illegal immigration to fill the void. We can issue any number of work visas.

Despite the ever growing number of illegals in the country, we keep saying that illegals will do the jobs Americans wont do, except, apparently, they aren't, because despite the 20 million+ illegals, we keep using the same phrase.

I cannot parse that post.