Trump: "A Tariff is a tax that doesn’t affect our country"

[Harpy Eagle]

And let's not forget that they are not kinds or queens.

Harris nor Trump will do anything if one of the houses is the hands of the opposition.

The GOP better be damn scared about that happening.

When this election is over (and if Trump loses) I never want to hear his name again.

Tariffs are one of the things that POTUS is basically a king/queen when it comes to them.

That is why people like me worry about Trump's promise if 100%+ tariffs.

 

[sealybobo]

As long as you and I are fighting, they get their way.

Both parties are bent only fighting.

We have a super wealthy class who will not let go of their wealth easily.

I say it’s you who needs to join the labor party.

So how did they win you over? God, guns or racism? What social wedge issues make you vote gop?

Remember, Kanye and kaitlyn Jenner are rich and vote gop

 

[sealybobo]

Tariffs are one of the things that POTUS is basically a king/queen when it comes to them.

That is why people like me worry about Trump's promise if 100%+ tariffs.

He hurt Michigan in 2019 when he started a trade war with China. Republicans told me I would need to take the hit when he cost me $. Did he win that trade war? Fuck no

 

[HikerGuy83]

I say it’s you who needs to join the labor party.

So how did they win you over? God, guns or racism? What social wedge issues make you vote gop?

Remember, Kanye and kaitlyn Jenner are rich and vote gop

If the labor party made any sense to me, I might join.

 

[sealybobo]

If the labor party made any sense to me, I might join.

You’re either labor or corporation class.

If you make under $100k you’re labor.

 

[HikerGuy83]

You’re either labor or corporation class.

If you make under $100k you’re labor.

So who is the Labor Party running for president.

 

[GWV5903]

Yes. When America was great 35% of us were unionized. Back then workers wouldn’t let employers hire illegals

35% was 50 years ago, and illegal workers have been in America well over a 100 years. We’re talking about what’s happening today, not 50 years ago. You are living in the past and not the present.

 

[sealybobo]

So who is the Labor Party running for president.

If you have to ask it’s RFK jr

 

[sealybobo]

35% was 50 years ago, and illegal workers have been in America well over a 100 years. We’re talking about what’s happening today, not 50 years ago. You are living in the past and not the present.
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Nah. They were never a problem until the 80s they stopped leaving at the end of fruit picking season

 

[eagle1462010]

When free trade opened up, every country in the world except one protected their vital industries. Only america did not because in manufacturing we had overpaid uneducated blue collar workers because they were in unions. Reagan started the war with unions but I noticed republicans especially attacked unions in the 2000s to make it easier as 1 million manufacturing jobs went to Mexico and China. Many people lost pensions when their companies (GM) went bankrupt.

Think about all those people who lost those good jobs in the 2000s, then the housing crash and Great Recession. Google economic despair white uneducated and see what’s happening to all those people today. Suicide, murder, fentynol, alcohol, and now trumps telling them he will bring those jobs back home but 1, we already have low unemployment and 2, what will those jobs pay now?

Unions got too greedy and forced them out

 

[GWV5903]

Nah. They were never a problem until the 80s they stopped leaving at the end of fruit picking season

Sorry but you’re wrong, illegal immigrants have impacted US labor as early as 1815. What you’re referring to is when it was news worthy, and in reality the migrant workers from our southern neighbors were here in the late 1800’s.

You’re missing the point, our Asian competitors were because of Unions and it sounds like you were part of the UAW. You’re in denial and that’s okay, but you cannot change the facts.

 

[sealybobo]

Unions got too greedy and forced them out

See, anti labor. You, Trump, Republicans You ran the very uneducated high paying blue collar jobs out now you want to bring them back.

 

[sealybobo]

Sorry but you’re wrong, illegal immigrants have impacted US labor as early as 1815. What you’re referring to is when it was news worthy, and in reality the migrant workers from our southern neighbors were here in the late 1800’s.

You’re missing the point, our Asian competitors were because of Unions and it sounds like you were part of the UAW. You’re in denial and that’s okay, but you cannot change the facts.

Yes, UAW demanded good pay for workers and that made corporations want to leave to China and Mexico. We shouldn't have let them. We should have tariff'ed them. Right? Isn't that what Trump says?

Trump Mercilessly Mocked Over Frighteningly False Tariff Claim

The former president described his proposal to impose tariffs on foreign-made products as a tax that "doesn't affect our country."

www.huffpost.com

Mark Cuban joined a number of critics who mocked Donald Trump on Saturday after the Republican presidential nominee’s false claim that imposing tariffs doesn’t “affect our country.”

The former president, in a meandering speech at a campaign rally, pledged to impose tariffs on foreign-made products from China and other countries in order to bring jobs “back home” in an effort to take in “billions and billions of dollars.”

“A tariff is a tax on a foreign country, that’s the way it is, whether you like it or not. A lot of people like to say, ‘Oh, it’s a tax on us.’ No, no, no,” Trump told the crowd at the rally in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania, on Saturday.
He later added, “It’s a tax on a country that’s ripping us off and stealing our jobs. And it’s a tax that doesn’t affect our country.”

Trump has previously pushed the false claim on tariffs despite multiple media outlets noting that American consumers and industries have bore much of the cost of Trump’s tariffs.
Several economists recently told Newsweek that his tariff proposal would raise prices for U.S. consumers and that such a plan would hurt American companies as well.

“Any importers want to explain to Trump how they deal with tariffs on say food or agricultural products ?” Marc Cuban tweeted

Trump’s remarks “simply economically illiterate.”

“No wonder he apparently had a bad record at Wharton,” Shrum wrote, referring to Trump’s alma mater, the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School of Finance.

They are making fun of Trump

Trump Mercilessly Mocked Over Frighteningly False Tariff Claim

The former president described his proposal to impose tariffs on foreign-made products as a tax that "doesn't affect our country."

www.huffpost.com

 

[sealybobo]

This is patently false. Either Trump doesn't understand basic economics or he's lying. No matter what he says, tariffs aren't paid by the other country. They're paid by you. In 2019, the Trump administration doled out billions in "free" money to farmers who could no longer sell their goods to China due to their retaliatory strike in buying American agriculture due to Trump's tariffs. I believe this is what MAGA calls "Socialism."

I told you guys Trump fucked me and Michigan in 2019 when he started his trade war with China, then LOST

Trump Mercilessly Mocked Over Frighteningly False Tariff Claim​

The former president described his proposal to impose tariffs on foreign-made products as a tax that "doesn't affect our country."

Trump has previously pushed the false claim on tariffs despite multiple media outlets noting that American consumers and industries have bore much of the cost of Trump’s tariffs.
Several economists recently told Newsweek that his tariff proposal would raise prices for U.S. consumers and that such a plan would hurt American companies as well.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Well, the federal government used to be funded entirely by tariffs and there was no income tax.

So tariffs do have some merit, especially in leveling national trade deficits.

Wrong.

Tariffs increase costs to consumers and do nothing to reduce the trade deficit.

“Trump's fixation on the trade deficit is not new. He spent much of the 2016 campaign and a significant amount of time during his four years in the White House complaining about the deficit, which he argues is evidence that foreign countries are somehow ripping off American businesses. (That's wrong, but let's not worry about that for now.)

In fact, there's significant evidence that Trump's tariffs actually added to America's trade deficit. That's because one of the consequences of higher tariffs is a reduction in exports, and fewer exports will make a trade deficit grow.”

Trump's tariffs didn't reduce the trade deficit. Why would they work now?

Donald Trump's latest argument for protectionism is undermined by the realities of his own trade policies.

reason.com

 

[Zincwarrior]

Well, the federal government used to be funded entirely by tariffs and there was no income tax.

So tariffs do have some merit, especially in leveling national trade deficits.

True this. Of course, back then we had a six ship Navy and a couple of thousand doods with muskets at most.

You are also correct in that tariffs are a time honored systems to impact trade, and favor domestic industry. Its definitely not used to lower inflation.

 

[task0778]

So tariffs do have some merit, especially in leveling national trade deficits.

I would say they have very little merit, the plus you get in additional federal revenue is offset by the minus you get when the other country(s) retaliate. A tariff makes things more expensive without a boost in actual productivity and that is inflationary. Maybe not a whole lot, it depends on the situation. But it ends up being in somebody's favor but also somebody else's expense. I haven't checked, but did Trump's tariffs actually do anything to the trade deficit? My guess is, no.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

This is patently false. Either Trump doesn't understand basic economics or he's lying. No matter what he says, tariffs aren't paid by the other country. They're paid by you. In 2019, the Trump administration doled out billions in "free" money to farmers who could no longer sell their goods to China due to their retaliatory strike in buying American agriculture due to Trump's tariffs. I believe this is what MAGA calls "Socialism."

I think he actually believes this.

 

[eagle1462010]

See, anti labor. You, Trump, Republicans You ran the very uneducated high paying blue collar jobs out now you want to bring them back.

Ive worked with Unions and they milk the living hell out of jobs. You have to be reasonable and they went TOO FAR STICKING IT TO THE MAN.

 

[eagle1462010]

I told you guys Trump fucked me and Michigan in 2019 when he started his trade war with China, then LOST

Trump Mercilessly Mocked Over Frighteningly False Tariff Claim​

The former president described his proposal to impose tariffs on foreign-made products as a tax that "doesn't affect our country."

Trump has previously pushed the false claim on tariffs despite multiple media outlets noting that American consumers and industries have bore much of the cost of Trump’s tariffs.
Several economists recently told Newsweek that his tariff proposal would raise prices for U.S. consumers and that such a plan would hurt American companies as well.

And Auti manufacturing went to Southern States to escape Union labor costs.

The Unions got to damn GREEDY.

WE IN THE SOUTH TOOK THOSE JOBS