Today's lesson on "Birthright Citizenship". NO EUROPEAN COUNTRY ALLOWS IT.

[Unkotare]

... Too many filthy ungrateful ******* foreigners have fucked good real core Americans for too long…...

So get the **** out, LOSER.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Good luck with that, tough guy.

What’s “tough” about wanting to live in a clean, safe, productive English speaking likeminded community?

 

[Unkotare]

You belong to the same country that your parents are from.

What if your parents are from different countries?

 

[Unkotare]

What’s “tough” about wanting to live in a clean, safe, productive English speaking likeminded community?

What’s “tough” about wanting to live in a clean, safe, productive English speaking likeminded community?

There is NOTHING tough about you.

 

[Dante]

Birthright citizenship was meant for freed slaves
It was never meant for illegal border crosser welfare moochers

and America was not meant for people like you

see?

we call as post like douchegbags if we imitate you

 

[Dante]

You need to have a job to get vacation time.

Your Majesty!

Honored we are indeed.

So kind of you to show up here amongst the lowly hoi polloi.

 

[Dante]

There is NOTHING tough about you.

 

[marvin martian]

Must be the 20th time this has been posted.

Maybe you'll catch on after 25?

 

[d0gbreath]

What’s “tough” about wanting to live in a clean, safe, productive English speaking likeminded community?

The nuggies.

 

[toobfreak]

Yes, they had the power to do that in 1868.

And I feel certain that SCOTUS will again overrule birthright, end anchor babies and Trump will win this. I've heard it explained by legal experts and it should be an open and shut slam-dunk case.

There was not and is not a Constitutional specifically addressing abortion. There is no connection between RvW and this discussion.

Except that just as RvW was long thought the ironclad law of the land, so is the 14th, at least for now.
Winning birthright citizenship is key to solving the immigration problem.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

The rules should require you to be able to verify a statement like that with credible evidence.

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When they can't verify their "statements", they simply lose credibility and get laughed at a lot.


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[White 6]

You have to trust somebody or else you're a hermit. I don't want to be a hermit. So I will trust those who deserve it and will not trust those who do not.

I am certainly no hermit, but I know better than to blindly trust high level politicians of either party. Trust is not a requirement to make your way in the world, only momentarily acting in reliance, and even that is reserved for stuff like getting on a plane, believing the construction, maintenance, etc have been handled, and that the pilots are competent and clear headed. Anybody that places their faith in Democrat or Republican politicians or their parties is a fool, waiting to get burned.

 

[White 6]

Abortion is 'addressed' in the 10th Amendment giving all authority not given the federal government to the individual states. The left had a huge cow when SCOTUS restored that constitutional authority to the states.

Totally different conversation, unrelated to birthright citizenship.

 

[White 6]

And I feel certain that SCOTUS will again overrule birthright, end anchor babies and Trump will win this. I've heard it explained by legal experts and it should be an open and shut slam-dunk case.


Except that just as RvW was long thought the ironclad law of the land, so is the 14th, at least for now.
Winning birthright citizenship is key to solving the immigration problem.

So, not a strict constructionist, if they go with Trump's wishes, eh? What if they go along Trump saying "take the firearms first and then go to court."? You people and your feelings, can get us into a lot of trouble, with your ever evolving constitution theory, simply because you no longer believing in how law should be made in a representative republic.

 

[toobfreak]

What if they go along Trump saying "take the firearms first and then go to court."?

Haven't they already been doing that for years?

 

[Foxfyre]

Totally different conversation, unrelated to birthright citizenship.

You are the one who brought up abortion so I was perfectly logical in assuming you thought it pertinent to the discussion. I pointed out how abortion is addressed in the Constitution even though not specifically mentioned in the Constitution.

And birthright citizenship isn't addressed in the Constitution either but only wording intended to mean those within the jurisdiction of the USA--existing native citizens, naturalized citizens, and those who had been slaves--were to have equal rights as citizens. Those under the jurisdiction of other countries were not included in that.

 

[White 6]

Haven't they already been doing that for years?

Not in Tennessee. More a family thing here. When a family member can no longer be trusted with the weapons, family member remove, disable or remove the ammunition. My older brother and I did this, when our father's Alzheimer/dementia became severe, for his safety and our mother's. Last month, I did the same with weapons and ammo of my brother. Same with driving, his truck now disabled, after Neurologists tests and brain scan, showed severe dementia. Knew it was coming after his two at-fault wrecks in a year and a half, as well getting lost trying to find own his doctor's office in this small city, he has lived in for 25 years. For me to do otherwise, would be irresponsible. But, like I said, just family responsibility, no courts or judges ruling, nor legal expenses.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

No need re the 14th amendment. We just need a clarification as to what 'jurisdiction' was intended to mean. It was never intended to mean children born to diplomats or others non citizens here on official business or for tourists, business people or students here on visas etc. And the Founders certainly didn't intend for it to apply to people here illegally.

Jurisdiction would apply to former slaves previously denied citizenships and to children of U.S. citizens whether born here or naturalized. Anyone not falling under those categories would be within the jurisdiction of the country where they are citizens.

SCOTUS has gotten that wrong in the past just as they got it wrong on the legality of segregation in the past. But a good well written immigration law spelling it out would almost certainly be affirmed by the current more constitutionally astute SCOTUS.

The courts across this country have already ruled as to what it means. You are losing in every case and will lose all the way to the SCOTUS and waste a whole bunch of time and money, making lawyers rich!

Any law restricting citizenship beyond the 14th Amendment will likely be held unconstitutional. They aren't trying that route because Congress knows they cannot do it by law.

If you want birthright citizenship, you need an amendment giving Congress the right to legislate what citizenship means beyond what is included in the 14th Amendment. I happen to agree that illegals should not have that right, but I oppose doing by a new interpretation because another Supreme Court can simply undo it. Pass an amendment and they cannot do that!

How many illegals have had children in this country been denied citizenship since Trump's EO so far? Exactly zero! They are being born every day and being issued SSNs just like before, mainly because SS has no way of knowing the kids are illegals.

 

[Moonglow]

There are ZERO European countries who grant citizenship to children of illegal immigrants simply because they were born in their country. All the Trump Haters tell us how wonderful and humane the European countries are, yet they practice EXACTLY what President Trump is proposing on birthright citizenship! How do the Trump Haters rationalize this?

Fact check: Which European countries practice birthright citizenship?

President Donald Trump incorrectly said that the US is "the only country" that automatically confers citizenship to children born in its territory. What's the situation like in Europe? #EuroVerify

www.euronews.com

Well, so much for American exceptionalism...

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Abortion is 'addressed' in the 10th Amendment giving all authority not given the federal government to the individual states. The left had a huge cow when SCOTUS restored that constitutional authority to the states.

If you can't quote the words anywhere in the Constitution, it is not in there. A state passing a law restricting abortion is actually covered by the 10th Amendment. Is that what you meant instead?