Time To Get Serious About Language Learning?

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

That is patently false.

That is your opinion, not a fact.

I had ESL students who could not pass the competency class in order to receive a high school diploma in FL.

 

[Unkotare]

That is your opinion, not a fact.
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I've been teaching ESL (among other things) for over 28 years. How about you?

 

[Unkotare]

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I had ESL students who could not pass the competency class in order to receive a high school diploma in FL.

And some students don't pass History, or Math, or Biology, etc.

 

[rightwinger]

There simply is not much use for farmers and ranchers to learn foreign languages if there is no one in the community to talk to!

How do they speak to their farm workers if they can’t speak Spanish?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I've been teaching ESL (among other things) for over 28 years. How about you?

I taught for 21 years and was an assistant principal who ran the testing program. My school had 3260 students. How about you?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

And some students don't pass History, or Math, or Biology, etc.

Yes, but we did cartwheels when an ESL student actually received a diploma. They were few and far between.

 

[Unkotare]

I taught for 21 years .....

Taught ESL?

 

[rightwinger]

Yes, but we did cartwheels when an ESL student actually received a diploma. They were few and far between.

Was that the students fault or yours?

 

[Unkotare]

......how about you?

Um, I've already told you.

 

[Unkotare]

Yes, but we did cartwheels when an ESL student actually received a diploma. They were few and far between.

Nonsense. These days, students can receive a seal of biliteracy on their diploma if they pass a proficiency test in their senior year. More and more jobs across the country each year look for or require a minimum of bilingualism for certain jobs. Can't hide from the future.

 

[Unkotare]

How do they speak to their farm workers if they can’t speak Spanish?

Many farmers export of import many things from a variety of countries around the world (hopefully not Russia any longer).

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Um, I've already told you.

You gave your opinion That is all.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Nonsense. These days, students can receive a seal of biliteracy on their diploma if they pass a proficiency test in their senior year. More and more jobs across the country each year look for or require a minimum of bilingualism for certain jobs. Can't hide from the future.

That is your district or state. Have a nice day after you put that broad brush away.

 

[Unkotare]

You gave your opinion That is all.

Based on decades of direct and ongoing experience. Why does that seem to bother you?

 

[Unkotare]

That is your district or state. Have a nice day after you put that broad brush away.

I have visited schools all across the country (and the world) over the years. Look, you know what you know and I know what I know. Different areas of expertise. It's nothing personal.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Taught ESL?

In Florida, all teachers in core content areas must complete ESL training back when I taught there.

You need to expand your horizons!

 

[Unkotare]

In Florida, all teachers in core content areas must complete ESL training back when I taught there.

You need to expand your horizons!

SEI certification is great, but it's not teaching ESL.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

SEI certification is great, but it's not teaching ESL.

That's fine with me if you wish to continue wallowing in your ignorance. I am done arguing with Mr. Know-it-all.

 

[Unkotare]

That's fine with me if you wish to continue wallowing in your ignorance. I am done arguing with Mr. Know-it-all.

What "ignorance" are you talking about? How is greater, longer, and more specific to the topic "ignorance"?

 

[Unkotare]

...... I am done arguing with Mr. Know-it-all.

We're not arguing, I'm informing you and you are getting defensive for some reason.