This is Why Blacks Don't Listen to Black Sellouts

[John T. Ford]

MLK was fighting for reparations. That's why the racist conservative whites kill had him assassinated.

I didn't say anything about MLK's assassination Jackass.

My point still stands.

 

[IM2]

"In the late 1800s, depending on the city, 70% to 80% of black households were two-parent. Dr. Thomas Sowell has argued, “The black family, which had survived centuries of slavery and discrimination, began rapidly disintegrating in the liberal welfare state that subsidized unwed pregnancy and changed welfare from an emergency rescue to a way of life.”

The Social Security Act of 1935 created the Social Security program, state unemployment insurance, and assistance to single women with children. Today most Americans love the program. However, when the act was signed, the law was made to exclude occupations that were mainly occupied by blacks. When President Roosevelt signed the law, 65 percent of blacks in America were ineligible. So for years a majority of blacks were excluded from social security savings and could not get unemployment.

Time out! Hold up! Whoa! Let’s take a short break from the action to talk about the assistance to single women with children part of the Social Security Act. Title 4 or IV of the social security act of 1935 called for grants in aid to be provided to each stated as Aid To Dependent Children. “ For the purpose of enabling each State to furnish financial assistance, as far as practicable under the conditions in such State, to needy dependent children, there is hereby authorized to be appropriated for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1936, the sum of $24,750,000, and there is hereby authorized to be appropriated for each fiscal year thereafter a sum sufficient to carry out the purposes of this title. The sums made available under this section shall be used for making payments to States which have submitted, and had approved by the Board, State plans for aid to dependent children.”

This was welfare folks. Assistance for single moms with children without daddy at home. In 1935. Blacks were excluded. Seems that Sowell is unable to point this out and in fact this is part of long tradition of taking care of poor single parent white families.

Aid to Dependent Children or ADC (later renamed Aid to Families with Dependent Children, AFDC) was Title IV of the Social Security Act of 1935. At first it functioned mainly to provide federal grants to help the states maintain their mothers’ aid laws that had been passed in 40 states between 1910 and 1920. With the federal government providing 1/3 of costs, the program offered aid to poor parents, imagined at that time to be always female, caring for children without a husband.

The ADC plan was written by the former directors of the U.S. Children’s Bureau in the Department of Labor, Grace Abbott and Katherine Lenroot. They lobbied hard to get this program added to the Social Security bill, which was aimed at male breadwinners, reflecting the masculinist assumptions and composition of the Committee on Economic Security (CES) that wrote the bill. The Children’s Bureau’s goal was to provide aid to all children whose mothers lacked the support of a breadwinner, no matter how they got to that position.

Aid To Dependent Children: The Legal History

For its first three decades, AFDC operated much like a private charity, with its case workers given discretion in investigating clients, cutting off benefits to those determined to be unsuitable, a…

socialwelfare.library.vcu.edu

Children’s Bureau

Written by Kriste Lindenmeyer, Ph.D., Professor of History, University of Maryland, Baltimore County. The establishment of the U.S. Children’s Bureau in 1912 marked a high point in the effort by ma…

socialwelfare.library.vcu.edu

From the time of the Childrens Bureau until 1965 no one talked about how the welfare state was wrong and subsisided the disintegration of the white family. It was seen as essential assistance needed to help women without husbands who had children. Only when the law required that others be included did the story change to how the welfare state was wrong and destructive.

As late as 1950, only 18% of black households were single parent. From 1890 to 1940, a slightly higher percentage of black adults had married than white adults. In 1938, black illegitimacy was about 11% instead of today’s 75%. In 1925, 85% of black households in New York City were two-parent. Today, the black family is a mere shadow of its past."-Walter Williams

In 1938 During this time of great black 2 parent family morality, the poverty rate for blacks was 80 percent. In 1959, it was 55 percent. These sky high rates of poverty occurred during the time these fools rant about the black 2 parent family. Today due to the " liberal welfare state breaking up the black family by giving them welfare" black poverty is half of what it was in 1959 and more than 1/3 of what it was in those grand old glorious days of the two parent black family.

Blacks afflicted with Internalized racism repeating bs from Daniel Moynihan should not be taken seriously in any discussion on matters of race in America.

Ross, C., Danziger, S. & Smolensky, E. The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979. Demography 24, 587–600 (1987). The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979 | Demography | Duke University Press

Table 2. Poverty Status of People by Family Relationship, Race, and Hispanic Origin: 1959 to 2014, US Department of the Census, http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/data/historical/people.html

Facts!

Black Americans' biggest problem remains racism via government policies and culture from the dominant white society.

Yet you continue to vote for the very people like Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer who keep you poor...Notice how you gasoline prices have gone up, sure isnt making you rich, notice how the taxes are going up, sure isnt making you rich...I used to feel sorry for the poor, but when they vote for the very people who keep them poor, i just laugh at their stupidity...

Now you're just a dumb ass. For you to actually believe that shows you have a supreme mental disibility. If the republican party offered something better we'd vote republican. You motherfuckers are trying to make it harder for us to vote and you're trying to tell us that stale ass lie you right wing racist punks repeat every day. Why in the FUCK would I join a party full of white USMB members?

Now stop lying about why gas prices are going up and stop lying about taxes. The only people working to make us poorer are republicans and we would be extremely stupid to support the Anglo Saxon Heritage Caucus.

Republicans had the black vote for 60 years.
Then they sold them out for the southern conservative vote

Yes, blacks were republicans for 100 years. Then they nominated Goldwater and that was the lat straw.

Blacks started to migrate to Democrats under FDR
Why? Because his programs helped them.

They supported JFK for the same reason

Once LBJ passed Civil Rights legislation, Blacks became firm Democrats and Republicans scrambled to recruit disgruntled white racists

You mean once Democrats started buying votes with taxpayer money Blacks became firm Democrats...right Winger? So how has that REALLY worked out for the average Black person living in our big cities? Is their life better than it was before? Safer? Or have liberal policies turned vast areas of American cities into wastelands unfit to live in?

As you have been shown, everything you say is untrue.

The Great Mississippi Flood of 1927 was the most destructive river flood in the history of the United States. Twenty-seven thousand square miles of the United States was under up to 30 feet of water. Because of this flood, the federal government built the system of levees and floodways we see along the Mississippi River today. More than 200,000 African Americans were displaced from their homes along the Mississippi and had to live for lengthy periods in “relief camps.” Calling them relief camps is overly kind. Blacks got whatever was left. African Americans could not receive supplies without providing the name of a white employer or a voucher from somebody white. Means of evacuation after flooding were given to primarily to whites. Blacks were made to work against their will and were not allowed to leave. In some discussions it has been said that blacks were put in concentration camps. Whether or not that is true, blacks were subject to dangerous and inhumane conditions.

Walter White, then the president of the NAACP visited the Mississippi delta. When he returned to New York he had some very choice words for the conditions he saw that blacks had to endure. “Negroes in hundreds of cases were forced to work at the point of guns on the levees long after it was certain that the levees would break. Conscripted Negro labor did practically all of the hard and dangerous work in fighting the flood. Harrowing as many of these stories are, they are the almost inevitable products of a gigantic catastrophe and are part of the normal picture of the industrial and race situation in certain parts of the South. The greatest and most significant injustice is in the denial to Negroes of the right of free movement and of the privilege of selling their services to the highest bidder. That, if persisted in, would recreate and crystallize a new slavery almost as miserable as the old.” White called the facilities the federal troops used to hold until their employers could claim them concentration camps.

Whites report as well as others caught the attention of Herbert Hoover who was then U.S. Secretary of Commerce. Hoover was responsible for flood relief. In classic racist fashion without white oversight, the report from a black person on the condition they saw other blacks enduring would not be good enough for the whites in charge. So Hoover decided he needed to create a Colored Advisory Committee. This committee was appointed to investigate the NAACP’s complaints. The Colored Advisory Committee was chaired by Tuskegee Institute president Robert Moton, with eleven other people from Tuskegee serving as committee members. Hoover was using black conservatives in hopes that what came from the Booker T Washington side would be less critical and could be used to discredit the drilling the federal government took from the NAACP. Once again, the Washington philosophy failed black Americans in spectacular fashion.

After the NAACP roasted the government, Hoover, who was thinking about a presidential run, was told by advisors to find prominent blacks and get them involved in evaluating the condition reported by White in order address the criticism from the NAACP. Such is why Hoover used Moton to Chair the Colored Advisory Committee. I describe this as using because that’s exactly what Hoover did. The Committee goes to investigate the situation in Mississippi. On December 12, 1927, The Colored Advisory Commission sent Hoover a letter with the findings from their investigation. They reported on the conditions they found on arrival and made 13 recommendations to Hoover.

Moton presented the findings of the commission to Hoover and advocated for immediate assistance to those most in need. Hoover asked Moton to not let information contained in the commission report be leaked to the public. Moton did as requested and kept the findings from the public. In return for doing that, Hoover hinted to Moton that if he get elected president, Moton and his people would be part of the Hoover administration. Hoover also implied that as president he would to divide the land of planters bankrupted from the flood into African American-owned farms.

Because of these promises, Moton made sure the Commission did not leak the full story of what they saw and were told by blacks who were suffering mightily in the Mississippi delta. Moton then pumped up the Hoover's candidacy in the African American community. Once he was elected President in 1928, Hoover caught a case of amnesia and forgot about the promises he made to Moton and the black community. To quote Ice Cube, Moton got, “fucked out of his green by a white boy with no Vaseline.” In 1932 Moton ended being accommodating and when he finished, the damage he did to the republican party has lasted to this very day. Moton withdrew his support for Hoover and switched to the Democratic Party. His move created a historic shift as African Americans began to abandon the Republicans Party, the party of Lincoln, the party of the Emancipation Proclamation, and turned to the Democratic Party.

But a few stragglers stayed faithful to the Republican party still after 70 years of the party ignoring blacks and breaking promises. Until 1964. That was when a democrat signed what amounted to our second Emancipation Proclamation when President Lyndon Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act. Members of todays republican party spin a disingenuous tale about republican support for the Civil Rights and voting rights act. They tell about a democratic filibuster and will tell us that more democrats opposed these bills than republicans. These things are true. But they only tell part of the story. As it pertains to the Civil Rights Act, 153 democrats and 139 republicans voted in favor of the legislation in the house . In the senate, 46 democrats and 27 republicans voted for the Civil Rights Act. In the house, 221 democrats voted for the Voting Rights Act, 112 republicans did. In the senate, 47 democrats voted for the Voting Rights Act, 30 republicans did.

By 1964 there were blacks whose families had been republicans for almost 100 years. Despite loyal black support, Republicans nominated Barry Goldwater for president. Goldwater voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act. His nomination was a slap in the face of black people. When we got civil rights, republicans decided that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, turned their backs on us and began letting southern white racists become part of the party. The history of the republican party is one of broken promises to black people. All today’s republican establishment does for blacks is throw out Uncle Toms or Aunties and tell us they are the ones we should listen to. Black republicans that do not deny that racism exists are part of the party, but you will not see them on Fox News. We are not republicans because republicans took a knee on us. Now they want us to come back so they can implement policies that will put a chokehold on us. The republican party is anti-affirmative action, anti-civil rights, anti-voting rights, pro maintenance of the memory of the confederacy but we are supposed to run to the republican party because Abraham Lincoln freed slaves from the same confederacy republicans defend today.

 

[BS Filter]

"In the late 1800s, depending on the city, 70% to 80% of black households were two-parent. Dr. Thomas Sowell has argued, “The black family, which had survived centuries of slavery and discrimination, began rapidly disintegrating in the liberal welfare state that subsidized unwed pregnancy and changed welfare from an emergency rescue to a way of life.”

The Social Security Act of 1935 created the Social Security program, state unemployment insurance, and assistance to single women with children. Today most Americans love the program. However, when the act was signed, the law was made to exclude occupations that were mainly occupied by blacks. When President Roosevelt signed the law, 65 percent of blacks in America were ineligible. So for years a majority of blacks were excluded from social security savings and could not get unemployment.

Time out! Hold up! Whoa! Let’s take a short break from the action to talk about the assistance to single women with children part of the Social Security Act. Title 4 or IV of the social security act of 1935 called for grants in aid to be provided to each stated as Aid To Dependent Children. “ For the purpose of enabling each State to furnish financial assistance, as far as practicable under the conditions in such State, to needy dependent children, there is hereby authorized to be appropriated for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1936, the sum of $24,750,000, and there is hereby authorized to be appropriated for each fiscal year thereafter a sum sufficient to carry out the purposes of this title. The sums made available under this section shall be used for making payments to States which have submitted, and had approved by the Board, State plans for aid to dependent children.”

This was welfare folks. Assistance for single moms with children without daddy at home. In 1935. Blacks were excluded. Seems that Sowell is unable to point this out and in fact this is part of long tradition of taking care of poor single parent white families.

Aid to Dependent Children or ADC (later renamed Aid to Families with Dependent Children, AFDC) was Title IV of the Social Security Act of 1935. At first it functioned mainly to provide federal grants to help the states maintain their mothers’ aid laws that had been passed in 40 states between 1910 and 1920. With the federal government providing 1/3 of costs, the program offered aid to poor parents, imagined at that time to be always female, caring for children without a husband.

The ADC plan was written by the former directors of the U.S. Children’s Bureau in the Department of Labor, Grace Abbott and Katherine Lenroot. They lobbied hard to get this program added to the Social Security bill, which was aimed at male breadwinners, reflecting the masculinist assumptions and composition of the Committee on Economic Security (CES) that wrote the bill. The Children’s Bureau’s goal was to provide aid to all children whose mothers lacked the support of a breadwinner, no matter how they got to that position.

Aid To Dependent Children: The Legal History

For its first three decades, AFDC operated much like a private charity, with its case workers given discretion in investigating clients, cutting off benefits to those determined to be unsuitable, a…

socialwelfare.library.vcu.edu

Children’s Bureau

Written by Kriste Lindenmeyer, Ph.D., Professor of History, University of Maryland, Baltimore County. The establishment of the U.S. Children’s Bureau in 1912 marked a high point in the effort by ma…

socialwelfare.library.vcu.edu

From the time of the Childrens Bureau until 1965 no one talked about how the welfare state was wrong and subsisided the disintegration of the white family. It was seen as essential assistance needed to help women without husbands who had children. Only when the law required that others be included did the story change to how the welfare state was wrong and destructive.

As late as 1950, only 18% of black households were single parent. From 1890 to 1940, a slightly higher percentage of black adults had married than white adults. In 1938, black illegitimacy was about 11% instead of today’s 75%. In 1925, 85% of black households in New York City were two-parent. Today, the black family is a mere shadow of its past."-Walter Williams

In 1938 During this time of great black 2 parent family morality, the poverty rate for blacks was 80 percent. In 1959, it was 55 percent. These sky high rates of poverty occurred during the time these fools rant about the black 2 parent family. Today due to the " liberal welfare state breaking up the black family by giving them welfare" black poverty is half of what it was in 1959 and more than 1/3 of what it was in those grand old glorious days of the two parent black family.

Blacks afflicted with Internalized racism repeating bs from Daniel Moynihan should not be taken seriously in any discussion on matters of race in America.

Ross, C., Danziger, S. & Smolensky, E. The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979. Demography 24, 587–600 (1987). The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979 | Demography | Duke University Press

Table 2. Poverty Status of People by Family Relationship, Race, and Hispanic Origin: 1959 to 2014, US Department of the Census, http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/data/historical/people.html

Facts!

Black Americans' biggest problem remains racism via government policies and culture from the dominant white society.

Yet you continue to vote for the very people like Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer who keep you poor...Notice how you gasoline prices have gone up, sure isnt making you rich, notice how the taxes are going up, sure isnt making you rich...I used to feel sorry for the poor, but when they vote for the very people who keep them poor, i just laugh at their stupidity...

Now you're just a dumb ass. For you to actually believe that shows you have a supreme mental disibility. If the republican party offered something better we'd vote republican. You motherfuckers are trying to make it harder for us to vote and you're trying to tell us that stale ass lie you right wing racist punks repeat every day. Why in the FUCK would I join a party full of white USMB members?

Now stop lying about why gas prices are going up and stop lying about taxes. The only people working to make us poorer are republicans and we would be extremely stupid to support the Anglo Saxon Heritage Caucus.

Republicans had the black vote for 60 years.
Then they sold them out for the southern conservative vote

Yes, blacks were republicans for 100 years. Then they nominated Goldwater and that was the lat straw.

Blacks started to migrate to Democrats under FDR
Why? Because his programs helped them.

They supported JFK for the same reason

Once LBJ passed Civil Rights legislation, Blacks became firm Democrats and Republicans scrambled to recruit disgruntled white racists

You mean once Democrats started buying votes with taxpayer money Blacks became firm Democrats...right Winger? So how has that REALLY worked out for the average Black person living in our big cities? Is their life better than it was before? Safer? Or have liberal policies turned vast areas of American cities into wastelands unfit to live in?

You do realize what the Great Depression was don’t you?
FDR centered recovery on helping struggling people rather than struggling corporations. That included blacks

How have blacks in the Big City done under Democrats vs what Republicans offered them?
Much better with urban enterprise zones, education programs, jobs training, healthcare, food and housing programs

What have Republicans done for inner city blacks other than build more prisons?

Are Black people supposed to live their lives depending upon government programs or at some point become like every other citizen?

No

But in the US we help people who need helping

And the fact that these government programs have been growing for over 50 years now shouldn't be a concern, huh.

 

[MarcATL]

I didn't say anything about MLK's assassination Jackass.

My point still stands.

Wrong and strong like the dunce I expected you to be.

#LOLGOP #TooFunny #CLASSIC

 

[BS Filter]

You are a disgusting Racist.

The very kind of Racist Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. called out in his "I Have a Dream" speech.

MLK was fighting for reparations. That's why the racist conservative whites had him assassinated.

You're insane.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

You are a disgusting Racist.

The very kind of Racist Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. called out in his "I Have a Dream" speech.

MLK was fighting for reparations. That's why the racist conservative whites had him assassinated.

Democrats had him assassinated...

 

[IM2]

MLK was fighting for reparations. That's why the racist conservative whites kill had him assassinated.

I didn't say anything about MLK's assassination Jackass.

My point still stands.

No it doesn't . You made the standard comment white racist trash makes anytime black say something that rebukes their racism. You never talk that content of character shit when you post your racist bullshit innthreads with other whites. Keep Dr. Kings name out of your mouth you racist piece of shit because you are being judged by the content of your character. You have shown us that tge content of your character is racist.

So until you start telling the other whites here to follow Dr. King, you can kiss the innermost moistest part of my ass.

 

[Canon Shooter]

You are a disgusting Racist.

The very kind of Racist Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. called out in his "I Have a Dream" speech.

MLK was fighting for reparations. That's why the racist conservative whites had him assassinated.

How much will make you whole? Can you assign a dollar amount to it?

You're gonna' need to, because if you believe there's just going to be some never-ending stream of money landing in your bank account, you're fucking high.

At one point, IM2 said it was $56,000. When I asked him he would shut the fuck up if the government gave him such a reparation, he backpedaled.

You negroes want reparations? Fine. Give us a number or, for the love of all that's holy, shut the fuck up...

 

[BS Filter]

MLK was fighting for reparations. That's why the racist conservative whites kill had him assassinated.

I didn't say anything about MLK's assassination Jackass.

My point still stands.

No it doesn't . You made the standard comment white racist trash makes anytime black say something that rebukes their racidm. You never talk that content of character shit when you post your racist bullshit innthreads with other whites. Keep Dr. Kings name out of your mouth you racist piece of shit because you are being judged by the content of your character. You have shown us that tge content of your character is racist.

So until you start telling the other whitehere to follow Dr. King, you can kiss the innermost moistest part of my ass.

You're insane.

 

[IM2]

You are a disgusting Racist.

The very kind of Racist Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. called out in his "I Have a Dream" speech.

MLK was fighting for reparations. That's why the racist conservative whites had him assassinated.

You're insane.

He is correct.

It is really time whites on the far right stopped. You are not fooling anybody with your garbage. We blacks know what King stood for. Those my age and those younger are charged by their supreme sacrifice not to let down, quit, sell out, or turn into Uncle Tom’s to be accorded our rightful place in this society. That means we control the economic, social, and political environments in our community. The day has come to demand economic equality, which is the basis of all equality in a capitalist system. That is what Rev. Martin Luther King was moving towards when James Earl Ray showed the content of his character on April 4th, 1968.

"At the very same time that America refused to give the Negro any land, through an act of Congress our government was giving away millions of acres of land in the West and the Midwest, which meant it was willing to undergird its white peasants from Europe with an economic floor."

"But not only did they give them land, they built land grant colleges with government money to teach them how to farm. Not only that, they provided county agents to further their expertise in farming. Not only that, they provided low interest rates in order that they could mechanize their farms."

"Not only that, today many of these people are receiving millions of dollars in federal subsidies not to farm, and they are the very people telling the black man that he ought to lift himself by his own bootstraps. And this is what we are faced with, and this is the reality."

"Now, when we come to Washington in this campaign, we are coming to get our check."​

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.​

 

[BS Filter]

You are a disgusting Racist.

The very kind of Racist Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. called out in his "I Have a Dream" speech.

MLK was fighting for reparations. That's why the racist conservative whites had him assassinated.

You're insane.

He is correct.

It is really time whites on the far right stopped. You are not fooling anybody with your garbage. We blacks know what King stood for. Those my age and those younger are charged by their supreme sacrifice not to let down, quit, sell out, or turn into Uncle Tom’s to be accorded our rightful place in this society. That means we control the economic, social, and political environments in our community. The day has come to demand economic equality, which is the basis of all equality in a capitalist system. That is what Rev. Martin Luther King was moving towards when James Earl Ray showed the content of his character on April 4th, 1968.

"At the very same time that America refused to give the Negro any land, through an act of Congress our government was giving away millions of acres of land in the West and the Midwest, which meant it was willing to undergird its white peasants from Europe with an economic floor."

"But not only did they give them land, they built land grant colleges with government money to teach them how to farm. Not only that, they provided county agents to further their expertise in farming. Not only that, they provided low interest rates in order that they could mechanize their farms."

"Not only that, today many of these people are receiving millions of dollars in federal subsidies not to farm, and they are the very people telling the black man that he ought to lift himself by his own bootstraps. And this is what we are faced with, and this is the reality."

"Now, when we come to Washington in this campaign, we are coming to get our check."

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.​

It's Dr. King, you ignorant cocksucker.

 

[IM2]

You are a disgusting Racist.

The very kind of Racist Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. called out in his "I Have a Dream" speech.

MLK was fighting for reparations. That's why the racist conservative whites had him assassinated.

How much will make you whole? Can you assign a dollar amount to it?

You're gonna' need to, because if you believe there's just going to be some never-ending stream of money landing in your bank account, you're fucking high.

At one point, IM2 said it was $56,000. When I asked him he would shut the fuck up if the government gave him such a reparation, he backpedaled.

You negroes want reparations? Fine. Give us a number or, for the love of all that's holy, shut the fuck up...

No one backpedalled you sorry piece of white trash. What I said was that if we just took what we have lost in income since 2000, it would be $56,000 each. But that doesn't cover the other losses since that time, nor does it recoup the lost tax dollars blacks have put in the system since 1913 at minimum that went to programs and policies we were excluded from. So Marc doesn't have to shut up, but perhaps you should.

 

[IM2]

You are a disgusting Racist.

The very kind of Racist Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. called out in his "I Have a Dream" speech.

MLK was fighting for reparations. That's why the racist conservative whites had him assassinated.

You're insane.

He is correct.

It is really time whites on the far right stopped. You are not fooling anybody with your garbage. We blacks know what King stood for. Those my age and those younger are charged by their supreme sacrifice not to let down, quit, sell out, or turn into Uncle Tom’s to be accorded our rightful place in this society. That means we control the economic, social, and political environments in our community. The day has come to demand economic equality, which is the basis of all equality in a capitalist system. That is what Rev. Martin Luther King was moving towards when James Earl Ray showed the content of his character on April 4th, 1968.

"At the very same time that America refused to give the Negro any land, through an act of Congress our government was giving away millions of acres of land in the West and the Midwest, which meant it was willing to undergird its white peasants from Europe with an economic floor."

"But not only did they give them land, they built land grant colleges with government money to teach them how to farm. Not only that, they provided county agents to further their expertise in farming. Not only that, they provided low interest rates in order that they could mechanize their farms."

"Not only that, today many of these people are receiving millions of dollars in federal subsidies not to farm, and they are the very people telling the black man that he ought to lift himself by his own bootstraps. And this is what we are faced with, and this is the reality."

"Now, when we come to Washington in this campaign, we are coming to get our check."

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.​

It's Dr. King, you ignorant cocksucker.

I know who it is. Apparently you don't.

 

[Canon Shooter]

MLK was fighting for reparations. That's why the racist conservative whites kill had him assassinated.

I didn't say anything about MLK's assassination Jackass.

My point still stands.

No it doesn't . You made the standard comment white racist trash makes anytime black say something that rebukes their racidm. You never talk that content of character shit when you post your racist bullshit innthreads with other whites. Keep Dr. Kings name out of your mouth you racist piece of shit because you are being judged by the content of your character. You have shown us that tge content of your character is racist.

So until you start telling the other whitehere to follow Dr. King, you can kiss the innermost moistest part of my ass.

You're the whiniest, most ignorant negro I've ever encountered.

You think I have what I want because of the government. I happen to know otherwise.

But, you know what? Fuck it. I'm done arguing with your monkey ass. I have a really good life. I own three homes. I have six cars and four motorcycles. I own a 51' Viking Sportfisher. I own two successful companies. I'm not "rich", but I'm in better shape than most people I know. And I'm going to throw all of that into your fat monkey face every chance I get.

I'm a better person than you. I do more for others than you could possibly dream of. I donate more money to charitable causes than you make in an entire year. One of the charities was for underprivileged kids in Jacksonville; making sure they have everything from meals to school supplies. And, yes, the charity aids, almost exclusively, black kids. I'm going to stop donating to that, though, simply because I know it's something you would be critical of.

All you do is fucking whine. I counted seven threads you started in which all you do is fucking whine. Whine, whine whine. You're the personification of everything that's wrong with the colored community in this country. You want it all, but you're absolutely petrified by the fear of actually having to work for it.

Fuck you.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

You are a disgusting Racist.

The very kind of Racist Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. called out in his "I Have a Dream" speech.

MLK was fighting for reparations. That's why the racist conservative whites had him assassinated.

How much will make you whole? Can you assign a dollar amount to it?

You're gonna' need to, because if you believe there's just going to be some never-ending stream of money landing in your bank account, you're fucking high.

At one point, IM2 said it was $56,000. When I asked him he would shut the fuck up if the government gave him such a reparation, he backpedaled.

You negroes want reparations? Fine. Give us a number or, for the love of all that's holy, shut the fuck up...

It was Democrats who had slaves, it was Democrats who fought to keep those slaves, it was Democrats that terrorized the slaves when set free. Why dont every Democrat voter pay reparations for all those past transgressions to any person who is still a slave......

 

[Canon Shooter]

You are a disgusting Racist.

The very kind of Racist Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. called out in his "I Have a Dream" speech.

MLK was fighting for reparations. That's why the racist conservative whites had him assassinated.

How much will make you whole? Can you assign a dollar amount to it?

You're gonna' need to, because if you believe there's just going to be some never-ending stream of money landing in your bank account, you're fucking high.

At one point, IM2 said it was $56,000. When I asked him he would shut the fuck up if the government gave him such a reparation, he backpedaled.

You negroes want reparations? Fine. Give us a number or, for the love of all that's holy, shut the fuck up...

No one backpedalled you sorry piece of white trash. What I said was that if we just took what we have lost in income since 2000, it would be $56,000 each. But that doesn't cover the other losses since that time, nor does it recoup the lost tax dollars blacks have put in the system since 1913 at minimum that went to programs and policies we were excluded from. So Marc doesn't have to shut up, but perhaps you should.

You put in nothing in 1913, negro. Not a fucking dime. So why the fuck should you get anything because others did?

The bottom line is this: If you can't assign a dollar amount to how much negroes should get paid in reparations, there's not a single fucking reason to give you reparations. If you get anything, it'll be an amount determined by whites. Why? Because you were too fucking lazy to do it yourself...

 

[MarcATL]

You're insane.

Let's do this then, you racist son-of-a-bitch,
If I can provide video proof of this, you leave the site for good.
But if I can't, then I have to bounce.

What say you?

 

[22lcidw]

"In the late 1800s, depending on the city, 70% to 80% of black households were two-parent. Dr. Thomas Sowell has argued, “The black family, which had survived centuries of slavery and discrimination, began rapidly disintegrating in the liberal welfare state that subsidized unwed pregnancy and changed welfare from an emergency rescue to a way of life.”

The Social Security Act of 1935 created the Social Security program, state unemployment insurance, and assistance to single women with children. Today most Americans love the program. However, when the act was signed, the law was made to exclude occupations that were mainly occupied by blacks. When President Roosevelt signed the law, 65 percent of blacks in America were ineligible. So for years a majority of blacks were excluded from social security savings and could not get unemployment.

Time out! Hold up! Whoa! Let’s take a short break from the action to talk about the assistance to single women with children part of the Social Security Act. Title 4 or IV of the social security act of 1935 called for grants in aid to be provided to each stated as Aid To Dependent Children. “ For the purpose of enabling each State to furnish financial assistance, as far as practicable under the conditions in such State, to needy dependent children, there is hereby authorized to be appropriated for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1936, the sum of $24,750,000, and there is hereby authorized to be appropriated for each fiscal year thereafter a sum sufficient to carry out the purposes of this title. The sums made available under this section shall be used for making payments to States which have submitted, and had approved by the Board, State plans for aid to dependent children.”

This was welfare folks. Assistance for single moms with children without daddy at home. In 1935. Blacks were excluded. Seems that Sowell is unable to point this out and in fact this is part of long tradition of taking care of poor single parent white families.

Aid to Dependent Children or ADC (later renamed Aid to Families with Dependent Children, AFDC) was Title IV of the Social Security Act of 1935. At first it functioned mainly to provide federal grants to help the states maintain their mothers’ aid laws that had been passed in 40 states between 1910 and 1920. With the federal government providing 1/3 of costs, the program offered aid to poor parents, imagined at that time to be always female, caring for children without a husband.

The ADC plan was written by the former directors of the U.S. Children’s Bureau in the Department of Labor, Grace Abbott and Katherine Lenroot. They lobbied hard to get this program added to the Social Security bill, which was aimed at male breadwinners, reflecting the masculinist assumptions and composition of the Committee on Economic Security (CES) that wrote the bill. The Children’s Bureau’s goal was to provide aid to all children whose mothers lacked the support of a breadwinner, no matter how they got to that position.

Aid To Dependent Children: The Legal History

For its first three decades, AFDC operated much like a private charity, with its case workers given discretion in investigating clients, cutting off benefits to those determined to be unsuitable, a…

socialwelfare.library.vcu.edu

Children’s Bureau

Written by Kriste Lindenmeyer, Ph.D., Professor of History, University of Maryland, Baltimore County. The establishment of the U.S. Children’s Bureau in 1912 marked a high point in the effort by ma…

socialwelfare.library.vcu.edu

From the time of the Childrens Bureau until 1965 no one talked about how the welfare state was wrong and subsisided the disintegration of the white family. It was seen as essential assistance needed to help women without husbands who had children. Only when the law required that others be included did the story change to how the welfare state was wrong and destructive.

As late as 1950, only 18% of black households were single parent. From 1890 to 1940, a slightly higher percentage of black adults had married than white adults. In 1938, black illegitimacy was about 11% instead of today’s 75%. In 1925, 85% of black households in New York City were two-parent. Today, the black family is a mere shadow of its past."-Walter Williams

In 1938 During this time of great black 2 parent family morality, the poverty rate for blacks was 80 percent. In 1959, it was 55 percent. These sky high rates of poverty occurred during the time these fools rant about the black 2 parent family. Today due to the " liberal welfare state breaking up the black family by giving them welfare" black poverty is half of what it was in 1959 and more than 1/3 of what it was in those grand old glorious days of the two parent black family.

Blacks afflicted with Internalized racism repeating bs from Daniel Moynihan should not be taken seriously in any discussion on matters of race in America.

Ross, C., Danziger, S. & Smolensky, E. The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979. Demography 24, 587–600 (1987). The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979 | Demography | Duke University Press

Table 2. Poverty Status of People by Family Relationship, Race, and Hispanic Origin: 1959 to 2014, US Department of the Census, http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/data/historical/people.html

Facts!

Black Americans' biggest problem remains racism via government policies and culture from the dominant white society.

Honest conversation is needed on all fronts. No matter who it hurts. Single payer as an idea is not bad. Single payer as an expense may be the worst in the world because we are corrupted as a nation. To many elites in everything take a good cut leaving the peasants to get the rest. You must also include Prog politicians and advisers with clout on this. They have limits to what a citizen could use. Listen to the red flags by them.

 

[rightwinger]

"In the late 1800s, depending on the city, 70% to 80% of black households were two-parent. Dr. Thomas Sowell has argued, “The black family, which had survived centuries of slavery and discrimination, began rapidly disintegrating in the liberal welfare state that subsidized unwed pregnancy and changed welfare from an emergency rescue to a way of life.”

The Social Security Act of 1935 created the Social Security program, state unemployment insurance, and assistance to single women with children. Today most Americans love the program. However, when the act was signed, the law was made to exclude occupations that were mainly occupied by blacks. When President Roosevelt signed the law, 65 percent of blacks in America were ineligible. So for years a majority of blacks were excluded from social security savings and could not get unemployment.

Time out! Hold up! Whoa! Let’s take a short break from the action to talk about the assistance to single women with children part of the Social Security Act. Title 4 or IV of the social security act of 1935 called for grants in aid to be provided to each stated as Aid To Dependent Children. “ For the purpose of enabling each State to furnish financial assistance, as far as practicable under the conditions in such State, to needy dependent children, there is hereby authorized to be appropriated for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1936, the sum of $24,750,000, and there is hereby authorized to be appropriated for each fiscal year thereafter a sum sufficient to carry out the purposes of this title. The sums made available under this section shall be used for making payments to States which have submitted, and had approved by the Board, State plans for aid to dependent children.”

This was welfare folks. Assistance for single moms with children without daddy at home. In 1935. Blacks were excluded. Seems that Sowell is unable to point this out and in fact this is part of long tradition of taking care of poor single parent white families.

Aid to Dependent Children or ADC (later renamed Aid to Families with Dependent Children, AFDC) was Title IV of the Social Security Act of 1935. At first it functioned mainly to provide federal grants to help the states maintain their mothers’ aid laws that had been passed in 40 states between 1910 and 1920. With the federal government providing 1/3 of costs, the program offered aid to poor parents, imagined at that time to be always female, caring for children without a husband.

The ADC plan was written by the former directors of the U.S. Children’s Bureau in the Department of Labor, Grace Abbott and Katherine Lenroot. They lobbied hard to get this program added to the Social Security bill, which was aimed at male breadwinners, reflecting the masculinist assumptions and composition of the Committee on Economic Security (CES) that wrote the bill. The Children’s Bureau’s goal was to provide aid to all children whose mothers lacked the support of a breadwinner, no matter how they got to that position.

Aid To Dependent Children: The Legal History

For its first three decades, AFDC operated much like a private charity, with its case workers given discretion in investigating clients, cutting off benefits to those determined to be unsuitable, a…

socialwelfare.library.vcu.edu

Children’s Bureau

Written by Kriste Lindenmeyer, Ph.D., Professor of History, University of Maryland, Baltimore County. The establishment of the U.S. Children’s Bureau in 1912 marked a high point in the effort by ma…

socialwelfare.library.vcu.edu

From the time of the Childrens Bureau until 1965 no one talked about how the welfare state was wrong and subsisided the disintegration of the white family. It was seen as essential assistance needed to help women without husbands who had children. Only when the law required that others be included did the story change to how the welfare state was wrong and destructive.

As late as 1950, only 18% of black households were single parent. From 1890 to 1940, a slightly higher percentage of black adults had married than white adults. In 1938, black illegitimacy was about 11% instead of today’s 75%. In 1925, 85% of black households in New York City were two-parent. Today, the black family is a mere shadow of its past."-Walter Williams

In 1938 During this time of great black 2 parent family morality, the poverty rate for blacks was 80 percent. In 1959, it was 55 percent. These sky high rates of poverty occurred during the time these fools rant about the black 2 parent family. Today due to the " liberal welfare state breaking up the black family by giving them welfare" black poverty is half of what it was in 1959 and more than 1/3 of what it was in those grand old glorious days of the two parent black family.

Blacks afflicted with Internalized racism repeating bs from Daniel Moynihan should not be taken seriously in any discussion on matters of race in America.

Ross, C., Danziger, S. & Smolensky, E. The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979. Demography 24, 587–600 (1987). The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979 | Demography | Duke University Press

Table 2. Poverty Status of People by Family Relationship, Race, and Hispanic Origin: 1959 to 2014, US Department of the Census, http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/data/historical/people.html

Facts!

Black Americans' biggest problem remains racism via government policies and culture from the dominant white society.

Yet you continue to vote for the very people like Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer who keep you poor...Notice how you gasoline prices have gone up, sure isnt making you rich, notice how the taxes are going up, sure isnt making you rich...I used to feel sorry for the poor, but when they vote for the very people who keep them poor, i just laugh at their stupidity...

Now you're just a dumb ass. For you to actually believe that shows you have a supreme mental disibility. If the republican party offered something better we'd vote republican. You motherfuckers are trying to make it harder for us to vote and you're trying to tell us that stale ass lie you right wing racist punks repeat every day. Why in the FUCK would I join a party full of white USMB members?

Now stop lying about why gas prices are going up and stop lying about taxes. The only people working to make us poorer are republicans and we would be extremely stupid to support the Anglo Saxon Heritage Caucus.

Republicans had the black vote for 60 years.
Then they sold them out for the southern conservative vote

Yes, blacks were republicans for 100 years. Then they nominated Goldwater and that was the lat straw.

Blacks started to migrate to Democrats under FDR
Why? Because his programs helped them.

They supported JFK for the same reason

Once LBJ passed Civil Rights legislation, Blacks became firm Democrats and Republicans scrambled to recruit disgruntled white racists

You mean once Democrats started buying votes with taxpayer money Blacks became firm Democrats...right Winger? So how has that REALLY worked out for the average Black person living in our big cities? Is their life better than it was before? Safer? Or have liberal policies turned vast areas of American cities into wastelands unfit to live in?

You do realize what the Great Depression was don’t you?
FDR centered recovery on helping struggling people rather than struggling corporations. That included blacks

How have blacks in the Big City done under Democrats vs what Republicans offered them?
Much better with urban enterprise zones, education programs, jobs training, healthcare, food and housing programs

What have Republicans done for inner city blacks other than build more prisons?

Are Black people supposed to live their lives depending upon government programs or at some point become like every other citizen?

No

But in the US we help people who need helping

And the fact that these government programs have been growing for over 50 years now shouldn't be a concern, huh.

Not as big a concern as the larger percentage of wealth among the one percent or stagnant wages

 

[IM2]

MLK was fighting for reparations. That's why the racist conservative whites kill had him assassinated.

I didn't say anything about MLK's assassination Jackass.

My point still stands.

No it doesn't . You made the standard comment white racist trash makes anytime black say something that rebukes their racidm. You never talk that content of character shit when you post your racist bullshit innthreads with other whites. Keep Dr. Kings name out of your mouth you racist piece of shit because you are being judged by the content of your character. You have shown us that tge content of your character is racist.

So until you start telling the other whitehere to follow Dr. King, you can kiss the innermost moistest part of my ass.

You're the whiniest, most ignorant negro I've ever encountered.

You think I have what I want because of the government. I happen to know otherwise.

But, you know what? Fuck it. I'm done arguing with your monkey ass. I have a really good life. I own three homes. I have six cars and four motorcycles. I own a 51' Viking Sportfisher. I own two successful companies. I'm not "rich", but I'm in better shape than most people I know. And I'm going to throw all of that into your fat monkey face every chance I get.

I'm a better person than you. I do more for others than you could possibly dream of. I donate more money to charitable causes than you make in an entire year. One of the charities was for underprivileged kids in Jacksonville; making sure they have everything from meals to school supplies. And, yes, the charity aids, almost exclusively, black kids. I'm going to stop donating to that, though, simply because I know it's something you would be critical of.

All you do is fucking whine. I counted seven threads you started in which all you do is fucking whine. Whine, whine whine. You're the personification of everything that's wrong with the colored community in this country. You want it all, but you're absolutely petrified by the fear of actually having to work for it.

Fuck you.

I KNOW that everything you have is due to legislation.

You see white boy, I own my home. I have cars. I helped build 3 Not for Profits whose programs have helped thousands. On one fell swoop our advocacy got a city to change policies and as a result helped over 30,000 people gain access to services they would not have had. I have co chaired a state strategic planning commitee and helped develop a 5 year state plan to address a serious health issue. So you aren't better than me, nor am I better than you. But what you have shown your character to be is that of a snivelling white racist who whines about the government and how unfair things are for whites because whites have got to compete for things.

Houses, cars, motorcycles and money are temporary. When you die all that dies with you. You won't be riding your motorcycle into heaven, nor can you write a check for heavenly membership. You're a joke son, and the reality of this thread is the fact that the OP shows that both Sowell and Williams were totally incorrect. Therefore anyone who uses their premise to argue about issues in the black community are incorrect as well.

I don't whine. I state facts. But to the terminally racist, a black person expressing a proven legitimate grievance has to be whining. You can't dispute one word I have said in ANY thread. And if I was whining, it would mean you have credible evidence of how I am incorrect. Instead you namecall because that's all you have.