Trump and the GOP's have no health care plan, like always

[Kondor3]

why is the gop the party of destruction?

Because the Democrats over-build and cannot sustain what they've built, so somebody's got to pull it down, and clear the ground.

Like the creatures from Stephen King's "The Langoliers", they are the Eaters of Other People's Mistakes.

 

[Geaux4it]

Obamacare is cost prohibitive and needs terminated for that reason. It is costly and inefficient

-Geaux

 

[strollingbones]

destruction and restoration are one thing......i see just destruction......but do tell me about the restoration.....that no candidate speaks of....

 

[Kondor3]

destruction and restoration are one thing......i see just destruction......but do tell me about the restoration.....that no candidate speaks of....

You operate from the flawed impression that the destruction of a failed thing requires replacing it with something else.

Sometimes, just pulling something down and clearing the ground is enough, with no replacement intended.

 

[Penelope]

they want to dismantle the ACA , allow ins to cross state lines, already does, have HSA's , we already do.

Don't be fooled , read about Blue Cross Blue Shield Association and United Healthcare Group and a few other giants. They gobble up smaller health ins companies like Pac man, and do whatever they want to the prices.

I don't think I heard one GOP talk about prescription prices. If they did, it was not a big deal for them as I listened to all debates.

Trump doesn't know jack about HI, and all those coming out to endorse him, is just because they will want favors.

Funny,I seem to remember Barry telling us we'd save $2500 a year on our healthcare insurance.
And yet you somehow believe that a couple of socialist are going to save you money?

My husband has had private ins for years, I know all about health ins believe me. Lucky for him, the ACA came along, as healthy as he is, he may have an accident or get dx with ca tomorrow, and we will have a safety net , instead of losing our home and everything else.
Most who do not have ins, make over 50 grand a year, but most likely under 80, and they just don't think they need ins. I am happy its mandatory now, everyone pays according to their incomes.

My private insurance was great.
And you cant tell me shit about insurance.
I was diagnosed with cancer and had a hip replacement in one year and it didnt cost me shit out of pocket.
That is good insurance. The crap Barry is peddling is a joke for twice the cost in premiums and a deductible that would break the very people you claim it would help.
Unless of course you're already sucking the government tit.

So your on Medicare and have a medigap policy, or who are you insured with?

I mean wow, no deduct or OOP max, we need to know your ins.

 

[Penelope]

why is the gop the party of destruction?

Because the Democrats over-build and cannot sustain what they've built, so somebody's got to pull it down, and clear the ground.

Like the creatures from Stephen King's "The Langoliers", they are the Eaters of Other People's Mistakes.

We spend way to much on war.

 

[Kondor3]

they want to dismantle the ACA , allow ins to cross state lines, already does, have HSA's , we already do.

Don't be fooled , read about Blue Cross Blue Shield Association and United Healthcare Group and a few other giants. They gobble up smaller health ins companies like Pac man, and do whatever they want to the prices.

I don't think I heard one GOP talk about prescription prices. If they did, it was not a big deal for them as I listened to all debates.

Trump doesn't know jack about HI, and all those coming out to endorse him, is just because they will want favors.

Funny,I seem to remember Barry telling us we'd save $2500 a year on our healthcare insurance.
And yet you somehow believe that a couple of socialist are going to save you money?

My husband has had private ins for years, I know all about health ins believe me. Lucky for him, the ACA came along, as healthy as he is, he may have an accident or get dx with ca tomorrow, and we will have a safety net , instead of losing our home and everything else.
Most who do not have ins, make over 50 grand a year, but most likely under 80, and they just don't think they need ins. I am happy its mandatory now, everyone pays according to their incomes.

My private insurance was great.
And you cant tell me shit about insurance.
I was diagnosed with cancer and had a hip replacement in one year and it didnt cost me shit out of pocket.
That is good insurance. The crap Barry is peddling is a joke for twice the cost in premiums and a deductible that would break the very people you claim it would help.
Unless of course you're already sucking the government tit.

So your on Medicare and have a medigap policy, or who are you insured with?

Are you confusing programs and policies which one pays into, with free or nearly-free healthcare?

 

[Kondor3]

why is the gop the party of destruction?

Because the Democrats over-build and cannot sustain what they've built, so somebody's got to pull it down, and clear the ground.

Like the creatures from Stephen King's "The Langoliers", they are the Eaters of Other People's Mistakes.

We spend way to much on war.

Yep.

And the Democrats have started or escalated or sustained some real doozies in their time...

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

they want to dismantle the ACA , allow ins to cross state lines, already does, have HSA's , we already do.

Don't be fooled , read about Blue Cross Blue Shield Association and United Healthcare Group and a few other giants. They gobble up smaller health ins companies like Pac man, and do whatever they want to the prices.

I don't think I heard one GOP talk about prescription prices. If they did, it was not a big deal for them as I listened to all debates.

Trump doesn't know jack about HI, and all those coming out to endorse him, is just because they will want favors.

Funny,I seem to remember Barry telling us we'd save $2500 a year on our healthcare insurance.
And yet you somehow believe that a couple of socialist are going to save you money?

My husband has had private ins for years, I know all about health ins believe me. Lucky for him, the ACA came along, as healthy as he is, he may have an accident or get dx with ca tomorrow, and we will have a safety net , instead of losing our home and everything else.
Most who do not have ins, make over 50 grand a year, but most likely under 80, and they just don't think they need ins. I am happy its mandatory now, everyone pays according to their incomes.

My private insurance was great.
And you cant tell me shit about insurance.
I was diagnosed with cancer and had a hip replacement in one year and it didnt cost me shit out of pocket.
That is good insurance. The crap Barry is peddling is a joke for twice the cost in premiums and a deductible that would break the very people you claim it would help.
Unless of course you're already sucking the government tit.

So your on Medicare and have a medigap policy, or who are you insured with?

Nope. BCBS with a medical savings plan that covers all deductibles and which I can also withdraw money from for whatever I want at the end of the year.
And the astounding part? We actually set this up all by ourselves with no government assistance. Shocking I know....

 

[Penelope]

they want to dismantle the ACA , allow ins to cross state lines, already does, have HSA's , we already do.

Don't be fooled , read about Blue Cross Blue Shield Association and United Healthcare Group and a few other giants. They gobble up smaller health ins companies like Pac man, and do whatever they want to the prices.

I don't think I heard one GOP talk about prescription prices. If they did, it was not a big deal for them as I listened to all debates.

Trump doesn't know jack about HI, and all those coming out to endorse him, is just because they will want favors.

Only 15% in a recent NPR poll report having benefit from ACA. It needs to go

-Geaux

Give us a link? 33 million last I read are on it. Its off to a great start.

Great start?

Who's paying for it?

Of those 33 million, how many are suffering from far higher premiums than they've paid in the past?

Of those 33 million, how many now have insurance that really doesn't pay for shit?

Of those 33 million, how many are subsidized, thereby imposing an increasingly crushing burden upon the taxpayers?

Great start, indeed.

Many as many didn't pay a dime, some went on Mommy and Daddy's ins, some went on expanded Medicaid in their state and the rest on the ACA where they are cost sharing premiums.

Do you realize ER's covered all who walked in their doors, ins or not?? At least now , if not on Medicaid, they have to pay something for their ins. No one on the ACA pays nothing, if they have that low of income, they are on Medicaid.

 

[JoeMoma]

The GOP's unwillingness to offer a real alternative to the ACA is one of the primary reasons that lousy bill is now law.

Any "health plan" that admits millions would have to use ER's for primary care is no "health plan" at all.
.

Is it the government's job to put forth a healthcare plan? Shouldn't people be responsible for providing for their own healthcare as they do with their other needs.

 

[Geaux4it]

The GOP's unwillingness to offer a real alternative to the ACA is one of the primary reasons that lousy bill is now law.

Any "health plan" that admits millions would have to use ER's for primary care is no "health plan" at all.
.

Is it the government's job to put forth a healthcare plan? Shouldn't people be responsible for providing for their own healthcare as they do with their other needs.

Some don't trust doctors, so now they pay a fine to avoid them

-Geaux

 

[Penelope]

wtf? isn't that ObamaCare the plan to save the whole country? now they are back to this crap. go take care of your OWN HEALTH care for crying out loud.

You take care of everyone without it, don't you guys understand, well I know you don't, but fee healthcare was available to everyone.

 

[Mac1958]

The GOP's unwillingness to offer a real alternative to the ACA is one of the primary reasons that lousy bill is now law.

Any "health plan" that admits millions would have to use ER's for primary care is no "health plan" at all.
.

Is it the government's job to put forth a healthcare plan? Shouldn't people be responsible for providing for their own healthcare as they do with their other needs.

Doesn't matter to me if it's the government's job. The Democrats MADE it the government's job, the populace believes it, the Republicans chose to punt.

I don't like paying higher premiums because I'm having to ALSO pay for the uninsured.

I don't like waiting in the ER with a family member because it's stuffed with people who can't afford coverage.

The GOP can punt on this, and we'll end up with single payer.
.

 

[JoeMoma]

The GOP's unwillingness to offer a real alternative to the ACA is one of the primary reasons that lousy bill is now law.

Any "health plan" that admits millions would have to use ER's for primary care is no "health plan" at all.
.

Is it the government's job to put forth a healthcare plan? Shouldn't people be responsible for providing for their own healthcare as they do with their other needs.

Doesn't matter to me if it's the government's job. The Democrats MADE it the government's job, the populace believes it, the Republicans chose to punt.

I don't like paying higher premiums because I'm having to ALSO pay for the uninsured.

I don't like waiting in the ER with a family member because it's stuffed with people who can't afford coverage.

The GOP can punt on this, and we'll end up with single payer.
.

As long as it remains the government's job, those problems of which you complain will remain.

 

[Mac1958]

The GOP's unwillingness to offer a real alternative to the ACA is one of the primary reasons that lousy bill is now law.

Any "health plan" that admits millions would have to use ER's for primary care is no "health plan" at all.
.

Is it the government's job to put forth a healthcare plan? Shouldn't people be responsible for providing for their own healthcare as they do with their other needs.

Doesn't matter to me if it's the government's job. The Democrats MADE it the government's job, the populace believes it, the Republicans chose to punt.

I don't like paying higher premiums because I'm having to ALSO pay for the uninsured.

I don't like waiting in the ER with a family member because it's stuffed with people who can't afford coverage.

The GOP can punt on this, and we'll end up with single payer.
.

As long as it remains the government's job, those problems of which you complain will remain.

Paying higher premiums for the uninsured happens because they can't afford free-market premiums. People go to the ER because they can't afford free-market premiums.
.

 

[JakeStarkey]

All this whining. Wait until you have HRC or DT in office with a Democratic senate. Single payer is coming folks.

 

[Seawytch]

The GOP's unwillingness to offer a real alternative to the ACA is one of the primary reasons that lousy bill is now law.

Any "health plan" that admits millions would have to use ER's for primary care is no "health plan" at all.
.

Is it the government's job to put forth a healthcare plan? Shouldn't people be responsible for providing for their own healthcare as they do with their other needs.

Doesn't matter to me if it's the government's job. The Democrats MADE it the government's job, the populace believes it, the Republicans chose to punt.

I don't like paying higher premiums because I'm having to ALSO pay for the uninsured.

I don't like waiting in the ER with a family member because it's stuffed with people who can't afford coverage.

The GOP can punt on this, and we'll end up with single payer.
.

Democrats made it the governments job? Really? Who put the burden on emergency rooms? Which President signed into law the requirement that emergency rooms treat everyone regardless of ability to pay?

 

[Mac1958]

The GOP's unwillingness to offer a real alternative to the ACA is one of the primary reasons that lousy bill is now law.

Any "health plan" that admits millions would have to use ER's for primary care is no "health plan" at all.
.

Is it the government's job to put forth a healthcare plan? Shouldn't people be responsible for providing for their own healthcare as they do with their other needs.

Doesn't matter to me if it's the government's job. The Democrats MADE it the government's job, the populace believes it, the Republicans chose to punt.

I don't like paying higher premiums because I'm having to ALSO pay for the uninsured.

I don't like waiting in the ER with a family member because it's stuffed with people who can't afford coverage.

The GOP can punt on this, and we'll end up with single payer.
.

Democrats made it the governments job? Really? Who put the burden on emergency rooms? Which President signed into law the requirement that emergency rooms treat everyone regardless of ability to pay?

Okay, then Democrats are NOT pushing for more government control of health care.


.

 

[Penelope]

they want to dismantle the ACA , allow ins to cross state lines, already does, have HSA's , we already do.

Don't be fooled , read about Blue Cross Blue Shield Association and United Healthcare Group and a few other giants. They gobble up smaller health ins companies like Pac man, and do whatever they want to the prices.

I don't think I heard one GOP talk about prescription prices. If they did, it was not a big deal for them as I listened to all debates.

Trump doesn't know jack about HI, and all those coming out to endorse him, is just because they will want favors.

Obama made deals with Big Pharm on day one when he became president. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/06/health/policy/06insure.html?_r=0

He's been conspiring with them to raise the cost of prescription drugs since the day he was sworn in. He destroyed the health care industry to the point where many cannot even afford to pay their premiums without subsidies. Instead of lowering costs, he helped raise costs, tripling the costs to the consumer. Scrapping the whole thing would be the best thing they could do. The government is screwing it up instead of fixing it.

House Investigates Obama Deal With Drug Companies

Not conspiring. Also the senate has blocked all bills to repeal the deal as a result the drug prices have soared.

they want to dismantle the ACA , allow ins to cross state lines, already does, have HSA's , we already do.

Don't be fooled , read about Blue Cross Blue Shield Association and United Healthcare Group and a few other giants. They gobble up smaller health ins companies like Pac man, and do whatever they want to the prices.

I don't think I heard one GOP talk about prescription prices. If they did, it was not a big deal for them as I listened to all debates.

Trump doesn't know jack about HI, and all those coming out to endorse him, is just because they will want favors.

Funny,I seem to remember Barry telling us we'd save $2500 a year on our healthcare insurance.
And yet you somehow believe that a couple of socialist are going to save you money?

My husband has had private ins for years, I know all about health ins believe me. Lucky for him, the ACA came along, as healthy as he is, he may have an accident or get dx with ca tomorrow, and we will have a safety net , instead of losing our home and everything else.
Most who do not have ins, make over 50 grand a year, but most likely under 80, and they just don't think they need ins. I am happy its mandatory now, everyone pays according to their incomes.

My private insurance was great.
And you cant tell me shit about insurance.
I was diagnosed with cancer and had a hip replacement in one year and it didnt cost me shit out of pocket.
That is good insurance. The crap Barry is peddling is a joke for twice the cost in premiums and a deductible that would break the very people you claim it would help.
Unless of course you're already sucking the government tit.

So your on Medicare and have a medigap policy, or who are you insured with?

Nope. BCBS with a medical savings plan that covers all deductibles and which I can also withdraw money from for whatever I want at the end of the year.
And the astounding part? We actually set this up all by ourselves with no government assistance. Shocking I know....

Who paid for your HSA's, Your employer? Sorry about your health problems, but try to find a different insurer now, call a few different companies not on the exchange, how many options do you have. Your stuck, my husband had BCBS for years, and their prices when up every year as he got older.