US Birthrate Continues to Decline

[initforme]

Yes. Possible. More than possible, likely.

Nope. Highly unlikely. Massive wage increases maybe.

 

[initforme]

Nope. you don't need that to make a difference.

3 or 4, and it can lift someone out of poverty and into working poor.


You are exaggerating to encourage NOT TRYING for us as a society.

WHy?

Seems you are hanging onto $3 or $4 increases rather than real increases. Why?

 

[initforme]

$2 per hour will do nothing. That will disappear in our gas prices. Laughing.

 

[Correll]

Seems you are hanging onto $3 or $4 increases rather than real increases. Why?

Because you are exaggerating what is needed, in order to justify not changing the current shitty status qou.

As I already stated.

 

[initforme]

Because you are exaggerating what is needed, in order to justify not changing the current shitty status qou.

As I already stated.

Your measly increase will be used just in gas now. So young people will recognize that and laugh.

 

[initforme]

How about 1 full year paid maternity leave from employer?

 

[Correll]

How about 1 full year paid maternity leave from employer?

How about you stop trying to sabotage US?

 

[initforme]

How about you stop trying to sabotage US?

How is that sabotaging anything? Anti labor i see.

 

[JohnDB]

I was watching a video today of JD Vance talking on the Subject of low birth rates.....

Let's just say it wasn't encouraging. He has zero answers, zero ideas, and nothing for stop-gap solutions. Grandparents being daycare is not any real solution to the myriad of problems young people face.

Uggghhhh....
Things like tax credits or exemptions for children....
IVF freebies....

But I think we can do better....
Maternity benefits for female Soldiers in, out, during and etc. And more benefits and pay for soldiers and civil servants with children.

Lots of things he could advocate for.....

 

[Correll]

I was watching a video today of JD Vance talking on the Subject of low birth rates.....

Let's just say it wasn't encouraging. He has zero answers, zero ideas, and nothing for stop-gap solutions. Grandparents being daycare is not any real solution to the myriad of problems young people face.
......

What are teh details for GRANDPARENTS BEING DAYCARE?

 

[JohnDB]

What are teh details for GRANDPARENTS BEING DAYCARE?

Nothing....just they need to volunteer.
As if Grandparents weren't already doing so.

 

[Correll]

Nothing....just they need to volunteer.
As if Grandparents weren't already doing so.

If that is all he had to say, then yes, that is not an answer.

Now, if GRANDPARENTS were to be paid with govenrment funds for their work...

That might be more helpful.

 

[JohnDB]

If that is all he had to say, then yes, that is not an answer.

Now, if GRANDPARENTS were to be paid with govenrment funds for their work...

That might be more helpful.

Yeah....it would be...
But this looks very much like a scheme that can be exploited.
What's wrong is that it would be government cash being handed out and in a highly subjective fashion.
People's schedules change constantly....meaning grandparents might not need to watch the children....then there's the question of some grandparents being too old and infirm to do the child care....an aunt or uncle might be better....maybe a siblings family. Then some have such variable schedules that it's a sibling one week, an aunt the next, then grandparents on the third week....all entitled to gubbermint money....

A total mess to try to fix.

 

[Correll]

Yeah....it would be...
But this looks very much like a scheme that can be exploited.
What's wrong is that it would be government cash being handed out and in a highly subjective fashion.
People's schedules change constantly....meaning grandparents might not need to watch the children....then there's the question of some grandparents being too old and infirm to do the child care....an aunt or uncle might be better....maybe a siblings family. Then some have such variable schedules that it's a sibling one week, an aunt the next, then grandparents on the third week....all entitled to gubbermint money....

A total mess to try to fix.

You're actingly like people are retarded morons, who can't use their own judgement for anything.


WHy are you doing that?

 

[JohnDB]

You're actingly like people are retarded morons, who can't use their own judgement for anything.


WHy are you doing that?

I'm not saying that they cant....
It's just people get confused and Government can be weaponized very easily.

Let's not just hand out cash for daycare programs.....we have that now and it's being exploited and abused in CA and Minnesota.

We can DO a lot of things that aren't necessarily cash payments. Like student loan minimum repayment payments during infant years after giving birth. So if a woman has 3 children she can have up to 15 years of payments made on her school loans made by the Government.

That's a better idea than just handing out cash for daycare.
But we need more ideas.

 

[Correll]

I'm not saying that they cant....
It's just people get confused and Government can be weaponized very easily.

Let's not just hand out cash for daycare programs.....we have that now and it's being exploited and abused in CA and Minnesota.

We can DO a lot of things that aren't necessarily cash payments. Like student loan minimum repayment payments during infant years after giving birth. So if a woman has 3 children she can have up to 15 years of payments made on her school loans made by the Government.

That's a better idea than just handing out cash for daycare.
But we need more ideas.

1. Minnesota, CA, is not because "people got confused" but because Dems are anti-American traitors, who are happy to use money allocated to help children, to instead import the Third World.

2. And now we get into the circle jerk. It's not that you are AGAINST, addressing the problem, you just happen to alway sbe against the method being discussed.

 

[JohnDB]

1. Minnesota, CA, is not because "people got confused" but because Dems are anti-American traitors, who are happy to use money allocated to help children, to instead import the Third World.

2. And now we get into the circle jerk. It's not that you are AGAINST, addressing the problem, you just happen to alway sbe against the method being discussed.

I think there's better ways to address the issues....
Like restoring our domestic manufacturing for a profit.
Punitive tariffs on goods and nations participating in trade of stolen intellectual property.
Protecting American workers and trades with tax incentives paid for by tariffs for businesses.
Free trade agreements that are really reciprocal....not just said to be reciprocal.

Not just tax credits for gratuity workers....but stop all wages and taxes and even bothering to file for them.like it used to be decades ago....
It drastically raises all wages in these industries. 5-6 waitstaff's wages vx one cook and one dishwasher....the cook and dishwasher can get paid a fair wage once again. Their wages are not going to pay waitstaff.

Things like that mean much much more....and don't consist of a government check being handed out. High tides raises ALL ships.

 

[Correll]

I think there's better ways to address the issues....
Like restoring our domestic manufacturing for a profit.
Punitive tariffs on goods and nations participating in trade of stolen intellectual property.
Protecting American workers and trades with tax incentives paid for by tariffs for businesses.
Free trade agreements that are really reciprocal....not just said to be reciprocal.

Not just tax credits for gratuity workers....but stop all wages and taxes and even bothering to file for them.like it used to be decades ago....
It drastically raises all wages in these industries. 5-6 waitstaff's wages vx one cook and one dishwasher....the cook and dishwasher can get paid a fair wage once again. Their wages are not going to pay waitstaff.

Things like that mean much much more....and don't consist of a government check being handed out. High tides raises ALL ships.

Trump is the one pushing on that front.

EVERYONE else, not maga, was supporting the status qou of globalizing and ******* American workers.

 

[JohnDB]

Trump is the one pushing on that front.

EVERYONE else, not maga, was supporting the status qou of globalizing and ******* American workers.

I think he needs to push even harder...
And JD Vance is the "nice guy"....he likes to compromise. We don't need any....and there can't be any if we want to survive.

We need to raise the standard of living from entry level wages....increase real productivity and cut admin costs EVERYWHERE.

Lots of ways to accomplish this stuff.

Cutting USAID is just a drop in the bucket.

 

[Correll]

I think he needs to push even harder...
And JD Vance is the "nice guy"....he likes to compromise. We don't need any....and there can't be any if we want to survive.

We need to raise the standard of living from entry level wages....increase real productivity and cut admin costs EVERYWHERE.

Lots of ways to accomplish this stuff.

Cutting USAID is just a drop in the bucket.

Agreed. Vance will be the next President. But we need a nice FIREBREATHER for his VP and NEXT on the hit parade.