progressive hunter
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NOPE,,,
murder is a legal term that requires intent, and since there hasnt been any proof of intent nor a court verdict its not murder,,,
Training and the drug over dose will likely free the George Floyd police officer, new video shows training, so he walks....
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murder is a legal term that requires intent, and since there hasnt been any proof of intent nor a court verdict its not murder,,,
Hellbilly
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We shall see.
progressive hunter
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yes we shall,,,
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explain how someone can't breath with a knee on the head with airway exposed?
Relevant reading...
MN cops learned Knee-On-Neck in Israeli training trip
'Over 100 Minnesota law enforcement officers attended a 2012 conference organized by the Israeli consulate in which Israeli police trained them. Israeli forces often use the knee-on-neck restraint on Palestinians…
Israel has been training law enforcement officers around the US for many years, despite the fact that Israeli forces have a long record of human rights violations…
The neck technique taught by Israeli trainers was in the Minneapolis police manual''
jc456
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you didn't read the OP?
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A look, in detail, at the death of George Floyd....the police should be acquitted .....
In a second memorandum filed June 1, Baker described Floyd’s fentanyl level as “pretty high,” and a potentially “fatal level.”
Dr. Baker reported Floyd had 11 ng/mL of fentanyl in his blood, adding, “If he were found dead at home alone and no other apparent causes, this could be acceptable to call an OD. Deaths have been certified with levels of 3."
In other words, while levels of 3 ng/mL have caused fatal fentanyl overdoses. George ingested nearly four times that amount, or 11 ng/mL of fentanyl, in his bloodstream.
In another document, Dr. Baker said, "That is a fatal level of fentanyl under normal circumstances."
Granted, mounting political pressure led to subsequent private autopsy reports, paid for by the family, showing the cause of death as a combination of both fentanyl and asphyxiation from the officer’s knee.
Of course they do.
But the prosecution, to obtain a conviction, must prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. They must prove that the officer’s knee, and not the massive fentanyl dosage, killed George Floyd.
That’s a tall order.
Not only that, but the infamous, “knee-technique,” which should be banned, was authorized by the Minneapolis PD. Officer Chauvin followed authorized procedure, a technique for keeping a suspect on the ground, after George Floyd had fought officers for over ten minutes, and after, only -- and this is the kicker -- George requested, repeatedly, to lay on the ground.
But Chauvin’s knee is a red herring. The issue here is fentanyl.
Here's how the respected website, WebMD, describes the effects of fentanyl:
“[F]entanyl has rapid and potent effects on the brain and body, and even very small amounts can be extremely dangerous.
“It only takes a tiny amount of the drug to cause a deadly reaction,” ... “Fentanyl can depress breathing and lead to death. The risk of overdose is high with fentanyl.”
Here’s what the CDC says about fentanyl. “It is 50 to 100 times more potent than morphine.” Fentanyl | Drug Overdose | CDC Injury Center
Of course George couldn’t breathe -- because fentanyl, mixed with methamphetamines, kills breathing. Despite the bad optics, “I can’t breathe” was not because of the officer’s knee.
The medical examiner’s statement on lethal fentanyl, and the previous protestations of “I can’t breathe,” even before he got into the back seat of the squad car, and long before Chauvin applied the notorious “knee” technique, shows that George was already dying from the lethal fentanyl overdose before officers put him in the back seat of the car. That fentanyl, with methamphetamine ingestion, and cannabinoids -- that’s right, George popped some meth alongside the fentanyl, plus a little reefer too -- raises more than a reasonable doubt in favor of these policemen.
www.americanthinker.com
In a second memorandum filed June 1, Baker described Floyd’s fentanyl level as “pretty high,” and a potentially “fatal level.”
Dr. Baker reported Floyd had 11 ng/mL of fentanyl in his blood, adding, “If he were found dead at home alone and no other apparent causes, this could be acceptable to call an OD. Deaths have been certified with levels of 3."
In other words, while levels of 3 ng/mL have caused fatal fentanyl overdoses. George ingested nearly four times that amount, or 11 ng/mL of fentanyl, in his bloodstream.
In another document, Dr. Baker said, "That is a fatal level of fentanyl under normal circumstances."
Granted, mounting political pressure led to subsequent private autopsy reports, paid for by the family, showing the cause of death as a combination of both fentanyl and asphyxiation from the officer’s knee.
Of course they do.
But the prosecution, to obtain a conviction, must prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. They must prove that the officer’s knee, and not the massive fentanyl dosage, killed George Floyd.
That’s a tall order.
Not only that, but the infamous, “knee-technique,” which should be banned, was authorized by the Minneapolis PD. Officer Chauvin followed authorized procedure, a technique for keeping a suspect on the ground, after George Floyd had fought officers for over ten minutes, and after, only -- and this is the kicker -- George requested, repeatedly, to lay on the ground.
But Chauvin’s knee is a red herring. The issue here is fentanyl.
Here's how the respected website, WebMD, describes the effects of fentanyl:
“[F]entanyl has rapid and potent effects on the brain and body, and even very small amounts can be extremely dangerous.
“It only takes a tiny amount of the drug to cause a deadly reaction,” ... “Fentanyl can depress breathing and lead to death. The risk of overdose is high with fentanyl.”
Here’s what the CDC says about fentanyl. “It is 50 to 100 times more potent than morphine.” Fentanyl | Drug Overdose | CDC Injury Center
Of course George couldn’t breathe -- because fentanyl, mixed with methamphetamines, kills breathing. Despite the bad optics, “I can’t breathe” was not because of the officer’s knee.
The medical examiner’s statement on lethal fentanyl, and the previous protestations of “I can’t breathe,” even before he got into the back seat of the squad car, and long before Chauvin applied the notorious “knee” technique, shows that George was already dying from the lethal fentanyl overdose before officers put him in the back seat of the car. That fentanyl, with methamphetamine ingestion, and cannabinoids -- that’s right, George popped some meth alongside the fentanyl, plus a little reefer too -- raises more than a reasonable doubt in favor of these policemen.
Who Killed George Floyd?
If they get a fair trial, a questionable proposition at best, Minneapolis police officers charged with murdering George Floyd should be acquitted. Let's consider new, undisputed evidence, beyond the initial bystander’s video that we&rsqu...
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You keep lying and lie claiming you aren't. Funny. Good cop bad thug.
progressive hunter
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thats not what I said dumbass,,,stop lying,,,
JusticeHammer
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Facts prove that to be a lie.
progressive hunter
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my opinion has nothing to do with facts,,,its just an opinion,,,
I dont want a police force that kneels on a dead mans neck for 9 minutes,,,,
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They didn't murder him...they didn't even cause his death, you dumb ass....he was dead before the cops arrived....the fentanyl killed him........
If the cops had been 10 minutes later he would have been dead on the ground.....all on his lonesome.......the cops had nothing to do with his death.
Dr. Baker reported Floyd had 11 ng/mL of fentanyl in his blood, adding, “If he were found dead at home alone and no other apparent causes, this could be acceptable to call an OD. Deaths have been certified with levels of 3."
In other words, while levels of 3 ng/mL have caused fatal fentanyl overdoses. George ingested nearly four times that amount, or 11 ng/mL of fentanyl, in his bloodstream. In another document, Dr. Baker said, "That is a fatal level of fentanyl under normal circumstances."
Who Killed George Floyd?
If they get a fair trial, a questionable proposition at best, Minneapolis police officers charged with murdering George Floyd should be acquitted. Let's consider new, undisputed evidence, beyond the initial bystander’s video that we&rsqu...
JusticeHammer
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Facts prove you are lying.
AZrailwhale
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How can anyone claim with a straight face that the cops killed him when he had nearly four times the lethal dosage of Fentanyl in his system when the cops arrived on the scene? He was a dead man walking regardless of what the cops did, he would have died at about the same time even if the cops never showed up.
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