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I didn't say "dairy free milks" I said "dairy free offerings" as in they make dishes with no dairy in them, as in no milk or no cheese. Many dishes are made with dairy. Many are not. This was in answer to your remark about your lactose intolerant friends. I am fully aware what plant-based milk is.Second of all dairy-free milks are plant-based!
Yeah, I know. I've lived through this fad a couple times. The late 60s, late 90s--it comes around about every 30 years along with all the other "flavors of the week."Children and college students and the next generation are demanding more and more and more vegan, plant-based options
The fact is, according to science, that plants do not have a nervous system, and therefore, do not feel pain or suffer. It's as simple as that.
www.history.com
Catsup has an ancient history
The Surprisingly Ancient History of Ketchup | HISTORY
It's America's favorite condiment, but ketchup's long history dates back to imperial China—and at one point it was completely tomato-free.
Yes, you are correct, the Chinese didn't, it was actually originally a fish paste as I already said. Read the link it explains about how tomatoes came along later. BTW I love ketchup.Given that the plant we all know as Tomato and it's fruit originated in South America. I find it difficult to believe the Ancient Chinese had a recipe for tomato ketchup.
I don't like vegetables and never have. I eat corn with meals at times, but that's about it. Sometimes some tomato or pickles on my hamburger. Vegetables are only good when you combine them with meat. If all I had were vegetables to eat, I'd probably starve to death.
Ketchup is OK. I'm not as much of a fan as I once was. Guess that comes from a season of working in a ketchup bottling plant about 48 years ago. LOLYes, you are correct, the Chinese didn't, it was actually originally a fish paste as I already said. Read the link it explains about how tomatoes came along later. BTW I love ketchup.
Heinz?Ketchup is OK. I'm not as much of a fan as I once was. Guess that comes from a season of working in a ketchup bottling plant about 48 years ago. LOL
It, like all else, will PASS.Pass the Tofu
Prawn sauce and oyster sauce in Chinese restaurants and Italian places use all sorts of butter, parmesean cheese, and other products that come from animals. Even the pasta has eggs.Ever been to a Chinese or Italian restaurant? These places are replete with vegan dishes as part of their regular menus.
Off topic and not worth the time except to point out that what I sad before is absolutely true.What's with you always trying to compare humans with animals all the time, and then say you are not humanizing animals?
Let me ask: our cities have to hire sharp shooters to cull the deer around here. Because if you don't keep the animal population down, they end up starving to death or get so weak they don't realize they are walking in front of a car, at times even killing people. Are you against that too? They take the meat and donate it to the homeless downtown. Is that wrong as well?
I don't like vegetables and never have. I eat corn with meals at times, but that's about it. Sometimes some tomato or pickles on my hamburger. Vegetables are only good when you combine them with meat. If all I had were vegetables to eat, I'd probably starve to death.
In Europe a Karen in a restaurant was whining and complaining and asked...."isn't the the customer the king?"Just an observation on the whiny entitled customer as a whole. I think two thinks ruined our society:
1. "The customer is always right"
and
2. "We want to hear from you"
No. Wrong. Sometimes the customer is a needy, whiny moron. And lots of times, just keep your mouth shut.
I've been saying this for years and years--and I'm pleased to see that more businesses seem to be catching on. I see more places tossing Karens out.
At the place where my kids worked, both from age 16 through college (restaurant), if the customers terribly harassed hostesses or servers they were put on the "banned" list. They almost always protested with "You can't do that!" to which the managers responded, we can and we did. If you come back here we're calling the police.
People do not realize they do not have the RIGHT to frequent private businesses. I'm glad they're learning.
Yeah, PETA has never violently protested. Never.Who is demanding that? Most vegans just want some options at all the restaurants available that they would like to frequent. It is simply good at customer service. To try to please the people that walk through your door because it's your means of making a living. That's really all there is to it!
While there is egg pasta, typically pasta is flour and water. and there are plenty of dishes in those places that use no animal products at all. My DiL is vegan. we have never had an issue finding to a restaurant with her. she can always find a few dishes that are vegan. And no, it's not just a salad. It's just good business. if a group of friends want to go out and one of them is a vegan, they will either choose a vegan restaurant, or one that has a selection of vegan dishes.Prawn sauce and oyster sauce in Chinese restaurants and Italian places use all sorts of butter, parmesean cheese, and other products that come from animals. Even the pasta has eggs.
Vegetarian is possible....vegan is impossible.
I'm willing to bet that vegans eat a far greater variety of foods than you do.Which goes to show just how picky an annoying vegans can be.
The joys of the "problems" a person can have in a first world society.
No it isn't really because as I have repeatedly said all restaurants already stock and serve a large variety of non meat foods.Well, yes it is.
But they have a customer base they cater to. They can offer what they want, but IF enough potential customers exist, they'll likely change their menu.
As far as I'm concerned, they have thr right to ask/demand, and the business owner has the right to operate his business any way he sees fit
It is very difficult to run a controlled double blind study with thousands of people for years.Look at the "studies" they post up. 110 people in a semi controlled situation, there was no detail of the metrics they used, nor was there a detailed breakdown of thr medical condition of tbe subjects.
In other words, the "study" wasn't valid.
But this is the kind of crap they post up.
Wrong.also unhealthy jerks
Veganism is healthy for maybe a couple weeks. Then the body needs complete protein and the kind only found in animal products. Jesus ate meat (the Passover lamb, etc).
Vegans are nuts, not even eating fish... (because "it has a face")
they don't live long. But that doesn't faze them, I guess... They disbelieve the science on that one just as they disbelieve the science on everything else..
