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[Martin Eden Mercury]

Question unanswered: How many times is the word "republic" mentioned in the US Constitution?

Fact not recognized: The Soviet Union was indeed a Republic.

Fact ignored: everyone knows the pledge of allegiance

 

[Martin Eden Mercury]

I will talk your own language idiot. I definitely know there are different types of republic.

Why does our pledge of allegiance say the word Republic in it. When did it originate? Why do you equate it to a dictatorship?

The Pledge of Allegiance was written in August 1892 by the socialist minister Francis Bellamy (1855-1931). It was originally published in The Youth's Companion on September 8, 1892. Bellamy had hoped that the pledge would be used by citizens in any country.

In its original form it read:


In 1923, the words, "the Flag of the United States of America" were added. At this time it read:


In 1954, in response to the Communist threat of the times, President Eisenhower encouraged Congress to add the words "under God," creating the 31-word pledge we say today. Bellamy's daughter objected to this alteration. Today it reads:


Section 4 of the Flag Code states:


The original Bellamy salute, first described in 1892 by Francis Bellamy, who authored the original Pledge, began with a military salute, and after reciting the words "to the flag," the arm was extended toward the flag.

You and others have asked "How many times is the word "democracy" mentioned in the US Constitution?

So reason demands one ask you "How many times is the word "republic" mentioned in the US Constitution?"

 

[Martin Eden Mercury]

There your roots show. You feel kicked on by my remarks so you have to tell me what Democrats say to you. Trump is not a threat to this republic. He was elected again.

So you believe a threat to the republic could never be elected President?



Oh my god! Do you even realize what you are saying?

 

[Robert W]

No. It’s not. When the people elect representatives of under a Constitution, it is called a Constitutional republic.

Helping us both.

What was a “Democracy” in the Eighteenth Century?​

According to James Madison, democracy was a form of government where “the people meet and exercise the government in person” and decide issues by voting.2 The Framers were not impressed by this system. Alexander Hamilton said that “ancient democracies” lacked “one feature of good government. Their very character was tyranny.”3 John Adams called direct democracies “impracticable.”4 James Madison saw direct democracies as “spectacles of turbulence and contention.”5

 

[Robert W]

You and others have asked "How many times is the word "democracy" mentioned in the US Constitution?

So reason demands one ask you "How many times is the word "republic" mentioned in the US Constitution?"

Let's first get rid of Democracy.

Let the Founders help you figure it out.

What was a “Democracy” in the Eighteenth Century?​

According to James Madison, democracy was a form of government where “the people meet and exercise the government in person” and decide issues by voting.2 The Framers were not impressed by this system. Alexander Hamilton said that “ancient democracies” lacked “one feature of good government. Their very character was tyranny.”3 John Adams called direct democracies “impracticable.”4 James Madison saw direct democracies as “spectacles of turbulence and contention.”5

 

[Martin Eden Mercury]

You BackAgain claim my post:

We have one more pretending to be knowledgeable in constitutional matters and on the US constitution itself.

Pay attention here. Even proven conservative voices that are not hostile to Levin, have written things like "Mark R. Levin, a Great But Misguided American."

And, of course, that simply an empty and dishonest claim.

and you further claim:

What you comprehend about our Constitution is sketchy — at most.

Yet here we found you being so brilliant:

Mark Levin is the Jethro Bodine of constitutional lawyers.

Nah. He’s more like the last of the few great Constitutional scholars.

What he said causes you to cringe because you don’t care for truth.

 

[Robert W]

So you believe a threat to the republic could never be elected President?

Thank you for being accurate by calling it the Republic.
Trump has never been a threat as president. Not Americans at any rate.
Trump is now working to repair the broken Government. Recall the Democrats call immigration broken. But more is broken than immigration. Democrats keep inviting in illegals who are criminals in way to many cases plus they have a perfect entry system they refuse to use. Legal immigrates use the legal system and get to stay here.

 

[Martin Eden Mercury]

Sounds like your excuse for why you are misguided. I don't know you enough to call you great.

You post this as you ignore: Even proven conservative voices that are not hostile to Levin, have written things like "Mark R. Levin, a Great But Misguided American."

 

[Martin Eden Mercury]

Tell us why that “question” makes any difference.

I wonder why the Constitution allows new states to enter the Union provided that they (among other things) guarantee a republican form of government?

I doubt you even grasp the import.

Article IV

Article IV Relationships Between the States​

• Section 4 Republican Form of Government​

  The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

I'd ask who and what are the sources that inform you - knowledge on this subject? Who have you read, who do you follow? But I fear you might struggle mightily to impress.

Now on the subject at hand - Why? Why profess ignorance of an elephant in the room?

You(?) and others have asked "How many times is the word "democracy" mentioned in the US Constitution?

So reason demands one ask you "How many times is the word "republic" mentioned in the US Constitution?"

Nowhere are the words "democracy" or "republic" mentioned in the US Constitution.Of course the phrase "republican form of government" is mentioned - -once. In the debates and arguments over the proposed new constitution, "democracy" is mentioned as is the word "democratic" and not always with any negative connotations. The context of the discussions reveal much.

So I suggest Sir, that it is you and not I (as you've posited), who is unable to comprehend anything about our Constitution, your supposed knowledge being what you say - "is sketchy at most."

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

SECTION. 2. 1The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States,and the Electors in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for Electors of the most numerous Branch of the State Legislature

So they still vote democratically as we do for so many things. You don't understand that federal and republican government relies on voting to choose our representatives.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The first BS is that we are a Democracy. I proved we are not a Democracy. Democracy is not mentioned by the Constitution.

I have shown our government operates of democratic principles including voting.

 

[Martin Eden Mercury]

Now that is a post I can agree with you. The system the founding fathers based this country on is largely based on the Roman Republic. It is why so many of our political terms are Latin based: Senate, Veto, etc. Separation of powers are also based on the Roman Republic.

Representative democracy is not a full democracy but one based on rules regarding the election of representatives to run the government.

I think you just have an issue with the word “democracy” in the term “Representative democracy.”

I suggest the system is based more on the British system than on any Roman republic.

 

[Martin Eden Mercury]

You have an issue with the word “republican.”

You project that people do. It says more about you than it does anyone else.

 

[Martin Eden Mercury]

Still why do you get offended by the word Republic?

You too

 

[Martin Eden Mercury]

I am not offended by the word “republic.” Far from it. My only issue is debating the type of republic we are. I think we may be talking past each other. We are a Republic based upon a constitution which enshrines the principles of representative democracy. That is all. I don’t how that statement is controversial.

They will ignore this.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

See even you know it is a Republic. Thanks for admitting it. Say, what is your original language?

Yes, a democratic, federal republic.

 

[Martin Eden Mercury]

Why do people say we are a republic not a democracy?

Because they are either looking to score cheap points in worthless arguments, or they have been programmed to see the term "democracy" as an existential threat, when it is clearly not.

 

[Martin Eden Mercury]

We don’t have a representative “democracy.”

Our form of government is still a Constitutional republic.

We use representative forms of democracy to select our representatives in government. You people are stuck on intellectually weak arguments - circle jerks when it comes to this.

All along since the beginning of this thread I have stated the obvious - we all know the pledge of allegiance.

 

[Martin Eden Mercury]

When they say silly shit like “threat to our democracy,” they ARE claiming that we have a democratic form of government.

We don’t.

We do use a type of democracy in our systems of government and politics. You are playing games.

 

[Martin Eden Mercury]

The Constitution sets out the principles of how we elect our representatives. If we can vote, we have a form of democracy.

Thank you