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Transgender Is A Stalking Horse For The Normalization Of Pedophilia

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You haven't done anything of the sort. You just keep exposing yourselves as anti-science and basic human decency.
Anti-science? It is your ilk that think men can be women, and have babies?
 

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Not the way you are thinking. Not surprised someone with a degree is albino lesbian aboriginal 19th century basket weaving would have an issue with that.
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Dont play yourself Short Bus, there is zero chance a moron like yourself could explain the ways you imagine chemistry and biology are separate from physics.
Anti-science? It is your ilk that think men can be women, and have babies?
I think people born biologically female with a working female reproductive system but in the process of transitioning to a man can and do have babies. It's okay if you can't quite grasp that intellectually. It's a nuanced position. No one expects trailer park trash like you folk to understand.

I am a transgender man & I gave birth to a son - here's what I learned

Science doesn't have to scare you folks, but it's funny it does.
 

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I notice you like to bash on religion when you get the chance. Yes there are a few bad apples, and it is a shame. The difference is we (the right) speak out against these people. But you accept most of the leftist perversions, and try to make it normal.
I kill pedos.
 

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Dont play yourself Short Bus, there is zero chance a moron like yourself could explain the ways you imagine chemistry and biology are separate from physics.

I think people born biologically female with a working female reproductive system but in the process of transitioning to a man can and do have babies. It's okay if you can't quite grasp that intellectually. It's a nuanced position. No one expects trailer park trash like you folk to understand.

I am a transgender man & I gave birth to a son - here's what I learned

Science doesn't have to scare you folks, but it's funny it does.

No, she's a woman playing dress-up as a man.

My 25 years as an engineer probably matches up pretty well to whatever bullshit degree you have.
 

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No, she's a woman playing dress-up as a man.

My 25 years as an engineer probably matches up pretty well to whatever bullshit degree you have.
What does a degree have to do with how people want to live freely and you don't want them to do as such?
 

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What does a degree have to do with how people want to live freely and you don't want them to do as such?

If you read my responses to him this dolt kept referencing physics and time when talking about the impact of puberty blockers vs. the effect.
 

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No, she's a woman playing dress-up as a man.

My 25 years as an engineer probably matches up pretty well to whatever bullshit degree you have.
Your engineering degree doesn't make you an authority on biology. I see you punted on trying to explain what parts of chemistry and biology are separate from physics so even that engineering degree is in serious doubt. 😄
 

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Your engineering degree doesn't make you an authority on biology. I see you punted on trying to explain what parts of chemistry and biology are separate from physics so even that engineering degree is in serious doubt. 😄

my point is you referring to physics and time has nothing to do with the irreversible IMPACTS of taking puberty blockers during puberty.
 

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my point is you referring to physics and time has nothing to do with the irreversible IMPACTS of taking puberty blockers during puberty.
There are no irreversible impacts. That's the opinion of the medical community at large. I'm not sure if they've asked the engineering guild to weigh in on that but you'd know more about that I do. 😄
 

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There are no irreversible impacts. That's the opinion of the medical community at large. I'm not sure if they've asked the engineering guild to weigh in on that but you'd know more about that I do. 😄

They are lying. It's not like puberty will happen when the person is 16 or 18 and they decide to stop taking the blockers.
 

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Did they teach you that in engineering school? 😄

Common sense taught me.

They are trying to be slick about it by saying the EFFECTS are reversible, which is like saying aspirin stops working once it flushes out of your system. They gloss over that any IMPACT are not reversible.

If your wang or breasts don't grow when they are supposed to, and you take the blockers during this period, any growth doesn't "catch up" after you stop taking them. That doesn't even account for the other physical or mental changes that are supposed to happen during puberty.
 

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Common sense taught me.

They are trying to be slick about it by saying the EFFECTS are reversible, which is like saying aspirin stops working once it flushes out of your system. They gloss over that any IMPACT are not reversible.

If your wang or breasts don't grow when they are supposed to, and you take the blockers during this period, any growth doesn't "catch up" after you stop taking them. That doesn't even account for the other physical or mental changes that are supposed to happen during puberty.
A rational human being would understand that the knowledge medical professionals spend the better part of their 20s learning(usually), my uncle went to medical school in his 40s, isn't common knowledge. That's why you don't notice your friends and family pulling up to your house and asking you to diagnose their ailments.

The physical effects of hormone blockers are irreversible, it's the effects of hormone treatments which are not. It's important to note here that some portion of the population will naturally experience late onset puberty in their later teen years and that some portion of the population will experience early onset puberty, naturally. It's for these people why hormone blockers were developed in the first place, to delay the onset of puberty by young children who were experiencing puberty as early as 8 or 9. If you stop taking hormone blockers as a teenager the effects of regular puberty will continue and if they're 18 they are adults and it's really none of your business what they do with their bodies. It's also really none of your business what young boys and girls who are not your children do with their bodies on the advice of their doctors but for some reason you think that's an authority you should have.
 

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A rational human being would understand that the knowledge medical professionals spend the better part of their 20s learning(usually), my uncle went to medical school in his 40s, isn't common knowledge. That's why you don't notice your friends and family pulling up to your house and asking you to diagnose their ailments.

The physical effects of hormone blockers are irreversible, it's the effects of hormone treatments which are not. It's important to note here that some portion of the population will naturally experience late onset puberty in their later teen years and that some portion of the population will experience early onset puberty, naturally. It's for these people why hormone blockers were developed in the first place, to delay the onset of puberty by young children who were experiencing puberty as early as 8 or 9. If you stop taking hormone blockers as a teenager the effects of regular puberty will continue and if they're 18 they are adults and it's really none of your business what they do with their bodies. It's also really none of your business what young boys and girls who are not your children do with their bodies on the advice of their doctors but for some reason you think that's an authority you should have.

Utter bullshit. Society has a valid concern over kids being mutilated either by their choice or their parents or by some admin asshole at a school.

In the situation of early onset puberty you are delaying an abnormal condition. if you delay a NORMAL condition, once you pass a certain point you don't get that back, and even if you don't pass that point you MUST impact what would have been normal development. When you use them in early onset puberty you are trying to RESTORE normal development in an abnormal situation. when used in supposed gender dysphoria you are taking a normal situation and MAKING it abnormal.

My authority is as an American with a right to an opinion, and a right to vote for people who try to make laws that fit to my opinion.
 

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Utter bullshit. Society has a valid concern over kids being mutilated either by their choice or their parents or by some admin asshole at a school.
Sure, we just disagree on what constitutes valid concern. For instance I question the medical necessity of circumcision on young children. Isn't that something they should decide on their own? No one is holding down 16 year olds and forcing them to take hormone blockers. They are doing so by choice with consultation from their doctors.
In the situation of early onset puberty you are delaying an abnormal condition.
Gender Dysphoria isn't an abnormal condition?
if you delay a NORMAL condition, once you pass a certain point you don't get that back, and even if you don't pass that point you MUST impact what would have been normal development.
That period doesn't end before they are old enough as adults to make their own decisions.
When you use them in early onset puberty you are trying to RESTORE normal development in an abnormal situation. when used in supposed gender dysphoria you are taking a normal situation and MAKING it abnormal.
Your use of supposed gender dysphoria betrays your real objection. You don't believe gender dysphoria is a real thing but you're not a medical professional and you offer no countering medical opinion that gender dysphoria is made up. In other words your objection is scientifically, argumentively and medically unimportant.
My authority is as an American with a right to an opinion, and a right to vote for people who try to make laws that fit to my opinion.
So to be clear you want politicians to have the power to get inbetween patients, doctors and their medical treatments because you don't believe gender dysphoria is real but I'm guessing you believe Sky Daddy is. Am I right?
 

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Sure, we just disagree on what constitutes valid concern. For instance I question the medical necessity of circumcision on young children. Isn't that something they should decide on their own? No one is holding down 16 year olds and forcing them to take hormone blockers. They are doing so by choice with consultation from their doctors.

Gender Dysphoria isn't an abnormal condition?

That period doesn't end before they are old enough as adults to make their own decisions.

Your use of supposed gender dysphoria betrays your real objection. You don't believe gender dysphoria is a real thing but you're not a medical professional and you offer no countering medical opinion that gender dysphoria is made up. In other words your objection is scientifically, argumentively and medically unimportant.

So to be clear you want politicians to have the power to get inbetween patients, doctors and their medical treatments because you don't believe gender dysphoria is real but I'm guessing you believe Sky Daddy is. Am I right?

What I don't believe is the first and only solution to GD is mutilation, and I also believe many of the supposed cases we see are other mental issues being cornholed into the GD category because it's the hip trendy thing to do.


I believe once you take action, you own that action, if society decides it's OK to mutilate kids to let them pretend they are something they are not, society owns the damage done to them, and thus we have a say if this is a good idea or not.

Male circumcision does nothing to change the person from a man, and does nothing to impact their sex life. It is actually a benefit for hygiene.
 
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I don't know why you would want to do that.

I'd strongly advise you not to.

Your inability to provide credible documentation concerning your conspiracy fantasy about somebody whose "push is to normalize and promote mental illness, not treat it," is not surprising.
You’re the one dancing around the OP trying to make it no big deal.

Need to get the mods to clarify that when people openly support pedophillia we can label them as such.
 
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Sure, we just disagree on what constitutes valid concern. For instance I question the medical necessity of circumcision on young children. Isn't that something they should decide on their own? No one is holding down 16 year olds and forcing them to take hormone blockers. They are doing so by choice with consultation from their doctors.

Gender Dysphoria isn't an abnormal condition?

That period doesn't end before they are old enough as adults to make their own decisions.

Your use of supposed gender dysphoria betrays your real objection. You don't believe gender dysphoria is a real thing but you're not a medical professional and you offer no countering medical opinion that gender dysphoria is made up. In other words your objection is scientifically, argumentively and medically unimportant.

So to be clear you want politicians to have the power to get inbetween patients, doctors and their medical treatments because you don't believe gender dysphoria is real but I'm guessing you believe Sky Daddy is. Am I right?
Circumcision is a proven prevention for HIV. Therefore a medical prevention no different than a measles vaccination.
 

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You’re the one dancing around the OP trying to make it no big deal.

Need to get the mods to clarify that when people openly support pedophillia we can label them as such.
You can allow visions of Q-anon pedophile pizzas to dance in your head, but the American Medical Association is not engaged in a conspiracy to normalize pedophilia by recognizing a medical condition and treating it.
 

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