Those of you who oppose Trumps solution to the Iran problem post your solutions here

The scary part is that they are deluded and dumb - and vote. I bet 1/3rd of Americans - the radical left - would vote for Crockett or AOC over Vance or Rubio.
Oh, easily.
Our side has a MUCH harder sell because our side has rational people who have to be sold on something.
 
I wonder how we would react if another country would bomb Washington, DC, and kill the President and most of Congress, and then tell us that this is a golden opportunity, don't let it pass. Some would be happy and dance in the street, some would be angered, but I think most would not like the forced action from an outside source. I think that people everywhere just don't like to be fucked with and want to be left alone. There are people in charge in every country that worm their way to the top and just don't want this.
First, DC and the country would have to be overthrown by a dictatorial, oppressive Muslim theocracy bent on destroying all aspects of western culture — even if that means destroying the world.
Then you can apply your analogy.
 
I was just listening to an analysis that pointed out that the Gulf States were all promised protection by the US but right now they are being bombed and the US is powerless to prevent those attacks.

There's a growing belief I'm seeing that this whole affair could see the US pushed out, its bases closed as the region wakes up realizes that their relationship with the US (a country which is just a proxy for the Zionist extremists) has led to this.
 
I posted links twice showing Moroner the reign of terrorism the Iranian Regime has unleashed all over the world for 40+ years, and he just ignores it.
You’re lying. I addressed it.
He seems to think that unless Americans are “terrorized,” we should allow the Islamic Terror Regime to keep killing tens of thousands of people, and threatening to nuke America and Israel.
I stand by my statement that Americans don’t feel terrorized. It’s relevant.
Just look at how crazy the Islamic terrorists of Iran are: they’re bombing Middle East countries all over the place and created even more enemies!

If Israel had waited for Jordan, Syria, and Egypt to strike first in ‘67, there would be no Israel today. Sometimes you have to strike savage regimes FIRST in order to save yourself.

Moroner and these other leftists are like Chamberlain.
You’re being emotional, and using highly charged rhetoric to scare us into accepting Trump’s decision.
 
You’re lying. I addressed it.

I stand by my statement that Americans don’t feel terrorized. It’s relevant.

You’re being emotional, and using highly charged rhetoric to scare us into accepting Trump’s decision.
I’ve had it with you. You are the most deluded poster on this forum.
 
I was just listening to an analysis that pointed out that the Gulf States were all promised protection by the US but right now they are being bombed and the US is powerless to prevent those attacks.

There's a growing belief I'm seeing that this whole affair could see the US pushed out, its bases closed as the region wakes up realizes that their relationship with the US (a country which is just a proxy for the Zionist extremists) has led to this.
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I’ve had it with you. You are the most deluded poster on this forum.
There’s nothing deluded about saying that Americans don’t feel particularly threatened by Iran.

And pointing to sporadic attacks on deployed service members doesn’t really change that.

You don’t want to wrestle with this point because you want people to be too afraid to consider Trump’s actions logically.
 
There’s nothing deluded about saying that Americans don’t feel particularly threatened by Iran.
That doesn't mean they're right.
It's like the opposite of the COVID panic.
A lot of Americans have neither the time nor the inclination to do threat assessments to the country.
That's what we pay Trump and Hegsetch and Gabbard and Rubio for.
 
There’s nothing deluded about saying that Americans don’t feel particularly threatened by Iran.

And pointing to sporadic attacks on deployed service members doesn’t really change that.

You don’t want to wrestle with this point because you want people to be too afraid to consider Trump’s actions logically.
You think it’s acceptable to let an Islamic maniac to murder tens of thousands of people, oppress millions, and threaten to kill millions more by building nukes unless Americans are “terrorized”?

Hoe about doing the correct, moral thing?

Good thing people didn’t think the way you do in the 1940s, or all 9 million European Jews would have been exterminated. But hey….not your problem, amirite?
 
First lets state the problem
Iran has an offensive nuclear bomb program
Main sponsor of terror by use of proxies to destabilize the Middle east
Killed over 1000 Americans
Murdered 32000 of its own citizens
Funds Hamas Hezbollah and the Houthis terror
Intends to dominate the Middle East under one government them
Military Action Against Israel and Arab States
  • Direct Assaults: Iran has launched hundreds of ballistic missiles and suicide drones, targeting major population centers and infrastructure in Israel, including the city of Beit Shemesh and areas near Tel Aviv and Haifa.
  • Targeting Regional Allies: Iran has attacked nations across the Gulf, including Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, and Jordan, in response to their perceived support for the U.S.-Israel actions. These attacks have struck civilian areas, including hotels in Dubai and near Kuwait International Airport.
  • Maritime Threats: Iran has targeted shipping in the Strait of Hormuz and the Red Sea, causing severe disruptions to vital trade routes.
  • Casualties: Reports indicate that Iranian strikes have resulted in at least 12 deaths in Israel and numerous casualties across the Gulf states.
    American Jewish Committee (AJC) +3
Targeting U.S. Interests
  • Attacks on Bases: Iran has targeted U.S. military facilities across the Middle East, including the Fifth Fleet headquarters in Bahrain, and bases in Qatar and Kuwait.
  • Retaliatory Stance: Iranian officials have declared that all U.S. military bases and assets in the region are "legitimate targets" in response to the U.S.-Israeli strikes.
    American Jewish Committee (AJC) +1
Long-Standing Aggression and Strategic Goals
  • Nuclear Ambitions: Despite the ongoing, direct conflict, the overarching driver of tension has been Iran's sustained pursuit of nuclear technology, which the U.S. and Israel have sought to dismantle.
  • Proxy Warfare: Iran has long utilized a network of armed groups—including Hezbollah in Lebanon, Hamas, and the Houthis in Yemen—to project power and destabilize the region.
  • Support for Russia: Iran has provided tens of thousands of suicide drones to Russia for use in its war against Ukraine.
    American Jewish Committee (AJC)

Now what is your solution
Iran does noot have an offensive nuclear weapons plan.

If I were leading Iran, I would rectify that asap. Nuclear Iran would put an end to American and Isreali brinksmanship.

Trump should never have let Netanyahu con him into doing Isreal’s bidding.

And the best outcome would be abandoning this war. it’s already out of control.

And the Trump regieme has no plan.
 
That doesn't mean they're right.
It's like the opposite of the COVID panic.
A lot of Americans have neither the time nor the inclination to do threat assessments to the country.
That's what we pay Trump and Hegsetch and Gabbard and Rubio for.
It is the opposite of the COVID pandemic.

1.2 million Americans died from COVID.
 
15th post
Iran has no friends except for Russia, China and democrats.
Stupid.

Iran has no freiends.

Trying to make Trump’s starting a war into a domestic partisan issue is dishonest, parochial, and irrelevant.
 
You think it’s acceptable to let an Islamic maniac to murder tens of thousands of people, oppress millions, and threaten to kill millions more by building nukes unless Americans are “terrorized”?

Hoe about doing the correct, moral thing?

Good thing people didn’t think the way you do in the 1940s, or all 9 million European Jews would have been exterminated. But hey….not your problem, amirite?
So we are back to being world police?

It feels like MAGA and American first is in the midst of a bait and switch.

The only thing that you mentioned that affects Americans is a nuclear threat, but Trump said that was taken care of last year and anyone who disagreed was attacked and ridiculed by people like you.
 
No, you’re the most antisemitic and dishonest, you Muslim from the UK.
Yes you said that once before but never did manage to quote anything antisemitic in any post of mine.

But to disagree with your hysteria is to be antisemitic, that's all that's going on, you are being disagreed with, how cruel the world can be, you poor woman.

Call me names madam, it's all your good at anyway.
 
Iran does noot have an offensive nuclear weapons plan.

If I were leading Iran, I would rectify that asap. Nuclear Iran would put an end to American and Isreali brinksmanship.

Trump should never have let Netanyahu con him into doing Isreal’s bidding.

And the best outcome would be abandoning this war. it’s already out of control.

And the Trump regieme has no plan.
OMFG! This leftist is so deluded that he wanted the Islamic Terror Regime to get a nuke!

I’m incredulous that Americans can be so stupid.
 

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