Maryland Patriot
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sounds like just another run of the mill chip on her shoulder negro to me.
Toni Morrison: Fear Of Losing White Privilege Led To Trump’s Election
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emilynghiem
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Dear@NYcarbineer
It depends who the Democrat is.
I consider myself having some of this " White Privilege "
as a college graduate who understands the property and law
issue of monopoly over knowledge that is separating rich and poor into classes.
Half the time I have voted for Sheila Jackson Lee, other times if
there was a Green or other Candidate I thought deserved support,
I would take turns and vote for Green and Libertarian to encourage
greater participation and reward those who do push themselves.
I cannot vote for people (like Obama and Clinton)
who teach "dependence on govt and party leaders getting elected"
in order to "push agenda through govt" but support people, many being Greens, who
teach build it yourself models of grassroots community development independent of govt.
However, I totally supported the Obama voters and supporters in taking on responsibility
for "being the change they wanted to see in govt" although they kept waiting on Obama.
I support Clinton and Sanders supporters, who have a better chance of organizing this,
in part because more of the EDUCATED professors, students and experienced activists
have more of this so called "White Privilege" to use to lead and organize others.
I do more "voting" for Democratic and Green principles by supporting
people in action. These concepts aren't represented in govt by any kind
of top down model of mgmt, but are developed community by community from the grassroots up to the top.
They can be taught in public by figures like Paul Glover or Ralph Nader getting more public exposure
for the ideas they have been teaching and training people to develop.
But the work has to be done by the people, there are no shortcuts to owning and managing it yourself.
We can speed up the learning curve by setting up mentorships and microlending business networks
so people can access and share the training to gain firsthand experience on the ground level
then work their way up.
see Introducing HOUR Money or www.paulglover.org
Grameen Foundation | Connecting the World's Poor to Their Potential
http://www.paceuniversal.org
What happened to Architecture For Humanity?
The first two years after Obama took office he did what? That's right, obamadon'tcare and a bunch of promised shovel ready jobs that weren't.
emilynghiem
Constitutionalist / Universalist
Dear Clementine
Did it ever occur to you that each person, each group is "naturally better" in some areas
than others, so every group can equally credit themselves in this way, because each
has something unique to offer to humanity?
My bf jokes how I fit the Asian stereotypes of
being good with math and numbers, but sucking at directions.
So FU what.
Aren't all people like that, and all groups too since these are collections of people.
For everything we excel in, there is something we have to hire out to someone else and not bother!!!
Aren't people relatively equal in that sense, with as many
plusses as minusses, strengths and weaknesses.
Why can't we take the BEST that each has to offer.
And quit competing and turning that into some kind of bullying piss contest??
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Black privilege is the only reason idiots like Morrison aren't begging for change on the side of the street.
“The comfort of being ‘naturally better than’ is hard to give up.”
Toni Morrison has written a powerful essay in the aftermath of Donald Trump’s election as president of the United States, and it gets right to the heart of why Trump won.
In a piece titled “Mourning For Whiteness” from the November 21 print issue of the New Yorker (published online Monday), the Pulitzer Prize-winning novelist argues that Trump won due to the terror of privileged white men in the face of a rapidly diversifying country.
“Under slave laws, ...!
I stopped reading here. **** you Toni.
And **** the Pulitzer Prize committee and everything they stand for while we are at it.
Quoting "slave laws" in relation to our recent election isn't a valid issue, it's fighting words..
“The comfort of being ‘naturally better than’ is hard to give up.”
Toni Morrison has written a powerful essay in the aftermath of Donald Trump’s election as president of the United States, and it gets right to the heart of why Trump won.
In a piece titled “Mourning For Whiteness” from the November 21 print issue of the New Yorker (published online Monday), the Pulitzer Prize-winning novelist argues that Trump won due to the terror of privileged white men in the face of a rapidly diversifying country.
“Under slave laws, the necessity for color rankings was obvious, but in America today, post-civil-rights legislation, white people’s conviction of their natural superiority is being lost,” Morrison writes.
“There are ‘people of color’ everywhere, threatening to erase this long-understood definition of America. And what then? Another black President? A predominantly black Senate? Three black Supreme Court Justices? The threat is frightening.”
As Morrison explains it, the subconscious fear of losing the “comfort of being naturally better than,” the comfort of not being followed in a department store for instance, was a huge motivator for many White Americans.
Morrison argues that white Americans and particularly white men are so afraid of the collapse of white privilege that they “flocked to a political platform that supports and translates violence against the defenseless as strength.”
She concludes:
On Election Day, how eagerly so many white voters—both the poorly educated and the well educated—embraced the shame and fear sowed by Donald Trump. The candidate whose company has been sued by the Justice Department for not renting apartments to black people. The candidate who questioned whether Barack Obama was born in the United States, and who seemed to condone the beating of a Black Lives Matter protester at a campaign rally. The candidate who kept black workers off the floors of his casinos. The candidate who is beloved by David Duke and endorsed by the Ku Klux Klan.
Morrison’s take on the election is one that has been echoed by many other commentators, including Van Jones, who described it as a “whitelash against a changing country.” As the uptick in hate crimes across the country and Trump’s appointment of controversial figures like Steve Bannon to his cabinet continues, it becomes clearer and clearer and clearer that race most definitely played a role in this election.
Read the full essay at The New Yorker.
Toni Morrison: Fear Of Losing White Privilege Led To Trump's Election
Amen! I couldn't agree more!
go back to your play dough and puppy therapy. things are not well in never never land are they>?
Clementine
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You should be directing this elsewhere, like maybe ask Ms. Morrison to stop pissing herself over some misconceptions that have been adopted as legitimate grievances.
She said that whites are naturally better. At what?
There are some stereotypes, such as Asians being better at math. Has nothing to do with ethnicity and everything to do with the fact that many Asian schools focus on real education and more is expected of the students. It's part of the culture of personal responsibility and respect. I'm betting they don't have safe spaces for differing opinions, either.
What this woman is saying is just another roundabout way of accusing whites of racism simply by virtue of their skin color. What do minority children think when they hear that whites are naturally better at things? Maybe decades of hearing the message that they are somehow lesser beings has given them a false view of the world. Maybe it'll stop them from trying because they'll think it's pointless.
This woman is doing a great disservice to minorities and I would implore them not to buy into this.
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Thank God! Without the good patriots who obstructed Obama there would likely be no country left now!
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There is no "white privilege."
We just create better countries with more opportunity. That's why the dark races all want in our countries.
We just create better countries with more opportunity. That's why the dark races all want in our countries.
Careful Emilyngheim, your Marxist side is showing.Lakota, I'm going to be lazy tonight and not read all the messages regarding this post and address directly, the topic of "white-privilege" fears. Contrary to what Toni Morrison
“The comfort of being ‘naturally better than’ is hard to give up.”
Toni Morrison has written a powerful essay in the aftermath of Donald Trump’s election as president of the United States, and it gets right to the heart of why Trump won.
In a piece titled “Mourning For Whiteness” from the November 21 print issue of the New Yorker (published online Monday), the Pulitzer Prize-winning novelist argues that Trump won due to the terror of privileged white men in the face of a rapidly diversifying country.
“Under slave laws, the necessity for color rankings was obvious, but in America today, post-civil-rights legislation, white people’s conviction of their natural superiority is being lost,” Morrison writes.
“There are ‘people of color’ everywhere, threatening to erase this long-understood definition of America. And what then? Another black President? A predominantly black Senate? Three black Supreme Court Justices? The threat is frightening.”
As Morrison explains it, the subconscious fear of losing the “comfort of being naturally better than,” the comfort of not being followed in a department store for instance, was a huge motivator for many White Americans.
Morrison argues that white Americans and particularly white men are so afraid of the collapse of white privilege that they “flocked to a political platform that supports and translates violence against the defenseless as strength.”
She concludes:
On Election Day, how eagerly so many white voters—both the poorly educated and the well educated—embraced the shame and fear sowed by Donald Trump. The candidate whose company has been sued by the Justice Department for not renting apartments to black people. The candidate who questioned whether Barack Obama was born in the United States, and who seemed to condone the beating of a Black Lives Matter protester at a campaign rally. The candidate who kept black workers off the floors of his casinos. The candidate who is beloved by David Duke and endorsed by the Ku Klux Klan.
Morrison’s take on the election is one that has been echoed by many other commentators, including Van Jones, who described it as a “whitelash against a changing country.” As the uptick in hate crimes across the country and Trump’s appointment of controversial figures like Steve Bannon to his cabinet continues, it becomes clearer and clearer and clearer that race most definitely played a role in this election.
Read the full essay at The New Yorker.
Toni Morrison: Fear Of Losing White Privilege Led To Trump's Election
Amen! I couldn't agree more!
Lakota, I'm going be lazy tonight and ignore the various responses and go directly to the main topic you presented.
“The comfort of being ‘naturally better than’ is hard to give up.”
Toni Morrison has written a powerful essay in the aftermath of Donald Trump’s election as president of the United States, and it gets right to the heart of why Trump won.
In a piece titled “Mourning For Whiteness” from the November 21 print issue of the New Yorker (published online Monday), the Pulitzer Prize-winning novelist argues that Trump won due to the terror of privileged white men in the face of a rapidly diversifying country.
“Under slave laws, the necessity for color rankings was obvious, but in America today, post-civil-rights legislation, white people’s conviction of their natural superiority is being lost,” Morrison writes.
“There are ‘people of color’ everywhere, threatening to erase this long-understood definition of America. And what then? Another black President? A predominantly black Senate? Three black Supreme Court Justices? The threat is frightening.”
As Morrison explains it, the subconscious fear of losing the “comfort of being naturally better than,” the comfort of not being followed in a department store for instance, was a huge motivator for many White Americans.
Morrison argues that white Americans and particularly white men are so afraid of the collapse of white privilege that they “flocked to a political platform that supports and translates violence against the defenseless as strength.”
She concludes:
On Election Day, how eagerly so many white voters—both the poorly educated and the well educated—embraced the shame and fear sowed by Donald Trump. The candidate whose company has been sued by the Justice Department for not renting apartments to black people. The candidate who questioned whether Barack Obama was born in the United States, and who seemed to condone the beating of a Black Lives Matter protester at a campaign rally. The candidate who kept black workers off the floors of his casinos. The candidate who is beloved by David Duke and endorsed by the Ku Klux Klan.
Morrison’s take on the election is one that has been echoed by many other commentators, including Van Jones, who described it as a “whitelash against a changing country.” As the uptick in hate crimes across the country and Trump’s appointment of controversial figures like Steve Bannon to his cabinet continues, it becomes clearer and clearer and clearer that race most definitely played a role in this election.
Read the full essay at The New Yorker.
Toni Morrison: Fear Of Losing White Privilege Led To Trump's Election
Amen! I couldn't agree more!
Toni Morrison is wrong in her assertion in two things:
1. That whites somehow have "white-privilege."
2. That whites were in fear of losing their fictional white-privileges.
No one I have personally known had any privileges, all have had to start at the bottom of any jobs they obtained, worked hard and scraped their way up, if they stayed with the job they had, if they even had jobs. All around the area I'm presently at, I have yet to see anyone of color standing on a corner with a cardboard sign, it would seem that it is exclusively the "privileged-whites" that have that honor. You can't be in fear of what you don't have.
Evangelicals, Catholics, Baptists, Hindus, Sikhs, other religious organization members, farmers, et cetera, voted for Trump in large numbers because they saw what was happening to Europe with its "open-border" policy. Riots, large numbers of rapes where almost none occurred in the past, no-go zones where even law enforcement is afraid to enter, the future destruction of centuries of cultures and heritage. They see the handwriting on the wall for Europe, which will eventually become Islamic Theocracies, run by religious clerics, not voters (history has shown what happens to nations that open their homes and lands to Islamists (Lebanon). Turkey, once a beacon for being a secular Muslim nation, is now purging itself of secular people and replacing them with Islamists.
Inner-city blacks, Hispanics and "whites" who have difficulty getting jobs are desperate for a candidate who insists that changes will come and jobs will follow. They are aware of how NAFTA destroyed their jobs. People (black and white) in previous mining communities have not recovered from the shutdown of the mines and voted for Trump because he assured them he would get them working again (personally, I believe they just need retraining into other occupations).
So, there's no "white-privilege" and as such their is no fear of whites losing what they don't have.
The far left has been trying to gradually inch us into a Marxist ideology whereby those who think and speak freely, must speak only what the far left allows them to say or, be oppressed and once Marxism takes over, be persecuted and worse.
Dear LuckyDuck Maryland Patriot and others who don't se e or invoke White Privilege:
The white privilege I have se en perpetuate imbalance in economics and govt and law
1. the CLASS division betwe en teaching people EMPOWERMENT
and EQUAL AUTHORITY through law, either using the CONSTITUTION or CHRISTIAN law to
give power back to the people to live by and enforced laws DIRECLTY through word and action
Not all people have this
My Democrat and liberal friends who don't have Christian/Constitutional faith
SUFFER a SEVERE imbalance in power and representation
against Christians and Constitutionalists who DO INVOKE THIS AUTHORITY
by knowledge and exercising/enforcing laws both individually and collective as a group!
2. LACK of ownership/experience with PROPERTY and BUSINESS management,
financial and credit access and resources/support.
BIG FACTOR in the race issue: because Blacks were deprived of property ownership
and only in the past century quit being treated as property themselves.
Now the voters are still treated as field slaves begging and competing for
favors granted to house slaves that kiss up to the corporate masters.
this is still going on: dividing the rich blaming the po or from
the poor blaming the rich, when the issue is really WHO on BOTH SIDES
has been abusing public money, authority and resources to scam ALL TAXPAYERS
and hiding behind the fingerpointing game, always blaming the other side,
in order to get away with these abuses without check.
There are other areas but these two are key
to ending this whole class war blamed on White Privilege.
And yes it is tied to Europeans imposing and following LINEAR systems of law
passing property and control down the Patrilineal side of their families and estates.
which explains the SEXISM going on, backlash again "white males"
The collective cultures of the African/Latin/Asian communities
put more emphasis on relations between individual and collective identity as a whole.
So by divide and conquer, this keep groups from representing their interests collectively.
the shared responsibility approach is what we can use to break out of these patterns
of tribal competition for turf and control.
The Constitution that you say you and your followers share no faith in, is the reason millions of the poor "huddle-masses" came here, so that they no longer had to endure the persecution they suffered in their original home nations.
If your idea is to push toward a Marxist government, those who think about it only have to study what Communist governments do to those who don't wish to live under its oppression. People who want to be free and try to cross out of Communist nation borders are shot in the attempt. People who want to field their own candidates are rounded up and either sent to "re-education" camps or disappear altogether. Communist governments don't allow you to choose your own candidates, they choose for you. In communist countries, you have to be very careful what you say, or an assigned neighborhood watch representative reports you if he or she hears you say something negative.
No nation is perfect and all nations have had slavery and oppression at some point in their history.
The Constitution is probably the best governing document presently in existence. It allows its citizens, regardless of color, the opportunity to be free (short of anarchy), speak freely and find their own path in life.
As to class divides, there is no doubt it exists, but the alternative is for all (excluding the very powerful in government) to live without freedom, oppressed by an authoritarian government, whether communist, military junta, theocracy, or despotic ruler.
emilynghiem
Constitutionalist / Universalist
Dear Clementine
If we address White as a culture, it is a cultural pattern that people of euro descent and cultural background tend to be more linear in communicating which helps with business contracts. It could be the English language is linear and structure, and there is a link between language and perception.
The African Asian and Latin cultiral backgrounds tend to process and communicate things more "holistically" in relations with others collectively. This pattern is good for a sense of connectedness to others and nature that can be lost by taking the individualism to an extreme which is emphasized in Western culture.
It's Good to have a sense of self first when it comes to being responsible for one's own success or failure. But it falls apart when corporate heads only worry about their bottom line and don't count the cost to society and environment in their budgets.
The collective approach is better for cooperative economics and putting the whole above the need of th email individual. But it's weak if everyone waits for everyone else and doesn't feel authorized to act independently of the group.
So both have strong points or weak points.
emilynghiem
Constitutionalist / Universalist
Dear LuckyDuck I put Constitutional principles first where any other system can be followed freely by people who choose that. So if we all respect each other's choices of how to operate, it doesn't matter if one group is anarchist one is socialist or communist one is democratic one is Republic or monarchy type set up. If it's what you believe enough to make it work, that's great; but don't impose systems on each other.Careful Emilyngheim, your Marxist side is showing.Lakota, I'm going to be lazy tonight and not read all the messages regarding this post and address directly, the topic of "white-privilege" fears. Contrary to what Toni Morrison
“The comfort of being ‘naturally better than’ is hard to give up.”
Toni Morrison has written a powerful essay in the aftermath of Donald Trump’s election as president of the United States, and it gets right to the heart of why Trump won.
In a piece titled “Mourning For Whiteness” from the November 21 print issue of the New Yorker (published online Monday), the Pulitzer Prize-winning novelist argues that Trump won due to the terror of privileged white men in the face of a rapidly diversifying country.
“Under slave laws, the necessity for color rankings was obvious, but in America today, post-civil-rights legislation, white people’s conviction of their natural superiority is being lost,” Morrison writes.
“There are ‘people of color’ everywhere, threatening to erase this long-understood definition of America. And what then? Another black President? A predominantly black Senate? Three black Supreme Court Justices? The threat is frightening.”
As Morrison explains it, the subconscious fear of losing the “comfort of being naturally better than,” the comfort of not being followed in a department store for instance, was a huge motivator for many White Americans.
Morrison argues that white Americans and particularly white men are so afraid of the collapse of white privilege that they “flocked to a political platform that supports and translates violence against the defenseless as strength.”
She concludes:
On Election Day, how eagerly so many white voters—both the poorly educated and the well educated—embraced the shame and fear sowed by Donald Trump. The candidate whose company has been sued by the Justice Department for not renting apartments to black people. The candidate who questioned whether Barack Obama was born in the United States, and who seemed to condone the beating of a Black Lives Matter protester at a campaign rally. The candidate who kept black workers off the floors of his casinos. The candidate who is beloved by David Duke and endorsed by the Ku Klux Klan.
Morrison’s take on the election is one that has been echoed by many other commentators, including Van Jones, who described it as a “whitelash against a changing country.” As the uptick in hate crimes across the country and Trump’s appointment of controversial figures like Steve Bannon to his cabinet continues, it becomes clearer and clearer and clearer that race most definitely played a role in this election.
Read the full essay at The New Yorker.
Toni Morrison: Fear Of Losing White Privilege Led To Trump's Election
Amen! I couldn't agree more!
Lakota, I'm going be lazy tonight and ignore the various responses and go directly to the main topic you presented.
“The comfort of being ‘naturally better than’ is hard to give up.”
Toni Morrison has written a powerful essay in the aftermath of Donald Trump’s election as president of the United States, and it gets right to the heart of why Trump won.
In a piece titled “Mourning For Whiteness” from the November 21 print issue of the New Yorker (published online Monday), the Pulitzer Prize-winning novelist argues that Trump won due to the terror of privileged white men in the face of a rapidly diversifying country.
“Under slave laws, the necessity for color rankings was obvious, but in America today, post-civil-rights legislation, white people’s conviction of their natural superiority is being lost,” Morrison writes.
“There are ‘people of color’ everywhere, threatening to erase this long-understood definition of America. And what then? Another black President? A predominantly black Senate? Three black Supreme Court Justices? The threat is frightening.”
As Morrison explains it, the subconscious fear of losing the “comfort of being naturally better than,” the comfort of not being followed in a department store for instance, was a huge motivator for many White Americans.
Morrison argues that white Americans and particularly white men are so afraid of the collapse of white privilege that they “flocked to a political platform that supports and translates violence against the defenseless as strength.”
She concludes:
On Election Day, how eagerly so many white voters—both the poorly educated and the well educated—embraced the shame and fear sowed by Donald Trump. The candidate whose company has been sued by the Justice Department for not renting apartments to black people. The candidate who questioned whether Barack Obama was born in the United States, and who seemed to condone the beating of a Black Lives Matter protester at a campaign rally. The candidate who kept black workers off the floors of his casinos. The candidate who is beloved by David Duke and endorsed by the Ku Klux Klan.
Morrison’s take on the election is one that has been echoed by many other commentators, including Van Jones, who described it as a “whitelash against a changing country.” As the uptick in hate crimes across the country and Trump’s appointment of controversial figures like Steve Bannon to his cabinet continues, it becomes clearer and clearer and clearer that race most definitely played a role in this election.
Read the full essay at The New Yorker.
Toni Morrison: Fear Of Losing White Privilege Led To Trump's Election
Amen! I couldn't agree more!
Toni Morrison is wrong in her assertion in two things:
1. That whites somehow have "white-privilege."
2. That whites were in fear of losing their fictional white-privileges.
No one I have personally known had any privileges, all have had to start at the bottom of any jobs they obtained, worked hard and scraped their way up, if they stayed with the job they had, if they even had jobs. All around the area I'm presently at, I have yet to see anyone of color standing on a corner with a cardboard sign, it would seem that it is exclusively the "privileged-whites" that have that honor. You can't be in fear of what you don't have.
Evangelicals, Catholics, Baptists, Hindus, Sikhs, other religious organization members, farmers, et cetera, voted for Trump in large numbers because they saw what was happening to Europe with its "open-border" policy. Riots, large numbers of rapes where almost none occurred in the past, no-go zones where even law enforcement is afraid to enter, the future destruction of centuries of cultures and heritage. They see the handwriting on the wall for Europe, which will eventually become Islamic Theocracies, run by religious clerics, not voters (history has shown what happens to nations that open their homes and lands to Islamists (Lebanon). Turkey, once a beacon for being a secular Muslim nation, is now purging itself of secular people and replacing them with Islamists.
Inner-city blacks, Hispanics and "whites" who have difficulty getting jobs are desperate for a candidate who insists that changes will come and jobs will follow. They are aware of how NAFTA destroyed their jobs. People (black and white) in previous mining communities have not recovered from the shutdown of the mines and voted for Trump because he assured them he would get them working again (personally, I believe they just need retraining into other occupations).
So, there's no "white-privilege" and as such their is no fear of whites losing what they don't have.
The far left has been trying to gradually inch us into a Marxist ideology whereby those who think and speak freely, must speak only what the far left allows them to say or, be oppressed and once Marxism takes over, be persecuted and worse.
Dear LuckyDuck Maryland Patriot and others who don't se e or invoke White Privilege:
The white privilege I have se en perpetuate imbalance in economics and govt and law
1. the CLASS division betwe en teaching people EMPOWERMENT
and EQUAL AUTHORITY through law, either using the CONSTITUTION or CHRISTIAN law to
give power back to the people to live by and enforced laws DIRECLTY through word and action
Not all people have this
My Democrat and liberal friends who don't have Christian/Constitutional faith
SUFFER a SEVERE imbalance in power and representation
against Christians and Constitutionalists who DO INVOKE THIS AUTHORITY
by knowledge and exercising/enforcing laws both individually and collective as a group!
2. LACK of ownership/experience with PROPERTY and BUSINESS management,
financial and credit access and resources/support.
BIG FACTOR in the race issue: because Blacks were deprived of property ownership
and only in the past century quit being treated as property themselves.
Now the voters are still treated as field slaves begging and competing for
favors granted to house slaves that kiss up to the corporate masters.
this is still going on: dividing the rich blaming the po or from
the poor blaming the rich, when the issue is really WHO on BOTH SIDES
has been abusing public money, authority and resources to scam ALL TAXPAYERS
and hiding behind the fingerpointing game, always blaming the other side,
in order to get away with these abuses without check.
There are other areas but these two are key
to ending this whole class war blamed on White Privilege.
And yes it is tied to Europeans imposing and following LINEAR systems of law
passing property and control down the Patrilineal side of their families and estates.
which explains the SEXISM going on, backlash again "white males"
The collective cultures of the African/Latin/Asian communities
put more emphasis on relations between individual and collective identity as a whole.
So by divide and conquer, this keep groups from representing their interests collectively.
the shared responsibility approach is what we can use to break out of these patterns
of tribal competition for turf and control.
The Constitution that you say you and your followers share no faith in, is the reason millions of the poor "huddle-masses" came here, so that they no longer had to endure the persecution they suffered in their original home nations.
If your idea is to push toward a Marxist government, those who think about it only have to study what Communist governments do to those who don't wish to live under its oppression. People who want to be free and try to cross out of Communist nation borders are shot in the attempt. People who want to field their own candidates are rounded up and either sent to "re-education" camps or disappear altogether. Communist governments don't allow you to choose your own candidates, they choose for you. In communist countries, you have to be very careful what you say, or an assigned neighborhood watch representative reports you if he or she hears you say something negative.
No nation is perfect and all nations have had slavery and oppression at some point in their history.
The Constitution is probably the best governing document presently in existence. It allows its citizens, regardless of color, the opportunity to be free (short of anarchy), speak freely and find their own path in life.
As to class divides, there is no doubt it exists, but the alternative is for all (excluding the very powerful in government) to live without freedom, oppressed by an authoritarian government, whether communist, military junta, theocracy, or despotic ruler.
Same with Marxism or other socially or collectively focused systems. Just like Buddhism, veganism, universalism, liberalism, conservatism. You pick your affiliation and practice it freely, but by the same Constitutional respect for equal freedoms of others, don't impose your way on every one else and expect them to pay tithes to your leaders of your choice of practice!
BTW the real Marxist couple I met used Constitutional arguments to compel the city of Tomball to change their policy where public bldgs could not be used for a group like the KKK that had restrictions discriminating by race and excluding members of the public from attending an otherwise public event.
So they not only believe as I do in respecting free choice of beliefs, but used Constitutional laws to check govt. That's more than I have seen Democrats do who claim to respect diversity and minority interests.
My point is you can be a practicing Marxist and Constitutionalist respecting beliefs of others. I've seen real Marxists do both without conflict because they don't go around imposing their beliefs on others.
As for me I believe in equal empowerment and responsibilities for govt which is isocracy or isonomy, and it's up to each person or group to organize their own means of Representation and governing their resources. Just like running your own church program where it's voluntary to participate and fund.
For govt, I believe in consent of the governed, equal protection of the laws, and no taxation without representation.
I think those are universal values that apply to all people and groups, but again it's up to people to enforce these to be consistent. If it's coerced against people free will, that's not by consent of the governed so it's not a lawfully enforceable contract if people don't agree to live by it and will not be sustainable. Laws should be written and enforced by consent to be stable and consistent standards.
Just human nature and common sense to me, but people have to decide on their own what they believe in or it won't work anyway.
JimBowie1958
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“The comfort of being ‘naturally better than’ is hard to give up.”
Toni Morrison has written a powerful essay in the aftermath of Donald Trump’s election as president of the United States, and it gets right to the heart of why Trump won.
In a piece titled “Mourning For Whiteness” from the November 21 print issue of the New Yorker (published online Monday), the Pulitzer Prize-winning novelist argues that Trump won due to the terror of privileged white men in the face of a rapidly diversifying country.
“Under slave laws, the necessity for color rankings was obvious, but in America today, post-civil-rights legislation, white people’s conviction of their natural superiority is being lost,” Morrison writes.
“There are ‘people of color’ everywhere, threatening to erase this long-understood definition of America. And what then? Another black President? A predominantly black Senate? Three black Supreme Court Justices? The threat is frightening.”
As Morrison explains it, the subconscious fear of losing the “comfort of being naturally better than,” the comfort of not being followed in a department store for instance, was a huge motivator for many White Americans.
Morrison argues that white Americans and particularly white men are so afraid of the collapse of white privilege that they “flocked to a political platform that supports and translates violence against the defenseless as strength.”
She concludes:
On Election Day, how eagerly so many white voters—both the poorly educated and the well educated—embraced the shame and fear sowed by Donald Trump. The candidate whose company has been sued by the Justice Department for not renting apartments to black people. The candidate who questioned whether Barack Obama was born in the United States, and who seemed to condone the beating of a Black Lives Matter protester at a campaign rally. The candidate who kept black workers off the floors of his casinos. The candidate who is beloved by David Duke and endorsed by the Ku Klux Klan.
Morrison’s take on the election is one that has been echoed by many other commentators, including Van Jones, who described it as a “whitelash against a changing country.” As the uptick in hate crimes across the country and Trump’s appointment of controversial figures like Steve Bannon to his cabinet continues, it becomes clearer and clearer and clearer that race most definitely played a role in this election.
Read the full essay at The New Yorker.
Toni Morrison: Fear Of Losing White Privilege Led To Trump's Election
Amen! I couldn't agree more!
JimBowie1958
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Sounds like cultural appropriation to me.
Dreadnaught1968
Oh crap!
So how many minorities did the Democrat party have running for President in 2016? Anyone?
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