THIS is what I'm concerned about.

[dblack]

Havent you been paying attention? Youre just typing words that have not connection to reality. Offer me something other than dead wrong opinions.

I'm not "offering" you anything. But here's proof that you're wrong:

The zero sum fallacy — Adam Smith Institute

Ah yes, the Zero Sum Game fallacy returns to haunt us yet again. We can bury it with a stake of logic through its heart at the crossroads, but still it rises from the dead. It’s the one that says wealth is fixed, so that if someone gains more of it, it must be at the expense of someone else having l

www.adamsmith.org

OR, if reading's not your thing:

 

[Frankenstein]

Trends in income and wealth inequality

Barely 10 years past the end of the Great Recession in 2009, the U.S. economy is doing well on several fronts. The labor market is on a job-creating

www.pewresearch.org

Wealth distribution U.S. 2025| Statista

In the first quarter of 2025, almost ********** of the total wealth in the United States was owned by the top 10 percent of earners.

www.statista.com

Nine Charts about Wealth Inequality in America

Bio on one of their writers
Madeline Brown is a senior policy associate in the Research to Action Lab at the Urban Institute, where she promotes racial equity and inclusion in local, state, and federal policy. She is DEI Bish

 

[citygator]

I'm not "offering" you anything. But here's proof that you're wrong:

The zero sum fallacy — Adam Smith Institute

Ah yes, the Zero Sum Game fallacy returns to haunt us yet again. We can bury it with a stake of logic through its heart at the crossroads, but still it rises from the dead. It’s the one that says wealth is fixed, so that if someone gains more of it, it must be at the expense of someone else having l

www.adamsmith.org

OR, if reading's not your thing:

LOL.. You're back on trickle down? Trickle down economics started in 1980 which is exactly when the wealth inequity started plummeting. Sure the economy grows every year, but every year the rich grab more and blame the poor for being poor.

Explain to me very clearly.... if the economy has grown in the US faster than any first world nation and is bigger than any first world nation why is it failing the hard working middle class?

Productivity? Nope, it is UP.. we are record high productivity levels and grew faster post 1980 than pre-1980.

Laziness? Nope, the working class works more hours in the US than nearly any other place with no erosion since 1980.

SO. If the working class works more hours and is more productive than ever but has less share of wealth than any time ever... why is that?

 

[Mac-7]

Sure the economy grows every year, but every year the rich grab more and blame the poor for being poor.

So a big screen TV in every home in lib la la land is no good unless everyone has the biggest screen

 

[dblack]

LOL.. You're back on trickle down?

No. Just basic economics. Have you ever taken a class? Read a book on it?

 

[Rawley]

SO. If the working class works more hours and is more productive than ever but has less share of wealth than any time ever... why is that?

Dude - 14th time. It's not a zero sum game.

 

[dblack]

So a big screen TV in every home in lib la la land is no good unless everyone has the biggest screen

It's just the class warfare shit - aka identity poltics aka corporatism

 

[citygator]

No. Just basic economics. Have you ever taken a class? Read a book on it?

One of my BAs is in Economics and I have a Masters Degree. I am good.

1. You didnt explain why trickle down isnt working.
2. I showed you the outputs from the middle class and you didnt explain how they are losing with hours and productivity up

The fact is you are just typing words. That's why you used a cop out post. The middle class is working harder, is more productive and losing out in wealth and income. Why?

 

[citygator]

It's just the class warfare shit - aka identity poltics aka corporatism

More words without meaning.

 

[dblack]

One of my BAs is in Economics and I have a Masters Degree. I am good.

LOL - if you say so. What I'm saying is that economics isn't a zero-sum game.

1. You didnt explain why trickle down isnt working.

Because it has nothing to do with my post. You're strawman-ning, and deflecting.

2. I showed you the outputs from the middle class and you didnt explain how they are losing with hours and productivity up

The fact is you are just typing words. That's why you used a cop out post. The middle class is working harder, is more productive and losing out in wealth and income. Why?

The copout is the class warfare nonsense. Get a new schtick.

 

[dblack]

More words without meaning.

Those words all have meanings. Look 'em up. You might be surprised.

 

[citygator]

Dude - 14th time. It's not a zero sum game.

Yes it is. For the working class it is.

Working-class wages have not kept pace with inflation since 1980. While wages have increased, they haven't risen as much as the cost of living, especially when considering the top earners' share of income growth.

This is Pre-pandemic. Hasnt really changed.

For most U.S. workers, real wages have barely budged in decades

Despite some ups and downs over the past several decades, today's real average wage in the U.S. has about the same purchasing power it did 40 years ago. And most of what wage gains there have been have flowed to the highest-paid tier of workers.

www.pewresearch.org

 

[M14 Shooter]

So a big screen TV in every home in lib la la land is no good unless everyone has the biggest screen

Its not fair that your TV is bigger than someone else's -- the fact you have a job and they don't doesn't matter.

 

[dblack]

Dude - 14th time. It's not a zero sum game.

It's core to the socialist mindset. They'll never let go of that one.

 

[Rawley]

Yes it is. For the working class it is.

Proving you don't know what zero sum means

 

[imawhosure]

The mid terms are on the way, and then another freaking presidential election season will begin. If the Republicans do well, or if the Democrats do well, that's up to the voters. Hopefully whichever party wins will suddenly realize we're a 50/50 country and will decide to start governing that way. For a change.

My only concern is if this aggressive, punitive, authoritarian administration is going to back off and let the voters have their say. We know the excuse for any of their meddling will be the "rigged election" that Trump claimed, months before the 2020 election even took place.

This is what I'm thinking about -- this can't happen:

Trump administration pushes states for election data, Washington Post reports

July 16 (Reuters) - The Trump administration and its allies are trying to obtain voter data from states and inspect voting equipment, the Washington Post reported on Wednesday, in moves it said had caused concern among state and local election officials.

The Post said "the most unusual activity" was taking place in Colorado, where it said a consultant who was working with the White House had asked county clerks whether they would let federal officials or a third party examine voting machines.

"That’s a hard stop for me," it quoted Carly Koppes, a Republican clerk in Colorado's Weld County, as saying. "Nobody gets access to my voting equipment, for security reasons."

The newspaper said the Justice Department had separately asked at least nine states for copies of their voter rolls, and that at least two have turned them over.

lol, what YOU are worried about, is that LEFTISTS are going to get smoked worse than last time. Don't blame you, seems pretty accurate according to polling data as of now!

 

[MagicMike]

Bullshit, Mac. We have to have secure elections. Democrats cheated in 2020.

Prove it.

Democrats have also been using illegals to pad their representation and electoral votes.

Prove it.
Illegals can't (and don't) vote Simp.

No more. Enough of the bullshit.

Take your meds and curb your hysterics dude!

 

[citygator]

Proving you don't know what zero sum means

Again. Just more meaningless words. The working class has had zero increase in its purchasing power with is the definition of zero sum. Now you are partially right because the wealthy have seen immense increases proving you right, the wealth is increasing… only for the wealthy though.

 

[Rawley]

Again. Just more meaningless words.

Thanks for admitting your ignorance. I won't waste my time on your nonsense anymore.

 

[citygator]

Thanks for admitting your ignorance. I won't waste my time on your nonsense anymore.

It’s clear you are out of your league here. I’ve linked very specific data and asked and easy question. If the working class is working more hours and is significantly more productive but has lost wealth, it’s all moved to the wealthy, then how is that not losing out? Their purchasing power has hasn’t kept up with inflation.