This just so sums up

[Dr Grump]

No, I don't. My primary concern with globalism is the negative effects of "Free Trade" on the Middle Class and Working Poor here in America.
That is why Trump's America First message was so appealing to me. And to my demographic.
The socialism and communism are also issues, don't misunderstand me.

But isn't that the greatness of capitalism? The cheapest labour gets to make the products so the owners get the most bang for their buck? You mean you only like capitalism when it's in your favour? Most working class people in the big manufacturing centres in the US of yore were Dem voters. You think they're the ones who sent the jobs overseas? You think they're the ones who embraced automation? Or was it the owners of those companies? The ones who want tax breaks, lower corporate taxes, and other benefits? And do you think the latter are Dem voters?

 

[OKTexas]

The fucking article is bullshit, my mother-in-law lived with my wife and I until she passed in our home. She was bed ridden for the last 3.5 years and we never once thought of putting her in a nursing home. Neither of my parents ever lived in a nursing home. So take your commie BS and shove it.

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Oh wow. We have one example. You think your experience is the norm?

It is in my family, none of my grandparents lived in nursing homes and I don't know anyone who did, I could go on, but you commies aren't worth the effort.

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[OKTexas]

You're a fucking irrelevant foreigner.
Leftists created the problems America is having right now there will never be any coming together or meeting in the middle to fix the problems because the left doesn't want them fixed if they did they would stop the childish shit.

Donald Trump and his Deplorable scum are what is causing the US to disintegrate. That, and your penchant for making individual rights the be-all and end-all of your existence. You right-wing neocon loons are some of the most selfish, egotistical, self-absorbed, narcissistic people on the planet.

Put down the crack pipe commie, you have no clue what you're talking about.

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[Dr Grump]

It is in my family, none of my grandparents lived in nursing homes and I don't know anyone who did, I could go on, but you commies aren't worth the effort.

Great. I think that it is fantastic. My grandfather died in a nursing home. Wasn't great.

 

[Dr Grump]

You're a fucking irrelevant foreigner.
Leftists created the problems America is having right now there will never be any coming together or meeting in the middle to fix the problems because the left doesn't want them fixed if they did they would stop the childish shit.

Donald Trump and his Deplorable scum are what is causing the US to disintegrate. That, and your penchant for making individual rights the be-all and end-all of your existence. You right-wing neocon loons are some of the most selfish, egotistical, self-absorbed, narcissistic people on the planet.

Put down the crack pipe commie, you have no clue what you're talking about.

Yeah I do. It's not rocket science.

 

[OKTexas]

It is in my family, none of my grandparents lived in nursing homes and I don't know anyone who did, I could go on, but you commies aren't worth the effort.

Great. I think that it is fantastic. My grandfather died in a nursing home. Wasn't great.

So you are saying YOU are part of the problem, LMAO.

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[bigrebnc1775]

You're a fucking irrelevant foreigner.
Leftists created the problems America is having right now there will never be any coming together or meeting in the middle to fix the problems because the left doesn't want them fixed if they did they would stop the childish shit.

Donald Trump and his Deplorable scum are what is causing the US to disintegrate. That, and your penchant for making individual rights the be-all and end-all of your existence. You right-wing neocon loons are some of the most selfish, egotistical, self-absorbed, narcissistic people on the planet.

What policy did anyone that was right wing or a trump supporter that created the police policies in those leftists run cities that are having all the riots?
Afterall those policies are the reason they are rioting.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

As with the Romans, Americans are no longer the Americans of yore. We have allowed to immigrate the refuse of third-world shitholes and they in turn have bred and join the native stock of snowflake to form a significant segment of entitled and shiftless parasites. One need look no further than the OP of this thread or the likes of Ilhan Omar.

Then again, maybe you're just lost in that whitebread world of yours where you pretend that you and your like were what made the world great, whereas in fact you are responsible for what makes the world a shithole for a whole string of people.

Ah, the white bread world. since you are in Europe and not of this particular world , it seems pertinent to ask what kind of third world hell hole were you living in before you decided to infest Europe?

You should return rather that continue to infest the sort of Western democracy you obviously hate.

 

[Dr Grump]

It is in my family, none of my grandparents lived in nursing homes and I don't know anyone who did, I could go on, but you commies aren't worth the effort.

Great. I think that it is fantastic. My grandfather died in a nursing home. Wasn't great.

So you are saying YOU are part of the problem, LMAO.

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Pretty hard for a 10 year old to decide where their grandfather goes...

 

[Dr Grump]

Ah, the white bread world. since you are in Europe and not of this particular world , it seems pertinent to ask what kind of third world hell hole were you living in before you decided to infest Europe?

You should return rather that continue to infest the sort of Western democracy you obviously hate.

1) I'm not in Europe
2) I have never lived in a third-world country
3) I love western democracy. Just not the US version of it. (wait for the BS cries of 'we're not a democracy we're a republic!!!)

 

[Dr Grump]

What policy did anyone that was right wing or a trump supporter that created the police policies in those leftists run cities that are having all the riots?
Afterall those policies are the reason they are rioting.

The only thing I need to know, would these riots be happening if Trump was not in charge. I think not. They are happening all over the US. You need to get out a bit more. Blaming them on an ideology is lame.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

What policy did anyone that was right wing or a trump supporter that created the police policies in those leftists run cities that are having all the riots?
Afterall those policies are the reason they are rioting.

The only thing I need to know, would these riots be happening if Trump was not in charge. I think not. They are happening all over the US. You need to get out a bit more. Blaming them on an ideology is lame.

the riots have been going on for over 3 months
So tell me again
What policy did anyone that was right wing or a trump supporter that created the police policies in those leftists run cities that are having all the riots?
Afterall those policies are the reason they are rioting.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Ah, the white bread world. since you are in Europe and not of this particular world , it seems pertinent to ask what kind of third world hell hole were you living in before you decided to infest Europe?

You should return rather that continue to infest the sort of Western democracy you obviously hate.

1) I'm not in Europe
2) I have never lived in a third-world country
3) I love western democracy. Just not the US version of it. (wait for the BS cries of 'we're not a democracy we're a republic!!!)

So you're lying you said you lived in Great Britain

 

[Dr Grump]

Ah, the white bread world. since you are in Europe and not of this particular world , it seems pertinent to ask what kind of third world hell hole were you living in before you decided to infest Europe?

You should return rather that continue to infest the sort of Western democracy you obviously hate.

1) I'm not in Europe
2) I have never lived in a third-world country
3) I love western democracy. Just not the US version of it. (wait for the BS cries of 'we're not a democracy we're a republic!!!)

So you're lying you said you lived in Great Britain

Find one post where I said I live in GB. I lived there for a few years but that was over 40 years ago when I was a lad. My mother is English, but not I....

 

[toobfreak]

Progressives spent years giving intel, money and support to China.

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When Senator Tim Kaine on Tuesday denied that there was any corruption at the Clinton Foundation, I couldn’t believe it. That was unquestionably one of the most dishonest things I ever seen in a presidential debate. Even Bill Clinton had...

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The troubling reason why Biden is so soft on China

Perhaps Biden’s insouciant attitude toward the Chinese government has to do with the fact that his family does not consider them competitors but business partners.

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6 facts about Hunter Biden’s business dealings in China

Peter Schweizer, best-selling author of “Secret Empires: How the American Political Class Hides Corruption and Enriches Family and Friends” and Jacob McLeod, a senior researcher with the Government…

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More conspiracy theory pap.

Of COURSE it is to you, Crump. Just that it has all been documented to the nines for up to a quarter of a century. Just long enough for you to forget it all, hope others forgot it all, then deny it as conspiracy crap. If Bill Clinton and Biden himself swore it to you, it would still be fake news, and yet you ASKED hoping I wouldn't produce it!

 

[odanny]

I read that story a few weeks back. Twice. It is excellent and spot on. I encourage everyone to read it.

 

[OKTexas]

It is in my family, none of my grandparents lived in nursing homes and I don't know anyone who did, I could go on, but you commies aren't worth the effort.

Great. I think that it is fantastic. My grandfather died in a nursing home. Wasn't great.

So you are saying YOU are part of the problem, LMAO.

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Pretty hard for a 10 year old to decide where their grandfather goes...

Oh ok, so you must hate your parents as much as you hate Americans, got it.

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[Dr Grump]

Oh ok, so you must hate your parents as much as you hate Americans, got it.

I don't hate Americans. I have an extreme dislike for a certain type of American...and Brit...and Australian....etc....
Don't ever mistake my dislike, disdain and disrespect for Trump as meaning the same for the US. Trump is not the US. Neither was Obama. Nor was Bush.....I could go on...

 

[Correll]

I skimmed it and addressed the point that leapt out at me the most.

If you think there is something new or especially deserving that I missed, make the point in your own words.

Until you give me reason to think there is something there, you should be grateful I skimmed it.

I really could not give a shit if you skimmed it or not. The OP wasn't aimed at people like you. It was ABOUT people like you - and not in a good way.

You are the one that brought it up. YOu don't care? Fine, Me neither. So, drop it, and don't bring it up again.

 

[Correll]

why the US is fucked. Been trying to articulate it for years but never been able to do so properly. And no, this is not anti-American. Like most people in the world, a strong US (as it used to be) is much better than a strong China. So here's the article and some of its highlights.

The Unraveling of America

Anthropologist Wade Davis writes about Covid-19 and its devastating impact on the international standing of the United States.

www.rollingstone.com

Some highlights:

1. But what surely does is the absolutely devastating impact that the pandemic has had on the reputation and international standing of the United States of America.
2. COVID has reduced to tatters the illusion of American exceptionalism.
3. For more than two centuries, reported the Irish Times, “the United States has stirred a very wide range of feelings in the rest of the world: love and hatred, fear and hope, envy and contempt, awe and anger. But there is one emotion that has never been directed towards the U.S. until now: pity.”
4. At its peak, Henry Ford’s Willow Run Plant produced a B-24 Liberator every two hours, around the clock. Shipyards in Long Beach and Sausalito spat out Liberty ships at a rate of two a day for four years
5. But freedom and affluence came with a price. The United States, virtually a demilitarized nation on the eve of the Second World War, never stood down in the wake of victory. To this day, American troops are deployed in 150 countries. Since the 1970s, China has not once gone to war; the U.S. has not spent a day at peace. President Jimmy Carter recently noted that in its 242-year history, America has enjoyed only 16 years of peace.
6. More than any other country, the United States in the post-war era lionized the individual at the expense of community and family. It was the sociological equivalent of splitting the atom. What was gained in terms of mobility and personal freedom came at the expense of common purpose. In wide swaths of America, the family as an institution lost its grounding. By the 1960s, 40 percent of marriages were ending in divorce. Only six percent of American homes had grandparents living beneath the same roof as grandchildren; elders were abandoned to retirement homes
7. The country of the 1950s resembled Denmark as much as the America of today. Marginal tax rates for the wealthy were 90 percent. The salaries of CEOs were, on average, just 20 times that of their mid-management employees. Today, the base pay of those at the top is commonly 400 times that of their salaried staff, with many earning orders of magnitude more in stock options and perks. The elite one percent of Americans control $30 trillion of assets, while the bottom half have more debt than assets.
8. Trump’s performance and America’s crisis deflected attention from China’s own mishandling of the initial outbreak in Wuhan, not to mention its move to crush democracy in Hong Kong.
9. The American president lives to cultivate resentments, demonize his opponents, validate hatred. His main tool of governance is the lie; as of July 9th, 2020, the documented tally of his distortions and false statements numbered 20,055.

These last three are my favourite and sum up every neocon loser on this board. Every..single..one...of...you.

As they stare into the mirror and perceive only the myth of their exceptionalism, Americans remain almost bizarrely incapable of seeing what has actually become of their country. The republic that defined the free flow of information as the life blood of democracy, today ranks 45th among nations when it comes to press freedom.

The American cult of the individual denies not just community but the very idea of society. No one owes anything to anyone. All must be prepared to fight for everything: education, shelter, food, medical care. What every prosperous and successful democracy deems to be fundamental rights — universal health care, equal access to quality public education, a social safety net for the weak, elderly, and infirmed — America dismisses as socialist indulgences, as if so many signs of weakness.


American politicians dismiss the Scandinavian model as creeping socialism, communism lite, something that would never work in the United States. In truth, social democracies are successful precisely because they foment dynamic capitalist economies that just happen to benefit every tier of society.

The image of America abroad is not important. The rest of the world, if they think so poorly of US, are welcome to end their various alliances with us and tell us to get the fuck out.

They won't, because they know we are a great ally to have.

So, all of that is just the whining of ungrateful children.


The US's problem is a failure of confidence caused by the left.

That’s hilarious and completely delusional, but I’m sure you believe it. It might have been true decades ago, but not now.

Our government has gone rogue and is completely controlled by transnational capitalists. It’s all about protecting the dollars dominance as the world’s reserve currency.

You clearly aren’t aware that any nation that refuses to go along with our corrupt government is attacked ruthlessly. See Russia, China, Iran, and Venezuela. The rest of the world hates our government, but fears us. It will all come crashing down eventually and you will be totally taken by surprise. LOL.

THe polices of globalism, are an issue. One that we cannot address honestly because of the failure of our political class and the vile media.


This is part of the problem.

My point that the complaints of the op being bullshit, though, ,stands. And the opinion of the rest of the world is utterly irrelevant.

Okay I’m fine with that, but your response doesn’t support your prior post or address my response to that post.

The world fears our government because they know it’s a warmongering tyranny. Our government is not a great ally of any nation, other than maybe Israel. Thinking we are a great ally is silly and uninformed.

Really? The Europeans have been disgusted with us since Reagan, and more so with Bush, and even more now with Trump.


Why is NATO still a thing if not because America is a great ally?

Because everyone wants to be on a team with that powerhouse that is Estonia? LOL!!

If your claim was right, the Europeans would have requested we pull our troops shortly after the SU broke up.

Instead they massively expanded NATO.

It’s as simple as no one wants to antagonize the crazed bully.
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Except they have no problem aggressively pursuing their interests in trade or diplomacy, with little concern for us, and are happy to be very undiplomatic in the treatment of our Presidents, especially most recently with Trump.

They behavior is not the behavior of a reasonable man dealing with a "crazed bully", but more in keeping with my view, ie a bunch of ungrateful children, resentful at the person that they are dependent on.