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Not at all. I'm simply reacting to the implied assertion of the two of you that the doctor making the statements is some sort of quack. You didn't genuinely engage the discussion until after your searches concluded that the good doctor is indeed very competent to discuss such things.You got two posters here giving counter arguments to your OP and you don’t seem willing to engage in the substance. Why’s that?
So anyone who asks about the lasting efficacy of vaccines is trying to push an "anti-vax narrative"? That's an unreasonable position.He is either ignoring the obvious to push an anti vax narrative...
I never implied that the doctor was a quack. In fact I said I agreed with the statement about efficacy rate and longevity.Not at all. I'm simply reacting to the implied assertion of the two of you that the doctor making the statements is some sort of quack. You didn't genuinely engage the discussion until after your searches concluded that the good doctor is indeed very competent to discuss such things.
I agree, that’s an unreasonable position, and not the position I was takingSo anyone who asks about the lasting efficacy of vaccines is trying to push an "anti-vax narrative"? That's an unreasonable position.
There may be some quality discussion on Covid to be had on this forum, if posters can leave their partisanship at the door.I agree, that’s an unreasonable position, and not the position I was taking
It’s a pretty simple question. Do you not know the answer?
if 100% of people are vaccinated then what percentage of Covid positive people would be vaccinated?
you can do this, simple logic, show us your brain is working, I believe in you!!
I agree… it also helps when people can answer question directly and not dodge like you’ve been doing with all the ones I’ve been asking youThere may be some quality discussion on Covid to be had on this forum, if posters can leave their partisanship at the door.
The problem is that the VE is deteriorating. The gov here knows this.
Can you answer my question? How do you people just completely ignore simple questions and then expect me to give a respectful response to you when you try and change the subject?!. Come on, grow up.
The problem is that the VE is deteriorating. The gov here knows this.
Y’all are trying to spin increasing numbers of breakthrough cases as some kind of failing vax narrative when in fact those numbers are rising because the number of vaxed people is rising. That makes those stats insignificant. What they should be looking at is efficacy rates, which is definitely worse with Delta. If you want to have an honest conversation then use honest data. The OP stats were misleading at best.Do you see how the vaccines are losing effectiveness over time? I agree that if 100% of people were vaccinated ALL of the cases would be in vaccinated people. This would be insignificant if the breakthrough cases were indeed exceedingly rare and if the cases in highly vaxxed nations were not exploding. But this is not the case, as you see. So maybe we can stop playing in hypotheticals and look at what is actually going on
Did you look at the numbers in that tweet? VE is improving in the sections highlighted. What’s with you people and not understanding basic statistics?!
Lol.Is Twitter really where you get your news?
I’m seeing a -17.1% go to -16% for the 60+ age range and an over all VE go from 1.3% to 14%. Now you tell me is that increasing or decreasing?.....please explain what you THINK you are seeing here
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How about you actually answer a question or address a point that ive made instead of completely ignoring my comments and posting random shit? You are setting a horrible example of how to have a straight forward discussionHey Slade3200
It sounds like the FDA is also pushing an "anti-vax narrative".
Perhaps you should check with your Party's masters before commenting further.
I’m seeing a -17.1% go to -16% for the 60+ age range and an over all VE go from 1.3% to 14%. Now you tell me is that increasing or decreasing?
I've provided data from an expert while you've pretended to be one.How about you actually answer a question or address a point that ive made instead of completely ignoring my comments and posting random shit? You are setting a horrible example of how to have a straight forward discussion
I’d actually question these numbers as they should be showing declining numbers as Delta spreads and it is known that it has a lower efficacy rate than the original strain… also as antibodies wear off for those who have been vaxedI’m seeing a -17.1% go to -16% for the 60+ age range and an over all VE go from 1.3% to 14%. Now you tell me is that increasing or decreasing?
