This just so sums up

[MadChemist]

why the US is fucked. Been trying to articulate it for years but never been able to do so properly. And no, this is not anti-American. Like most people in the world, a strong US (as it used to be) is much better than a strong China. So here's the article and some of its highlights.

The Unraveling of America

Anthropologist Wade Davis writes about Covid-19 and its devastating impact on the international standing of the United States.

www.rollingstone.com

Some highlights:

1. But what surely does is the absolutely devastating impact that the pandemic has had on the reputation and international standing of the United States of America.
2. COVID has reduced to tatters the illusion of American exceptionalism.
3. For more than two centuries, reported the Irish Times, “the United States has stirred a very wide range of feelings in the rest of the world: love and hatred, fear and hope, envy and contempt, awe and anger. But there is one emotion that has never been directed towards the U.S. until now: pity.”
4. At its peak, Henry Ford’s Willow Run Plant produced a B-24 Liberator every two hours, around the clock. Shipyards in Long Beach and Sausalito spat out Liberty ships at a rate of two a day for four years
5. But freedom and affluence came with a price. The United States, virtually a demilitarized nation on the eve of the Second World War, never stood down in the wake of victory. To this day, American troops are deployed in 150 countries. Since the 1970s, China has not once gone to war; the U.S. has not spent a day at peace. President Jimmy Carter recently noted that in its 242-year history, America has enjoyed only 16 years of peace.
6. More than any other country, the United States in the post-war era lionized the individual at the expense of community and family. It was the sociological equivalent of splitting the atom. What was gained in terms of mobility and personal freedom came at the expense of common purpose. In wide swaths of America, the family as an institution lost its grounding. By the 1960s, 40 percent of marriages were ending in divorce. Only six percent of American homes had grandparents living beneath the same roof as grandchildren; elders were abandoned to retirement homes
7. The country of the 1950s resembled Denmark as much as the America of today. Marginal tax rates for the wealthy were 90 percent. The salaries of CEOs were, on average, just 20 times that of their mid-management employees. Today, the base pay of those at the top is commonly 400 times that of their salaried staff, with many earning orders of magnitude more in stock options and perks. The elite one percent of Americans control $30 trillion of assets, while the bottom half have more debt than assets.
8. Trump’s performance and America’s crisis deflected attention from China’s own mishandling of the initial outbreak in Wuhan, not to mention its move to crush democracy in Hong Kong.
9. The American president lives to cultivate resentments, demonize his opponents, validate hatred. His main tool of governance is the lie; as of July 9th, 2020, the documented tally of his distortions and false statements numbered 20,055.

These last three are my favourite and sum up every neocon loser on this board. Every..single..one...of...you.

As they stare into the mirror and perceive only the myth of their exceptionalism, Americans remain almost bizarrely incapable of seeing what has actually become of their country. The republic that defined the free flow of information as the life blood of democracy, today ranks 45th among nations when it comes to press freedom.

The American cult of the individual denies not just community but the very idea of society. No one owes anything to anyone. All must be prepared to fight for everything: education, shelter, food, medical care. What every prosperous and successful democracy deems to be fundamental rights — universal health care, equal access to quality public education, a social safety net for the weak, elderly, and infirmed — America dismisses as socialist indulgences, as if so many signs of weakness.


American politicians dismiss the Scandinavian model as creeping socialism, communism lite, something that would never work in the United States. In truth, social democracies are successful precisely because they foment dynamic capitalist economies that just happen to benefit every tier of society.

Very interesting article.

Thank you for sharing.

I am afraid that as I read the follow up posts, it will be lost in the cross accusations that this board normally experiences.

Again...thanks.

 

[Dr Grump]

why the US is fucked. Been trying to articulate it for years but never been able to do so properly. And no, this is not anti-American. Like most people in the world, a strong US (as it used to be) is much better than a strong China. So here's the article and some of its highlights.

The Unraveling of America

Anthropologist Wade Davis writes about Covid-19 and its devastating impact on the international standing of the United States.

www.rollingstone.com

Some highlights:

1. But what surely does is the absolutely devastating impact that the pandemic has had on the reputation and international standing of the United States of America.
2. COVID has reduced to tatters the illusion of American exceptionalism.
3. For more than two centuries, reported the Irish Times, “the United States has stirred a very wide range of feelings in the rest of the world: love and hatred, fear and hope, envy and contempt, awe and anger. But there is one emotion that has never been directed towards the U.S. until now: pity.”
4. At its peak, Henry Ford’s Willow Run Plant produced a B-24 Liberator every two hours, around the clock. Shipyards in Long Beach and Sausalito spat out Liberty ships at a rate of two a day for four years
5. But freedom and affluence came with a price. The United States, virtually a demilitarized nation on the eve of the Second World War, never stood down in the wake of victory. To this day, American troops are deployed in 150 countries. Since the 1970s, China has not once gone to war; the U.S. has not spent a day at peace. President Jimmy Carter recently noted that in its 242-year history, America has enjoyed only 16 years of peace.
6. More than any other country, the United States in the post-war era lionized the individual at the expense of community and family. It was the sociological equivalent of splitting the atom. What was gained in terms of mobility and personal freedom came at the expense of common purpose. In wide swaths of America, the family as an institution lost its grounding. By the 1960s, 40 percent of marriages were ending in divorce. Only six percent of American homes had grandparents living beneath the same roof as grandchildren; elders were abandoned to retirement homes
7. The country of the 1950s resembled Denmark as much as the America of today. Marginal tax rates for the wealthy were 90 percent. The salaries of CEOs were, on average, just 20 times that of their mid-management employees. Today, the base pay of those at the top is commonly 400 times that of their salaried staff, with many earning orders of magnitude more in stock options and perks. The elite one percent of Americans control $30 trillion of assets, while the bottom half have more debt than assets.
8. Trump’s performance and America’s crisis deflected attention from China’s own mishandling of the initial outbreak in Wuhan, not to mention its move to crush democracy in Hong Kong.
9. The American president lives to cultivate resentments, demonize his opponents, validate hatred. His main tool of governance is the lie; as of July 9th, 2020, the documented tally of his distortions and false statements numbered 20,055.

These last three are my favourite and sum up every neocon loser on this board. Every..single..one...of...you.

As they stare into the mirror and perceive only the myth of their exceptionalism, Americans remain almost bizarrely incapable of seeing what has actually become of their country. The republic that defined the free flow of information as the life blood of democracy, today ranks 45th among nations when it comes to press freedom.

The American cult of the individual denies not just community but the very idea of society. No one owes anything to anyone. All must be prepared to fight for everything: education, shelter, food, medical care. What every prosperous and successful democracy deems to be fundamental rights — universal health care, equal access to quality public education, a social safety net for the weak, elderly, and infirmed — America dismisses as socialist indulgences, as if so many signs of weakness.


American politicians dismiss the Scandinavian model as creeping socialism, communism lite, something that would never work in the United States. In truth, social democracies are successful precisely because they foment dynamic capitalist economies that just happen to benefit every tier of society.

Very interesting article.

Thank you for sharing.

I am afraid that as I read the follow up posts, it will be lost in the cross accusations that this board normally experiences.

Again...thanks.

You guessed it.
The deliverer is the important thing, not the message apparently.

 

[Dr Grump]

fucking irrelevant foreigner America kicked you ass to get this freedom we have so fuck off

Your avatar says you're a sheepdog. You need to lose the last three letters to describe what you truly are....

 

[Rye Catcher]

why the US is fucked. Been trying to articulate it for years but never been able to do so properly. And no, this is not anti-American. Like most people in the world, a strong US (as it used to be) is much better than a strong China. So here's the article and some of its highlights.

The Unraveling of America

Anthropologist Wade Davis writes about Covid-19 and its devastating impact on the international standing of the United States.

www.rollingstone.com

Some highlights:

1. But what surely does is the absolutely devastating impact that the pandemic has had on the reputation and international standing of the United States of America.
2. COVID has reduced to tatters the illusion of American exceptionalism.
3. For more than two centuries, reported the Irish Times, “the United States has stirred a very wide range of feelings in the rest of the world: love and hatred, fear and hope, envy and contempt, awe and anger. But there is one emotion that has never been directed towards the U.S. until now: pity.”
4. At its peak, Henry Ford’s Willow Run Plant produced a B-24 Liberator every two hours, around the clock. Shipyards in Long Beach and Sausalito spat out Liberty ships at a rate of two a day for four years
5. But freedom and affluence came with a price. The United States, virtually a demilitarized nation on the eve of the Second World War, never stood down in the wake of victory. To this day, American troops are deployed in 150 countries. Since the 1970s, China has not once gone to war; the U.S. has not spent a day at peace. President Jimmy Carter recently noted that in its 242-year history, America has enjoyed only 16 years of peace.
6. More than any other country, the United States in the post-war era lionized the individual at the expense of community and family. It was the sociological equivalent of splitting the atom. What was gained in terms of mobility and personal freedom came at the expense of common purpose. In wide swaths of America, the family as an institution lost its grounding. By the 1960s, 40 percent of marriages were ending in divorce. Only six percent of American homes had grandparents living beneath the same roof as grandchildren; elders were abandoned to retirement homes
7. The country of the 1950s resembled Denmark as much as the America of today. Marginal tax rates for the wealthy were 90 percent. The salaries of CEOs were, on average, just 20 times that of their mid-management employees. Today, the base pay of those at the top is commonly 400 times that of their salaried staff, with many earning orders of magnitude more in stock options and perks. The elite one percent of Americans control $30 trillion of assets, while the bottom half have more debt than assets.
8. Trump’s performance and America’s crisis deflected attention from China’s own mishandling of the initial outbreak in Wuhan, not to mention its move to crush democracy in Hong Kong.
9. The American president lives to cultivate resentments, demonize his opponents, validate hatred. His main tool of governance is the lie; as of July 9th, 2020, the documented tally of his distortions and false statements numbered 20,055.

These last three are my favourite and sum up every neocon loser on this board. Every..single..one...of...you.

As they stare into the mirror and perceive only the myth of their exceptionalism, Americans remain almost bizarrely incapable of seeing what has actually become of their country. The republic that defined the free flow of information as the life blood of democracy, today ranks 45th among nations when it comes to press freedom.

The American cult of the individual denies not just community but the very idea of society. No one owes anything to anyone. All must be prepared to fight for everything: education, shelter, food, medical care. What every prosperous and successful democracy deems to be fundamental rights — universal health care, equal access to quality public education, a social safety net for the weak, elderly, and infirmed — America dismisses as socialist indulgences, as if so many signs of weakness.


American politicians dismiss the Scandinavian model as creeping socialism, communism lite, something that would never work in the United States. In truth, social democracies are successful precisely because they foment dynamic capitalist economies that just happen to benefit every tier of society.

Well written and food for thought; of course those Trump Supporters who are on a special diet, no facts are to be ingested; they will not read or consider this post. Thank you.

 

[gipper]

When the community is in a sinking lifeboat I'll swim
Fuck the American left time to thin the heard you fucking irrelevant foreigner. they created the mess they are the disease

Are you drunk? This above makes absolutely no sense on any level - especially grammatically.

He, she, it does this a lot.

 

[jasonnfree]

Lot of truth to what o.p. said. We're no longer an advanced country except in weapons of war. In the '60's and '70's a guy could go to school full time on the g.i. bill while even having a car and apartment. My brother in law went to UCLA full time on about 2k a year. A married couple could finance a house and the wife didn't have to work.... on and on. Guess we lost our way. Billions for military hardware for never ending wars. Big tax breaks for the already fabulously wealthy so no money for infrastructure repair, less and less pay raises for the working class, on and on.

 

[Coyote]

why the US is fucked. Been trying to articulate it for years but never been able to do so properly. And no, this is not anti-American. Like most people in the world, a strong US (as it used to be) is much better than a strong China. So here's the article and some of its highlights.

The Unraveling of America

Anthropologist Wade Davis writes about Covid-19 and its devastating impact on the international standing of the United States.

www.rollingstone.com

Some highlights:

1. But what surely does is the absolutely devastating impact that the pandemic has had on the reputation and international standing of the United States of America.
2. COVID has reduced to tatters the illusion of American exceptionalism.
3. For more than two centuries, reported the Irish Times, “the United States has stirred a very wide range of feelings in the rest of the world: love and hatred, fear and hope, envy and contempt, awe and anger. But there is one emotion that has never been directed towards the U.S. until now: pity.”
4. At its peak, Henry Ford’s Willow Run Plant produced a B-24 Liberator every two hours, around the clock. Shipyards in Long Beach and Sausalito spat out Liberty ships at a rate of two a day for four years
5. But freedom and affluence came with a price. The United States, virtually a demilitarized nation on the eve of the Second World War, never stood down in the wake of victory. To this day, American troops are deployed in 150 countries. Since the 1970s, China has not once gone to war; the U.S. has not spent a day at peace. President Jimmy Carter recently noted that in its 242-year history, America has enjoyed only 16 years of peace.
6. More than any other country, the United States in the post-war era lionized the individual at the expense of community and family. It was the sociological equivalent of splitting the atom. What was gained in terms of mobility and personal freedom came at the expense of common purpose. In wide swaths of America, the family as an institution lost its grounding. By the 1960s, 40 percent of marriages were ending in divorce. Only six percent of American homes had grandparents living beneath the same roof as grandchildren; elders were abandoned to retirement homes
7. The country of the 1950s resembled Denmark as much as the America of today. Marginal tax rates for the wealthy were 90 percent. The salaries of CEOs were, on average, just 20 times that of their mid-management employees. Today, the base pay of those at the top is commonly 400 times that of their salaried staff, with many earning orders of magnitude more in stock options and perks. The elite one percent of Americans control $30 trillion of assets, while the bottom half have more debt than assets.
8. Trump’s performance and America’s crisis deflected attention from China’s own mishandling of the initial outbreak in Wuhan, not to mention its move to crush democracy in Hong Kong.
9. The American president lives to cultivate resentments, demonize his opponents, validate hatred. His main tool of governance is the lie; as of July 9th, 2020, the documented tally of his distortions and false statements numbered 20,055.

These last three are my favourite and sum up every neocon loser on this board. Every..single..one...of...you.

As they stare into the mirror and perceive only the myth of their exceptionalism, Americans remain almost bizarrely incapable of seeing what has actually become of their country. The republic that defined the free flow of information as the life blood of democracy, today ranks 45th among nations when it comes to press freedom.

The American cult of the individual denies not just community but the very idea of society. No one owes anything to anyone. All must be prepared to fight for everything: education, shelter, food, medical care. What every prosperous and successful democracy deems to be fundamental rights — universal health care, equal access to quality public education, a social safety net for the weak, elderly, and infirmed — America dismisses as socialist indulgences, as if so many signs of weakness.


American politicians dismiss the Scandinavian model as creeping socialism, communism lite, something that would never work in the United States. In truth, social democracies are successful precisely because they foment dynamic capitalist economies that just happen to benefit every tier of society.

At this moment we're essentially a caricature of ourselves. The Ugly Americans.

And those who support this remain absolutely ignorant about how they're handing the keys to the very people they loathe.

There is sadly some truth in that article

 

[healthmyths]

why the US is fucked. Been trying to articulate it for years but never been able to do so properly. And no, this is not anti-American. Like most people in the world, a strong US (as it used to be) is much better than a strong China. So here's the article and some of its highlights.

The Unraveling of America

Anthropologist Wade Davis writes about Covid-19 and its devastating impact on the international standing of the United States.

www.rollingstone.com

Some highlights:

1. But what surely does is the absolutely devastating impact that the pandemic has had on the reputation and international standing of the United States of America.
2. COVID has reduced to tatters the illusion of American exceptionalism.
3. For more than two centuries, reported the Irish Times, “the United States has stirred a very wide range of feelings in the rest of the world: love and hatred, fear and hope, envy and contempt, awe and anger. But there is one emotion that has never been directed towards the U.S. until now: pity.”
4. At its peak, Henry Ford’s Willow Run Plant produced a B-24 Liberator every two hours, around the clock. Shipyards in Long Beach and Sausalito spat out Liberty ships at a rate of two a day for four years
5. But freedom and affluence came with a price. The United States, virtually a demilitarized nation on the eve of the Second World War, never stood down in the wake of victory. To this day, American troops are deployed in 150 countries. Since the 1970s, China has not once gone to war; the U.S. has not spent a day at peace. President Jimmy Carter recently noted that in its 242-year history, America has enjoyed only 16 years of peace.
6. More than any other country, the United States in the post-war era lionized the individual at the expense of community and family. It was the sociological equivalent of splitting the atom. What was gained in terms of mobility and personal freedom came at the expense of common purpose. In wide swaths of America, the family as an institution lost its grounding. By the 1960s, 40 percent of marriages were ending in divorce. Only six percent of American homes had grandparents living beneath the same roof as grandchildren; elders were abandoned to retirement homes
7. The country of the 1950s resembled Denmark as much as the America of today. Marginal tax rates for the wealthy were 90 percent. The salaries of CEOs were, on average, just 20 times that of their mid-management employees. Today, the base pay of those at the top is commonly 400 times that of their salaried staff, with many earning orders of magnitude more in stock options and perks. The elite one percent of Americans control $30 trillion of assets, while the bottom half have more debt than assets.
8. Trump’s performance and America’s crisis deflected attention from China’s own mishandling of the initial outbreak in Wuhan, not to mention its move to crush democracy in Hong Kong.
9. The American president lives to cultivate resentments, demonize his opponents, validate hatred. His main tool of governance is the lie; as of July 9th, 2020, the documented tally of his distortions and false statements numbered 20,055.

These last three are my favourite and sum up every neocon loser on this board. Every..single..one...of...you.

As they stare into the mirror and perceive only the myth of their exceptionalism, Americans remain almost bizarrely incapable of seeing what has actually become of their country. The republic that defined the free flow of information as the life blood of democracy, today ranks 45th among nations when it comes to press freedom.

The American cult of the individual denies not just community but the very idea of society. No one owes anything to anyone. All must be prepared to fight for everything: education, shelter, food, medical care. What every prosperous and successful democracy deems to be fundamental rights — universal health care, equal access to quality public education, a social safety net for the weak, elderly, and infirmed — America dismisses as socialist indulgences, as if so many signs of weakness.


American politicians dismiss the Scandinavian model as creeping socialism, communism lite, something that would never work in the United States. In truth, social democracies are successful precisely because they foment dynamic capitalist economies that just happen to benefit every tier of society.

The image of America abroad is not important. The rest of the world, if they think so poorly of US, are welcome to end their various alliances with us and tell us to get the fuck out.

They won't, because they know we are a great ally to have.

So, all of that is just the whining of ungrateful children.


The US's problem is a failure of confidence caused by the left.

That’s hilarious and completely delusional, but I’m sure you believe it. It might have been true decades ago, but not now.

Our government has gone rogue and is completely controlled by transnational capitalists. It’s all about protecting the dollars dominance as the world’s reserve currency.

You clearly aren’t aware that any nation that refuses to go along with our corrupt government is attacked ruthlessly. See Russia, China, Iran, and Venezuela. The rest of the world hates our government, but fears us. It will all come crashing down eventually and you will be totally taken by surprise. LOL.

THe polices of globalism, are an issue. One that we cannot address honestly because of the failure of our political class and the vile media.


This is part of the problem.

My point that the complaints of the op being bullshit, though, ,stands. And the opinion of the rest of the world is utterly irrelevant.

Okay I’m fine with that, but your response doesn’t support your prior post or address my response to that post.

The world fears our government because they know it’s a warmongering tyranny. Our government is not a great ally of any nation, other than maybe Israel. Thinking we are a great ally is silly and uninformed.

FACTS...you present none. Just your own ignorant opinion.

 

[task0778]

why the US is fucked. Been trying to articulate it for years but never been able to do so properly. And no, this is not anti-American. Like most people in the world, a strong US (as it used to be) is much better than a strong China. So here's the article and some of its highlights.

The Unraveling of America

Anthropologist Wade Davis writes about Covid-19 and its devastating impact on the international standing of the United States.

www.rollingstone.com

Some highlights:

1. But what surely does is the absolutely devastating impact that the pandemic has had on the reputation and international standing of the United States of America.
2. COVID has reduced to tatters the illusion of American exceptionalism.
3. For more than two centuries, reported the Irish Times, “the United States has stirred a very wide range of feelings in the rest of the world: love and hatred, fear and hope, envy and contempt, awe and anger. But there is one emotion that has never been directed towards the U.S. until now: pity.”
4. At its peak, Henry Ford’s Willow Run Plant produced a B-24 Liberator every two hours, around the clock. Shipyards in Long Beach and Sausalito spat out Liberty ships at a rate of two a day for four years
5. But freedom and affluence came with a price. The United States, virtually a demilitarized nation on the eve of the Second World War, never stood down in the wake of victory. To this day, American troops are deployed in 150 countries. Since the 1970s, China has not once gone to war; the U.S. has not spent a day at peace. President Jimmy Carter recently noted that in its 242-year history, America has enjoyed only 16 years of peace.
6. More than any other country, the United States in the post-war era lionized the individual at the expense of community and family. It was the sociological equivalent of splitting the atom. What was gained in terms of mobility and personal freedom came at the expense of common purpose. In wide swaths of America, the family as an institution lost its grounding. By the 1960s, 40 percent of marriages were ending in divorce. Only six percent of American homes had grandparents living beneath the same roof as grandchildren; elders were abandoned to retirement homes
7. The country of the 1950s resembled Denmark as much as the America of today. Marginal tax rates for the wealthy were 90 percent. The salaries of CEOs were, on average, just 20 times that of their mid-management employees. Today, the base pay of those at the top is commonly 400 times that of their salaried staff, with many earning orders of magnitude more in stock options and perks. The elite one percent of Americans control $30 trillion of assets, while the bottom half have more debt than assets.
8. Trump’s performance and America’s crisis deflected attention from China’s own mishandling of the initial outbreak in Wuhan, not to mention its move to crush democracy in Hong Kong.
9. The American president lives to cultivate resentments, demonize his opponents, validate hatred. His main tool of governance is the lie; as of July 9th, 2020, the documented tally of his distortions and false statements numbered 20,055.

These last three are my favourite and sum up every neocon loser on this board. Every..single..one...of...you.

As they stare into the mirror and perceive only the myth of their exceptionalism, Americans remain almost bizarrely incapable of seeing what has actually become of their country. The republic that defined the free flow of information as the life blood of democracy, today ranks 45th among nations when it comes to press freedom.

The American cult of the individual denies not just community but the very idea of society. No one owes anything to anyone. All must be prepared to fight for everything: education, shelter, food, medical care. What every prosperous and successful democracy deems to be fundamental rights — universal health care, equal access to quality public education, a social safety net for the weak, elderly, and infirmed — America dismisses as socialist indulgences, as if so many signs of weakness.


American politicians dismiss the Scandinavian model as creeping socialism, communism lite, something that would never work in the United States. In truth, social democracies are successful precisely because they foment dynamic capitalist economies that just happen to benefit every tier of society.

At this moment we're essentially a caricature of ourselves. The Ugly Americans.

And those who support this remain absolutely ignorant about how they're handing the keys to the very people they loathe.

There is sadly some truth in that article

Very little truth IMHO. What we have here is mostly the opinions of an Anti-Trumper who would have in very nicely in the DNC convention a while back. "The American president lives to cultivate resentments, demonize his opponents, validate hatred." As if the democrats aren't doing the exact same thing. It's all right though, we're all entitled to our opinions. It is sad though, that we are so divided. It appears that we're going to need one heckuva paradigm shift before we begin to unite again. On all sides.

 

[toobfreak]

why the US is fucked. Been trying to articulate it for years but never been able to do so properly.

TRANSLATION:

1. Progressives spent years giving intel, money and support to China to "level out the playing field."
2. China modernizes, becomes superpower, develops killer virus for which we have no defense.
3. Now Progressives say: "See! I told you America was unraveling!"

oh, lookie, more conspiracy theory pap...

Do feel free to tell us which parts are only a "theory" so I can blow that out of the water too.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I stopped reading after the first paragraph where the idiot called covid an existential threat. Here, we have a virus that kills only a tiny percentage of those it infects, nearly all have serious pre-existing conditions and are mostly over 65. The majority of infected don't know they even have it.

If there is any "unravelling of America" it is quite obviously an intentional act committed by those such as he who are using covid as an excuse for engineering the social upheaval they seek.

"existential threat", my ass. What kind of idiot believes that sort of reckless hyperbole?

oops, looking around......... I guess I've got my answer.

 

[Dr Grump]

why the US is fucked. Been trying to articulate it for years but never been able to do so properly.

TRANSLATION:

1. Progressives spent years giving intel, money and support to China to "level out the playing field."
2. China modernizes, becomes superpower, develops killer virus for which we have no defense.
3. Now Progressives say: "See! I told you America was unraveling!"

oh, lookie, more conspiracy theory pap...

Do feel free to tell us which parts are only a "theory" so I can blow that out of the water too.

Progressives spent years giving intel, money and support to China.

 

[Dr Grump]

I stopped reading after the first paragraph where the idiot called covid an existential threat. Here, we have a virus that kills only a tiny percentage of those it infects, nearly all have serious pre-existing conditions and are mostly over 65. The majority of infected don't know they even have it.

If there is any "unravelling of America" it is quite obviously an intentional act committed by those such as he who are using covid as an excuse for engineering the social upheaval they seek.

"existential threat", my ass. What kind of idiot believes that sort of reckless hyperbole?

oops, looking around......... I guess I've got my answer.

You're a Dumbarse.
Thing that makes me laugh about you neocon whackadoodles is that you think you are the smartest people in the room. One of the downsides to the modern era of the Internet is that it gives a bully pulpit to every failed wannabe academic, whose only point in life is to actually pretend then know more than the actual academics.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I stopped reading after the first paragraph where the idiot called covid an existential threat. Here, we have a virus that kills only a tiny percentage of those it infects, nearly all have serious pre-existing conditions and are mostly over 65. The majority of infected don't know they even have it.

If there is any "unravelling of America" it is quite obviously an intentional act committed by those such as he who are using covid as an excuse for engineering the social upheaval they seek.

"existential threat", my ass. What kind of idiot believes that sort of reckless hyperbole?

oops, looking around......... I guess I've got my answer.

You're a Dumbarse.
Thing that makes me laugh about you neocon whackadoodles is that you think you are the smartest people in the room. One of the downsides to the modern era of the Internet is that it gives a bully pulpit to every failed wannabe academic, whose only point in life is to actually pretend then know more than the actual academics.

My being magnitudes more intelligent than you is simply a statement of fact.

You use the term "neocon" like my children used to use the term "Poopoohead". You haven't the foggiest idea what it means, because if you did, you would realize the geopolitical stance it entails has nothing to do with the subject.

Dumbass.

 

[toobfreak]

Progressives spent years giving intel, money and support to China.

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[bigrebnc1775]

When the community is in a sinking lifeboat I'll swim
Fuck the American left time to thin the heard you fucking irrelevant foreigner. they created the mess they are the disease

Are you drunk? This above makes absolutely no sense on any level - especially grammatically.

You're a fucking irrelevant foreigner.
Leftists created the problems America is having right now there will never be any coming together or meeting in the middle to fix the problems because the left doesn't want them fixed if they did they would stop the childish shit.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

fucking irrelevant foreigner America kicked you ass to get this freedom we have so fuck off

Your avatar says you're a sheepdog. You need to lose the last three letters to describe what you truly are....

You are correct I am a Sheepdog

You are an irrelevant foreigner

 

[OKTexas]

why the US is fucked. Been trying to articulate it for years but never been able to do so properly. And no, this is not anti-American. Like most people in the world, a strong US (as it used to be) is much better than a strong China. So here's the article and some of its highlights.

The Unraveling of America

Anthropologist Wade Davis writes about Covid-19 and its devastating impact on the international standing of the United States.

www.rollingstone.com

Some highlights:

1. But what surely does is the absolutely devastating impact that the pandemic has had on the reputation and international standing of the United States of America.
2. COVID has reduced to tatters the illusion of American exceptionalism.
3. For more than two centuries, reported the Irish Times, “the United States has stirred a very wide range of feelings in the rest of the world: love and hatred, fear and hope, envy and contempt, awe and anger. But there is one emotion that has never been directed towards the U.S. until now: pity.”
4. At its peak, Henry Ford’s Willow Run Plant produced a B-24 Liberator every two hours, around the clock. Shipyards in Long Beach and Sausalito spat out Liberty ships at a rate of two a day for four years
5. But freedom and affluence came with a price. The United States, virtually a demilitarized nation on the eve of the Second World War, never stood down in the wake of victory. To this day, American troops are deployed in 150 countries. Since the 1970s, China has not once gone to war; the U.S. has not spent a day at peace. President Jimmy Carter recently noted that in its 242-year history, America has enjoyed only 16 years of peace.
6. More than any other country, the United States in the post-war era lionized the individual at the expense of community and family. It was the sociological equivalent of splitting the atom. What was gained in terms of mobility and personal freedom came at the expense of common purpose. In wide swaths of America, the family as an institution lost its grounding. By the 1960s, 40 percent of marriages were ending in divorce. Only six percent of American homes had grandparents living beneath the same roof as grandchildren; elders were abandoned to retirement homes
7. The country of the 1950s resembled Denmark as much as the America of today. Marginal tax rates for the wealthy were 90 percent. The salaries of CEOs were, on average, just 20 times that of their mid-management employees. Today, the base pay of those at the top is commonly 400 times that of their salaried staff, with many earning orders of magnitude more in stock options and perks. The elite one percent of Americans control $30 trillion of assets, while the bottom half have more debt than assets.
8. Trump’s performance and America’s crisis deflected attention from China’s own mishandling of the initial outbreak in Wuhan, not to mention its move to crush democracy in Hong Kong.
9. The American president lives to cultivate resentments, demonize his opponents, validate hatred. His main tool of governance is the lie; as of July 9th, 2020, the documented tally of his distortions and false statements numbered 20,055.

These last three are my favourite and sum up every neocon loser on this board. Every..single..one...of...you.

As they stare into the mirror and perceive only the myth of their exceptionalism, Americans remain almost bizarrely incapable of seeing what has actually become of their country. The republic that defined the free flow of information as the life blood of democracy, today ranks 45th among nations when it comes to press freedom.

The American cult of the individual denies not just community but the very idea of society. No one owes anything to anyone. All must be prepared to fight for everything: education, shelter, food, medical care. What every prosperous and successful democracy deems to be fundamental rights — universal health care, equal access to quality public education, a social safety net for the weak, elderly, and infirmed — America dismisses as socialist indulgences, as if so many signs of weakness.


American politicians dismiss the Scandinavian model as creeping socialism, communism lite, something that would never work in the United States. In truth, social democracies are successful precisely because they foment dynamic capitalist economies that just happen to benefit every tier of society.

If we could just get rid of all of the Democrats....this pattern of lowered expectations would immediately go away.

They're not the problem. The biggest problem is the US has no sense of community. It's all about 'me, me, me"...Read the fucking article Mud....you're smart enough to get it. Most on the right aren't.

The fucking article is bullshit, my mother-in-law lived with my wife and I until she passed in our home. She was bed ridden for the last 3.5 years and we never once thought of putting her in a nursing home. Neither of my parents ever lived in a nursing home. So take your commie BS and shove it.

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[Dogmaphobe]

take your commie BS and shove it.

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If you need any help by way of location, just let me know.

It is obvious that this thread is simply a matter that some here WANT to unravel America because they hate America since they contribute nothing to it. They are happy to see Covid being exploited as a tool for our destruction along with the unleashing of the domestic terrorist groups they support. It is wishful thinking on the part of these creatures.

Those of us who are healthy and productive DO NOT wish for the unravelling of America because we have a stake in this country rather than being worthless pieces of shit who only want to destroy.

 

[cnm]

I also come up with my own ideas and insights
[...]
It takes a Titan like Trump to speak for many other *individuals* like me

The compartmentalised thinking is strong in this one...