To all Gun Grabbers

[McRocket]

Stop trying to **** with the 2nd Amendment...….we have a right to own guns...….focus on executing criminals not citizens..



Judge blocks California's ban on high-capacity magazines over 2nd Amendment concerns


and for those of you trying....he's what you need to do

Bad day at the slaughter house?

 

[OldLady]

You need high capacity magazines to defend yourself? If so, you are either in the wrong profession or you need to move.

The police have hi-caps. Are they in the wrong profession?

Mark

We all know that this discussion is about civilians.

yeah, but it still applies.....because your question is naïve....but you cant tell us how many shots we need, because you couldn't possibly know the answer.....that's why you ignored my question

I didn't ignore your question. Shoot at someone with your gun. You get six chances. If you still haven't managed to hit anyone, change the magazine. This can be done in a couple of seconds with no problem whatsoever according to the many, many gun owners here who have told me that time and time again.

6 shots? that's it? then you reload? 6 shooters are revolvers not many magazine based guns...…so now that we know you dont know much about guns....you must be one of those people that would shit your pants if you saw one in person.

So for you six shooter and your reload, did you calculate:
How many enemies?
What kind of gun is it?
What caliber is it?
Do you know how many shots it takes to kill someone with a specific caliber?
What weapons or armor they may have?
Their training and experience?
Your training and experience?
The location?
What kind of cover they have?
What kind of cover you have?
Are there others around?

I'm sure others can think of more variables.....but those are the basics....sorry I hate criminals...I'd rather they end up dead.....and not innocents.

You can adequately defend yourself without high capacity magazines and I don't care if you ask me a page full of questions. I was kinda guessing on the number of bullets in an average mag. So I just googled it and the "average" is 8 or 9!!!! If you can't hit your target by then, you need to hit the range.

 

[OldLady]

The 2nd amendment was created because if the government and police can have fully automatic weapons with high capacity magazines, then the law abiding US citizens should have weapons that can compete with the government in case it decides to become like Venezuela. It has always been this way, because an unarmed citizenry is a dead citizenry and the founding fathers knew one day there would be a coup on the president and socialism would take over. We the People are free not because of the 1st amendment but because of the 2nd amendment. Without that there isnt a free citizenry.

Our government is NOT going to stand down because we've got AR's and pistols. They've got missiles, drones, tanks, etc. etc.

 

[progressive hunter]

Stop trying to **** with the 2nd Amendment...….we have a right to own guns...….focus on executing criminals not citizens..



Judge blocks California's ban on high-capacity magazines over 2nd Amendment concerns


and for those of you trying....he's what you need to do

Do you know what a "magazine" is? Why are you whining about not being able to bear arms?

I do, but democrats apparently dont...…



My question, is why do you not want people to defend themselves?

You need high capacity magazines to defend yourself? If so, you are either in the wrong profession or you need to move.

or it could be youre just really dumb,,,,

 

[progressive hunter]

The 2nd amendment was created because if the government and police can have fully automatic weapons with high capacity magazines, then the law abiding US citizens should have weapons that can compete with the government in case it decides to become like Venezuela. It has always been this way, because an unarmed citizenry is a dead citizenry and the founding fathers knew one day there would be a coup on the president and socialism would take over. We the People are free not because of the 1st amendment but because of the 2nd amendment. Without that there isnt a free citizenry.

Our government is NOT going to stand down because we've got AR's and pistols. They've got missiles, drones, tanks, etc. etc.

but arent you canadian???

 

[OldLady]

You need high capacity magazines to defend yourself? If so, you are either in the wrong profession or you need to move.

When they roll 6 deep, yes you do. Not every part of the country is as hunky-dory as the part you're in, missy.

"Green said. "The number of
perpetrators would vary depending upon the anticipated risk involved in
a particular robbery."
Green said gang members were armed with AK47s and MAC 10 assault rifles."

https://www.crimeindetroit.com/documents/Police Stop Bandits who Posed as Officers, Invaders.pdf

Remind me never to come to Florida. Six at once, huh? Don't the rest usually run after you shoot one or two?

Life in the big city, baby.

My main gun is only 5 shots, next up is also only 5 shots as well, but the blast alone will probably stun anything within 10 feet. I can work that bolt like The Rifleman, too. Oh! I have yet 1 more 5-shot hope if I can get to it.

You feel you can protect yourself pretty well with those, Marion?

It's the best chance I have.

Buckeye apparently can't shoot that straight.

 

[OldLady]

The 2nd amendment was created because if the government and police can have fully automatic weapons with high capacity magazines, then the law abiding US citizens should have weapons that can compete with the government in case it decides to become like Venezuela. It has always been this way, because an unarmed citizenry is a dead citizenry and the founding fathers knew one day there would be a coup on the president and socialism would take over. We the People are free not because of the 1st amendment but because of the 2nd amendment. Without that there isnt a free citizenry.

Our government is NOT going to stand down because we've got AR's and pistols. They've got missiles, drones, tanks, etc. etc.

but arent you canadian???

No, that's Dragon Lady.

 

[progressive hunter]

When they roll 6 deep, yes you do. Not every part of the country is as hunky-dory as the part you're in, missy.

"Green said. "The number of
perpetrators would vary depending upon the anticipated risk involved in
a particular robbery."
Green said gang members were armed with AK47s and MAC 10 assault rifles."

https://www.crimeindetroit.com/documents/Police Stop Bandits who Posed as Officers, Invaders.pdf

Remind me never to come to Florida. Six at once, huh? Don't the rest usually run after you shoot one or two?

Life in the big city, baby.

My main gun is only 5 shots, next up is also only 5 shots as well, but the blast alone will probably stun anything within 10 feet. I can work that bolt like The Rifleman, too. Oh! I have yet 1 more 5-shot hope if I can get to it.

You feel you can protect yourself pretty well with those, Marion?

It's the best chance I have.

Buckeye apparently can't shoot that straight.

or youre just really dumb,,,

 

[OldLady]

Stop trying to **** with the 2nd Amendment...….we have a right to own guns...….focus on executing criminals not citizens..



Judge blocks California's ban on high-capacity magazines over 2nd Amendment concerns


and for those of you trying....he's what you need to do

Do you know what a "magazine" is? Why are you whining about not being able to bear arms?

I do, but democrats apparently dont...…



My question, is why do you not want people to defend themselves?

You need high capacity magazines to defend yourself? If so, you are either in the wrong profession or you need to move.

or it could be youre just really dumb,,,,

Wow. What an argument....

 

[progressive hunter]

Stop trying to **** with the 2nd Amendment...….we have a right to own guns...….focus on executing criminals not citizens..



Judge blocks California's ban on high-capacity magazines over 2nd Amendment concerns


and for those of you trying....he's what you need to do

Do you know what a "magazine" is? Why are you whining about not being able to bear arms?

I do, but democrats apparently dont...…



My question, is why do you not want people to defend themselves?

You need high capacity magazines to defend yourself? If so, you are either in the wrong profession or you need to move.

or it could be youre just really dumb,,,,

Wow. What an argument....

compared to yours its brilliant,,,

 

[buckeye45_73]

The police have hi-caps. Are they in the wrong profession?

Mark

We all know that this discussion is about civilians.

yeah, but it still applies.....because your question is naïve....but you cant tell us how many shots we need, because you couldn't possibly know the answer.....that's why you ignored my question

I didn't ignore your question. Shoot at someone with your gun. You get six chances. If you still haven't managed to hit anyone, change the magazine. This can be done in a couple of seconds with no problem whatsoever according to the many, many gun owners here who have told me that time and time again.

6 shots? that's it? then you reload? 6 shooters are revolvers not many magazine based guns...…so now that we know you dont know much about guns....you must be one of those people that would shit your pants if you saw one in person.

So for you six shooter and your reload, did you calculate:
How many enemies?
What kind of gun is it?
What caliber is it?
Do you know how many shots it takes to kill someone with a specific caliber?
What weapons or armor they may have?
Their training and experience?
Your training and experience?
The location?
What kind of cover they have?
What kind of cover you have?
Are there others around?

I'm sure others can think of more variables.....but those are the basics....sorry I hate criminals...I'd rather they end up dead.....and not innocents.

You can adequately defend yourself without high capacity magazines and I don't care if you ask me a page full of questions. I was kinda guessing on the number of bullets in an average mag. So I just googled it and the "average" is 8 or 9!!!! If you can't hit your target by then, you need to hit the range.

So no you didn't take any of that into consideration.....and yeah, you only need one....I mean if you aren't a perfect shot, you deserve to die.....got it.

 

[buckeye45_73]

When they roll 6 deep, yes you do. Not every part of the country is as hunky-dory as the part you're in, missy.

"Green said. "The number of
perpetrators would vary depending upon the anticipated risk involved in
a particular robbery."
Green said gang members were armed with AK47s and MAC 10 assault rifles."

https://www.crimeindetroit.com/documents/Police Stop Bandits who Posed as Officers, Invaders.pdf

Remind me never to come to Florida. Six at once, huh? Don't the rest usually run after you shoot one or two?

Life in the big city, baby.

My main gun is only 5 shots, next up is also only 5 shots as well, but the blast alone will probably stun anything within 10 feet. I can work that bolt like The Rifleman, too. Oh! I have yet 1 more 5-shot hope if I can get to it.

You feel you can protect yourself pretty well with those, Marion?

It's the best chance I have.

Buckeye apparently can't shoot that straight.

I do fine at the range......but apparently you dont know anything about guns...….you make the yucky face when you see one

 

[SFC Ollie]

Fact remains that the purpose of the 2nd was not for protecting your home or hunting but protection of the Republic.

 

[Pilot1]

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Joe certainly is a touchy-feely kind guy. Too many pictures of him doing just what was described for him to deny it.

Lots of opinion, very little facts.

Then name one and argue against it.

Since we have 150 years of cheap oil and gas and 400 years of cheap coal reserves all you planet huggers just deal with reality, fossil fuels are here to stay.

Stop trying to **** with the 2nd Amendment...….we have a right to own guns...….focus on executing criminals not citizens..



Judge blocks California's ban on high-capacity magazines over 2nd Amendment concerns


and for those of you trying....he's what you need to do

Do you know what a "magazine" is? Why are you whining about not being able to bear arms?

I do, but democrats apparently dont...…



My question, is why do you not want people to defend themselves?

You need high capacity magazines to defend yourself? If so, you are either in the wrong profession or you need to move.

Really? So what capacity do you need to defend yourself? (these are my favorite questions, lets see how much she really thinks)

What is in a standard magazine? I know it depends on the gun, but isn't it about five with one in the chamber?

It is what comes standard with the firearm, and/or what the firearm has the ability to take. For example an AR-15 comes standard with thirty round magazines. A typical, full size semi auto handgun comes with a 16 - 18 round magazine. My 75 year old M1 Carbine originally came with 15 round magazines, but later versions came with 30 round magazines. My 50 year old Browning Hi Power pistol came with 13 round magazines standard.

 

[JoeMoma]

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Joe certainly is a touchy-feely kind guy. Too many pictures of him doing just what was described for him to deny it.

Lots of opinion, very little facts.

Then name one and argue against it.

Since we have 150 years of cheap oil and gas and 400 years of cheap coal reserves all you planet huggers just deal with reality, fossil fuels are here to stay.

Do you know what a "magazine" is? Why are you whining about not being able to bear arms?

I do, but democrats apparently dont...…



My question, is why do you not want people to defend themselves?

You need high capacity magazines to defend yourself? If so, you are either in the wrong profession or you need to move.

Really? So what capacity do you need to defend yourself? (these are my favorite questions, lets see how much she really thinks)

What is in a standard magazine? I know it depends on the gun, but isn't it about five with one in the chamber?

It is what comes standard with the firearm, and/or what the firearm has the ability to take. For example an AR-15 comes standard with thirty round magazines. A typical, full size semi auto handgun comes with a 16 - 18 round magazine. My 75 year old M1 Carbine originally came with 15 round magazines, but later versions came with 30 round magazines. My 50 year old Browning Hi Power pistol came with 13 round magazines standard.

May be time to empty out you quote clipboard.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Stop trying to **** with the 2nd Amendment...….we have a right to own guns...….focus on executing criminals not citizens..



Judge blocks California's ban on high-capacity magazines over 2nd Amendment concerns


and for those of you trying....he's what you need to do

Do you know what a "magazine" is? Why are you whining about not being able to bear arms?

I do, but democrats apparently dont...…



My question, is why do you not want people to defend themselves?

You need high capacity magazines to defend yourself? If so, you are either in the wrong profession or you need to move.

So you dont believe the poor have the right to defend themselves ?

 

[buckeye45_73]

Fact remains that the purpose of the 2nd was not for protecting your home or hunting but protection of the Republic.

IT was both...read the 3rd amendment....it's a big reason we have the second amendment.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Stop trying to **** with the 2nd Amendment...….we have a right to own guns...….focus on executing criminals not citizens..



Judge blocks California's ban on high-capacity magazines over 2nd Amendment concerns


and for those of you trying....he's what you need to do

Do you know what a "magazine" is? Why are you whining about not being able to bear arms?

I do, but democrats apparently dont...…



My question, is why do you not want people to defend themselves?

You need high capacity magazines to defend yourself? If so, you are either in the wrong profession or you need to move.

Really? So what capacity do you need to defend yourself? (these are my favorite questions, lets see how much she really thinks)

What is in a standard magazine? I know it depends on the gun, but isn't it about five with one in the chamber?

My .45 holds 16.
Is that to many?

 

[Rigby5]

Fact remains that the purpose of the 2nd was not for protecting your home or hunting but protection of the Republic.

Absolutely WRONG!
All of the Bill of Rights is ONLY about placing hard limits on the the federal government, so that states would be willing to sign on.
So the 2nd amendment is ONLY about protecting your home, self, neighbors, municipality, and state.
The fact that it also reminds people that gun control means a population unprepared to defend the republic as well, is not at all the main point of the 2nd amendment.

 

[Rigby5]

There is never too many bullets for defense.
What if you are being chased by a gang of 50, or you are protecting a store from 500 potential looters?