Trump and the Religious Right -What is going on?

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We know that Donald J. Trump is not a particularly religious person, despite his waving the bible from a podium and proclaiming that it is his favorite book. He has not exactly exemplified the values and lifestyle that true Christians aspire to.

But we also know that he successfully courted the religious right, the fundamentalist evangelicals, in order to get nominated and elected. We also know that while they distrust him, they saw him as the better alternative-as the candidate who would do their bidding and it appears that they were correct. Case in point:

What Trump’s Education Appointment Tells Us About the Religious Right’s Influence
On Wednesday (November 23) President-elect Donald Trump announced Betsy DeVos as his pick for Secretary of Education. DeVos is a billionaire conservative activist whose name is well known among the higher echelons of the religious right. Her family has contributed tens of thousands of dollars to the Michigan Family Forum (a state affiliate of the Christian fundamentalist organization Focus on the Family) and the Family the Research Council, which has been designated a “hate group” by the Southern Poverty Law Center.

In addition:

In 1998 she founded the American Education Reform Foundation which was later renamed the American Federation for Children (AFC). The AFC is an advocacy organization whose stated purpose is to “empower parents, particularly those in low-income families, to choose the education they determine is best for their children.” Unfortunately, DeVos has used the AFC to push a crucial component of the religious right’s agenda: securing taxpayer dollars for private religious schools. AFC advocates for voucher programs that divert taxpayer money from public schools to private religious schools.

Secular Values Voter

The question is- is he an unwitting patsy, or is there something more nefarious going on? Lets take a closer look.

What Did Trump Promise the Religious Right?

Amidst all the Trump-related outrage, there is at least one question that I don't think has received nearly enough attention: What did Trump offer evangelical fundamentalist Christians in exchange for their support, and what will it mean for the rest of us if he delivers on it? We know from exit polls and other surveys conducted since the election that evangelical fundamentalist Christians turned out to vote for Trump in large numbers. We also know that this happened in spite of his behavior. While I have no doubt that some would have turned out to vote for anyone who was not Clinton, the massive support Trump received from fundamentalist Christians does make me wonder what he offered them and whether he intends to deliver it. Read more: What Did Trump Promise the Religious Right? | Atheist Revolution

There is at least one prominent conservative Christian who has expressed a degree of incredulity over what he is seeing:

Even Richard Land Is Shocked By How Much Influence The Religious Right Is Having In Shaping Trump’s Administration

Last month, it was reported that President-elect Donald Trump’s transition team was giving Religious Right activists, especially the members of his presidential campaign’s evangelical advisory board, unprecedented input in shaping his administration.

Earlier this week, one of the members of that board, Richard Land of the Southern Evangelical Seminary, appeared on the “Point of View” radio program, where he told host Kerby Anderson that he has been shocked by how much influence he and other Religious Right activists have had over the make-up of Trump’s administration.

Even Richard Land Is Shocked By How Much Influence The Religious Right Is Having In Shaping Trump’s Administration | Right Wing Watch

So who is Richard Land? A moderate ? A liberal Christian? Not hardly. He is in fact a well know right wing culture warrior Richard Land

Land went on to say in the above piece:

Some of my conservative friends and I, we have been pinching ourselves, are we hallucinating or is this actually happening?” Land said. “I know a good number of people on the transition team and I can tell you right now, about half of them, Kerby, think I’m liberal. I mean, these are very conservative people.”

Land, a longtime activist and former Southern Baptist Convention official, said that he has “been solicited five times for personnel recommendations” by the Trump administration, which is something that never happened under any previous Republican president. As such, Land said, “this administration is going to have more conservative Christians, Catholic and evangelical, in it than any administration that I’ve been associated with or had contact with, and I’ve been doing this since Reagan.”

The most disconcerting part of this is the type of appointees to the federal courts that Trump is likely to make. It appears that our secular government and society- the very concept of the separation of church and state is now at grave risk!!

There must be an after action debrief that showed the bible thumpers mostly all voted for Trump.

So now he needs to make them feel good about it.

Plus its never too late to get ready for the 2020 elections.

Trump has said he is pro choice however. That is going to be a problem for the religious far right. They don't want any more unborn babies killt.

Where Does Donald Trump Stand On Access To Abortion?

Who really knows. He has said everything from claiming to be pro choice to saying that there should be criminal penalties for women who seek abortion. It doesn't what he believes- if anything. What matters is what the people who he appoints to the courts and key positions in the administration believe, and I think that we know what that is.

I can only go by what he said. Time will tell. What exactly are reproductive rights? Why don't you just call it what it is?

 

[Mudda]

We know that Donald J. Trump is not a particularly religious person, despite his waving the bible from a podium and proclaiming that it is his favorite book. He has not exactly exemplified the values and lifestyle that true Christians aspire to.

But we also know that he successfully courted the religious right, the fundamentalist evangelicals, in order to get nominated and elected. We also know that while they distrust him, they saw him as the better alternative-as the candidate who would do their bidding and it appears that they were correct. Case in point:

What Trump’s Education Appointment Tells Us About the Religious Right’s Influence
On Wednesday (November 23) President-elect Donald Trump announced Betsy DeVos as his pick for Secretary of Education. DeVos is a billionaire conservative activist whose name is well known among the higher echelons of the religious right. Her family has contributed tens of thousands of dollars to the Michigan Family Forum (a state affiliate of the Christian fundamentalist organization Focus on the Family) and the Family the Research Council, which has been designated a “hate group” by the Southern Poverty Law Center.

In addition:

In 1998 she founded the American Education Reform Foundation which was later renamed the American Federation for Children (AFC). The AFC is an advocacy organization whose stated purpose is to “empower parents, particularly those in low-income families, to choose the education they determine is best for their children.” Unfortunately, DeVos has used the AFC to push a crucial component of the religious right’s agenda: securing taxpayer dollars for private religious schools. AFC advocates for voucher programs that divert taxpayer money from public schools to private religious schools.

Secular Values Voter

The question is- is he an unwitting patsy, or is there something more nefarious going on? Lets take a closer look.

What Did Trump Promise the Religious Right?

Amidst all the Trump-related outrage, there is at least one question that I don't think has received nearly enough attention: What did Trump offer evangelical fundamentalist Christians in exchange for their support, and what will it mean for the rest of us if he delivers on it? We know from exit polls and other surveys conducted since the election that evangelical fundamentalist Christians turned out to vote for Trump in large numbers. We also know that this happened in spite of his behavior. While I have no doubt that some would have turned out to vote for anyone who was not Clinton, the massive support Trump received from fundamentalist Christians does make me wonder what he offered them and whether he intends to deliver it. Read more: What Did Trump Promise the Religious Right? | Atheist Revolution

There is at least one prominent conservative Christian who has expressed a degree of incredulity over what he is seeing:

Even Richard Land Is Shocked By How Much Influence The Religious Right Is Having In Shaping Trump’s Administration

Last month, it was reported that President-elect Donald Trump’s transition team was giving Religious Right activists, especially the members of his presidential campaign’s evangelical advisory board, unprecedented input in shaping his administration.

Earlier this week, one of the members of that board, Richard Land of the Southern Evangelical Seminary, appeared on the “Point of View” radio program, where he told host Kerby Anderson that he has been shocked by how much influence he and other Religious Right activists have had over the make-up of Trump’s administration.

Even Richard Land Is Shocked By How Much Influence The Religious Right Is Having In Shaping Trump’s Administration | Right Wing Watch

So who is Richard Land? A moderate ? A liberal Christian? Not hardly. He is in fact a well know right wing culture warrior Richard Land

Land went on to say in the above piece:

Some of my conservative friends and I, we have been pinching ourselves, are we hallucinating or is this actually happening?” Land said. “I know a good number of people on the transition team and I can tell you right now, about half of them, Kerby, think I’m liberal. I mean, these are very conservative people.”

Land, a longtime activist and former Southern Baptist Convention official, said that he has “been solicited five times for personnel recommendations” by the Trump administration, which is something that never happened under any previous Republican president. As such, Land said, “this administration is going to have more conservative Christians, Catholic and evangelical, in it than any administration that I’ve been associated with or had contact with, and I’ve been doing this since Reagan.”

The most disconcerting part of this is the type of appointees to the federal courts that Trump is likely to make. It appears that our secular government and society- the very concept of the separation of church and state is now at grave risk!!

There must be an after action debrief that showed the bible thumpers mostly all voted for Trump.

So now he needs to make them feel good about it.

Plus its never too late to get ready for the 2020 elections.

Trump has said he is pro choice however. That is going to be a problem for the religious far right. They don't want any more unborn babies killt.

Where Does Donald Trump Stand On Access To Abortion?

Who really knows. He has said everything from claiming to be pro choice to saying that there should be criminal penalties for women who seek abortion. It doesn't what he believes- if anything. What matters is what the people who he appoints to the courts and key positions in the administration believe, and I think that we know what that is.

I can only go by what he said. Time will tell. What exactly are reproductive rights? Why don't you just call it what it is?

He did, "reproductive rights" is spot on.

 

[Divine Wind]

Who really knows. He has said everything from claiming to be pro choice to saying that there should be criminal penalties for women who seek abortion. It doesn't what he believes- if anything. What matters is what the people who he appoints to the courts and key positions in the administration believe, and I think that we know what that is.

Many Americans will find out just like they found out with every other President: Being President doesn't make one a King. A President can only sign bills presented by Congress. President Trump can't repeal Obamacare, overturn Roe vs. Wade or even go to war without proper legislation from Congress.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

We know that Donald J. Trump is not a particularly religious person, despite his waving the bible from a podium and proclaiming that it is his favorite book. He has not exactly exemplified the values and lifestyle that true Christians aspire to.

But we also know that he successfully courted the religious right, the fundamentalist evangelicals, in order to get nominated and elected. We also know that while they distrust him, they saw him as the better alternative-as the candidate who would do their bidding and it appears that they were correct. Case in point:

What Trump’s Education Appointment Tells Us About the Religious Right’s Influence
On Wednesday (November 23) President-elect Donald Trump announced Betsy DeVos as his pick for Secretary of Education. DeVos is a billionaire conservative activist whose name is well known among the higher echelons of the religious right. Her family has contributed tens of thousands of dollars to the Michigan Family Forum (a state affiliate of the Christian fundamentalist organization Focus on the Family) and the Family the Research Council, which has been designated a “hate group” by the Southern Poverty Law Center.

In addition:

In 1998 she founded the American Education Reform Foundation which was later renamed the American Federation for Children (AFC). The AFC is an advocacy organization whose stated purpose is to “empower parents, particularly those in low-income families, to choose the education they determine is best for their children.” Unfortunately, DeVos has used the AFC to push a crucial component of the religious right’s agenda: securing taxpayer dollars for private religious schools. AFC advocates for voucher programs that divert taxpayer money from public schools to private religious schools.

Secular Values Voter

The question is- is he an unwitting patsy, or is there something more nefarious going on? Lets take a closer look.

What Did Trump Promise the Religious Right?

Amidst all the Trump-related outrage, there is at least one question that I don't think has received nearly enough attention: What did Trump offer evangelical fundamentalist Christians in exchange for their support, and what will it mean for the rest of us if he delivers on it? We know from exit polls and other surveys conducted since the election that evangelical fundamentalist Christians turned out to vote for Trump in large numbers. We also know that this happened in spite of his behavior. While I have no doubt that some would have turned out to vote for anyone who was not Clinton, the massive support Trump received from fundamentalist Christians does make me wonder what he offered them and whether he intends to deliver it. Read more: What Did Trump Promise the Religious Right? | Atheist Revolution

There is at least one prominent conservative Christian who has expressed a degree of incredulity over what he is seeing:

Even Richard Land Is Shocked By How Much Influence The Religious Right Is Having In Shaping Trump’s Administration

Last month, it was reported that President-elect Donald Trump’s transition team was giving Religious Right activists, especially the members of his presidential campaign’s evangelical advisory board, unprecedented input in shaping his administration.

Earlier this week, one of the members of that board, Richard Land of the Southern Evangelical Seminary, appeared on the “Point of View” radio program, where he told host Kerby Anderson that he has been shocked by how much influence he and other Religious Right activists have had over the make-up of Trump’s administration.

Even Richard Land Is Shocked By How Much Influence The Religious Right Is Having In Shaping Trump’s Administration | Right Wing Watch

So who is Richard Land? A moderate ? A liberal Christian? Not hardly. He is in fact a well know right wing culture warrior Richard Land

Land went on to say in the above piece:

Some of my conservative friends and I, we have been pinching ourselves, are we hallucinating or is this actually happening?” Land said. “I know a good number of people on the transition team and I can tell you right now, about half of them, Kerby, think I’m liberal. I mean, these are very conservative people.”

Land, a longtime activist and former Southern Baptist Convention official, said that he has “been solicited five times for personnel recommendations” by the Trump administration, which is something that never happened under any previous Republican president. As such, Land said, “this administration is going to have more conservative Christians, Catholic and evangelical, in it than any administration that I’ve been associated with or had contact with, and I’ve been doing this since Reagan.”

The most disconcerting part of this is the type of appointees to the federal courts that Trump is likely to make. It appears that our secular government and society- the very concept of the separation of church and state is now at grave risk!!

There must be an after action debrief that showed the bible thumpers mostly all voted for Trump.

So now he needs to make them feel good about it.

Plus its never too late to get ready for the 2020 elections.

Trump has said he is pro choice however. That is going to be a problem for the religious far right. They don't want any more unborn babies killt.

Where Does Donald Trump Stand On Access To Abortion?

Who really knows. He has said everything from claiming to be pro choice to saying that there should be criminal penalties for women who seek abortion. It doesn't what he believes- if anything. What matters is what the people who he appoints to the courts and key positions in the administration believe, and I think that we know what that is.

I can only go by what he said. Time will tell. What exactly are reproductive rights? Why don't you just call it what it is?

Reproductive rights encompasses a women's right to chose to terminate a pregnancy, birth control, access to heath care services such as cervical cancer screening though organizations such as planned parenthood, right to privacy. There . Happy now?

 

[Divine Wind]

Reproductive rights encompasses a women's right to chose to terminate a pregnancy, birth control, access to heath care services such as cervical cancer screening though organizations such as planned parenthood, right to privacy. There . Happy now?

I support all of these things. They should be provided at cost, not free. Low cost, not inflated cost. I'm against the "defunding" of Planned Parenthood. The far Right has targeted it as being "government abortion" to justify eliminating PP, but the fact remains abortion is only about 3% of services provided.

Unfortunately, like when the Obama administration moved into the WH, every new administration is expected to produce immediate results. Also like the Obama administration, oftentimes those "immediate results" aren't what the nation needs most. In the case of the Obama administration they focused on Obamacare instead of the economy. In the case of this administration they tried first with the Ethics committee and now PP. WTF? We're still having economic problems among the Middle Class. There's a reason why so many blue-collar white males voted for Trump and it wasn't over Ethics or PP. The Republicans can easily fuck this up and pay the price in two years.


Planned Parenthood’s Services
Abortions accounted for 3 percent of the nearly 10.6 million total services provided by Planned Parenthood clinics in 2013, according to its annual report.

Some services it provided in addition to abortions were:

• 4.5 million tests and treatment for sexually transmitted infections
• 3.6 million contraception related services
• 935,573 cancer screenings including breast exams and Pap tests
• 1.1 million pregnancy tests and prenatal services

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Who really knows. He has said everything from claiming to be pro choice to saying that there should be criminal penalties for women who seek abortion. It doesn't what he believes- if anything. What matters is what the people who he appoints to the courts and key positions in the administration believe, and I think that we know what that is.

Many Americans will find out just like they found out with every other President: Being President doesn't make one a King. A President can only sign bills presented by Congress. President Trump can't repeal Obamacare, overturn Roe vs. Wade or even go to war without proper legislation from Congress.

Congress can't overturn Roe v Wade either, but they, along with Trump can do a lot to turn back the clock on civil liberties, health care and LGBT rights among other things

 

[Divine Wind]

Congress can't overturn Roe v Wade either, but they, along with Trump can do a lot to turn back the clock on civil liberties, health care and LGBT rights among other things

Correct, maybe. Running back legislation is not the same as time travel. Do you think they can run back the clock on American attitudes? Popular opinion?

Are you really so opinionated and authoritarian that you believe the same as others on this forum that Americans are just "Sheeple" who will obediently do as told?

Times change and politicians who don't roll with it get run over.

 

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We know that Donald J. Trump is not a particularly religious person, despite his waving the bible from a podium and proclaiming that it is his favorite book. He has not exactly exemplified the values and lifestyle that true Christians aspire to.

But we also know that he successfully courted the religious right, the fundamentalist evangelicals, in order to get nominated and elected. We also know that while they distrust him, they saw him as the better alternative-as the candidate who would do their bidding and it appears that they were correct. Case in point:

In addition:
The question is- is he an unwitting patsy, or is there something more nefarious going on? Lets take a closer look.

There is at least one prominent conservative Christian who has expressed a degree of incredulity over what he is seeing:

Even Richard Land Is Shocked By How Much Influence The Religious Right Is Having In Shaping Trump’s Administration

So who is Richard Land? A moderate ? A liberal Christian? Not hardly. He is in fact a well know right wing culture warrior Richard Land

Land went on to say in the above piece:

The most disconcerting part of this is the type of appointees to the federal courts that Trump is likely to make. It appears that our secular government and society- the very concept of the separation of church and state is now at grave risk!!

There must be an after action debrief that showed the bible thumpers mostly all voted for Trump.

So now he needs to make them feel good about it.

Plus its never too late to get ready for the 2020 elections.

Trump has said he is pro choice however. That is going to be a problem for the religious far right. They don't want any more unborn babies killt.

Where Does Donald Trump Stand On Access To Abortion?

Who really knows. He has said everything from claiming to be pro choice to saying that there should be criminal penalties for women who seek abortion. It doesn't what he believes- if anything. What matters is what the people who he appoints to the courts and key positions in the administration believe, and I think that we know what that is.

I can only go by what he said. Time will tell. What exactly are reproductive rights? Why don't you just call it what it is?

Reproductive rights encompasses a women's right to chose to terminate a pregnancy, birth control, access to heath care services such as cervical cancer screening though organizations such as planned parenthood, right to privacy. There . Happy now?

Oh, because I thought you were just talking about abortion. Yes, I'm happy. Thanks.

 

[ding]

We know that Donald J. Trump is not a particularly religious person, despite his waving the bible from a podium and proclaiming that it is his favorite book. He has not exactly exemplified the values and lifestyle that true Christians aspire to.

But we also know that he successfully courted the religious right, the fundamentalist evangelicals, in order to get nominated and elected. We also know that while they distrust him, they saw him as the better alternative-as the candidate who would do their bidding and it appears that they were correct. Case in point:

In addition:
The question is- is he an unwitting patsy, or is there something more nefarious going on? Lets take a closer look.

There is at least one prominent conservative Christian who has expressed a degree of incredulity over what he is seeing:

Even Richard Land Is Shocked By How Much Influence The Religious Right Is Having In Shaping Trump’s Administration

So who is Richard Land? A moderate ? A liberal Christian? Not hardly. He is in fact a well know right wing culture warrior Richard Land

Land went on to say in the above piece:

The most disconcerting part of this is the type of appointees to the federal courts that Trump is likely to make. It appears that our secular government and society- the very concept of the separation of church and state is now at grave risk!!

There must be an after action debrief that showed the bible thumpers mostly all voted for Trump.

So now he needs to make them feel good about it.

Plus its never too late to get ready for the 2020 elections.

Trump has said he is pro choice however. That is going to be a problem for the religious far right. They don't want any more unborn babies killt.

Where Does Donald Trump Stand On Access To Abortion?

Who really knows. He has said everything from claiming to be pro choice to saying that there should be criminal penalties for women who seek abortion. It doesn't what he believes- if anything. What matters is what the people who he appoints to the courts and key positions in the administration believe, and I think that we know what that is.

I can only go by what he said. Time will tell. What exactly are reproductive rights? Why don't you just call it what it is?

He did, "reproductive rights" is spot on.

Reproductive rights to me sounds like needing a permit for a kid.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

There must be an after action debrief that showed the bible thumpers mostly all voted for Trump.

So now he needs to make them feel good about it.

Plus its never too late to get ready for the 2020 elections.

Trump has said he is pro choice however. That is going to be a problem for the religious far right. They don't want any more unborn babies killt.

Where Does Donald Trump Stand On Access To Abortion?

Who really knows. He has said everything from claiming to be pro choice to saying that there should be criminal penalties for women who seek abortion. It doesn't what he believes- if anything. What matters is what the people who he appoints to the courts and key positions in the administration believe, and I think that we know what that is.

I can only go by what he said. Time will tell. What exactly are reproductive rights? Why don't you just call it what it is?

He did, "reproductive rights" is spot on.

Reproductive rights to me sounds like needing a permit for a kid.

You need to actually THINK about that


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Where Does Donald Trump Stand On Access To Abortion?

Who really knows. He has said everything from claiming to be pro choice to saying that there should be criminal penalties for women who seek abortion. It doesn't what he believes- if anything. What matters is what the people who he appoints to the courts and key positions in the administration believe, and I think that we know what that is.

I can only go by what he said. Time will tell. What exactly are reproductive rights? Why don't you just call it what it is?

He did, "reproductive rights" is spot on.

Reproductive rights to me sounds like needing a permit for a kid.

You need to actually THINK about that


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Maybe I read too much Orwell, but you can never be too sure about those overly aggressive progressive types.

 

[Mudda]

There must be an after action debrief that showed the bible thumpers mostly all voted for Trump.

So now he needs to make them feel good about it.

Plus its never too late to get ready for the 2020 elections.

Trump has said he is pro choice however. That is going to be a problem for the religious far right. They don't want any more unborn babies killt.

Where Does Donald Trump Stand On Access To Abortion?

Who really knows. He has said everything from claiming to be pro choice to saying that there should be criminal penalties for women who seek abortion. It doesn't what he believes- if anything. What matters is what the people who he appoints to the courts and key positions in the administration believe, and I think that we know what that is.

I can only go by what he said. Time will tell. What exactly are reproductive rights? Why don't you just call it what it is?

He did, "reproductive rights" is spot on.

Reproductive rights to me sounds like needing a permit for a kid.

It's not, now you know. Always glad to help.

 

[BULLDOG]

We know that Donald J. Trump is not a particularly religious person, despite his waving the bible from a podium and proclaiming that it is his favorite book. He has not exactly exemplified the values and lifestyle that true Christians aspire to.

But we also know that he successfully courted the religious right, the fundamentalist evangelicals, in order to get nominated and elected. We also know that while they distrust him, they saw him as the better alternative-as the candidate who would do their bidding and it appears that they were correct. Case in point:

What Trump’s Education Appointment Tells Us About the Religious Right’s Influence
On Wednesday (November 23) President-elect Donald Trump announced Betsy DeVos as his pick for Secretary of Education. DeVos is a billionaire conservative activist whose name is well known among the higher echelons of the religious right. Her family has contributed tens of thousands of dollars to the Michigan Family Forum (a state affiliate of the Christian fundamentalist organization Focus on the Family) and the Family the Research Council, which has been designated a “hate group” by the Southern Poverty Law Center.

In addition:

In 1998 she founded the American Education Reform Foundation which was later renamed the American Federation for Children (AFC). The AFC is an advocacy organization whose stated purpose is to “empower parents, particularly those in low-income families, to choose the education they determine is best for their children.” Unfortunately, DeVos has used the AFC to push a crucial component of the religious right’s agenda: securing taxpayer dollars for private religious schools. AFC advocates for voucher programs that divert taxpayer money from public schools to private religious schools.

Secular Values Voter

The question is- is he an unwitting patsy, or is there something more nefarious going on? Lets take a closer look.

What Did Trump Promise the Religious Right?

Amidst all the Trump-related outrage, there is at least one question that I don't think has received nearly enough attention: What did Trump offer evangelical fundamentalist Christians in exchange for their support, and what will it mean for the rest of us if he delivers on it? We know from exit polls and other surveys conducted since the election that evangelical fundamentalist Christians turned out to vote for Trump in large numbers. We also know that this happened in spite of his behavior. While I have no doubt that some would have turned out to vote for anyone who was not Clinton, the massive support Trump received from fundamentalist Christians does make me wonder what he offered them and whether he intends to deliver it. Read more: What Did Trump Promise the Religious Right? | Atheist Revolution

There is at least one prominent conservative Christian who has expressed a degree of incredulity over what he is seeing:

Even Richard Land Is Shocked By How Much Influence The Religious Right Is Having In Shaping Trump’s Administration

Last month, it was reported that President-elect Donald Trump’s transition team was giving Religious Right activists, especially the members of his presidential campaign’s evangelical advisory board, unprecedented input in shaping his administration.

Earlier this week, one of the members of that board, Richard Land of the Southern Evangelical Seminary, appeared on the “Point of View” radio program, where he told host Kerby Anderson that he has been shocked by how much influence he and other Religious Right activists have had over the make-up of Trump’s administration.

Even Richard Land Is Shocked By How Much Influence The Religious Right Is Having In Shaping Trump’s Administration | Right Wing Watch

So who is Richard Land? A moderate ? A liberal Christian? Not hardly. He is in fact a well know right wing culture warrior Richard Land

Land went on to say in the above piece:

Some of my conservative friends and I, we have been pinching ourselves, are we hallucinating or is this actually happening?” Land said. “I know a good number of people on the transition team and I can tell you right now, about half of them, Kerby, think I’m liberal. I mean, these are very conservative people.”

Land, a longtime activist and former Southern Baptist Convention official, said that he has “been solicited five times for personnel recommendations” by the Trump administration, which is something that never happened under any previous Republican president. As such, Land said, “this administration is going to have more conservative Christians, Catholic and evangelical, in it than any administration that I’ve been associated with or had contact with, and I’ve been doing this since Reagan.”

The most disconcerting part of this is the type of appointees to the federal courts that Trump is likely to make. It appears that our secular government and society- the very concept of the separation of church and state is now at grave risk!!

The bible thumpers care about only one thing. Abortion. All that other flowery warm snuggley stuff in the bible doesn't count for shit. They think Trump will ban it completely, and he isn't doing anything to make them think differently.

 

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Where Does Donald Trump Stand On Access To Abortion?

Who really knows. He has said everything from claiming to be pro choice to saying that there should be criminal penalties for women who seek abortion. It doesn't what he believes- if anything. What matters is what the people who he appoints to the courts and key positions in the administration believe, and I think that we know what that is.

I can only go by what he said. Time will tell. What exactly are reproductive rights? Why don't you just call it what it is?

He did, "reproductive rights" is spot on.

Reproductive rights to me sounds like needing a permit for a kid.

It's not, now you know. Always glad to help.

Thanks, you are a super swell gal.

 

[Moonglow]

You really expected the religious right to back, Clinton?

Only if she posed nude and in lesbian scenes...That's how they like it...Wowza!!

 

[Moonglow]

Who really knows. He has said everything from claiming to be pro choice to saying that there should be criminal penalties for women who seek abortion. It doesn't what he believes- if anything. What matters is what the people who he appoints to the courts and key positions in the administration believe, and I think that we know what that is.

I can only go by what he said. Time will tell. What exactly are reproductive rights? Why don't you just call it what it is?

He did, "reproductive rights" is spot on.

Reproductive rights to me sounds like needing a permit for a kid.

You need to actually THINK about that


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Maybe I read too much Orwell, but you can never be too sure about those overly aggressive progressive types.

Well they are well organized and have those tax free churches....

 

[Moonglow]

We know that Donald J. Trump is not a particularly religious person, despite his waving the bible from a podium and proclaiming that it is his favorite book. He has not exactly exemplified the values and lifestyle that true Christians aspire to.

But we also know that he successfully courted the religious right, the fundamentalist evangelicals, in order to get nominated and elected. We also know that while they distrust him, they saw him as the better alternative-as the candidate who would do their bidding and it appears that they were correct. Case in point:

What Trump’s Education Appointment Tells Us About the Religious Right’s Influence
On Wednesday (November 23) President-elect Donald Trump announced Betsy DeVos as his pick for Secretary of Education. DeVos is a billionaire conservative activist whose name is well known among the higher echelons of the religious right. Her family has contributed tens of thousands of dollars to the Michigan Family Forum (a state affiliate of the Christian fundamentalist organization Focus on the Family) and the Family the Research Council, which has been designated a “hate group” by the Southern Poverty Law Center.

In addition:

In 1998 she founded the American Education Reform Foundation which was later renamed the American Federation for Children (AFC). The AFC is an advocacy organization whose stated purpose is to “empower parents, particularly those in low-income families, to choose the education they determine is best for their children.” Unfortunately, DeVos has used the AFC to push a crucial component of the religious right’s agenda: securing taxpayer dollars for private religious schools. AFC advocates for voucher programs that divert taxpayer money from public schools to private religious schools.

Secular Values Voter

The question is- is he an unwitting patsy, or is there something more nefarious going on? Lets take a closer look.

What Did Trump Promise the Religious Right?

Amidst all the Trump-related outrage, there is at least one question that I don't think has received nearly enough attention: What did Trump offer evangelical fundamentalist Christians in exchange for their support, and what will it mean for the rest of us if he delivers on it? We know from exit polls and other surveys conducted since the election that evangelical fundamentalist Christians turned out to vote for Trump in large numbers. We also know that this happened in spite of his behavior. While I have no doubt that some would have turned out to vote for anyone who was not Clinton, the massive support Trump received from fundamentalist Christians does make me wonder what he offered them and whether he intends to deliver it. Read more: What Did Trump Promise the Religious Right? | Atheist Revolution

There is at least one prominent conservative Christian who has expressed a degree of incredulity over what he is seeing:

Even Richard Land Is Shocked By How Much Influence The Religious Right Is Having In Shaping Trump’s Administration

Last month, it was reported that President-elect Donald Trump’s transition team was giving Religious Right activists, especially the members of his presidential campaign’s evangelical advisory board, unprecedented input in shaping his administration.

Earlier this week, one of the members of that board, Richard Land of the Southern Evangelical Seminary, appeared on the “Point of View” radio program, where he told host Kerby Anderson that he has been shocked by how much influence he and other Religious Right activists have had over the make-up of Trump’s administration.

Even Richard Land Is Shocked By How Much Influence The Religious Right Is Having In Shaping Trump’s Administration | Right Wing Watch

So who is Richard Land? A moderate ? A liberal Christian? Not hardly. He is in fact a well know right wing culture warrior Richard Land

Land went on to say in the above piece:

Some of my conservative friends and I, we have been pinching ourselves, are we hallucinating or is this actually happening?” Land said. “I know a good number of people on the transition team and I can tell you right now, about half of them, Kerby, think I’m liberal. I mean, these are very conservative people.”

Land, a longtime activist and former Southern Baptist Convention official, said that he has “been solicited five times for personnel recommendations” by the Trump administration, which is something that never happened under any previous Republican president. As such, Land said, “this administration is going to have more conservative Christians, Catholic and evangelical, in it than any administration that I’ve been associated with or had contact with, and I’ve been doing this since Reagan.”

The most disconcerting part of this is the type of appointees to the federal courts that Trump is likely to make. It appears that our secular government and society- the very concept of the separation of church and state is now at grave risk!!

The bible thumpers care about only one thing. Abortion. All that other flowery warm snuggley stuff in the bible doesn't count for shit. They think Trump will ban it completely, and he isn't doing anything to make them think differently.

They care about huckstering your money...

 

[ding]

I can only go by what he said. Time will tell. What exactly are reproductive rights? Why don't you just call it what it is?

He did, "reproductive rights" is spot on.

Reproductive rights to me sounds like needing a permit for a kid.

You need to actually THINK about that


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Maybe I read too much Orwell, but you can never be too sure about those overly aggressive progressive types.

Well they are well organized and have those tax free churches....

And they have a 1st Amendment establishment clause loophole too.

 

[Moonglow]

He did, "reproductive rights" is spot on.

Reproductive rights to me sounds like needing a permit for a kid.

You need to actually THINK about that


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Maybe I read too much Orwell, but you can never be too sure about those overly aggressive progressive types.

Well they are well organized and have those tax free churches....

And they have a 1st Amendment establishment clause loophole too.

Isn't that grand, the Muslim's enjoy that...

 

[Correll]

We know that Donald J. Trump is not a particularly religious person, despite his waving the bible from a podium and proclaiming that it is his favorite book. He has not exactly exemplified the values and lifestyle that true Christians aspire to.

But we also know that he successfully courted the religious right, the fundamentalist evangelicals, in order to get nominated and elected. We also know that while they distrust him, they saw him as the better alternative-as the candidate who would do their bidding and it appears that they were correct. Case in point:

What Trump’s Education Appointment Tells Us About the Religious Right’s Influence
On Wednesday (November 23) President-elect Donald Trump announced Betsy DeVos as his pick for Secretary of Education. DeVos is a billionaire conservative activist whose name is well known among the higher echelons of the religious right. Her family has contributed tens of thousands of dollars to the Michigan Family Forum (a state affiliate of the Christian fundamentalist organization Focus on the Family) and the Family the Research Council, which has been designated a “hate group” by the Southern Poverty Law Center.

In addition:

In 1998 she founded the American Education Reform Foundation which was later renamed the American Federation for Children (AFC). The AFC is an advocacy organization whose stated purpose is to “empower parents, particularly those in low-income families, to choose the education they determine is best for their children.” Unfortunately, DeVos has used the AFC to push a crucial component of the religious right’s agenda: securing taxpayer dollars for private religious schools. AFC advocates for voucher programs that divert taxpayer money from public schools to private religious schools.

Secular Values Voter

The question is- is he an unwitting patsy, or is there something more nefarious going on? Lets take a closer look.

What Did Trump Promise the Religious Right?

Amidst all the Trump-related outrage, there is at least one question that I don't think has received nearly enough attention: What did Trump offer evangelical fundamentalist Christians in exchange for their support, and what will it mean for the rest of us if he delivers on it? We know from exit polls and other surveys conducted since the election that evangelical fundamentalist Christians turned out to vote for Trump in large numbers. We also know that this happened in spite of his behavior. While I have no doubt that some would have turned out to vote for anyone who was not Clinton, the massive support Trump received from fundamentalist Christians does make me wonder what he offered them and whether he intends to deliver it. Read more: What Did Trump Promise the Religious Right? | Atheist Revolution

There is at least one prominent conservative Christian who has expressed a degree of incredulity over what he is seeing:

Even Richard Land Is Shocked By How Much Influence The Religious Right Is Having In Shaping Trump’s Administration

Last month, it was reported that President-elect Donald Trump’s transition team was giving Religious Right activists, especially the members of his presidential campaign’s evangelical advisory board, unprecedented input in shaping his administration.

Earlier this week, one of the members of that board, Richard Land of the Southern Evangelical Seminary, appeared on the “Point of View” radio program, where he told host Kerby Anderson that he has been shocked by how much influence he and other Religious Right activists have had over the make-up of Trump’s administration.

Even Richard Land Is Shocked By How Much Influence The Religious Right Is Having In Shaping Trump’s Administration | Right Wing Watch

So who is Richard Land? A moderate ? A liberal Christian? Not hardly. He is in fact a well know right wing culture warrior Richard Land

Land went on to say in the above piece:

Some of my conservative friends and I, we have been pinching ourselves, are we hallucinating or is this actually happening?” Land said. “I know a good number of people on the transition team and I can tell you right now, about half of them, Kerby, think I’m liberal. I mean, these are very conservative people.”

Land, a longtime activist and former Southern Baptist Convention official, said that he has “been solicited five times for personnel recommendations” by the Trump administration, which is something that never happened under any previous Republican president. As such, Land said, “this administration is going to have more conservative Christians, Catholic and evangelical, in it than any administration that I’ve been associated with or had contact with, and I’ve been doing this since Reagan.”

The most disconcerting part of this is the type of appointees to the federal courts that Trump is likely to make. It appears that our secular government and society- the very concept of the separation of church and state is now at grave risk!!

Trump won, despite not being personally attractive to the religious right.

Despite not being their top choice, he courted the large and important faction of the party to get some of their support and to prevent them from becoming the back bone of a Anyone but Trump movement.


Now that he won, he is looking to maintain or expand on his support in that faction by giving them input.

What part of this is confusing to you?