This is why we need a living wage

[Andylusion]

the same amount as a 45 year married fry cook with 3 kids and a mortgage--minimum wage as long as someone else equally capable is willing to do it at minimum wage

If you are 45, and working part time, as a fry cook, when you have 3 kids and mortgage..... then you are an idiot.

Why? If your spouse earns enough to support, or mostly support the family, any money is "extra" and McDonald'has flexible hours and doesn't require any skills.

All of that is true, but at same time if you are in fact 45 years old... unless you have been in a comma for 20 years, you MUST HAVE some amount of skills, that would be worth more than McDonald's burger flipper at minimum wage. I refuse to believe you are 45 and have no skills whatsoever. What have you been doing for the last 25 years?

And if you have skills, and refuse to use them, that is kinda stupid in my book.

There are NUMEROUS jobs that can earn more than minimum wage with very little effort.

Can you push a mower? You can write your own scheduled there too. You can earn the same amount of money working 3 days a week, mowing lawns, as you can 40 hours at McDs.

You could even walk dogs 3 days a week, and earn more than 40 hours a McDs.

Heck you could run a steamer carpet cleaner, and earn 5 times a wage at McDs. How much skill is requires to push a steam sweeper system across of floor? You can make your own hours then too.

The only way working at McDs makes any intelligent sense, is if you intend to go through their management training, and they require you to work a year as a minimum wage burger flipper.

I don't know if that's a requirement or not, but that's the only way it makes sense. Otherwise, honestly, you are lazy. Get your butt in gear, and do something with your life.

Only if you get your CDL, which Is an investment you might not want, and the hours and travel can be difficult.

Well crap... if the excuse is "I don't want to", then you deserve what you get. Every good thing in life takes effort. Everything worth doing, takes sweat equity. If you are not willing to do anything because "I don't want to", then you don't deserve jack squat, and certainly nothing from society.

And by the way, getting a CDL isn't hard at all. I got my CDL. My co-worker lady got her CDL. Two of the ladies actually have their CDL. I've seen guys in their 60s getting CDL, and young boys 19 years old getting their CDL. It's not hard. You can come up with an excuse for everything in life, but that just make you a wimp. Do what you need to do to succeed in life, or shut up.

perhaps, but would it meet the schedule you want and would it require additional investment (of time or money) and would it be something you want to do?

You don't get everything you want in life. Sometimes you have to do what you have to do. One time after a was laid off from a job, I got the most miserable job I have ever had. It was 4 PM to 1 AM, working in a factory making propane tanks. It was August, and when the temp was 90ºF outside, it was 110ºF inside. And at the same time you had to wear protective goggles, and arm bands, and mittens, because the propane tanks rolling off the line, were hot enough that if your skin touched them, it would melt, and stay on them.

You started sweating the moment you entered the plant. You didn't stop until long after you started for home. When you got home, you had a showered and washed the crystallized salt from your sweat, out of your hair.

You think it was fun? You think I was having a cheery time? Dancing on my way to work? Of course not.

But I'm not a boy. I'm an adult, and I have bills, and I have to take care of my responsibilities. You don't get to whine about "well I want the shift I want, and the flexibility I want, and I don't want anything that requires too much effort, or any real skills, or any discomfort in my life......."

That's baby talk. Grow up. Be a man. Turn off the TV, and start working like the rest of us.

Now I didn't do that forever, but I paid my bills, while I looked for another job. And I eventually got another job, more in line with what I like to do. But I get a little tired of this

"well I don't want to do anything I don't like, and I'm spoiled, so I'm going to work at McDs because it's easy, and that's all I'll do with my life is whatever is easy."

That's something a pathetic person says.

 

[Andylusion]

It doesn't matter what you want.

If you need more money to support your family you do what you have to to make it happen.

That is what an adult does.

Drug dealing, prostitution, murder for hire?

Well when we make it harder for people to find jobs with laws that make employing low skilled labor, less profitable.... then yah, that's not their fault, that's socialists fault for killing jobs.

Also when you defend every murderer, and protect every criminal, and attack every policeman for doing his job... then yah, that's going to happen socialists defend criminal activity.

 

[Bush92]

The Shocking Truth About What It Would Cost Us All If Walmart Paid A Living Wage

Watch the video.

$300,000,000 a year in food stamps just for walmart employees. Give them a living wage and we pay an extra 1.4% on their goods. One penny for every dollar spent at Walmart and those employees would not need to live on food stamps.

I want everyone in America to have a"living wage." Why are we worried about a company that imports Chinese products that used to be made in America? The real question is "Why did we allow all these jobs to go over to China?" Wal-Mart is our largest employer outside US Armed Forces. We make war and sell garbage. Thanks Washington DC.

 

[sameech]

The Shocking Truth About What It Would Cost Us All If Walmart Paid A Living Wage

Watch the video.

$300,000,000 a year in food stamps just for walmart employees. Give them a living wage and we pay an extra 1.4% on their goods. One penny for every dollar spent at Walmart and those employees would not need to live on food stamps.

I want everyone in America to have a"living wage." Why are we worried about a company that imports Chinese products that used to be made in America? The real question is "Why did we allow all these jobs to go over to China?" Wal-Mart is our largest employer outside US Armed Forces. We make war and sell garbage. Thanks Washington DC.

Because Americans are cheapskates who are not willing to pay $15 for a made in america towel when they could 5 just as good at Walmart for the same money, and nobody in the third world will be buying that towel that costs them a day's pay, so.......we need to make cheap crap the rest of the world will buy, or just suck it up and stop expecting corporations to give us a job.

 

[KissMy]

The Shocking Truth About What It Would Cost Us All If Walmart Paid A Living Wage

$300,000,000 a year in food stamps just for walmart employees. Give them a living wage and we pay an extra 1.4% on their goods. One penny for every dollar spent at Walmart and those employees would not need to live on food stamps.

Both Bush's & Republicans EXPLODED Food Stamp SNAP spending. Clinton cut it during his entire presidency & Obama is cutting it in his second term.

 

[KissMy]

http://www.upworthy.com/the-shockin...would-cost-us-all-if-walmart-paid-living-wage
I want everyone in America to have a"living wage." Why are we worried about a company that imports Chinese products that used to be made in America? The real question is "Why did we allow all these jobs to go over to China?" Wal-Mart is our largest employer outside US Armed Forces. We make war and sell garbage. Thanks Washington DC.

You lie. You worship Bush & republicans for crushing US worker wages & giving tax breaks to companies who send jobs to china. You voted for it every time & you will do it again this election.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

The Shocking Truth About What It Would Cost Us All If Walmart Paid A Living Wage $300,000,000 a year in food stamps just for walmart employees. Give them a living wage and we pay an extra 1.4% on their goods. One penny for every dollar spent at Walmart and those employees would not need to live on food stamps. Both Bush's & Republicans EXPLODED Food Stamp SNAP spending. Clinton cut it during his entire presidency & Obama is cutting it in his second term. Talk about BS http://www.fns.usda.gov/sites/default/files/pd/SNAPsummary.pdf SNAP expenditures in 2013 were over DOUBLE what they were in 2007. ANd they show no sign of going down.

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[RKMBrown]

The Shocking Truth About What It Would Cost Us All If Walmart Paid A Living Wage

$300,000,000 a year in food stamps just for walmart employees. Give them a living wage and we pay an extra 1.4% on their goods. One penny for every dollar spent at Walmart and those employees would not need to live on food stamps.

Both Bush's & Republicans EXPLODED Food Stamp SNAP spending. Clinton cut it during his entire presidency & Obama is cutting it in his second term.

ROFL ^ retarded democrat taking credit for welfare reform that the republicans shoved down their throats with them screaming and kicking the whole way. ROFL

 

[RKMBrown]

I want everyone in America to have a"living wage." Why are we worried about a company that imports Chinese products that used to be made in America? The real question is "Why did we allow all these jobs to go over to China?" Wal-Mart is our largest employer outside US Armed Forces. We make war and sell garbage. Thanks Washington DC.

You lie. You worship Bush & republicans for crushing US worker wages & giving tax breaks to companies who send jobs to china. You voted for it every time & you will do it again this election.

^ lying POS ass hole.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Living wage? Here's a suggestion get off your dead ass and get a better paying job.
wages are based on a need for services not how much the person think they are.

 

[KissMy]

The Shocking Truth About What It Would Cost Us All If Walmart Paid A Living Wage $300,000,000 a year in food stamps just for walmart employees. Give them a living wage and we pay an extra 1.4% on their goods. One penny for every dollar spent at Walmart and those employees would not need to live on food stamps. Both Bush's & Republicans EXPLODED Food Stamp SNAP spending. Clinton cut it during his entire presidency & Obama is cutting it in his second term. Talk about BS http://www.fns.usda.gov/sites/default/files/pd/SNAPsummary.pdf SNAP expenditures in 2013 were over DOUBLE what they were in 2007. ANd they show no sign of going down.

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

You are a dishonest asshole. Bush was president from 2001 to 2009 causing SNAP spending to increase over 300%. They only increased 30% under Obama & are now decreasing. SNAP spending was decreasing all during Clinton's entire presidency, then Bush caused it to explode 10 times more than Obama.

Marketwatch - Obama spending binge never happened

 

[Bush92]

I want everyone in America to have a"living wage." Why are we worried about a company that imports Chinese products that used to be made in America? The real question is "Why did we allow all these jobs to go over to China?" Wal-Mart is our largest employer outside US Armed Forces. We make war and sell garbage. Thanks Washington DC.

You lie. You worship Bush & republicans for crushing US worker wages & giving tax breaks to companies who send jobs to china. You voted for it every time & you will do it again this election.

Democrats have done what to save American jobs? Oh, please explain Clinton, Gore, and NAFTA to me again.

 

[Bush92]

The Shocking Truth About What It Would Cost Us All If Walmart Paid A Living Wage $300,000,000 a year in food stamps just for walmart employees. Give them a living wage and we pay an extra 1.4% on their goods. One penny for every dollar spent at Walmart and those employees would not need to live on food stamps. Both Bush's & Republicans EXPLODED Food Stamp SNAP spending. Clinton cut it during his entire presidency & Obama is cutting it in his second term. Talk about BS http://www.fns.usda.gov/sites/default/files/pd/SNAPsummary.pdf SNAP expenditures in 2013 were over DOUBLE what they were in 2007. ANd they show no sign of going down.

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

You are a dishonest asshole. Bush was president from 2001 to 2009 causing SNAP spending to increase over 300%. They only increased 30% under Obama & are now decreasing. SNAP spending was decreasing all during Clinton's entire presidency, then Bush caused it to explode 10 times more than Obama.

Marketwatch - Obama spending binge never happened

Oh look, more bullshit lies from Washington DC.

 

[RKMBrown]

The Shocking Truth About What It Would Cost Us All If Walmart Paid A Living Wage $300,000,000 a year in food stamps just for walmart employees. Give them a living wage and we pay an extra 1.4% on their goods. One penny for every dollar spent at Walmart and those employees would not need to live on food stamps. Both Bush's & Republicans EXPLODED Food Stamp SNAP spending. Clinton cut it during his entire presidency & Obama is cutting it in his second term. Talk about BS http://www.fns.usda.gov/sites/default/files/pd/SNAPsummary.pdf SNAP expenditures in 2013 were over DOUBLE what they were in 2007. ANd they show no sign of going down.

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

You are a dishonest asshole. Bush was president from 2001 to 2009 causing SNAP spending to increase over 300%. They only increased 30% under Obama & are now decreasing. SNAP spending was decreasing all during Clinton's entire presidency, then Bush caused it to explode 10 times more than Obama.

Marketwatch - Obama spending binge never happened

^retard thinks Obama started in 2010 ROFL

 

[AquaAthena]

If workers want a living wage, they need to get an education and earn one. Period!

The culture of dependency is so upon us, that concept seems ridiculous to the multitudes.

 

[sameech]

You are a dishonest asshole. Bush was president from 2001 to 2009 causing SNAP spending to increase over 300%. They only increased 30% under Obama & are now decreasing. SNAP spending was decreasing all during Clinton's entire presidency, then Bush caused it to explode 10 times more than Obama.

The growth of federal spending has nothing to do with SNAP directly. SNAP grew under Bush because the 1996 deep cuts to funding for the program reversed itself. In inflation adjusted dollars, SNAP doubled under Bush and has almost doubled under Obama who also oversaw its high water mark during the recession. If there is a decrease trending, it isn't because of Obama but because of the GOP in the House diddling with the farm bill.

Rep. Tom Cole says food stamp spending doubled under Bush doubled again under Obama PolitiFact

My guess is you are one of those people who would turn around and claim what you are claiming today, and then blame the GOP for causing that which you praise Obama for causing today. Poverty is a complex issue and IMHO, democrat apologists who are data point pirates add nothing to the debate about effectiveness of existing programs, ways to shore them up or new ways to address poverty and middle of the middle-class job loss. Screw the partisan nonsense--call a spade a spade and stop trying to put perfume on the turd. US policy toward the poor has sucked and will continue to suck no matter who is President and which party goes beside their name.

 

[sameech]

If workers want a living wage, they need to get an education and earn one. Period!

The culture of dependency is so upon us, that concept seems ridiculous to the multitudes.

That is rather naive, but probably closer to the truth than what the DNC spinners want people to believe.

 

[rightwinger]

The Shocking Truth About What It Would Cost Us All If Walmart Paid A Living Wage

Watch the video.

$300,000,000 a year in food stamps just for walmart employees. Give them a living wage and we pay an extra 1.4% on their goods. One penny for every dollar spent at Walmart and those employees would not need to live on food stamps.

Has someone figured out the magic formula to define a "living" wage?

Or should each employee be paid according to how much money they need to "live?"

Well, maybe we can start at the point they no longer need public assistance

 

[sameech]

The Shocking Truth About What It Would Cost Us All If Walmart Paid A Living Wage

Watch the video.

$300,000,000 a year in food stamps just for walmart employees. Give them a living wage and we pay an extra 1.4% on their goods. One penny for every dollar spent at Walmart and those employees would not need to live on food stamps.

Has someone figured out the magic formula to define a "living" wage?

Or should each employee be paid according to how much money they need to "live?"

Well, maybe we can start at the point they no longer need public assistance

Won't happen. The Earned Income Tax Credit saw a growth in single mom's going to work part-time and Walmart is happy to hire such people, unlike many businesses. If you increase wages to what those people would need to support themselves and their families today, then prices would go up so high (or the purchasing power of a dollar go so low, whichever you prefer) that it becomes a wash and those people stay on the dole.

 

[RKMBrown]

The Shocking Truth About What It Would Cost Us All If Walmart Paid A Living Wage

Watch the video.

$300,000,000 a year in food stamps just for walmart employees. Give them a living wage and we pay an extra 1.4% on their goods. One penny for every dollar spent at Walmart and those employees would not need to live on food stamps.

Has someone figured out the magic formula to define a "living" wage?

Or should each employee be paid according to how much money they need to "live?"

Well, maybe we can start at the point they no longer need public assistance

Won't happen. The Earned Income Tax Credit saw a growth in single mom's going to work part-time and Walmart is happy to hire such people, unlike many businesses. If you increase wages to what those people would need to support themselves and their families today, then prices would go up so high (or the purchasing power of a dollar go so low, whichever you prefer) that it becomes a wash and those people stay on the dole.

Sort of... the way the rules work the feds don't care if you get paid 500 an hour. What they care about is you don't earn more than the minimum amount necessary to receive welfare checks. Thus giving part time employees a raise from 7.50 to 15 bucks an hour would just mean the part time employees would stop working at 15 hours instead of stopping at 30hrs as any work over 15hrs would mean they loose their welfare checks.