Tony Perkins: Evangelical support for Trump 'conditional' on campaign promises

[dcbl]

To me and what I have addressed in this thread is the hypocrisy of Trump's religious base who were more than happy to attack Clinton's and others morals but are ready to forgive Trump a repeated adulterer.

You made the point that you don't care about a politician's 'sins' as long as he supports policies you like. That's hypocrisy.

bullshit

my main point was that Trump's "immoral behavior" that has been alleged is ALL from before he was a candidate

I also said that forgiveness is a cornerstone of the Christian belief system

I asked, and I will ask again, how is forgiveness of behavior that is no longer being committed hypocritical?

Clinton continued his whoring.

Furthermore, I said that if it can be shown that Trump still does this & that is overlooked by evangelicals; then yes - that would be a worthy point

soooo...

since Trump has not been accused of sexual impropriety since he became a candidate, I do not see hypocrisy on this issue AND I said that if this does happen and those folks give him a pass; then that would indeed be hypocritical

what the hell else do you want?

 

[dcbl]

You are the usual hypocrite ..

In 1998, he wrote to Bill Clinton

• "As it turns out, character does matter. You can't run a family, let alone a country, without it. How foolish to believe that a person who lacks honesty and moral integrity is qualified to lead a nation and the world!"
• "I just don't understand it. Why aren't parents more concerned about what their children are hearing about the president's behavior? Are moms and dads not embarrassed by what is occurring?"
• "I am left to conclude from these opinions that our greatest problem is not in the Oval Office. It is with the people of this land! We have lost our ability to discern the difference between right and wrong."

Indeed, Mr. Dobson.

Indeed.

different evangelical

showing outrage over Clinton's actions while POTUS

willing to forgive actions from someone committed before he was bound to the public trust

how do you not see the difference?

 

[dcbl]

Next... your argument fails..and are just Cherry Picking Forgiveness when it suits your party..

no

defining actions made as an elected official as more troublesome than actions made by a private citizen

 

[HappyJoy]

To me and what I have addressed in this thread is the hypocrisy of Trump's religious base who were more than happy to attack Clinton's and others morals but are ready to forgive Trump a repeated adulterer.

You made the point that you don't care about a politician's 'sins' as long as he supports policies you like. That's hypocrisy.

bullshit

my main point was that Trump's "immoral behavior" that has been alleged is ALL from before he was a candidate

Paying a porn star $130,000 in hush money is immoral, I can't imagine Christ wouldn't consider that to be a form of lying. So, why are Christians forgiving Trump who hasn't even accepted his own responsibility?

 

[eddiew37]

So what is the problem?

a group of Americans will support the president and overlook his personal shortcomings as long as his policies and actions are in line with their goals?

It was good enough for democrats with Clinton and with Kennedy

Explain to me why I should be outraged

Why because this pussy grabber and all he stands for flies in the face of everything hypocrite christians and evangelicals believe in

 

[Eaglewings]

You are the usual hypocrite ..

In 1998, he wrote to Bill Clinton

• "As it turns out, character does matter. You can't run a family, let alone a country, without it. How foolish to believe that a person who lacks honesty and moral integrity is qualified to lead a nation and the world!"
• "I just don't understand it. Why aren't parents more concerned about what their children are hearing about the president's behavior? Are moms and dads not embarrassed by what is occurring?"
• "I am left to conclude from these opinions that our greatest problem is not in the Oval Office. It is with the people of this land! We have lost our ability to discern the difference between right and wrong."

Indeed, Mr. Dobson.

Indeed.

different evangelical

showing outrage over Clinton's actions while POTUS

willing to forgive actions from someone committed before he was bound to the public trust

how do you not see the difference?

Did you read the letter..?

Go back and reread it.. who cares if he was or was not president then..it says much about his character.

I don't see Trump getting on his knees asking for forgiveness..lol.. I don't see him reaching out to James Dobson..

It is all a political ploy to get the dumb extreme right wing christian back on board..and you know it. so stop.


.

 

[eddiew37]

1 - This topic is not about Clinton or Kennedy. Keep on focus.

left wingers have been more than happy to overlook personal moral shortcomings of candidates & you are pushing a discussion that claims that right wingers are "morally reprehensible" because they are willing to overlook personal moral shortcomings

don't be such a hypocrite

the correct answer is that the outrage over this is pure bullshit

Maybe after trump is through you can get Steve Wynn to run He and trump both fit repubs style ,,,,vile lying pos

 

[dcbl]

Paying a porn star $130,000 in hush money is immoral, I can't imagine Christ wouldn't consider that to be a form of lying. So, why are Christians forgiving Trump who hasn't even accepted his own responsibility?

to date, the porn star in question has denied receiving any payments

that may change, but to date, we are dealing with rumors

about an affair that would have been years before Trump was a candidate

#yawn

 

[dcbl]

it must be exhausting being a leftist

constantly feigning outrage over shit that is not outrageous...

 

[eddiew37]

Paying a porn star $130,000 in hush money is immoral, I can't imagine Christ wouldn't consider that to be a form of lying. So, why are Christians forgiving Trump who hasn't even accepted his own responsibility?

to date, the porn star in question has denied receiving any payments

that may change, but to date, we are dealing with rumors

about an affair that would have been years before Trump was a candidate

#yawn

she was asked She refused to answer

 

[HappyJoy]

Paying a porn star $130,000 in hush money is immoral, I can't imagine Christ wouldn't consider that to be a form of lying. So, why are Christians forgiving Trump who hasn't even accepted his own responsibility?

to date, the porn star in question has denied receiving any payments

that may change, but to date, we are dealing with rumors

about an affair that would have been years before Trump was a candidate

#yawn

Stormy Daniels denied receiving payments? I'm not aware of that, have a link?

She also said quite a bit about their affair in 2011, #genericsex.

Once again, $130k in 2016 right before the election.

 

[Flash]

Libtard Moon Bat support for that asshole Obama was only based upon him being Black. Nothing else matter.

Libtard Moon Bat support for that piece of shit Crooked Hillary was based upon her having a "D" by her name. Nothing else mattered.

 

[dcbl]

Stormy Daniels denied receiving payments? I'm not aware of that, have a link?

the only reports are from 2nd hand sources & statements put out by lawyers

she has not confirmed any payment - the denial I saw was from a lawyer

that may change soon

and I don't care

I doubt that this will hurt Trump either

 

[eddiew37]

Libtard Moon Bat support for that asshole Obama was only based upon him being Black. Nothing else matter.

Libtard Moon Bat support for that piece of shit Crooked Hillary was based upon her having a "D" by her name. Nothing else mattered.

so now you're getting even with us by electing and protecting the lowest piece of turd in your party??? a vile sos?

 

[HappyJoy]

and I don't care

That was really all you had to say, and it's predictable.

 

[dcbl]

and I don't care

That was really all you had to say, and it's predictable.

aren't you cute

do you care?

really?

do you really care what some whore says?

or is this just about being happy that something is out there that is unhelpful to Trump....

 

[HappyJoy]

and I don't care

That was really all you had to say, and it's predictable.

aren't you cute

do you care?

really?

do you really care what some whore says?

or is this just about being happy that something is out there that is unhelpful to Trump....

We were talking about the hypocrisy of the religious right, remember?