Transgender diagnosis

[there4eyeM]

The term "assigned gender" is quite interesting. Inherent in the terminology is that a person is a certain way and someone has put a noun to work categorizing them.
Note that it totally subverts the discussion by presenting gender as determined by language.
If a person with two legs said, "I have been labeled bipedal, yet am not", response would be confused, disoriented, difficult. Someone claiming to be tripedal and only born with two legs would be considered eccentric, strange, ridiculous, perhaps deluded. If the person insisted upon being referred to as tripedal, the person would probably be ignored unless insisting became too strenuous, at which time restraint would be used. No one, however, would think to say the person had been assigned bipedal as a description.
The human species is a bipedal animal.

 

[RealDave]

Why do Trumpettes hate transgendered people?

Most of them are pussies anyhow.

 

[BWK]

First off, I'm not here to label it. I presented my case based on my own research that I read. I'm not a doctor or professional who is qualified to label it either way. That said, those who take the leap to try and understand the biological influences from the developing brain in the womb where the signal to the brain becomes confused through a chemical reaction, confusing the chromosome makeup, should be hard pressed to call it a disorder. I don't know. I'm not a doctor.

My personal opinion, and this may take folks aback, but I am convinced that it is a biological function, not a disorder, to control populations. Population dynamics is a fascinating subject by its own right, because, without a population balance, and I'm going to use animals as an example, exceed the natural capacity of the land to support healthy populations. Anyone ever see a male Deer humping another male Deer for example? All the hunters out there have seen this, including me. As a matter of fact, I have hunted Deer in areas where the populations were so high, that there were visible browse lines absent of good nutritional food, weight loss occurred, and deformed racks were common place. And I can't tell you how many times I watched Bucks mounting other Bucks on these properties. Why is this important to understand as it relates to the OP? Because, I believe there is a direct relationship between nature trying to control populations by ensuring the land sustains a healthy population of animals. It's natures way of responding to the need. Nature is a constant, where it works around the clock for the perpetuation of the species. And how did it respond to the Deer? How many bucks impregnated other bucks?

In other words, to give some explanation to the OP, the answer we seek, is simply nature doing what nature does to ensure healthy populations. We as humans do not practice population control as a general rule, so nature maybe helping us out? In Biology, we know animals practice population control with the help of nature.

I think sane, intelligent, informed people can fill in the rest of the blanks for themselves. The rest will just have to live with their hate, ignorance, and unwillingness to learn anything past their noses.

Am I right? Maybe not? I'm not God. But I did at least make the attempt to go beyond the fear and the hatred before I made the conscious decision to either hate or accept something for which I had no previous understanding. For me, it makes perfect sense. For others, I don't know? That's up to them.

Understanding nature turned the corner for me, and once I gathered and understood all the data, it's been a no brainer for me.

Learn Biology people. That's all I can tell you. It will unlock an awful lot of bigotry.

Then why call anything a disorder? For example, if someone is born with a condition that will kill them quickly, you may as well reason that maybe nature is trying to reduce the population.

What a I missing here?

What your missing is the definition of a mental disorder which is behavioral or mental pattern that causes significant distress or impairment of personal functioning.

A person that feels that they are a female in a male body and is not distressed and is able to function in society without impairments does not have a mental disorder.

What you are missing is that a person who's gender identity is different from their assigned gender -and who does not get the support, validation, and medical care that they need-is indeed distressed and will have difficulty functioning in society. Can you possible be so calloused as to not know that?

This thread is 256 posts long, and not one coward/ hater/ignoramus ever challenged post#71 that I presented as a challenge. Why? Because they do not understand Biology for one, and secondly, it is so much more convenient to hide their fear by pedaling their hate and ignorance. And that is the line they will never cross. They aren't giving those three things up.

Can you at least admit it is a disorder or do you demand to use the PC term dysphoria?

Why would I do that, when I "personally" did the research that gives us a logical explanation about the whole thing? A Biological explanation that is. Based on that information, for me, it is a population control mechanism, not a "disorder". It's what nature provides, as the need to control populations arises. A normal function if you will.
So, based on the scientific research, a disorder is an abnormal physical or mental condition. If we were to go by that research, those two conditions do not apply in this case.But then again, no one on this board has done the research other than myself, because no challenges have been presented. You all first must understand what a "true disorder", actually is, and prove that disorder exists through your own scientific conclusions. Other than that, an intelligent debate is not possible.

 

[Polishprince]

Why do Trumpettes hate transgendered people?

Most of them are pussies anyhow.

Who says that President Trump or his supporters hate Trannies?

We just think they are weirdos, and the evidence seems to bear out that judgment if its looked at with objective eyes.


The Herald, Sharon, Pa.

 

[Votto]

Then why call anything a disorder? For example, if someone is born with a condition that will kill them quickly, you may as well reason that maybe nature is trying to reduce the population.

What a I missing here?

What your missing is the definition of a mental disorder which is behavioral or mental pattern that causes significant distress or impairment of personal functioning.

A person that feels that they are a female in a male body and is not distressed and is able to function in society without impairments does not have a mental disorder.

What you are missing is that a person who's gender identity is different from their assigned gender -and who does not get the support, validation, and medical care that they need-is indeed distressed and will have difficulty functioning in society. Can you possible be so calloused as to not know that?

This thread is 256 posts long, and not one coward/ hater/ignoramus ever challenged post#71 that I presented as a challenge. Why? Because they do not understand Biology for one, and secondly, it is so much more convenient to hide their fear by pedaling their hate and ignorance. And that is the line they will never cross. They aren't giving those three things up.

Can you at least admit it is a disorder or do you demand to use the PC term dysphoria?

Why would I do that, when I "personally" did the research that gives us a logical explanation about the whole thing. A Biological explanation that is. Based on that information, for me, it is a population control mechanism, not a "disorder". It's what nature provides, as the need to control populations arises. A normal function if you will.
So, based on the scientific research, a disorder is an abnormal physical or mental condition. If we were to go by that research, those two conditions do not apply in this case.But then again, no one on this board has done the research other than myself, because no challenges have been presented.

As I have already pointed out, any condition that can be identified as a disorder that leads to people not reproducing could also be deemed the same.


In other words, the Left is telling us that disorders no longer exist.

It's Ok, they have done this with everything. Now there is no such thing as male/female, right/wrong. No, it's all 0 shades of gray with no real differences.

 

[Polishprince]

Then why call anything a disorder? For example, if someone is born with a condition that will kill them quickly, you may as well reason that maybe nature is trying to reduce the population.

What a I missing here?

What your missing is the definition of a mental disorder which is behavioral or mental pattern that causes significant distress or impairment of personal functioning.

A person that feels that they are a female in a male body and is not distressed and is able to function in society without impairments does not have a mental disorder.

What you are missing is that a person who's gender identity is different from their assigned gender -and who does not get the support, validation, and medical care that they need-is indeed distressed and will have difficulty functioning in society. Can you possible be so calloused as to not know that?

This thread is 256 posts long, and not one coward/ hater/ignoramus ever challenged post#71 that I presented as a challenge. Why? Because they do not understand Biology for one, and secondly, it is so much more convenient to hide their fear by pedaling their hate and ignorance. And that is the line they will never cross. They aren't giving those three things up.

Can you at least admit it is a disorder or do you demand to use the PC term dysphoria?

Why would I do that, when I "personally" did the research that gives us a logical explanation about the whole thing. A Biological explanation that is. Based on that information, for me, it is a population control mechanism, not a "disorder". It's what nature provides, as the need to control populations arises. A normal function if you will.
So, based on the scientific research, a disorder is an abnormal physical or mental condition. If we were to go by that research, those two conditions do not apply in this case.But then again, no one on this board has done the research other than myself, because no challenges have been presented.

I heard your explanation, BWK, and it was sort of stupid. Nature doesn't need to control population in places like America. We aren't starving. If transsexualism was a natural population control mechanism, it would be more prevalent in areas which are enduring Famine, rather than in well fed countries like America. But that's not the case, the wealthiest cities are where it has taken hold.

 

[MisterBeale]

Is Being Transgender a Mental Disorder?

It used to be that being diagnosed as transgender was considered to be a mental illness, but not today.

Why?

If it is not a disorder then why the need to flood the body with foreign hormones and mutilate perfectly healthy genitals?

Because just like the Congressman(with Boobs) of Virginia who represents Prince William County, the insane are now in charge. Same when Barnical Frank was in the Senate a long time ago, he and the immoral fagots of the Hollyweird, pushed for fagottry to no longer be mentally insane and it passed. The only way to stop this insanity, is to have the purge. Some times, Hollyweird makes up some stuff that makes sense...

While I really agree with your thoughts on where society is headed, I don't agree on your prescription.

Unconditional love, and sacrifice are the cure, not retribution.

Like folks once recognized, if it were an illness, you don't treat the sick with violence, you treat them with compassion and empathy.

If you want a Hollyweird clip to look to, a Christ complex is more appropriate; the monster, of course, being the perversions now infecting and approved of in society;

 

[Votto]

Is Being Transgender a Mental Disorder?

It used to be that being diagnosed as transgender was considered to be a mental illness, but not today.

Why?

If it is not a disorder then why the need to flood the body with foreign hormones and mutilate perfectly healthy genitals?

Because just like the Congressman(with Boobs) of Virginia who represents Prince William County, the insane are now in charge. Same when Barnical Frank was in the Senate a long time ago, he and the immoral fagots of the Hollyweird, pushed for fagottry to no longer be mentally insane and it passed. The only way to stop this insanity, is to have the purge. Some times, Hollyweird makes up some stuff that makes sense...

While I really agree with your thoughts on where society is headed, I don't agree on your prescription.

Unconditional love, and sacrifice are the cure, not retribution.

Like folks once recognized, if it were an illness, you don't treat the sick with violence, you treat them with compassion and empathy.

If you want a Hollyweird clip to look to, a Christ complex is more appropriate; the monster, of course, being the perversions now infecting and approved of in society;

I disagree 100%.

When entering a Nazi extermination camp, you can show them as much love and understanding as you can muster, but at the end of the day most, if not all, of those running it need to be lynched.

Sometimes love involves killing those who murder because we love those that they seek to murder.

 

[MisterBeale]

Why do Trumpettes hate transgendered people?

Most of them are pussies anyhow.

Transgendered folks, or Trumpettes?

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

What your missing is the definition of a mental disorder which is behavioral or mental pattern that causes significant distress or impairment of personal functioning.

A person that feels that they are a female in a male body and is not distressed and is able to function in society without impairments does not have a mental disorder.

What you are missing is that a person who's gender identity is different from their assigned gender -and who does not get the support, validation, and medical care that they need-is indeed distressed and will have difficulty functioning in society. Can you possible be so calloused as to not know that?

This thread is 256 posts long, and not one coward/ hater/ignoramus ever challenged post#71 that I presented as a challenge. Why? Because they do not understand Biology for one, and secondly, it is so much more convenient to hide their fear by pedaling their hate and ignorance. And that is the line they will never cross. They aren't giving those three things up.

Can you at least admit it is a disorder or do you demand to use the PC term dysphoria?

Why would I do that, when I "personally" did the research that gives us a logical explanation about the whole thing. A Biological explanation that is. Based on that information, for me, it is a population control mechanism, not a "disorder". It's what nature provides, as the need to control populations arises. A normal function if you will.
So, based on the scientific research, a disorder is an abnormal physical or mental condition. If we were to go by that research, those two conditions do not apply in this case.But then again, no one on this board has done the research other than myself, because no challenges have been presented.

As I have already pointed out, any condition that can be identified as a disorder that leads to people not reproducing could also be deemed the same.


In other words, the Left is telling us that disorders no longer exist.

It's Ok, they have done this with everything. Now there is no such thing as male/female, right/wrong. No, it's all 0 shades of gray with no real differences.

Can all cis-gender, heterosexuals reproduce, and do you harbor the same animosity towards those who cannot?

 

[MisterBeale]

Is Being Transgender a Mental Disorder?

It used to be that being diagnosed as transgender was considered to be a mental illness, but not today.

Why?

If it is not a disorder then why the need to flood the body with foreign hormones and mutilate perfectly healthy genitals?

Because just like the Congressman(with Boobs) of Virginia who represents Prince William County, the insane are now in charge. Same when Barnical Frank was in the Senate a long time ago, he and the immoral fagots of the Hollyweird, pushed for fagottry to no longer be mentally insane and it passed. The only way to stop this insanity, is to have the purge. Some times, Hollyweird makes up some stuff that makes sense...

While I really agree with your thoughts on where society is headed, I don't agree on your prescription.

Unconditional love, and sacrifice are the cure, not retribution.

Like folks once recognized, if it were an illness, you don't treat the sick with violence, you treat them with compassion and empathy.

If you want a Hollyweird clip to look to, a Christ complex is more appropriate; the monster, of course, being the perversions now infecting and approved of in society;

I disagree 100%.

When entering a Nazi extermination camp, you can show them as much love and understanding as you can muster, but at the end of the day most, if not all, of those running it need to be lynched.

Sometimes love involves killing those who murder because we love those that they seek to murder.

Wow, you have to invoke Nazis huh?

Well, you just lost your argument. Godwin's law.

 

[BWK]

Why do Trumpettes hate transgendered people?

Most of them are pussies anyhow.

Who says that President Trump or his supporters hate Trannies?

We just think they are weirdos, and the evidence seems to bear out that judgment if its looked at with objective eyes.


The Herald, Sharon, Pa.

What your missing is the definition of a mental disorder which is behavioral or mental pattern that causes significant distress or impairment of personal functioning.

A person that feels that they are a female in a male body and is not distressed and is able to function in society without impairments does not have a mental disorder.

What you are missing is that a person who's gender identity is different from their assigned gender -and who does not get the support, validation, and medical care that they need-is indeed distressed and will have difficulty functioning in society. Can you possible be so calloused as to not know that?

This thread is 256 posts long, and not one coward/ hater/ignoramus ever challenged post#71 that I presented as a challenge. Why? Because they do not understand Biology for one, and secondly, it is so much more convenient to hide their fear by pedaling their hate and ignorance. And that is the line they will never cross. They aren't giving those three things up.

Can you at least admit it is a disorder or do you demand to use the PC term dysphoria?

Why would I do that, when I "personally" did the research that gives us a logical explanation about the whole thing. A Biological explanation that is. Based on that information, for me, it is a population control mechanism, not a "disorder". It's what nature provides, as the need to control populations arises. A normal function if you will.
So, based on the scientific research, a disorder is an abnormal physical or mental condition. If we were to go by that research, those two conditions do not apply in this case.But then again, no one on this board has done the research other than myself, because no challenges have been presented.

I heard your explanation, BWK, and it was sort of stupid. Nature doesn't need to control population in places like America. We aren't starving. If transsexualism was a natural population control mechanism, it would be more prevalent in areas which are enduring Famine, rather than in well fed countries like America. But that's not the case, the wealthiest cities are where it has taken hold.

Is nature site specific to exclude America? I've read some gosh awful stupid/ignorant responses before, but yours will go down as the top ten dumbest of them all. You are a hopeless case, because you have zero understanding of population dynamics in nature.

Famine is a result of a lack of food, not a Biological process. Go back to school. You have zero chance at debating this subject against me. Just leave. I'm embarrassed to even be discussing this with such a grossly uninformed person.

 

[BWK]

What your missing is the definition of a mental disorder which is behavioral or mental pattern that causes significant distress or impairment of personal functioning.

A person that feels that they are a female in a male body and is not distressed and is able to function in society without impairments does not have a mental disorder.

What you are missing is that a person who's gender identity is different from their assigned gender -and who does not get the support, validation, and medical care that they need-is indeed distressed and will have difficulty functioning in society. Can you possible be so calloused as to not know that?

This thread is 256 posts long, and not one coward/ hater/ignoramus ever challenged post#71 that I presented as a challenge. Why? Because they do not understand Biology for one, and secondly, it is so much more convenient to hide their fear by pedaling their hate and ignorance. And that is the line they will never cross. They aren't giving those three things up.

Can you at least admit it is a disorder or do you demand to use the PC term dysphoria?

Why would I do that, when I "personally" did the research that gives us a logical explanation about the whole thing. A Biological explanation that is. Based on that information, for me, it is a population control mechanism, not a "disorder". It's what nature provides, as the need to control populations arises. A normal function if you will.
So, based on the scientific research, a disorder is an abnormal physical or mental condition. If we were to go by that research, those two conditions do not apply in this case.But then again, no one on this board has done the research other than myself, because no challenges have been presented.

As I have already pointed out, any condition that can be identified as a disorder that leads to people not reproducing could also be deemed the same.

Is that a scientific conclusion you found? Because the definition of "disorder" does not mention that.

In other words, the Left is telling us that disorders no longer exist.

"The Left"? The Left doesn't invent definitions. And you obviously did not do the research.

It's Ok, they have done this with everything. Now there is no such thing as male/female, right/wrong. No, it's all 0 shades of gray with no real differences.

You need to take extensive courses in Biology to participate in intelligent debate. In the mean time, these folks were and still are being murdered because of fear, hate, and ignorance.

 

[BWK]

What you are missing is that a person who's gender identity is different from their assigned gender -and who does not get the support, validation, and medical care that they need-is indeed distressed and will have difficulty functioning in society. Can you possible be so calloused as to not know that?

This thread is 256 posts long, and not one coward/ hater/ignoramus ever challenged post#71 that I presented as a challenge. Why? Because they do not understand Biology for one, and secondly, it is so much more convenient to hide their fear by pedaling their hate and ignorance. And that is the line they will never cross. They aren't giving those three things up.

Can you at least admit it is a disorder or do you demand to use the PC term dysphoria?

Why would I do that, when I "personally" did the research that gives us a logical explanation about the whole thing. A Biological explanation that is. Based on that information, for me, it is a population control mechanism, not a "disorder". It's what nature provides, as the need to control populations arises. A normal function if you will.
So, based on the scientific research, a disorder is an abnormal physical or mental condition. If we were to go by that research, those two conditions do not apply in this case.But then again, no one on this board has done the research other than myself, because no challenges have been presented.

As I have already pointed out, any condition that can be identified as a disorder that leads to people not reproducing could also be deemed the same.


In other words, the Left is telling us that disorders no longer exist.

It's Ok, they have done this with everything. Now there is no such thing as male/female, right/wrong. No, it's all 0 shades of gray with no real differences.

Can all cis-gender, heterosexuals reproduce, and do you harbor the same animosity towards those who cannot?

The gross ignorance from these folks boggles the mind. After this many posts, the truth of their hate, fear, and ignorance is off the charts. You realize they know shit. It's so pathetic.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

What you are missing is that a person who's gender identity is different from their assigned gender…

That is anti-scientific bullsh•t, and every sane person knows it.

 

[Conservative65]

That is pretty ******* cold , dude. What the **** is wrong with you! You are the one with the problem.

There's nothing wrong with me. I'm male, know I'm male, and don't have a mental disorder where I think I can be female because I feel like it.

Nothing wrong with you? Really? You have the empathy and self awareness of a five year old. That is what's wrong with you!

I'm very self aware. I fully realize I was born male and can't be anything but a male. As for the freaks, they need help with their mental illness. That's what wrong with them and you supporting them believing something that can't be true means you also need help.

41% and going higher.

Why are you so angry about, and so threatened by threatened by this issue to the point where you are unable to consider the underlying biological aspects, or relate to these people as human beings?

Because fear, hatred, and ignorance are much easier.

Typical left wing bullshit when someone points out facts.

 

[Conservative65]

This thread is 256 posts long, and not one coward/ hater/ignoramus ever challenged post#71 that I presented as a challenge. Why? Because they do not understand Biology for one, and secondly, it is so much more convenient to hide their fear by pedaling their hate and ignorance. And that is the line they will never cross. They aren't giving those three things up.

Can you at least admit it is a disorder or do you demand to use the PC term dysphoria?

Why would I do that, when I "personally" did the research that gives us a logical explanation about the whole thing. A Biological explanation that is. Based on that information, for me, it is a population control mechanism, not a "disorder". It's what nature provides, as the need to control populations arises. A normal function if you will.
So, based on the scientific research, a disorder is an abnormal physical or mental condition. If we were to go by that research, those two conditions do not apply in this case.But then again, no one on this board has done the research other than myself, because no challenges have been presented.

As I have already pointed out, any condition that can be identified as a disorder that leads to people not reproducing could also be deemed the same.


In other words, the Left is telling us that disorders no longer exist.

It's Ok, they have done this with everything. Now there is no such thing as male/female, right/wrong. No, it's all 0 shades of gray with no real differences.

Can all cis-gender, heterosexuals reproduce, and do you harbor the same animosity towards those who cannot?

The gross ignorance from these folks boggles the mind. After this many posts, the truth of their hate, fear, and ignorance is off the charts. You realize they know shit. It's so pathetic.

Nothing ignorant about knowing that being born male means you're male (vice versa) and no matter how hard you wish for it to be true, you can't be the opposite gender.

BTW, there are only two genders. Anything else shows a mental illness of those claiming it and supporting it.

 

[Conservative65]

You confuse feeling threatened with not accepting abnormal behavior.

If one of them commits suicide because they get their feelings hurt when someone isn't accepting of their abnormal behavior, that's their problem.

That is pretty ******* cold , dude. What the **** is wrong with you! You are the one with the problem.

There's nothing wrong with me. I'm male, know I'm male, and don't have a mental disorder where I think I can be female because I feel like it.

Nothing wrong with you? Really? You have the empathy and self awareness of a five year old. That is what's wrong with you!

I'm very self aware. I fully realize I was born male and can't be anything but a male. As for the freaks, they need help with their mental illness. That's what wrong with them and you supporting them believing something that can't be true means you also need help.

41% and going higher.

Why are you so angry about, and so threatened by this issue to the point where you are unable to consider the underlying biological aspects, or relate to these people as human beings?

You confuse unwilling to encourage those with a mental illness to get help with being angry.

The biological aspects are that if you're born a male, you're a male no matter how much you claim otherwise. Same with females.

It's quite obvious these freaks are threatened with the facts being that so many kill themselves because they can't accept others don't encourage their mental illness.

 

[BWK]

Can you at least admit it is a disorder or do you demand to use the PC term dysphoria?

Why would I do that, when I "personally" did the research that gives us a logical explanation about the whole thing. A Biological explanation that is. Based on that information, for me, it is a population control mechanism, not a "disorder". It's what nature provides, as the need to control populations arises. A normal function if you will.
So, based on the scientific research, a disorder is an abnormal physical or mental condition. If we were to go by that research, those two conditions do not apply in this case.But then again, no one on this board has done the research other than myself, because no challenges have been presented.

As I have already pointed out, any condition that can be identified as a disorder that leads to people not reproducing could also be deemed the same.


In other words, the Left is telling us that disorders no longer exist.

It's Ok, they have done this with everything. Now there is no such thing as male/female, right/wrong. No, it's all 0 shades of gray with no real differences.

Can all cis-gender, heterosexuals reproduce, and do you harbor the same animosity towards those who cannot?

The gross ignorance from these folks boggles the mind. After this many posts, the truth of their hate, fear, and ignorance is off the charts. You realize they know shit. It's so pathetic.

Nothing ignorant about knowing that being born male means you're male (vice versa) and no matter how hard you wish for it to be true, you can't be the opposite gender.

BTW, there are only two genders. Anything else shows a mental illness of those claiming it and supporting it.

If you had done the research like I had, you would already know that I never made the claim that there were more than two genders.

And the second way we know you haven't done the research, is the fact that you conclude a male cannot be a female in a male body. If you had read up on modern scientific research as to how that could be possible,then you wouldn't be drawing your own conclusions with no research. But that is the fundamental problem coming from haters, and ignoramuses. They are scared to learn what they are afraid they may find out. And that fear transports itself into hatred and ignorance. It also explains why so many Homosexuals and Transgenders have been murdered.

 

[BWK]

That is pretty ******* cold , dude. What the **** is wrong with you! You are the one with the problem.

There's nothing wrong with me. I'm male, know I'm male, and don't have a mental disorder where I think I can be female because I feel like it.

Nothing wrong with you? Really? You have the empathy and self awareness of a five year old. That is what's wrong with you!

I'm very self aware. I fully realize I was born male and can't be anything but a male. As for the freaks, they need help with their mental illness. That's what wrong with them and you supporting them believing something that can't be true means you also need help.

41% and going higher.

Why are you so angry about, and so threatened by this issue to the point where you are unable to consider the underlying biological aspects, or relate to these people as human beings?

You confuse unwilling to encourage those with a mental illness to get help with being angry.

The biological aspects are that if you're born a male, you're a male no matter how much you claim otherwise. Same with females.

It's quite obvious these freaks are threatened with the facts being that so many kill themselves because they can't accept others don't encourage their mental illness.

Your scientific proof it is a "mental illness"? Your scientific proof they are "freaks"?