Those Darned Rich Folks

[impuretrash]

Seems like there’s lots of resentment towards “billionaires” on the right these days, too.

Lol
And the funny thing is, generally people are at the station in life they deserve…

I have never been able to understand envy, It always had seems so silly to me. What does what someone else has have to do with me?

Worse yet, using the biggest monopoly ever to exist(the federal government) To read distribute? Now that’s a **** up even a child can see...

Lol...read distribute

 

[jc456]

Seems like there’s lots of resentment towards “billionaires” on the right these days, too.

Part of what made the ‘debate’ last night such a performance art joke was the pretense of a bunch of rich people competing to sound like the one who resents rich people the most in their quest to win a job that would make them richer.

Yep,
Progressivism/socialism is all about control and hypocrisy.

power

 

[Daryl Hunt]

What kind of an idiot thinks he has a chance of winning by promising a 97.5% tax rate on billionaires?

Besides some crotchety old curmudgeon socialist, I mean.

Hmm, every time one of you Rumpsters throw out a number it grows and grows each time. The real number is 70% on anything earned in a fiscal year above X million dollars after adjustment. That is the figure that was suggested. Of course, you don't remember when the real figure was 90% for anything over $250,000 do you? It paid for frivolous things like Water Works (dams, city water works, canals, etc.), Interstates, Bridges, Put Men on the Moon, paid for at least 3 wars, and much much more. Today, we can't even afford to fix our bridges or replace the pipes that are eaten up with rust and lead. In order to get an Astronaut onto the Space Station we have to thumb a ride with the Russians. We can't afford to effectively help in major emergencies anymore.

Although this was done by the entertainment world, it hits the nail right on the head.



Can you imagine if any Politician were to say this today? As true as this is, just how long would they exist in the political world if they did. Yes, the Rich paid for most of the really great programs that was created with a little help from everyone else. America WAS the greatest Country in the world. We aren't anymore. We could be again but not by following the losers we see attempting to be leaders today. And this includes Rump.

Oh boy, you Libs are so incredibly dim witted. Screaming that the problem of wealth inequality can be fixed via a new tax schedule is completely inane. Furthermore, Our debt is not a product of waterworks, bridge construction, wars or space travel, or anything YOU mentioned. The debt is a product of the biggest group of spending that you never even mentioned- ENTITLEMENTS, welfare, Medicare, Medicaid, social security, food stamps, etc.

MOST of the kids parents on the school lunch assist program have jobs. MOST of the people using various welfare programs have jobs. MOST...... Almost ALL have jobs. The problem isn't with the welfare of the workers, it's the welfare of the employers. If the Employer can't afford to pay the worker enough so the worker can afford to live on maybe that business shouldn't be in business in the first place. So the Government subsidizes the Employer by giving the worker subsidized income. Meanwhile, the employer buys another home in Malibu, a new Yacht in Florida, a Chalet in Aspen, goes to a nice South Sea Vacation for the 4th time this year. When they raised the minimum wage here a few years ago, they interviewed a person that owned a chain of McDonalds who said it would make it hard to stay in business. He would have to cut costs in his business by laying off people and raising prices. He was at the Air Port headed for his 6th vacation to Hawaii with his Family for the year. Not once did he bring up about cutting back on his luxuries. What's funny now, McDonalds has become a higher than the minimum wage job today due to competition for workers.

You want to slow down on the Entitlements? End Corporate Welfare. But you don't want to talk about that part do you.

You made a bunch of assertions, you provided ZERO links to support any of them, and you are just plain stupid. Other than that, good post.

You must live in a cave and get spoon fed your information. 2 days ago, the school assistance lunch program was covered on a local news station. A few years ago, the McDonalds thing was covered on a local news report. Sorry, it wasn't covered on Foxnews, Hannity or Rush since it's completely contrary to their BS they spew. It's just local where you have to live somewhere to learn about it locally. That means it's probably pretty well true just about everywhere. If you require a link then you wouldn't believe a link if I gave you one since it would not be an approved Hannity/Rush link. Turn off the NPR, Turn off Foxnews, dump the Cable. There is a whole other world by watching and listening to local TV and Radio stations.

 

[Toro]

What PC has her head stuck three feet in the sand about is that the nativist right is spinning a narrative about liberal “billionaires” imposing their social values on the working class. They don’t just say “liberal,” they have to include “billionaires” because this language stirs resentment by classifying them as outsiders who are trying to destroy them, their lifestyles, their communities.

Whereas the left stirs class resentment to exploit economic issues, the right is using class resentment to exploit social issues.

 

[Rustic]

What kind of an idiot thinks he has a chance of winning by promising a 97.5% tax rate on billionaires?

Besides some crotchety old curmudgeon socialist, I mean.

Hmm, every time one of you Rumpsters throw out a number it grows and grows each time. The real number is 70% on anything earned in a fiscal year above X million dollars after adjustment. That is the figure that was suggested. Of course, you don't remember when the real figure was 90% for anything over $250,000 do you? It paid for frivolous things like Water Works (dams, city water works, canals, etc.), Interstates, Bridges, Put Men on the Moon, paid for at least 3 wars, and much much more. Today, we can't even afford to fix our bridges or replace the pipes that are eaten up with rust and lead. In order to get an Astronaut onto the Space Station we have to thumb a ride with the Russians. We can't afford to effectively help in major emergencies anymore.

Although this was done by the entertainment world, it hits the nail right on the head.



Can you imagine if any Politician were to say this today? As true as this is, just how long would they exist in the political world if they did. Yes, the Rich paid for most of the really great programs that was created with a little help from everyone else. America WAS the greatest Country in the world. We aren't anymore. We could be again but not by following the losers we see attempting to be leaders today. And this includes Rump.

Oh boy, you Libs are so incredibly dim witted. Screaming that the problem of wealth inequality can be fixed via a new tax schedule is completely inane. Furthermore, Our debt is not a product of waterworks, bridge construction, wars or space travel, or anything YOU mentioned. The debt is a product of the biggest group of spending that you never even mentioned- ENTITLEMENTS, welfare, Medicare, Medicaid, social security, food stamps, etc.

I'd like to see a comparison of the military budget VS welfare programs. We do spend an awful lot on the military.

Since you were to lazy to google it, I will provide it for you. We spend at least 3 times more on mandatory entitlements than we do on military. The military budget is part of the discretionary spending, and is about 15% of the total budget. Mandatory entitlement spending is Near 60% of the total spending, and it will continue to rise. Don’t let anyone tell you the military budget is the cause of the deficit.

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You can take out the 38% for SSI and Medicare. I paid for those for over 50 years and I still pay into it even after I receive the benefits. Those aren't "Benefits". That's my money. I paid for it. That's not the Governments money. It's not Tax Money. It's supposed to be like a trust fund. Now, redo your figures using real data instead of the baked figures.

True, We all have been paying into that shit our whole adult lives. And that’s the problem I’m 50 years old I’ll never see a penny from it I’m fine with that. But I would gladly quit paying into it right now and never see anything I’ve paid into it. **** your Social Security and Medicare/Cade, Most people get far more out of it up to this point then they ever paid into it that’s why it’s a losing ******* shit show.

Like I’ve said all along socialism is a **** up because it depends on other peoples money, once that money runs out banana republic.

 

[PoliticalChic]

What kind of an idiot thinks he has a chance of winning by promising a 97.5% tax rate on billionaires?

Besides some crotchety old curmudgeon socialist, I mean.

Hmm, every time one of you Rumpsters throw out a number it grows and grows each time. The real number is 70% on anything earned in a fiscal year above X million dollars after adjustment. That is the figure that was suggested. Of course, you don't remember when the real figure was 90% for anything over $250,000 do you? It paid for frivolous things like Water Works (dams, city water works, canals, etc.), Interstates, Bridges, Put Men on the Moon, paid for at least 3 wars, and much much more. Today, we can't even afford to fix our bridges or replace the pipes that are eaten up with rust and lead. In order to get an Astronaut onto the Space Station we have to thumb a ride with the Russians. We can't afford to effectively help in major emergencies anymore.

Although this was done by the entertainment world, it hits the nail right on the head.



Can you imagine if any Politician were to say this today? As true as this is, just how long would they exist in the political world if they did. Yes, the Rich paid for most of the really great programs that was created with a little help from everyone else. America WAS the greatest Country in the world. We aren't anymore. We could be again but not by following the losers we see attempting to be leaders today. And this includes Rump.

Oh boy, you Libs are so incredibly dim witted. Screaming that the problem of wealth inequality can be fixed via a new tax schedule is completely inane. Furthermore, Our debt is not a product of waterworks, bridge construction, wars or space travel, or anything YOU mentioned. The debt is a product of the biggest group of spending that you never even mentioned- ENTITLEMENTS, welfare, Medicare, Medicaid, social security, food stamps, etc.

MOST of the kids parents on the school lunch assist program have jobs. MOST of the people using various welfare programs have jobs. MOST...... Almost ALL have jobs. The problem isn't with the welfare of the workers, it's the welfare of the employers. If the Employer can't afford to pay the worker enough so the worker can afford to live on maybe that business shouldn't be in business in the first place. So the Government subsidizes the Employer by giving the worker subsidized income. Meanwhile, the employer buys another home in Malibu, a new Yacht in Florida, a Chalet in Aspen, goes to a nice South Sea Vacation for the 4th time this year. When they raised the minimum wage here a few years ago, they interviewed a person that owned a chain of McDonalds who said it would make it hard to stay in business. He would have to cut costs in his business by laying off people and raising prices. He was at the Air Port headed for his 6th vacation to Hawaii with his Family for the year. Not once did he bring up about cutting back on his luxuries. What's funny now, McDonalds has become a higher than the minimum wage job today due to competition for workers.

You want to slow down on the Entitlements? End Corporate Welfare. But you don't want to talk about that part do you.

1. ‘Welfare’ as a wholly owned subsidiary of the government, and its main result is the incentivizing of a disrespect for oneself, and for the entity that provides the welfare. As more folks in a poor neighborhood languish with little or no work, entire local culture begins to change: daily work is no longer the expected social norm. Extended periods of hanging around the neighborhood, neither working nor going to school becoming more and more socially acceptable.
   1. Since productive activity not making any economic sense because of the work disincentives of the welfare plantation, other kinds of activities proliferate: drug and alcohol abuse, crime, recreational sex, illegitimacy, and family breakup are the new social norms, as does the culture of violence.
   2. "The lessons of history … show conclusively that continued dependence upon relief induces a spiritual and moral disintegration fundamentally destructive to the national fiber. To dole out relief in this way is to administer a narcotic, a subtle destroyer of the human spirit."
      These searing words about Depression-era welfare are from Franklin Roosevelt's 1935 State of the Union Address.
   3. On Dec. 7, 2012, liberal New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof offered an unexpected concession:
      “This is painful for a liberal to admit, but … America’s safety net can sometimes entangle people in a soul-crushing dependency. Our poverty programs do rescue many people, but other times they backfire.”

Welfare, as it is intended,
a. isn't working....nearly the same 'poverty rate' as prior to the War on Poverty
b. it destroys incentive and families
c. it keeps socialists and communists in office
d. it is unnecessary as there is no real poverty in America.
e. step one....get rid of minimum wage laws.


“Earned success is the secret to meaningful happiness. The government can improve your net worth with a check, but it cannot improve your self-worth.”
Jonah Goldberg

 

[jc456]

What kind of an idiot thinks he has a chance of winning by promising a 97.5% tax rate on billionaires?

Besides some crotchety old curmudgeon socialist, I mean.

Hmm, every time one of you Rumpsters throw out a number it grows and grows each time. The real number is 70% on anything earned in a fiscal year above X million dollars after adjustment. That is the figure that was suggested. Of course, you don't remember when the real figure was 90% for anything over $250,000 do you? It paid for frivolous things like Water Works (dams, city water works, canals, etc.), Interstates, Bridges, Put Men on the Moon, paid for at least 3 wars, and much much more. Today, we can't even afford to fix our bridges or replace the pipes that are eaten up with rust and lead. In order to get an Astronaut onto the Space Station we have to thumb a ride with the Russians. We can't afford to effectively help in major emergencies anymore.

Although this was done by the entertainment world, it hits the nail right on the head.



Can you imagine if any Politician were to say this today? As true as this is, just how long would they exist in the political world if they did. Yes, the Rich paid for most of the really great programs that was created with a little help from everyone else. America WAS the greatest Country in the world. We aren't anymore. We could be again but not by following the losers we see attempting to be leaders today. And this includes Rump.

Oh boy, you Libs are so incredibly dim witted. Screaming that the problem of wealth inequality can be fixed via a new tax schedule is completely inane. Furthermore, Our debt is not a product of waterworks, bridge construction, wars or space travel, or anything YOU mentioned. The debt is a product of the biggest group of spending that you never even mentioned- ENTITLEMENTS, welfare, Medicare, Medicaid, social security, food stamps, etc.

MOST of the kids parents on the school lunch assist program have jobs. MOST of the people using various welfare programs have jobs. MOST...... Almost ALL have jobs. The problem isn't with the welfare of the workers, it's the welfare of the employers. If the Employer can't afford to pay the worker enough so the worker can afford to live on maybe that business shouldn't be in business in the first place. So the Government subsidizes the Employer by giving the worker subsidized income. Meanwhile, the employer buys another home in Malibu, a new Yacht in Florida, a Chalet in Aspen, goes to a nice South Sea Vacation for the 4th time this year. When they raised the minimum wage here a few years ago, they interviewed a person that owned a chain of McDonalds who said it would make it hard to stay in business. He would have to cut costs in his business by laying off people and raising prices. He was at the Air Port headed for his 6th vacation to Hawaii with his Family for the year. Not once did he bring up about cutting back on his luxuries. What's funny now, McDonalds has become a higher than the minimum wage job today due to competition for workers.

You want to slow down on the Entitlements? End Corporate Welfare. But you don't want to talk about that part do you.

You made a bunch of assertions, you provided ZERO links to support any of them, and you are just plain stupid. Other than that, good post.

You must live in a cave and get spoon fed your information. 2 days ago, the school assistance lunch program was covered on a local news station. A few years ago, the McDonalds thing was covered on a local news report. Sorry, it wasn't covered on Foxnews, Hannity or Rush since it's completely contrary to their BS they spew. It's just local where you have to live somewhere to learn about it locally. That means it's probably pretty well true just about everywhere. If you require a link then you wouldn't believe a link if I gave you one since it would not be an approved Hannity/Rush link. Turn off the NPR, Turn off Foxnews, dump the Cable. There is a whole other world by watching and listening to local TV and Radio stations.

 

[Rustic]

What kind of an idiot thinks he has a chance of winning by promising a 97.5% tax rate on billionaires?

Besides some crotchety old curmudgeon socialist, I mean.

Hmm, every time one of you Rumpsters throw out a number it grows and grows each time. The real number is 70% on anything earned in a fiscal year above X million dollars after adjustment. That is the figure that was suggested. Of course, you don't remember when the real figure was 90% for anything over $250,000 do you? It paid for frivolous things like Water Works (dams, city water works, canals, etc.), Interstates, Bridges, Put Men on the Moon, paid for at least 3 wars, and much much more. Today, we can't even afford to fix our bridges or replace the pipes that are eaten up with rust and lead. In order to get an Astronaut onto the Space Station we have to thumb a ride with the Russians. We can't afford to effectively help in major emergencies anymore.

Although this was done by the entertainment world, it hits the nail right on the head.



Can you imagine if any Politician were to say this today? As true as this is, just how long would they exist in the political world if they did. Yes, the Rich paid for most of the really great programs that was created with a little help from everyone else. America WAS the greatest Country in the world. We aren't anymore. We could be again but not by following the losers we see attempting to be leaders today. And this includes Rump.

Lol
Why the **** would we want anything to do with top down taxation? Punishment for success… Go live in Europe you ******* old coot

 

[PoliticalChic]

Seems like there’s lots of resentment towards “billionaires” on the right these days, too.

Lol
And the funny thing is, generally people are at the station in life they deserve…

I have never been able to understand envy, It always had seems so silly to me. What does what someone else has have to do with me?

Worse yet, using the biggest monopoly ever to exist(the federal government) To redistribute? Now that’s a **** up even a child can see...

Envy.
It only works because the Democrats enforce and reward it.

Those of us who don't process the world via envy learned it from our family.
That's why the Left hates families....
Abolition [Aufhebung] of the family! Even the most radical flare up at this infamous proposal of the Communists. On what foundation is the present family, the bourgeois family, based? On capital, on private gain. In its completely developed form, this family exists only among the bourgeoisie." Marx and Engels, Communist Manifesto, ch 2...
Communist Manifesto (Chapter 2)



After losing power, Leon Trotsky would claim that the reason that communism had not been successful was that Stalin had not been ruthless enough in his efforts to eliminate the family. See Trotsky's The Revolution Betrayed, trans. Max Eastman, New York, 1965, pp. 145ff.
Read more: The Abolition of the Family

 

[jc456]

What PC has her head stuck three feet in the sand about is that the nativist right is spinning a narrative about liberal “billionaires” imposing their social values on the working class. They don’t just say “liberal,” they have to include “billionaires” because this language stirs resentment by classifying them as outsiders who are trying to destroy them, their lifestyles, their communities.

Whereas the left stirs class resentment to exploit economic issues, the right is using class resentment to exploit social issues.

see you have no idea, so it must be you with your head buried in that sand.

What the point is, if the left wish billionaires to give up their money, then be good leaders and give up all of their money. forfeit it over, step out and walk the walk. Seems fair to me.

 

[PoliticalChic]

What PC has her head stuck three feet in the sand about is that the nativist right is spinning a narrative about liberal “billionaires” imposing their social values on the working class. They don’t just say “liberal,” they have to include “billionaires” because this language stirs resentment by classifying them as outsiders who are trying to destroy them, their lifestyles, their communities.

Whereas the left stirs class resentment to exploit economic issues, the right is using class resentment to exploit social issues.

"...the nativist right ..."

"...liberal “billionaires”..."

I understand why you'd rather change the subject....you've taken quite a beating today.

 

[jc456]

Hmm, every time one of you Rumpsters throw out a number it grows and grows each time. The real number is 70% on anything earned in a fiscal year above X million dollars after adjustment. That is the figure that was suggested. Of course, you don't remember when the real figure was 90% for anything over $250,000 do you? It paid for frivolous things like Water Works (dams, city water works, canals, etc.), Interstates, Bridges, Put Men on the Moon, paid for at least 3 wars, and much much more. Today, we can't even afford to fix our bridges or replace the pipes that are eaten up with rust and lead. In order to get an Astronaut onto the Space Station we have to thumb a ride with the Russians. We can't afford to effectively help in major emergencies anymore.

Although this was done by the entertainment world, it hits the nail right on the head.



Can you imagine if any Politician were to say this today? As true as this is, just how long would they exist in the political world if they did. Yes, the Rich paid for most of the really great programs that was created with a little help from everyone else. America WAS the greatest Country in the world. We aren't anymore. We could be again but not by following the losers we see attempting to be leaders today. And this includes Rump.

Oh boy, you Libs are so incredibly dim witted. Screaming that the problem of wealth inequality can be fixed via a new tax schedule is completely inane. Furthermore, Our debt is not a product of waterworks, bridge construction, wars or space travel, or anything YOU mentioned. The debt is a product of the biggest group of spending that you never even mentioned- ENTITLEMENTS, welfare, Medicare, Medicaid, social security, food stamps, etc.

I'd like to see a comparison of the military budget VS welfare programs. We do spend an awful lot on the military.

Since you were to lazy to google it, I will provide it for you. We spend at least 3 times more on mandatory entitlements than we do on military. The military budget is part of the discretionary spending, and is about 15% of the total budget. Mandatory entitlement spending is Near 60% of the total spending, and it will continue to rise. Don’t let anyone tell you the military budget is the cause of the deficit.

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You can take out the 38% for SSI and Medicare. I paid for those for over 50 years and I still pay into it even after I receive the benefits. Those aren't "Benefits". That's my money. I paid for it. That's not the Governments money. It's not Tax Money. It's supposed to be like a trust fund. Now, redo your figures using real data instead of the baked figures.

True, We all have been paying into that shit our whole adult lives. And that’s the problem I’m 50 years old I’ll never see a penny from it I’m fine with that. But I would gladly quit paying into it right now and never see anything I’ve paid into it. **** your Social Security and Medicare/Cade, Most people get far more out of it up to this point then they ever paid into it that’s why it’s a losing ******* shit show.

Like I’ve said all along socialism is a **** up because it depends on other peoples money, once that money runs out banana republic.

the problem is this. I'm almost 64, anyone stops paying into the system who is younger than me ends any money I might receive. It's called a rock and a hard place. I paid into this shit hole for almost 45 years, and anyone that leaves, limits the payouts to all of us who invested. You think that money is actually there? I laugh at you all. I want what I put in plus built up interest. PERIOD. all these fks had to do back in the Roosevelt days was to start a fund for each and every person and hold the money in that account. Oh wait, wasn't that the actual plan? So how is it there isn't money in my account unless people are paying into it? hmmmmm

 

[Rustic]

What kind of an idiot thinks he has a chance of winning by promising a 97.5% tax rate on billionaires?

Besides some crotchety old curmudgeon socialist, I mean.

Hmm, every time one of you Rumpsters throw out a number it grows and grows each time. The real number is 70% on anything earned in a fiscal year above X million dollars after adjustment. That is the figure that was suggested. Of course, you don't remember when the real figure was 90% for anything over $250,000 do you? It paid for frivolous things like Water Works (dams, city water works, canals, etc.), Interstates, Bridges, Put Men on the Moon, paid for at least 3 wars, and much much more. Today, we can't even afford to fix our bridges or replace the pipes that are eaten up with rust and lead. In order to get an Astronaut onto the Space Station we have to thumb a ride with the Russians. We can't afford to effectively help in major emergencies anymore.

Although this was done by the entertainment world, it hits the nail right on the head.



Can you imagine if any Politician were to say this today? As true as this is, just how long would they exist in the political world if they did. Yes, the Rich paid for most of the really great programs that was created with a little help from everyone else. America WAS the greatest Country in the world. We aren't anymore. We could be again but not by following the losers we see attempting to be leaders today. And this includes Rump.

Another thief brought up to believe that stealing someone else's earnings is a reasonable way to run a nation.

How about gulags for the wealthy, you Bolshevik?

1. Who is to decide what is fair, and what is too much? Some religions suggest tithing, and government demands taxes.
   1. Joseph gathered very much grain: It seems it was customary for Pharaoh to take 10% of the grain in Egypt as a tax. Essentially, Joseph doubled the taxes over the next seven years (Genesis 41:34 mentions one-fifth, that is, 20%).
   2. That 20% figure appears again in the relationship of colonists to North America, and the English crown "....colonists were free to retain all the profits and fruits of their labor save for the crown's 20 percent share of any gold and silver discovered." "Freedom Just Around the Corner: A New American History: 1585-1828," by Walter A. McDougall, p.33

1. Yet our Liberal accepts doctrines, policies, programs, that make no sense, or are actually destructive, for the offer of acceptance of the herd…or the opposite, expulsion if one doesn’t support same.
   1. It is not that our Liberals do not care about rectitude, but he cannot afford to notice the insanity. The size and power of the group allows the individual to submerge his doubts…but at the cost of obedience and the surrender his individuality.

Funny you bring this up. It was the Conservatives that did the original tax we are talking about. And are you aware, the average top 1% tax rate during the highest period (1945 to 1960) averaged out to 42% as compared to today's 36%? During the golden years, that added tax only affected about 100,000 tax payers. MOST Citizens made less after adjustments than the 250,000 bucks therefore, they paid the lower tax rate. Just how many, today, would make more than say, 2 million after adjusted net income?

Yes, America is NOT the greatest country in the world. It sure as hell used to be. But due to people buying into your nonsense, it sure as hell isn't. But it could be if we learned from people one generation older than I am. Yes, in my lifetime, America WAS the Greatest Country in the World. It isn't anymore. And Rump isn't going to make it Great again. And neither are any of the Democratic Candidates either.

Lol
The downfall of this country came right after to world wars, Everyone wanted a white picket fence and safety… So in other words socialist entitlement programs/safety net. But they never figured out how to pay for the shit other than taking money from others unjustly. You ******* retard

 

[jc456]

What kind of an idiot thinks he has a chance of winning by promising a 97.5% tax rate on billionaires?

Besides some crotchety old curmudgeon socialist, I mean.

Hmm, every time one of you Rumpsters throw out a number it grows and grows each time. The real number is 70% on anything earned in a fiscal year above X million dollars after adjustment. That is the figure that was suggested. Of course, you don't remember when the real figure was 90% for anything over $250,000 do you? It paid for frivolous things like Water Works (dams, city water works, canals, etc.), Interstates, Bridges, Put Men on the Moon, paid for at least 3 wars, and much much more. Today, we can't even afford to fix our bridges or replace the pipes that are eaten up with rust and lead. In order to get an Astronaut onto the Space Station we have to thumb a ride with the Russians. We can't afford to effectively help in major emergencies anymore.

Although this was done by the entertainment world, it hits the nail right on the head.



Can you imagine if any Politician were to say this today? As true as this is, just how long would they exist in the political world if they did. Yes, the Rich paid for most of the really great programs that was created with a little help from everyone else. America WAS the greatest Country in the world. We aren't anymore. We could be again but not by following the losers we see attempting to be leaders today. And this includes Rump.

Another thief brought up to believe that stealing someone else's earnings is a reasonable way to run a nation.

How about gulags for the wealthy, you Bolshevik?

1. Who is to decide what is fair, and what is too much? Some religions suggest tithing, and government demands taxes.
   1. Joseph gathered very much grain: It seems it was customary for Pharaoh to take 10% of the grain in Egypt as a tax. Essentially, Joseph doubled the taxes over the next seven years (Genesis 41:34 mentions one-fifth, that is, 20%).
   2. That 20% figure appears again in the relationship of colonists to North America, and the English crown "....colonists were free to retain all the profits and fruits of their labor save for the crown's 20 percent share of any gold and silver discovered." "Freedom Just Around the Corner: A New American History: 1585-1828," by Walter A. McDougall, p.33

1. Yet our Liberal accepts doctrines, policies, programs, that make no sense, or are actually destructive, for the offer of acceptance of the herd…or the opposite, expulsion if one doesn’t support same.
   1. It is not that our Liberals do not care about rectitude, but he cannot afford to notice the insanity. The size and power of the group allows the individual to submerge his doubts…but at the cost of obedience and the surrender his individuality.

Funny you bring this up. It was the Conservatives that did the original tax we are talking about. And are you aware, the average top 1% tax rate during the highest period (1945 to 1960) averaged out to 42% as compared to today's 36%? During the golden years, that added tax only affected about 100,000 tax payers. MOST Citizens made less after adjustments than the 250,000 bucks therefore, they paid the lower tax rate. Just how many, today, would make more than say, 2 million after adjusted net income?

Yes, America is NOT the greatest country in the world. It sure as hell used to be. But due to people buying into your nonsense, it sure as hell isn't. But it could be if we learned from people one generation older than I am. Yes, in my lifetime, America WAS the Greatest Country in the World. It isn't anymore. And Rump isn't going to make it Great again. And neither are any of the Democratic Candidates either.

Lol
The downfall of this country came right after to world wars, Everyone wanted a white picket fence and safety… So in other words socialist entitlement programs/safety net. But they never figured out how to pay for the shit other than taking money from others unjustly. You ******* retard

because, there is no other way. Again, all the leaders need to do is give away all of their money. Fking Lead, show us by example the good it would do to do such a thing.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Yang and Gabbard seem like reasonable people. To some extent Klobuchar does too. The rest are loons.

 

[Rustic]

Oh boy, you Libs are so incredibly dim witted. Screaming that the problem of wealth inequality can be fixed via a new tax schedule is completely inane. Furthermore, Our debt is not a product of waterworks, bridge construction, wars or space travel, or anything YOU mentioned. The debt is a product of the biggest group of spending that you never even mentioned- ENTITLEMENTS, welfare, Medicare, Medicaid, social security, food stamps, etc.

I'd like to see a comparison of the military budget VS welfare programs. We do spend an awful lot on the military.

Since you were to lazy to google it, I will provide it for you. We spend at least 3 times more on mandatory entitlements than we do on military. The military budget is part of the discretionary spending, and is about 15% of the total budget. Mandatory entitlement spending is Near 60% of the total spending, and it will continue to rise. Don’t let anyone tell you the military budget is the cause of the deficit.

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You can take out the 38% for SSI and Medicare. I paid for those for over 50 years and I still pay into it even after I receive the benefits. Those aren't "Benefits". That's my money. I paid for it. That's not the Governments money. It's not Tax Money. It's supposed to be like a trust fund. Now, redo your figures using real data instead of the baked figures.

True, We all have been paying into that shit our whole adult lives. And that’s the problem I’m 50 years old I’ll never see a penny from it I’m fine with that. But I would gladly quit paying into it right now and never see anything I’ve paid into it. **** your Social Security and Medicare/Cade, Most people get far more out of it up to this point then they ever paid into it that’s why it’s a losing ******* shit show.

Like I’ve said all along socialism is a **** up because it depends on other peoples money, once that money runs out banana republic.

the problem is this. I'm almost 64, anyone stops paying into the system who is younger than me ends any money I might receive. It's called a rock and a hard place. I paid into this shit hole for almost 45 years, and anyone that leaves, limits the payouts to all of us who invested. You think that money is actually there? I laugh at you all. I want what I put in plus built up interest. PERIOD. all these fks had to do back in the Roosevelt days was to start a fund for each and every person and hold the money in that account. Oh wait, wasn't that the actual plan? So how is it there isn't money in my account unless people are paying into it? hmmmmm

You’re right, Social Security/Medicare/Medicaid are beyond a ******* joke. The amount of money people pay in as compared to people taking out is ridiculous. Like with all government programs they never think things through. And they expect other stuff to pay for their own **** ups. I have never claimed anything off of insurance in my life, because I don’t have insurance never have. Because the whole paying into a pool thing never made sense to me, Far too easy to be fraudulent…

 

[impuretrash]

Yang and Gabbard seem like reasonable people. To some extent Klobuchar does too. The rest are loons.

Too bad all of their reasonable ideas come loaded with a whole bunch of social justice baggage.

 

[jc456]

Yang and Gabbard seem like reasonable people. To some extent Klobuchar does too. The rest are loons.

Yeah, he wants to give every american $1,000 a month for life, yeah, reasonable.

 

[Rustic]

What kind of an idiot thinks he has a chance of winning by promising a 97.5% tax rate on billionaires?

Besides some crotchety old curmudgeon socialist, I mean.

Hmm, every time one of you Rumpsters throw out a number it grows and grows each time. The real number is 70% on anything earned in a fiscal year above X million dollars after adjustment. That is the figure that was suggested. Of course, you don't remember when the real figure was 90% for anything over $250,000 do you? It paid for frivolous things like Water Works (dams, city water works, canals, etc.), Interstates, Bridges, Put Men on the Moon, paid for at least 3 wars, and much much more. Today, we can't even afford to fix our bridges or replace the pipes that are eaten up with rust and lead. In order to get an Astronaut onto the Space Station we have to thumb a ride with the Russians. We can't afford to effectively help in major emergencies anymore.

Although this was done by the entertainment world, it hits the nail right on the head.



Can you imagine if any Politician were to say this today? As true as this is, just how long would they exist in the political world if they did. Yes, the Rich paid for most of the really great programs that was created with a little help from everyone else. America WAS the greatest Country in the world. We aren't anymore. We could be again but not by following the losers we see attempting to be leaders today. And this includes Rump.

Another thief brought up to believe that stealing someone else's earnings is a reasonable way to run a nation.

How about gulags for the wealthy, you Bolshevik?

1. Who is to decide what is fair, and what is too much? Some religions suggest tithing, and government demands taxes.
   1. Joseph gathered very much grain: It seems it was customary for Pharaoh to take 10% of the grain in Egypt as a tax. Essentially, Joseph doubled the taxes over the next seven years (Genesis 41:34 mentions one-fifth, that is, 20%).
   2. That 20% figure appears again in the relationship of colonists to North America, and the English crown "....colonists were free to retain all the profits and fruits of their labor save for the crown's 20 percent share of any gold and silver discovered." "Freedom Just Around the Corner: A New American History: 1585-1828," by Walter A. McDougall, p.33

1. Yet our Liberal accepts doctrines, policies, programs, that make no sense, or are actually destructive, for the offer of acceptance of the herd…or the opposite, expulsion if one doesn’t support same.
   1. It is not that our Liberals do not care about rectitude, but he cannot afford to notice the insanity. The size and power of the group allows the individual to submerge his doubts…but at the cost of obedience and the surrender his individuality.

Funny you bring this up. It was the Conservatives that did the original tax we are talking about. And are you aware, the average top 1% tax rate during the highest period (1945 to 1960) averaged out to 42% as compared to today's 36%? During the golden years, that added tax only affected about 100,000 tax payers. MOST Citizens made less after adjustments than the 250,000 bucks therefore, they paid the lower tax rate. Just how many, today, would make more than say, 2 million after adjusted net income?

Yes, America is NOT the greatest country in the world. It sure as hell used to be. But due to people buying into your nonsense, it sure as hell isn't. But it could be if we learned from people one generation older than I am. Yes, in my lifetime, America WAS the Greatest Country in the World. It isn't anymore. And Rump isn't going to make it Great again. And neither are any of the Democratic Candidates either.

Lol
A country is not worth a shit if it has to take from the successful, to be successful

 

[jc456]

I'd like to see a comparison of the military budget VS welfare programs. We do spend an awful lot on the military.

Since you were to lazy to google it, I will provide it for you. We spend at least 3 times more on mandatory entitlements than we do on military. The military budget is part of the discretionary spending, and is about 15% of the total budget. Mandatory entitlement spending is Near 60% of the total spending, and it will continue to rise. Don’t let anyone tell you the military budget is the cause of the deficit.

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You can take out the 38% for SSI and Medicare. I paid for those for over 50 years and I still pay into it even after I receive the benefits. Those aren't "Benefits". That's my money. I paid for it. That's not the Governments money. It's not Tax Money. It's supposed to be like a trust fund. Now, redo your figures using real data instead of the baked figures.

True, We all have been paying into that shit our whole adult lives. And that’s the problem I’m 50 years old I’ll never see a penny from it I’m fine with that. But I would gladly quit paying into it right now and never see anything I’ve paid into it. **** your Social Security and Medicare/Cade, Most people get far more out of it up to this point then they ever paid into it that’s why it’s a losing ******* shit show.

Like I’ve said all along socialism is a **** up because it depends on other peoples money, once that money runs out banana republic.

the problem is this. I'm almost 64, anyone stops paying into the system who is younger than me ends any money I might receive. It's called a rock and a hard place. I paid into this shit hole for almost 45 years, and anyone that leaves, limits the payouts to all of us who invested. You think that money is actually there? I laugh at you all. I want what I put in plus built up interest. PERIOD. all these fks had to do back in the Roosevelt days was to start a fund for each and every person and hold the money in that account. Oh wait, wasn't that the actual plan? So how is it there isn't money in my account unless people are paying into it? hmmmmm

You’re right, Social Security/Medicare/Medicaid are beyond a ******* joke. The amount of money people pay in as compared to people taking out is ridiculous. Like with all government programs they never think things through. And they expect other stuff to pay for their own **** ups. I have never claimed anything off of insurance in my life, because I don’t have insurance never have. Because the whole paying into a pool thing never made sense to me, Far too easy to be fraudulent…

I use what I get from work.