Is it OK to not love Hamas and not love the Netanyahu government?A simple question for those of you that hate Israel believing in this:
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Which group has had the largest civilian deaths?
The latest death toll stands at 43,552 Palestinians
and 1,139 people killed in Israel since October 7, 2023.
So which group cares more about their people to have spent over $200 million to protect their people?
Israel-Gaza war in maps and charts: Live tracker
The latest death toll stands at 62,614 Palestinians and 1,139 people killed in Israel since October 7, 2023.www.aljazeera.com
Since then, the $210 million system has been developed by Rafael Advanced Defense Systems working jointly with the IDF. In May 2021 it was estimated that Palestinian militant groups had an arsenal of about 30,000 rockets and mortar bombs in Gaza, all of which could be potential targets for Iron Dome if fired.
While their people languish in poverty and are treated as human shields, the leaders of Hamas live billionaire lifestyles.
Iron Dome - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
The terror group’s three top leaders alone are worth a staggering total of $11 billion and enjoy a life of luxury in the sanctuary of the emirate of Qatar.
Hamas leaders worth staggering $11B revel in luxury — while Gaza’s people suffer
Three of the terror group’s most senior figures are able fly private and relax in safety in the tiny emirate — a key US ally — while enjoying an $11bn fortune between them.nypost.com
So I'm asking those of you defending Hamas and their billionaire leaders... which group believes in protecting their people FIRST?
Also from a Muslim..." As a child growing up in a Muslim family, I constantly heard my mother, other relatives, and neighbors wish for the death of Jews, who were considered our darkest enemy. Our religious tutors and the preachers in our mosques set aside extra time to pray for the destruction of Jews.
Why Middle East Muslims are taught to hate Jews
For far too long the pervasive Middle Eastern qualification of Jews as murderers and bloodsuckers was dismissed in the West as an extreme view of radical fringe groups. But it is not. It is time for the region's secular movements to start a counter-education in tolerance.www.csmonitor.com
Hence the slogan that truly ignorant Americans especially students repeating "From river to sea,Palestine must be free"!
Means all Israelis must be exterminated as the above Muslim writer states!
Now do the Israelis want all Muslims to be exterminated as Hamas wants?
The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement was issued on August 18, 1988. The Islamic Resistance Movement, also known as the HAMAS, is an extremist fundamentalist Islamic organization operating in the territories under Israeli control. Its Covenant is a comprehensive manifesto comprised of 36 separate articles, all of which promote the basic HAMAS goal of destroying the State of Israel through Jihad (Islamic Holy War). The following are excerpts of the HAMAS Covenant:
Goals of the HAMAS:
"The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine." (Article 6)
On the destruction of Israel:
"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it."
This from https://embassies.gov.il/holysee/AboutIsrael/the-middle-east/Pages/The Hamas-Covenant.aspx
So the simple answer is... based on the above data, facts, statements... Hamas/Muslims wants all Israelis exterminated.
To those of you that hate Israel and love Hamas...
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gipper
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Not to this asshole. He started this flame thread, which the mods should have taken down long ago.
He proves with every post he knows very little.
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You didn't answer the question!
Which group protects it's people and which group has 3 billionaires leaders living in Qatar?
Hamas billionaires: Lifestyles of the rich and terrorists
The leaders of the Hamas terrorist group are worth billions, making them one of the richest terrorist organizations in the world and able to afford luxurious lifestyles.
www.foxnews.com
while 45,418 Palestinians killed but only 1,139 people killed in Israel since October 7, 2023.
NOTE the source: Israel-Gaza war in maps and charts: Live tracker
Which government evidently loves it's citizens better?
Also which government invaded the other government on Oct 7, 2023.
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People like me don't necessarily "hate" ALL Muslims but I don't want Muslims to kill people that don't believe as SOME Muslims do that and I quote the Qur'an...
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So you are ok with Hamas leaders becoming billionaires allowing over 45,000 of their FOLLOWERS to be killed while
the country they invaded protect their citizens with the Iron Dome? What kind of idiots follow leaders that make billions while the followers are being slaughtered due to these leaders NOT spending less than 1% of their billions on saving their followers?
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No.
Why are you okay with Israel mass murdering thousands of defenseless civilians?
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"HEY DUMMY your comment proves you don't "THINK" as you have NOTHING to support your totally subjective and definitely uninformed OPINIONS!"
Again what is YOUR answer to the simple question!
Which group considers the safety of their followers:
A group lead by 3 billionaires living in safety in Qatar
OR
A group that protects it's followers against the attack by almost 20,000 rockets that have hit southern Israel.
Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel - Wikipedia
According to the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Anti-Defamation League, a total of 1,194 Israelis and foreigners were killed and 7,000 wounded ...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_casualties_of_war
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Your question reflects your ignorance. You are unaware the Palestinians have been oppressed for decades. You don’t know or care that their land was stolen, thousands murdered, maimed, and imprisoned."HEY DUMMY your comment proves you don't "THINK" as you have NOTHING to support your totally subjective and definitely uninformed OPINIONS!"
Again what is YOUR answer to the simple question!
Which group considers the safety of their followers:
A group lead by 3 billionaires living in safety in Qatar
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OR
A group that protects it's followers against the attack by almost 20,000 rockets that have hit southern Israel.
Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel - Wikipedia
According to the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Anti-Defamation League, a total of 1,194 Israelis and foreigners were killed and 7,000 wounded ...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_casualties_of_war
What do you think an oppressed people should do?
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You don't control the narrative, not here, you're not in Sickrael now dictating to non-Jews what they can and can't say.
I thought I was clear but if not:You didn't answer the question!
Which group protects it's people and which group has 3 billionaires leaders living in Qatar?
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Hamas billionaires: Lifestyles of the rich and terrorists
The leaders of the Hamas terrorist group are worth billions, making them one of the richest terrorist organizations in the world and able to afford luxurious lifestyles.
while 45,418 Palestinians killed but only 1,139 people killed in Israel since October 7, 2023.
NOTE the source: Israel-Gaza war in maps and charts: Live tracker
Which government evidently loves it's citizens better?
Also which government invaded the other government on Oct 7, 2023.
Do I love Hamas? No
Do I love the Israeli government? No
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Who tells Shia to hate Sunni ?
healthmyths
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No you didn't answer the question!
It is a simple question. Not a question of "love"! A question of the FACTS!!!
Which group considers the safety of their followers:
A group lead by 3 billionaires living in safety in Qatar or
A group that protects it's followers against the attack almost 20,000 rockets have hit southern Israel.
Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel - Wikipedia
Which group obviously cares more for their followers!
And don't say "well USA helps Israel out! Consider this!
In total, the U.S. has given Israel “$318 billion since the end of World War II,” according to PolitiFact. It’s given the Palestinian territories more than $11 billion since 1950.
How Much Financial Assistance has the US Given Israel?
The U.S. and Israel have what has historically been called a “special relationship,” and the U.S. has given more money to Israel than any other country since 1946.
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No one.
I'm not going to defend Hamas but, I also don't think Israel truly wants peace, they want secure their victories and keep as much land as they can grab and if that gives rise to an intifada or two.No you didn't answer the question!
It is a simple question. Not a question of "love"! A question of the FACTS!!!
Which group considers the safety of their followers:
A group lead by 3 billionaires living in safety in Qatar or
A group that protects it's followers against the attack almost 20,000 rockets have hit southern Israel.
Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel - Wikipedia
Which group obviously cares more for their followers!
And don't say "well USA helps Israel out! Consider this!
In total, the U.S. has given Israel “$318 billion since the end of World War II,” according to PolitiFact. It’s given the Palestinian territories more than $11 billion since 1950.
So once again... which leaders care more about their followers than their own pockets???How Much Financial Assistance has the US Given Israel?
The U.S. and Israel have what has historically been called a “special relationship,” and the U.S. has given more money to Israel than any other country since 1946.globalaffairs.org
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In the minds of the Zionist traitors on this forum, you are automatically labeled a Hamas supporter.
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FACTS NOT your totally BIASED UNIFORMED opinions! Get grown up and deal with FACTS!
So tell me if Israel is "grabbing Gaza land" why then did they do this?
FACTS!!!
In 1993, as part of the Oslo Accords, the Palestine Liberation Organization and Israel agreed to an outline for Palestinians to self-govern in the Palestinian territories.In 1994, Israel withdrew from Gaza City and Jericho, giving civilian and city functions to the Palestinian Authority.
Israeli disengagement from the Gaza Strip - Wikipedia
Israel's Disengagement from Gaza and North Samaria (2005)
Israel's plan of unilateral disengagement from the Gaza Strip and North Samaria put forward by Prime Minister Ariel Sharon was carried out on 15 August 2005.
The purpose of the plan was to improve Israel's security and international status in the absence of peace negotiations with the Palestinians.
With the implementation of the plan, IDF installations and forces were removed and over 9,000 Israeli citizens living in 25 settlements were evicted.
By 22 September 2005, Israel's withdrawal from the entire Gaza Strip to the 1967 Green Line, and the eviction of the four settlements in Samaria, was completed.
In June 2007 Hamas took over the Gaza Strip from the Palestinian Authority.
Many thousands of rockets and mortar shells have been fired from the Gaza Strip onto southern Israeli towns and villages, terrorizing and destabilizing the lives of hundreds of thousands of Israeli citizens.
NOW do you totally understand REALITY and not false information!
So what did the Hamas do after Israel withdrew from Gaza ???
FACTS Dummy from the Hamas!!!
One of Hamas’s goals was simply to kill Israelis—many of them.
The Washington Post reported that instructions found on dead Hamas fighters included, “Kill as many people and take as many hostages as possible.” Among other weapons, Hamas also equipped its fighters with thermobaric grenades, which can quickly cause massive fires in a home. The fighters also had enough ammunition and food to keep going into Israel if they were able to do so, as well as maps, suggesting an even higher death toll was possible.
Why Hamas Attacked When It Did
The October 7 Hamas attacks proved devastating for both Israel and ordinary Palestinians. Why did Hamas decide to attack Israel when it did?
SO DUMMY where is your counter proof? AGAIN I ask a simple question!
Which group considers the safety of their followers:
A group lead by 3 billionaires living in safety in Qatar or
A group that protects it's followers against the attack almost 20,000 rockets have hit southern Israel.
Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel - Wikipedia
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Wake up, for God's sake wake up people, what the **** has happened to Americans, some of you would rather cut your own mother's throat than oppose Israel, I've never seen such weakness in a nation purportedly so powerful.FACTS NOT your totally BIASED UNIFORMED opinions! Get grown up and deal with FACTS!
So tell me if Israel is "grabbing Gaza land" why then did they do this?
FACTS!!!
In 1993, as part of the Oslo Accords, the Palestine Liberation Organization and Israel agreed to an outline for Palestinians to self-govern in the Palestinian territories.
In 1994, Israel withdrew from Gaza City and Jericho, giving civilian and city functions to the Palestinian Authority.
Israeli disengagement from the Gaza Strip - Wikipedia
Israel's Disengagement from Gaza and North Samaria (2005)
Israel's plan of unilateral disengagement from the Gaza Strip and North Samaria put forward by Prime Minister Ariel Sharon was carried out on 15 August 2005.
The purpose of the plan was to improve Israel's security and international status in the absence of peace negotiations with the Palestinians.
With the implementation of the plan, IDF installations and forces were removed and over 9,000 Israeli citizens living in 25 settlements were evicted.
By 22 September 2005, Israel's withdrawal from the entire Gaza Strip to the 1967 Green Line, and the eviction of the four settlements in Samaria, was completed.
In June 2007 Hamas took over the Gaza Strip from the Palestinian Authority.
Many thousands of rockets and mortar shells have been fired from the Gaza Strip onto southern Israeli towns and villages, terrorizing and destabilizing the lives of hundreds of thousands of Israeli citizens.
NOW do you totally understand REALITY and not false information!
So what did the Hamas do after Israel withdrew from Gaza ???
FACTS Dummy from the Hamas!!!
One of Hamas’s goals was simply to kill Israelis—many of them.
The Washington Post reported that instructions found on dead Hamas fighters included, “Kill as many people and take as many hostages as possible.” Among other weapons, Hamas also equipped its fighters with thermobaric grenades, which can quickly cause massive fires in a home. The fighters also had enough ammunition and food to keep going into Israel if they were able to do so, as well as maps, suggesting an even higher death toll was possible.
Why Hamas Attacked When It Did
The October 7 Hamas attacks proved devastating for both Israel and ordinary Palestinians. Why did Hamas decide to attack Israel when it did?www.csis.org
SO DUMMY where is your counter proof? AGAIN I ask a simple question!
Which group considers the safety of their followers:
A group lead by 3 billionaires living in safety in Qatar or
A group that protects it's followers against the attack almost 20,000 rockets have hit southern Israel.
Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel - Wikipedia
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Billo_Really
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Why are there no protections for Palestinians in the West Bank?A simple question for those of you that hate Israel believing in this:
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Which group has had the largest civilian deaths?
The latest death toll stands at 43,552 Palestinians
and 1,139 people killed in Israel since October 7, 2023.
So which group cares more about their people to have spent over $200 million to protect their people?Israel-Gaza war in maps and charts: Live tracker
The latest death toll stands at 62,614 Palestinians and 1,139 people killed in Israel since October 7, 2023.
Since then, the $210 million system has been developed by Rafael Advanced Defense Systems working jointly with the IDF. In May 2021 it was estimated that Palestinian militant groups had an arsenal of about 30,000 rockets and mortar bombs in Gaza, all of which could be potential targets for Iron Dome if fired.
While their people languish in poverty and are treated as human shields, the leaders of Hamas live billionaire lifestyles.Iron Dome - Wikipedia
The terror group’s three top leaders alone are worth a staggering total of $11 billion and enjoy a life of luxury in the sanctuary of the emirate of Qatar.
Hamas leaders worth staggering $11B revel in luxury — while Gaza’s people suffer
Three of the terror group’s most senior figures are able fly private and relax in safety in the tiny emirate — a key US ally — while enjoying an $11bn fortune between them.
So I'm asking those of you defending Hamas and their billionaire leaders... which group believes in protecting their people FIRST?
Also from a Muslim..." As a child growing up in a Muslim family, I constantly heard my mother, other relatives, and neighbors wish for the death of Jews, who were considered our darkest enemy. Our religious tutors and the preachers in our mosques set aside extra time to pray for the destruction of Jews.
Why Middle East Muslims are taught to hate Jews
For far too long the pervasive Middle Eastern qualification of Jews as murderers and bloodsuckers was dismissed in the West as an extreme view of radical fringe groups. But it is not. It is time for the region's secular movements to start a counter-education in tolerance.
Hence the slogan that truly ignorant Americans especially students repeating "From river to sea,Palestine must be free"!
Means all Israelis must be exterminated as the above Muslim writer states!
Now do the Israelis want all Muslims to be exterminated as Hamas wants?
The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement was issued on August 18, 1988. The Islamic Resistance Movement, also known as the HAMAS, is an extremist fundamentalist Islamic organization operating in the territories under Israeli control. Its Covenant is a comprehensive manifesto comprised of 36 separate articles, all of which promote the basic HAMAS goal of destroying the State of Israel through Jihad (Islamic Holy War). The following are excerpts of the HAMAS Covenant:
Goals of the HAMAS:
"The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine." (Article 6)
On the destruction of Israel:
"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it."
This from https://embassies.gov.il/holysee/AboutIsrael/the-middle-east/Pages/The Hamas-Covenant.aspx
So the simple answer is... based on the above data, facts, statements... Hamas/Muslims wants all Israelis exterminated.
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