Transgender diagnosis

[boedicca]

Is Being Transgender a Mental Disorder?

It used to be that being diagnosed as transgender was considered to be a mental illness, but not today.

Why?

If it is not a disorder then why the need to flood the body with foreign hormones and mutilate perfectly healthy genitals?

Transgenders fall in the following categories:

1. Cross dressers who have no intention of getting a sex change operation. Trans is a fashion statement for them.

2. Confused teenagers who are going through a phase and should not be medicated or surgically altered until they are well into adulthood and have time to fully consider the ramifications of such. Butchering such teens is extreme child abuse.

3. People born sexually ambiguous (middlesex, hermaphrodites) who are either surgically altered as babies or children or decide to do so later in life.

4.. People with Gender Dysmorphia who confuse being Trans with a solution to their actual mental problems. The suicide rate for them is incredibly high.

People can suffer from gender identification disorder (gender dysphoria) and be none of the above. They are often physically normal in every way. Gender dysphoria is the distress a person experiences as a result of a mismatch of their sex and gender assigned at birth. The key point in the diagnosis is distress.

There are many people that can cope with a mismatch between their sex and gender. These people do not have a mental disorder because they cope with this mismatch. They may cross dress, adopt mannerism of the opposite sex, or even pose as opposite sex. However, there are many people who can't cope. The mismatch between their gender and sex is insurmountable.

Agreed. I should have used the term Body Dysmorphia instead of Gender. Gender Dysphoria is pretty rare and is overly applied to confused young people and those with mental problems.

 

[Ame®icano]

Is Being Transgender a Mental Disorder?

It used to be that being diagnosed as transgender was considered to be a mental illness, but not today.

Why?

If it is not a disorder then why the need to flood the body with foreign hormones and mutilate perfectly healthy genitals?

Transgenders fall in the following categories:

1. Cross dressers who have no intention of getting a sex change operation. Trans is a fashion statement for them.

2. Confused teenagers who are going through a phase and should not be medicated or surgically altered until they are well into adulthood and have time to fully consider the ramifications of such. Butchering such teens is extreme child abuse.

3. People born sexually ambiguous (middlesex, hermaphrodites) who are either surgically altered as babies or children or decide to do so later in life.

4.. People with Gender Dysmophia who confuse being Trans with a solution to their actual mental problems. The suicide rate for them is incredibly high.

People can suffer from gender identification disorder (gender dysphoria) and be none of the above. They are often physically normal in every way. Gender dysphoria is the distress a person experiences as a result of a mismatch of their sex and gender assigned at birth. The key point in the diagnosis is distress.

There are many people that can cope with a mismatch between their sex and gender. These people do not have a mental disorder because they cope with this mismatch. They may cross dress, adopt mannerism of the opposite sex, or even pose as the opposite sex. However, there are many people who can't cope. The mismatch between their gender and sex is insurmountable.

What's the solution?

You don’t treat a mental illness by helping the symptoms. You don’t stop feeding an anorexic person food because they believe they are fat, do you?

I could try to understand the transition if changing chromosome is possible, but since it's not, why bother?

 

[Ame®icano]

It's very common for people to live with mental disorders for years and then something happens that brings it all to the surface. In almost all cases of transgender it makes it appears at young age often before puberty. The child may or may not adapt. Those that can't end up in some form of therapy. Those that can adapt do in various ways such as cross dressing, engaging in homosexual relationships, assuming the role of their gender or even totally rejecting their sexuality. However, at some point in their lives something happens and they find themselves having to confront the same problem they had as child and adaption does not work for them.

However, even knowing that gender cannot be changed, therapy is used as encouragement that gives false hope that it can. Keep feeding kids with hormones and telling them Cinderella is real, instead of facing them with reality. Once they face the reality on their own, and realize there are no unicorns, what's left for them?

A mutilated body, broken delusions & a bunch of “doctors” who helped them get to that suicidal condition. Aka malpractice.

Because transgenders are being sold on a fairytale that you can be "anything you want" in a social context. They are being sold dreams by a disgusting form of capitalism that feeds them hormones, makeup, and operations with the lie that "you can be a girl if you just put your money into it." And to support this venture, a network has been established to convince people of these lies and bruteforce something that society finds abhorrent through before anyone can react.

The truth is, there is no place for this "trans identity" at this time. Society, or at least majority will continue to be disgusted and reject people that try to force people to play into their fantasies. But somehow I am not angry at trans people. I'm saddened, because you have been fed lies by politicians, doctors, and social engineers, lies that convinced them that their dream will come true. They want to have it all, but they can't. They are trading away their long term future, their long term position in society, for short-sighted gains where they attempt to be pretty as possible, which is an incredible gamble. And as they get older, age will hit them harder than regular men and undo their efforts. And either they spend more money to maintain themselves or they can't, and their efforts were all for naught.

It's disgusting. It's disgusting that we have come to the point where individuals with issues are being taken advantage of and being fed lies to fit in or because they think it will make their position in life better. Can transgenders even claim satisfaction with their choice 10 years down the road? How about 20? When the normal people around them settle down and have families, and meanwhile their ilk are unable to have that normal life except among individuals who fetishize trans people or have severe mental problems themselves?

 

[Flopper]

Transgenders fall in the following categories:

1. Cross dressers who have no intention of getting a sex change operation. Trans is a fashion statement for them.

2. Confused teenagers who are going through a phase and should not be medicated or surgically altered until they are well into adulthood and have time to fully consider the ramifications of such. Butchering such teens is extreme child abuse.

3. People born sexually ambiguous (middlesex, hermaphrodites) who are either surgically altered as babies or children or decide to do so later in life.

4.. People with Gender Dysmophia who confuse being Trans with a solution to their actual mental problems. The suicide rate for them is incredibly high.

Mentally healthy people have a biological aversion to the obviously mentally ill. Anyone who believes they are the opposite gender, and then pretends to be the opposite gender is very clearly mentally ill. If schizos demanded we believe their delusions, we'd lock them all back up.

Despite of how cold-blooded it sounds, it's natural to dislike aberrations in nature. It's how humans evolved.

I guess it depends how you define mental illness. Medical doctors and psychologists define a mental illness as a disease that causes mild to severe disturbances in thought and/or behavior, resulting in an inability to cope with life’s ordinary demands and routines. Being mentally abnormal does not mean you're mentally ill.

Remember the movie, "Harvey" about a man whose best friend is a pooka named Harvey, in the form of a six foot tall invisible rabbit. One of the underlying points in the movie was the man did not suffered from mental illness because he was perfectly able to cope with life's demands. The laymen would certainly consider him crazy, but not a doctor.

Yes, it is natural to dislike the aberrations in nature, to cross the street to avoid a terribly disfigured person, an adult with the mind of a child, and a man with mannerisms of a woman. However what is natural is not necessarily good, so too what is normal is not always good or desirable.

 

[Flopper]

Is Being Transgender a Mental Disorder?

It used to be that being diagnosed as transgender was considered to be a mental illness, but not today.

Why?

If it is not a disorder then why the need to flood the body with foreign hormones and mutilate perfectly healthy genitals?

Transgenders fall in the following categories:

1. Cross dressers who have no intention of getting a sex change operation. Trans is a fashion statement for them.

2. Confused teenagers who are going through a phase and should not be medicated or surgically altered until they are well into adulthood and have time to fully consider the ramifications of such. Butchering such teens is extreme child abuse.

3. People born sexually ambiguous (middlesex, hermaphrodites) who are either surgically altered as babies or children or decide to do so later in life.

4.. People with Gender Dysmorphia who confuse being Trans with a solution to their actual mental problems. The suicide rate for them is incredibly high.

People can suffer from gender identification disorder (gender dysphoria) and be none of the above. They are often physically normal in every way. Gender dysphoria is the distress a person experiences as a result of a mismatch of their sex and gender assigned at birth. The key point in the diagnosis is distress.

There are many people that can cope with a mismatch between their sex and gender. These people do not have a mental disorder because they cope with this mismatch. They may cross dress, adopt mannerism of the opposite sex, or even pose as opposite sex. However, there are many people who can't cope. The mismatch between their gender and sex is insurmountable.

Agreed. I should have used the term Body Dysmorphia instead of Gender. Gender Dysphoria is pretty rare and is overly applied to confused young people and those with mental problems.

Yes, it is rare and is probably is over applied by laymen. However, I think doctors and psychologist that specialize in this disorder can accurately diagnose it.

True Gender Dysphoria can be horrible particular for family members.

 

[Flopper]

It's very common for people to live with mental disorders for years and then something happens that brings it all to the surface. In almost all cases of transgender it makes it appears at young age often before puberty. The child may or may not adapt. Those that can't end up in some form of therapy. Those that can adapt do in various ways such as cross dressing, engaging in homosexual relationships, assuming the role of their gender or even totally rejecting their sexuality. However, at some point in their lives something happens and they find themselves having to confront the same problem they had as child and adaption does not work for them.

However, even knowing that gender cannot be changed, therapy is used as encouragement that gives false hope that it can. Keep feeding kids with hormones and telling them Cinderella is real, instead of facing them with reality. Once they face the reality on their own, and realize there are no unicorns, what's left for them?

A mutilated body, broken delusions & a bunch of “doctors” who helped them get to that suicidal condition. Aka malpractice.

Because transgenders are being sold on a fairytale that you can be "anything you want" in a social context. They are being sold dreams by a disgusting form of capitalism that feeds them hormones, makeup, and operations with the lie that "you can be a girl if you just put your money into it." And to support this venture, a network has been established to convince people of these lies and bruteforce something that society finds abhorrent through before anyone can react.

The truth is, there is no place for this "trans identity" at this time. Society, or at least majority will continue to be disgusted and reject people that try to force people to play into their fantasies. But somehow I am not angry at trans people. I'm saddened, because you have been fed lies by politicians, doctors, and social engineers, lies that convinced them that their dream will come true. They want to have it all, but they can't. They are trading away their long term future, their long term position in society, for short-sighted gains where they attempt to be pretty as possible, which is an incredible gamble. And as they get older, age will hit them harder than regular men and undo their efforts. And either they spend more money to maintain themselves or they can't, and their efforts were all for naught.

It's disgusting. It's disgusting that we have come to the point where individuals with issues are being taken advantage of and being fed lies to fit in or because they think it will make their position in life better. Can transgenders even claim satisfaction with their choice 10 years down the road? How about 20? When the normal people around them settle down and have families, and meanwhile their ilk are unable to have that normal life except among individuals who fetishize trans people or have severe mental problems themselves?

Don't agree with all your post but I do agree it has been overly politicized.

 

[boedicca]

Transgenders fall in the following categories:

1. Cross dressers who have no intention of getting a sex change operation. Trans is a fashion statement for them.

2. Confused teenagers who are going through a phase and should not be medicated or surgically altered until they are well into adulthood and have time to fully consider the ramifications of such. Butchering such teens is extreme child abuse.

3. People born sexually ambiguous (middlesex, hermaphrodites) who are either surgically altered as babies or children or decide to do so later in life.

4.. People with Gender Dysmophia who confuse being Trans with a solution to their actual mental problems. The suicide rate for them is incredibly high.

Mentally healthy people have a biological aversion to the obviously mentally ill. Anyone who believes they are the opposite gender, and then pretends to be the opposite gender is very clearly mentally ill. If schizos demanded we believe their delusions, we'd lock them all back up.

Despite of how cold-blooded it sounds, it's natural to dislike aberrations in nature. It's how humans evolved.

I guess it depends how you define mental illness. Medical doctors and psychologists define a mental illness as a disease that causes mild to severe disturbances in thought and/or behavior, resulting in an inability to cope with life’s ordinary demands and routines. Being mentally abnormal does not mean you're mentally ill.

Remember the movie, "Harvey" about a man whose best friend is a pooka named Harvey, in the form of a six foot tall invisible rabbit. One of the underlying points in the movie was the man did not suffered from mental illness because he was perfectly able to cope with life's demands. The laymen would certainly consider him crazy, but not a doctor.

Yes, it is natural to dislike the aberrations in nature, to cross the street to avoid a terribly disfigured person, an adult with the mind of a child, and a man with mannerisms of a woman. However what is natural is not necessarily good, so too what is normal is not always good or desirable.

Good points. Eccentric doesn't mean mentally ill.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

The mentally ill gets a "new vagina".



1:22 "you have the most beautiful vagina in the whole wide world"
2:18 "I am excited for Jazz to see her vagina"
5:28 "overnight my vagina suddenly changed"

Notice how many times they call it "vagina" when it isn't.
How do I get off this ride? Sickening. Disgusting.

It's actually a section of bowel. The male to female surgery uses the penis to form the vaginal canal. Jazz has been on hormones since he was 11. His penis never developed. Other tissue had to be used. They used a section of bowel. This tissue will produce mucosa which will have an odor, like bowels.

It was on the show. The whole discussion.

So she will have a vagina that smells like poop?

Sounds to me like what they've achieved is to build a man with two assholes.