Time to rename our Confederate Forts

[whitehall]

We are involved in a pandemic as well as civil unrest and anarchy but the angry left thinks "it's time to rename" Army bases. Anybody else think the angry left needs professional help?

 

[rightwinger]

We are involved in a pandemic as well as civil unrest and anarchy but the angry left thinks "it's time to rename" Army bases. Anybody else think the angry left needs professional help?

Trump will be an asshole to the end.
But he will be gone in seven months and then we can rename those horrid forts (right after we tear down the wall)

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Most insidious vestige of the Confederacy is the name of the Democrat party

Hahaha.... oh man, how stupid. Yes, it's Democrats crying like little bitches that everyone is trying to "destroy their heritage:".

Uh, no.

 

[Silver Cat]

Second, as far as I know, near 75% of "blacks" were described as "mixed-race", so they had been working for their biological fathers.

That is why they were known as Slave Rapers

Not something to be proud of. Raping a slave and then using your own son or daughter as a slave
Reprehensible

I don't say, that it is something that they can be proud of. But if we are talking about some kind of "inherited guilt", most of "black activists" are descendants of slave owners and slave rapists, and most of ordinary white citizens are not.

May be they are black racists because their great great grandfathers were white racists? Blood is thicker than water, you know.

 

[Silver Cat]

 

[Mushroom]

The Slaves in Antiquity had it a lot harder than those in America during antebellum days. Picking cotton may not have been an idyllic life, but it was a lot better than rowing in a galley.

You are aware that is a myth, right? Those that rowed the galleys were freemen, not slaves.

On the few occasions slaves were used, as in only 3 times over a period of 10 years. And each time it was slaves impressed from among Roman citizens, who were then given their freedom after the war was concluded.

And at least two other times they used slaves they had captured from the enemy. Both times freeing them prior to using them as rowers in the galleys.

Using books and movies as a source for history is a guaranteed fail if you find people that actually know history.

 

[rightwinger]

That is historically untrue
Those forts were not named in the spirit of reconciliation
They were established in the time period 1920-1944 over fifty years after the wars end

 

[AdultInTheRoom]

The history of Socialism the world over is to erase history they deem unpleasant.

Hitler burned books. He was a National Socialist.

Stalin literally had people painted out of official State Paintings. He was also hughly into being the thought police. No unpleasant ideas or thoughts expressed or it could literally cost you your life.

Mao burned books and also was thought police.

This is what the far left does. Erase history. And when taken to an extreme censor thoughts and speech with threats of imprisonment or death.

This is what the far left in America is either doing or what they want.

That's complete Bull****. That is what fascists do, autocrats and despots, regardless of whether they are left or right. It has no relationship whatsoever to the political left in the US or democratic socialism. You apparently don't even know the difference between communism and democratic socialism. Why don't you tell us about the book burning of some of the most socialist countries in the world: Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Canada, The Netherlands, France, New Zealand? Right-wingers, either out of ignorance or dishonesty, always try to equate socialist economic policies with despotic communists and fascists.

 

[anynameyouwish]

The history of Socialism the world over is to erase history they deem unpleasant.

Hitler burned books. He was a National Socialist.

Stalin literally had people painted out of official State Paintings. He was also hughly into being the thought police. No unpleasant ideas or thoughts expressed or it could literally cost you your life.

Mao burned books and also was thought police.

This is what the far left does. Erase history. And when taken to an extreme censor thoughts and speech with threats of imprisonment or death.

This is what the far left in America is either doing or what they want.

That's complete Bull****. That is what fascists do, autocrats and despots, regardless of whether they are left or right. It has no relationship whatsoever to the political left in the US or democratic socialism. You apparently don't even know the difference between communism and democratic socialism. Why don't you tell us about the book burning of some of the most socialist countries in the world: Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Canada, The Netherlands, France, New Zealand? Right-wingers, either out of ignorance or dishonesty, always try to equate socialist economic policies with despotic communists and fascists.

" Right-wingers, either out of ignorance or dishonesty, always try to equate socialist economic policies with despotic communists and fascists. "

They REFUSE to discuss Norway, Denmark...any successful country that has remained CAPITALISTIC and DEMOCRATIC while providing IMPORTANT SOCIALIST policies....

you say "Norway " and they say "so you love VENEZUELA, do you?!?!?)

 

[Polishprince]

The history of Socialism the world over is to erase history they deem unpleasant.

Hitler burned books. He was a National Socialist.

Stalin literally had people painted out of official State Paintings. He was also hughly into being the thought police. No unpleasant ideas or thoughts expressed or it could literally cost you your life.

Mao burned books and also was thought police.

This is what the far left does. Erase history. And when taken to an extreme censor thoughts and speech with threats of imprisonment or death.

This is what the far left in America is either doing or what they want.

That's complete Bull****. That is what fascists do, autocrats and despots, regardless of whether they are left or right. It has no relationship whatsoever to the political left in the US or democratic socialism. You apparently don't even know the difference between communism and democratic socialism. Why don't you tell us about the book burning of some of the most socialist countries in the world: Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Canada, The Netherlands, France, New Zealand? Right-wingers, either out of ignorance or dishonesty, always try to equate socialist economic policies with despotic communists and fascists.

" Right-wingers, either out of ignorance or dishonesty, always try to equate socialist economic policies with despotic communists and fascists. "

They REFUSE to discuss Norway, Denmark...any successful country that has remained CAPITALISTIC and DEMOCRATIC while providing IMPORTANT SOCIALIST policies....

you say "Norway " and they say "so you love VENEZUELA, do you?!?!?)

Venezuela has always been well loved by libs. Ditto with Cuba, the Soviet Union.

Did you know that Crazy Bernie actually honeymooned in the USSR? Millions trying to get out of the gulag and he goes there voluntarily. Vacationed in Cuba too.

Norway has a massive Welfare State, but they aren't really 'socialist' at all. If someone wants to give away their money to Welfare Queens driving Cadillacs to the grocery store with their Food stamps, that's stupid but it isn't really "socialism"

 

[flacaltenn]

Most insidious vestige of the Confederacy is the name of the Democrat party

Hahaha.... oh man, how stupid. Yes, it's Democrats crying like little bitches that everyone is trying to "destroy their heritage:".

Uh, no.

Even worse when YOU feel no shame for your party's past VITAL roles in secession, systematic racism, and abusive racial laws and policies... Change the ******* name.. BECAUSE every EDUCATED AMERICAN knows what you're hiding and the HYPOCRISY of your attempts to CONTINUE to divide this country...

 

[candycorn]

Most insidious vestige of the Confederacy is the name of the Democrat party

Hahaha.... oh man, how stupid. Yes, it's Democrats crying like little bitches that everyone is trying to "destroy their heritage:".

Uh, no.

Even worse when YOU feel no shame for your party's past VITAL roles in secession, systematic racism, and abusive racial laws and policies... Change the ******* name.. BECAUSE every EDUCATED AMERICAN knows what you're hiding and the HYPOCRISY of your attempts to CONTINUE to divide this country...

He has started threads hoping for a civil war? Oh wait, that is the blob supporters who keep starting those threads.

 

[Polishprince]

Most insidious vestige of the Confederacy is the name of the Democrat party

Hahaha.... oh man, how stupid. Yes, it's Democrats crying like little bitches that everyone is trying to "destroy their heritage:".

Uh, no.

Even worse when YOU feel no shame for your party's past VITAL roles in secession, systematic racism, and abusive racial laws and policies... Change the ******* name.. BECAUSE every EDUCATED AMERICAN knows what you're hiding and the HYPOCRISY of your attempts to CONTINUE to divide this country...

He has started threads hoping for a civil war? Oh wait, that is the blob supporters who keep starting those threads.

Actually its the libs that want to restart the old civil war. They are against reconciliation and want to humiliate the South. Unfortunately for them, there are no confederate left, the last one died in the 1950's. So they are looking to pick a fight with any country boy they can. But what the Libs fail to realize is that a Country Boy can survive.

 

[candycorn]

Most insidious vestige of the Confederacy is the name of the Democrat party

Hahaha.... oh man, how stupid. Yes, it's Democrats crying like little bitches that everyone is trying to "destroy their heritage:".

Uh, no.

Even worse when YOU feel no shame for your party's past VITAL roles in secession, systematic racism, and abusive racial laws and policies... Change the ******* name.. BECAUSE every EDUCATED AMERICAN knows what you're hiding and the HYPOCRISY of your attempts to CONTINUE to divide this country...

He has started threads hoping for a civil war? Oh wait, that is the blob supporters who keep starting those threads.

Actually its the libs that want to restart the old civil war. They are against reconciliation and want to humiliate the South. Unfortunately for them, there are no confederate left, the last one died in the 1950's. So they are looking to pick a fight with any country boy they can. But what the Libs fail to realize is that a Country Boy can survive.

This board tells a much different story.

 

[flacaltenn]

Most insidious vestige of the Confederacy is the name of the Democrat party

Hahaha.... oh man, how stupid. Yes, it's Democrats crying like little bitches that everyone is trying to "destroy their heritage:".

Uh, no.

Even worse when YOU feel no shame for your party's past VITAL roles in secession, systematic racism, and abusive racial laws and policies... Change the ******* name.. BECAUSE every EDUCATED AMERICAN knows what you're hiding and the HYPOCRISY of your attempts to CONTINUE to divide this country...

He has started threads hoping for a civil war? Oh wait, that is the blob supporters who keep starting those threads.

Can you read?? ""PAST leading roles in secession, systemic racism, and abusive racial laws and policies"" If we're now PURGING historical leading ACTORS in secession and systemic racism -- guess you folks have to ANTE IN here and DITCH the horrid memories of that NAME....

I did kinda state that the Democrats are STILL DIVIDING the country socially, culturally, racially, religiously, sexually ---- any way they can... Seems to be a DNA ISSUE with the party faithful being congenital DIVIDERS goin back to the Antebellum South....

What you morons don't KNOW -- is that most of Confed flag flying is done by LOYAL southern Dems who VOTE DEM because their Great and Grand and Pappies did and STILL HATE Republicans for shit that happened 200 years.. Dont' even CARE who's running.. They STILL ADMIRE Maddox and Wallace and Bull Connor... Those "manly" Dems.... Would defend any of THOSE statues..

I'm not lying... It's a cultural thing you have no clue about...

Makes sense there'd be those multigenerational hold-outs STILL FIGHTING over 200 yr old events in these times...

 

[anynameyouwish]

Most insidious vestige of the Confederacy is the name of the Democrat party

Hahaha.... oh man, how stupid. Yes, it's Democrats crying like little bitches that everyone is trying to "destroy their heritage:".

Uh, no.

Even worse when YOU feel no shame for your party's past VITAL roles in secession, systematic racism, and abusive racial laws and policies... Change the ******* name.. BECAUSE every EDUCATED AMERICAN knows what you're hiding and the HYPOCRISY of your attempts to CONTINUE to divide this country...

He has started threads hoping for a civil war? Oh wait, that is the blob supporters who keep starting those threads.

Can you read?? ""PAST leading roles in secession, systemic racism, and abusive racial laws and policies"" If we're now PURGING historical leading ACTORS in secession and systemic racism -- guess you folks have to ANTE IN here and DITCH the horrid memories of that NAME....

I did kinda state that the Democrats are STILL DIVIDING the country socially, culturally, racially, religiously, sexually ---- any way they can... Seems to be a DNA ISSUE with the party faithful being congenital DIVIDERS goin back to the Antebellum South....

What you morons don't KNOW -- is that most of Confed flag flying is done by LOYAL southern Dems who VOTE DEM because their Great and Grand and Pappies did and STILL HATE Republicans for shit that happened 200 years.. Dont' even CARE who's running.. They STILL ADMIRE Maddox and Wallace and Bull Connor... Those "manly" Dems.... Would defend any of THOSE statues..

I'm not lying... It's a cultural thing you have no clue about...

Makes sense there'd be those multigenerational hold-outs STILL FIGHTING over 200 yr old events in these times...

"What you morons don't KNOW -- is that most of Confed flag flying is done by LOYAL southern Dems who VOTE DEM because their Great and Grand and Pappies did and STILL HATE Republicans for shit that happened 200 years.. "


are you saying these trump supporters are DEMOCRATS?

 

[Scamp]

We need to ask......What have these men done to deserve such an honor?

AP HIll, Braxton Bragg, George Pickett, John Bell Hood......why should they be honored?

Defending ones sacred lands and homes from an invasion sent by a Tyrant is more honorable than invading your neighbor because a Tyrant said so.

 

[flacaltenn]

Most insidious vestige of the Confederacy is the name of the Democrat party

Hahaha.... oh man, how stupid. Yes, it's Democrats crying like little bitches that everyone is trying to "destroy their heritage:".

Uh, no.

Even worse when YOU feel no shame for your party's past VITAL roles in secession, systematic racism, and abusive racial laws and policies... Change the ******* name.. BECAUSE every EDUCATED AMERICAN knows what you're hiding and the HYPOCRISY of your attempts to CONTINUE to divide this country...

He has started threads hoping for a civil war? Oh wait, that is the blob supporters who keep starting those threads.

Can you read?? ""PAST leading roles in secession, systemic racism, and abusive racial laws and policies"" If we're now PURGING historical leading ACTORS in secession and systemic racism -- guess you folks have to ANTE IN here and DITCH the horrid memories of that NAME....

I did kinda state that the Democrats are STILL DIVIDING the country socially, culturally, racially, religiously, sexually ---- any way they can... Seems to be a DNA ISSUE with the party faithful being congenital DIVIDERS goin back to the Antebellum South....

What you morons don't KNOW -- is that most of Confed flag flying is done by LOYAL southern Dems who VOTE DEM because their Great and Grand and Pappies did and STILL HATE Republicans for shit that happened 200 years.. Dont' even CARE who's running.. They STILL ADMIRE Maddox and Wallace and Bull Connor... Those "manly" Dems.... Would defend any of THOSE statues..

I'm not lying... It's a cultural thing you have no clue about...

Makes sense there'd be those multigenerational hold-outs STILL FIGHTING over 200 yr old events in these times...

"What you morons don't KNOW -- is that most of Confed flag flying is done by LOYAL southern Dems who VOTE DEM because their Great and Grand and Pappies did and STILL HATE Republicans for shit that happened 200 years.. "


are you saying these trump supporters are DEMOCRATS?

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I'm saying there is a southern culture and identity and that ALL the people who still USE that flag as a sign of that identity are not for slavery and very few are supremacists..

And YEAH -- since the Dem party obnoxiously stereotypes ALL Southerners as Ignorant, Bible/Gun/Nascar loving Rednecks living in trailers --- A LOT OF Dems feel betrayed and abused.. The Dem party ATTACKS THEIR OWN in the south... And is constantly LOSING because they won't even SUPPORT southern candidates...

So large numbers of remaining Dems ARE rushing "to the other side" because the Dem party HATES them apparently.. Particularly the under 40 crowd of Southern Belles and Bubbahs MIGHT BE at their 1st REPUBLICAN rally in the family in over 200 years !!! LOL...

 

[rightwinger]

We need to ask......What have these men done to deserve such an honor?

AP HIll, Braxton Bragg, George Pickett, John Bell Hood......why should they be honored?

Defending ones sacred lands and homes from an invasion sent by a Tyrant is more honorable than invading your neighbor because a Tyrant said so.

Defending the right to keep other human beings as slaves is the ultimate tyranny

 

[Scamp]

We need to ask......What have these men done to deserve such an honor?

AP HIll, Braxton Bragg, George Pickett, John Bell Hood......why should they be honored?

Defending ones sacred lands and homes from an invasion sent by a Tyrant is more honorable than invading your neighbor because a Tyrant said so.

Defending the right to keep other human beings as slaves is the ultimate tyranny

The Confederacy had slavery for 4 years.
The USA had slavery for 89 years.