Time to attack iran

Yes it is! You would have gone long ago. Seems that with you, stupidity knows no bounds.******* sabre rattling armchair warrior!

Don't think so asshole. I served over 20 years, and would gladly go back in on an iran mission. Disappointed that a fellow vet would act like such a ******* waiver...then again, we saw lots of those in iraq '91, and even more in '03...
 
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the iranian election had an 85% voter turn out.

Fact; the highest voter turn out of any democratic country in any election.

The people voted in ahmadinejah in a landslide election.

Just face it. He is wildly popular and the clear winner!!! :eusa_angel:

prove it asshole.
Disprove it dickweed. :eusa_angel:
 
Idiot asshole YOU made a claim about iran's election, not me you ******* moron.

YOU are the one that needs to prove it its true...stupid ******* ****. :cuckoo:

Actually it was you that made the claim that Iranian citizens don't have the right to vote, so the burden of proof is on you.

LOL, you walked right into this one, moron do the one thing you cannot do in iran, namely VOTE for the elected official you select, and actually have them enter the government.
 
Actually it was you that made the claim that Iranian citizens don't have the right to vote, so the burden of proof is on you.

Wrong, moron. He has made that claim many times - perhaps you are its sock puppet?

And when are you going to answer the question in my sig, idiot?

When are you going to stop insulting people?
 
Idiot asshole YOU made a claim about iran's election, not me you ******* moron.

YOU are the one that needs to prove it its true...stupid ******* ****. :cuckoo:

Actually it was you that made the claim that Iranian citizens don't have the right to vote, so the burden of proof is on you.

LOL, you walked right into this one, moron do the one thing you cannot do in iran, namely VOTE for the elected official you select, and actually have them enter the government.

Kev, I'm not saying one way or the other here.....

but couldn't we say the same thing about Stalin or Castro?
 
Idiot asshole YOU made a claim about iran's election, not me you ******* moron.

YOU are the one that needs to prove it its true...stupid ******* ****. :cuckoo:

Actually it was you that made the claim that Iranian citizens don't have the right to vote, so the burden of proof is on you.

LOL, you walked right into this one, moron do the one thing you cannot do in iran, namely VOTE for the elected official you select, and actually have them enter the government.

Kev, I'm not saying one way or the other here.....

but couldn't we say the same thing about Stalin or Castro?

I'm not sure I understand what you're asking.
 
Kev, I'm not saying one way or the other here.....

but couldn't we say the same thing about Stalin or Castro?

I'm not sure I understand what you're asking.

One could not prove those in Stailn's Russia had no right to vote.

Maybe not, but I don't think there's any doubt that a vote was held in Iran. Now whether or not those votes were fairly counted may be questionable. However, rhodescholar claimed that the Iranian people have no right to vote for their elected officials, so I'd expect that he'd have some evidence to back that statement up.
 
Attack Iran? Here is your main point. You are a fear mongering war mongering ******* moron.Like it or not I will be here, Gunny willing, to push back against your kind of stupidity.

Its too bad Gunny can't just remove people for their stupidity, you'd be the first one gone...

I am not the one illegally developing nuclear weapons, threatening other nations, supplying terrorists to conduct attacks against civilians in FOUR other countries, no that's iran.

You're the emotional-driven asshole who cannot provide an iota of substance to any posts, I feel bad for liberals to have mentally-limited garbage like you on their team that they have to contantly apologize for... :cuckoo:

I'm sure you are legendary in your own mind.

The only serious I can take of you is how crazy the stands you advocate are. I don't need to document the obvious.

Even with the pathetic neg rep you offered I gained over 150 points on this thread. No one offered to appologize for me.
 
I have a hard time understanding how Iran is any kind of threat to the world.

Even with a nuclear bomb, if they are somehow successful at building one to completion, they can only blow something up once.

After that, they get annihilated.

What's the motivation for a country like Iran to only achieve the potential to cause a minute amount of damage, as opposed to capabilities of their would-be retaliators?

The very second that it becomes obvious that they have made a move toward gaining some kind of real and tangible stranglehold on Mid East stability, they are toast.

The debate is really just a question of what's more acceptable...pre-emptively attacking them with the possibility that they had NOTHING, thereby wasting thousands of lives and probably hundreds of billions of dollars if not more...or falling back, and they potentially DO have something and they blow something up somewhere, only to be subsequently annihilated.

What the advocates of a pre-emptive attack are going to have to forgive me for, is my hesitancy to get behind such a thing in the face of the massive failure the pre-Iraq war intelligence, and assumptions, turned out to be.

I'm just not sure I can stomach another one of those kinds of mistakes. Refusing inspections does not make you guilty. It didn't make Saddam guilty, and it doesn't make Ahmadinejad guilty.

I don't agree with the UN's existence PERIOD, let alone our membership. So if UN inspectors said they demanded to come into my country and inspect me, I'd tell them to suck a fat dick.

Why should A-jad be different? Because we don't trust him? I don't trust Obama, either. No one on the right does. Should the right advocate that a foreign force perform a regime change in that case?
 
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The only serious I can take of you is how crazy the stands you advocate are. I don't need to document the obvious.

"Document the obvious"? There are alot of very powerful elected officials worldwide strongly advocating and considering a military strike on iran. I guess to a pacifist, anyone who advocates such a notion is a lunatic....:eusa_eh:

Even with the pathetic neg rep you offered I gained over 150 points on this thread. No one offered to appologize for me.

Not only are you pure emotion like a child, but you cannot count either; you have 9 Rep points, not 150... :lol:
 
The only serious I can take of you is how crazy the stands you advocate are. I don't need to document the obvious.

"Document the obvious"? There are alot of very powerful elected officials worldwide strongly advocating and considering a military strike on iran. I guess to a pacifist, anyone who advocates such a notion is a lunatic....:eusa_eh:

Even with the pathetic neg rep you offered I gained over 150 points on this thread. No one offered to appologize for me.

Not only are you pure emotion like a child, but you cannot count either; you have 9 Rep points, not 150... :lol:

I guess to a pacifist

You don't know me in the slightest.

anyone who advocates such a notion is a lunatic

That's a fair statement.

you have 9 Rep points, not 150...

Did I say "rep points"?

You are so incredibly retarded.

It really pisses you off that a black man has twice your IQ and is in control of your pathetic existance...doesn't it?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: forever a loser ...I wouldn't trust you with a dull spoon.
 
I have a hard time understanding how Iran is any kind of threat to the world.

This is due to your lack of knowledge of the current middle eastern situation.

Even with a nuclear bomb, if they are somehow successful at building one to completion, they can only blow something up once. After that, they get annihilated.

I have gone thru this so many times....sigh...

First off, since the iranian fascists refuse IAEA inspections of their facilities as required by the NPT(see my sig question to the moron KK), there is no way a nuke detonation in the middle east can be traced back to iran.

Second, the other major concern is not that iran will fire an ICBM with a nuclear payload, it is that they could hand a nuke to one of their numerous terrorist proxies working to de-stabilize the middle east, and then claim "it wasn't ours" - and again, without inspections there is no way to trace it back to them. They could claim Hamas bought it on the black market....

Further, the protection of a nuclear umbrella would give hamas and hezbollah enormous cover and clout to strengthen the size and ferocity of their attacks against both israel - and the West in general. They would no longer have to fear a strong military response with iran's nuclear-powered backing,

Lastly, the ability of iran to be able to launch ICBMs into europe carrying nuclear payloads is a terrible thought - just ask japan what it is like to live next to an insane asylum run by a nuclear-armed maniac.

The debate is really just a question of what's more acceptable...pre-emptively attacking them with the possibility that they had NOTHING, thereby wasting thousands of lives and probably hundreds of billions of dollars if not more...or falling back, and they potentially DO have something and they blow something up somewhere, only to be subsequently annihilated.

They are ALREADY running thousands of centrifuges; it is no longer a question of if, but when - they will have enough enriched uranium - and plutonium from their Arak heavy water plant - to construct both bombs as well as nuclear-tipped warheads.

What the advocates of a pre-emptive attack are going to have to forgive me for, is my hesitancy to get behind such a thing in the face of the massive failure the pre-Iraq war intelligence, and assumptions, turned out to be.

Having worked in a clandestine capacity for so long, perhaps I am more forgiving of intelligence estimates, as almost every major Western and arabic intelligence agency believed iraq had WMD. This was not purely a CIA error.

Further, if you look at most of the major errors the CIA has made with respect to these scenarios over the past 10-15 years, it has been to mis-judge the other way, as in the cases of both india and pakistan, who the Agency thought would take FAR longer to develop nuke weapons.

Funny how I do not hear the pacifists mentioning those mistakes.

I'm just not sure I can stomach another one of those kinds of mistakes. Refusing inspections does not make you guilty. It didn't make Saddam guilty, and it doesn't make Ahmadinejad guilty.

LOL, Saddam was guilty of much worse - he DID use WMD on the kurds, remember? And I have news for you, the CIA makes a shitload of mistakes, and correct calls as well - they just don't make the headline of the NY Times.

I don't agree with the UN's existence PERIOD, let alone our membership. So if UN inspectors said they demanded to come into my country and inspect me, I'd tell them to suck a fat dick.

Except iran signed the NPT accord, which legally binds them to inspections...
 
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You don't know me in the slightest.

You haven't shown any statements in this thread to be anything BUT a pacifist...

Did I say "rep points"? You are so incredibly retarded.

What "points" were you referring to? And frankly, who really gives a flying **** - what is it, your mommy gives you a cookie when you get alot of positive notes on USMB? :cuckoo:

It really pisses you off that a black man has twice your IQ and is in control of your pathetic existance...doesn't it?

For one, I support Obama as my president, as I do like him though i disagree with some of his policies. Nice thread derail try, though idiot.
 
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