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Top 10 Scientific Proofs of God’s Existence

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The atheists snark "Which god" and then giggle at themselves, thinking their snark is clever.

1. The God of Americans - "One Nation Under God." That's our motto.
It's on every bill of currency, on every coin.

2. Nature's God, named in our Declaration of Independence. That "God."

3. The God to Whom Americans pledge allegiance and to our flag.

4. The God who made nature and man.

Dozens of His creations are described in my book, Brilliant Creations - The Wonder of Nature and Life.

Medical doctor John Orosz calls it "beyond outstanding."
 

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The atheists snark "Which god" and then giggle at themselves, thinking their snark is clever.

We get it. _You_ believe in a certain god. Of course, that god can't exist, due to the contradictions of the omni-attributes.

That's why "which god" matters. For example, the Jewish version of god isn't assigned the omni-attributes, so it doesn't run into the contradictions that make it impossible. The Christian version of god definitely doesn't exist, just like a square circle doesn't exist, but I can't say that about the Jewish version of god. For that type of god, I can only point out that there's a lack of any evidence for the god, so disbelief is the default state.
 

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We get it. _You_ believe in a certain god. Of course, that god can't exist, due to the contradictions of the omni-attributes.

That's why "which god" matters. For example, the Jewish version of god isn't assigned the omni-attributes, so it doesn't run into the contradictions that make it impossible. The Christian version of god definitely doesn't exist, just like a square circle doesn't exist, but I can't say that about the Jewish version of god. For that type of god, I can only point out that there's a lack of any evidence for the god, so disbelief is the default state.
This coming from an intellect that can't define what a woman is and thinks that men can get pregnant and who also thinks Joe Biden can't control inflation and the price of gas but can control the climate if only he can obtain enough tax money cuz taxation cures all our ills.

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Many atheists want to have proofs of God's existence.
In my opinion the information from below is one of the bests in internet
Also, guys, read, think about and ask God for forgiveness of your sins
And begin to read the Holy Bible

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Gods Existence-
I often get the ‚ÄúProve to me God exists‚ÄĚ question, usually from people who really do not desire any answers. However, there is occasionally a few who really want to know‚ĶThis info is based upon about 6 hours of condensed note taking‚ĶHopefully it will be instrumental in your ministry as well‚Ķ
Technically, ‚ÄúProof‚ÄĚ (like a picture or video tape) is non-existent any more than I can technically ‚Äúprove‚ÄĚ that Washington was president‚ĶThere are writings that can be cited that will support his presidency and are accepted as fact but technically I believe that Washington was president because I have read the accounts and writings of those present in that day who have documented the history and I believe what has been presented to me as fact. It is a given however, that History is MUCH different than Science.
I have had many of the same questions myself that people ask me concerning science and God. I am an analytical person and am not satisfied with only someone else‚Äôs experience and faith as a basis for my own beliefs. I believe that there is nothing wrong with faith, but blind faith without logical analysis or deductive reasoning can be very dangerous and even na√Įve in some circumstances. I have studied extensively on the subject of God‚Äôs existence and actually have a lot of material to reference (books, audio series, notes, etc)‚ĶSome of which is so deep that I don‚Äôt really understand it completely myself with examples dealing with Quantum Physics and such‚Ķbut in my studies I have never been diligent enough to write down or organize my notes‚ĶUntil now‚Ķ
I do not take credit for any of this material, most all of it is taken from my notes and personal recollection of information that I have listened to and read from several sources‚ĶSome of the commentary is mine, but nearly all of the information in this outline comes from an audio series titled Top Ten Proofs by a Detroit radio host named Bob Dutko. If you are interested in owning the audio CD teachings on this subject, they can be purchased at this web-site (www.toptenproofs.com). There are several other topics of study that he addresses in this series but much of the ‚Äúinfo‚ÄĚ below comes from his audio CD titled top 10 proofs of God‚Äôs Existence.
I wrote this info in outline form in an attempt to shorten it and still relay the content. The content is almost completely referencing scientific justifications for God‚Äôs existence and not simply ‚Äúfaith based‚ÄĚ revelation.
I believe, in order to establish any ‚Äúfaith‚ÄĚ in God, there must first be an understanding of TRUTH that there IS A GOD‚ĶIf a person has never had an ‚Äúexperience‚ÄĚ justifying that ‚Äútruth‚ÄĚ then, for many, there must be legitimate scientific evidence presented in order for faith to have a foundation on which to build‚ĶHopefully, this outline will be a basis for that.
So I start with the most simple of scientific questions:
What is science?
Science, by definition, is formulating a hypothesis or theory based upon observation, testing or the ability to make predictions.
I am convinced that a belief in God is, IN FACT, Scientific and that science DOES back up and prove that there is a God…Here are some of my reasoning’s for that belief system
1. The Scientific law ‚ÄďThe First Law of Thermodynamics‚Ķ
a. Scientific conservation of energy law which states that in the universe we have matter and energy and that matter or energy can be converted into each other but cannot be created from nothing. This law also states that matter or energy cannot be destroyed to the point where it ceases to exist, it can only take on different forms…
b. Now consider the entire universe and all of the matter and energy in it‚Ķif there is NO GOD‚Ķthen Scientifically, the universe cannot exist‚Ķotherwise it would be a violation of the first law of thermodynamics because science states that ‚Äúsomething‚ÄĚ in our universe and within the laws of science cannot come from ‚Äúnothing‚Ä̂ĶThis is the FIRST law of thermodynamics and all scientific law about matter and energy are based upon this first laws foundation.
c. The Big Bang theory does not support this law. Science has proven that the universe is expanding and theorize that everything came from a small ‚Äúdot‚ÄĚ of compressed matter which exploded into what is now our expanding universe‚ĶThe reason that they teach this theory and the fact that the universe came from the explosion of this compressed ‚ÄúDot‚ÄĚ is because of the first law of thermodynamics‚Ķwithout that compressed dot, the first law of thermodynamics collapses. But still, that theory is self defeating because the compressed ‚Äúdot‚ÄĚ that held the universe and exploded, still contradicts The First Law of Thermodynamics, because matter, regardless of how small or compact, according to scientific law, cannot come from nothing‚Ķ
2. The Second Law of Thermodynamics-
a. Scientific Heat law- which states that everything will move toward a state of equilibrium. For instance, take a cup of hot coffee and a cup of ice and set them together on the same table‚ĶAssuming there are no outside influences (which is called a ‚Äúclosed system‚ÄĚ in science and scientists who do not believe in God‚Äôs existence or influence would concur that the universe is a closed system), over time, both will equalize to the same temperature and reach a state of heat equilibrium.
b. Also within the Second Law of Thermodynamics is a principle that states that things move from order to chaos, degrade, become sloppier and ultimately move toward a state of entropy. A simple example of this is, if you were to have a stack of papers on your desk at work, as people walk by, and the wind blows, over time your desk will become messier as the papers slowly move from a state of order to mess, they will NEVER become straighter or neater over time as this would become a violation of the law of entropy within the second law of thermodynamics‚Ķwith this law understood scientifically, if there were no God, and the universe is a closed system with no outside influence, when the ‚Äúbig bang‚ÄĚ took place 15 billion years ago, the universe could not have gone from an explosion to order‚Ķthis argument violates scientific law‚ĶExplosions cannot turn into order scientifically.
i. Considering these first 2 laws, occasionally scientists who believe in a closed system will argue under the first law of thermodynamics that perhaps all the matter in the universe always existed‚ĶHowever, the second law of thermodynamics invalidates that theory because if everything in the universe always existed, we would no longer have disparity of heat in the universe. Over the course of ‚Äúforever‚ÄĚ we would have achieved heat death and everything in the universe would be the same temperature based upon the second law of thermodynamics‚ĶBut as we know, that is not the case in the universe‚Ķthere are stars that burn at different temperatures and galaxies with varying heats depending upon their distance from their star. We also see comets which are balls of icy matter existing in the same universe ‚Ķwhich are the equivalent of the hot coffee and ice cups on the same table‚Ķso they could not have been here forever because the second law of thermodynamics disproves that within a closed system without having reached a place of equilibrium by now not to mention the fact that the universe could not have reached this level of complexity from an explosion based upon the law of entropy within the second law of thermodynamics‚Ķ
3. Based upon scientific law, ‚ÄúLife cannot come from Non-life‚ÄĚ
a. This is called A-biogenesis and is unscientific.
i. Science, by definition, is formulating a hypothesis or theory based upon observation, testing or the ability to make predictions.
1. Discredit 1- Science is a hypothesis based upon observation- has anyone ever observed life coming into existence from non-life? The answer is no, it has never been observed in any laboratory in history.
2. Discredit 2- Is there any test that can be done that will produce life from non-life? The answer again is No.
3. Discredit 3- Is there any predictions that can be made that will produce life from non-life…Again, No…so based upon scientific law A-biogenesis is an unscientific hypothesis.
b. With this said, based upon the definition of science, the scientists who hold strongly to the belief that Life came from Non-life (a-biogenesis) are not being “scientific’ at all in their assessment of what they say they believe. But what seems even more controversial, is that they then accuse Christian beliefs of being unscientific.
c. Because life has NEVER came into being from non-life scientifically, believing that there is a God is in fact scientific because we know scientifically that the laws of science will not allow life to come from non-life. So it is a scientific conclusion that there must be a ‚Äúbeing‚ÄĚ capable of creating life from non-life.

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I like number 3. Life cannot come from non-life. So, God lives and has a body of flesh and bone. The only way where we are made in God's image. Joseph Smith was correct.
 

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Life cannot come from non-life.

Apparently, it can ...

"And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul".
 

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This coming from an intellect that can't define what a woman is and thinks that men can get pregnant and who also thinks Joe Biden can't control inflation and the price of gas but can control the climate if only he can obtain enough tax money cuz taxation cures all our ills.
The grownups are trying to talk. That means you should shut up.

We get it. You can't debate any liberal on any topic, and you know it. That's why you just make stupid shit up. There's no need to keep hammering on that point. Everyone on the board is already very aware of it.

Now, would you like to address the topic here, or will you just do more butthurt trolling?
 

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Apparently, it can ...

"And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul".
Did the dust form man or did God form man from the dust? So, again, life forms life. Two things: 1. God must therefore be living. 2. Dust is a metaphor for being born in this earth the natural way.
 

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Dust is a metaphor for being born in this earth the natural way.

The creation of carbon based organic molecules from available inorganic compounds.

What is often referred to as abiogenesis.
 

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Did the dust form man or did God form man from the dust? So, again, life forms life. Two things: 1. God must therefore be living. 2. Dust is a metaphor for being born in this earth the natural way.
Is there an unnatural way to be born into this world ?
 

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The creation of carbon based organic molecules from available inorganic compounds.

What is often referred to as abiogenesis.
The creation of carbon based organic molecules cannot be created on their own. All you have to do is look at the moon or Mars. or any other planet with carbon on it. How did the carbon molecules come together to form life? It can't happen on it's own nor has it ever. No evidence. So now, you are going to accept no evidence as evidence and yet attack believers who cannot give you physical and scientific evidence for God? Can't have it both ways.
 

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The creation of carbon based organic molecules cannot be created on their own. All you have to do is look at the moon or Mars. or any other planet with carbon on it. How did the carbon molecules come together to form life? It can't happen on it's own nor has it ever. No evidence. So now, you are going to accept no evidence as evidence and yet attack believers who cannot give you physical and scientific evidence for God? Can't have it both ways.
In the 2030s when mankind finally lands on Mars they will discover remnants of primitive life that existed before Mars lost its atmosphere.
 

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The creation of carbon based organic molecules from available inorganic compounds.

What is often referred to as abiogenesis.

physiology is a metaphysical substance not native to planet earth and will occur wherever conditions are conducive for its development to replicate and in sequence acquires a spiritual content that guides each component till they ultimately dissolving back into the atmosphere.
 

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physiology is a metaphysical substance not native to planet earth and will occur wherever conditions are conducive for its development to replicate and in sequence acquires a spiritual content that guides each component till they ultimately dissolving back into the atmosphere.
Interesting thoughts. Life is all about perception. What we perceive to exist is our reality. Now you're getting somewhere.
 

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