THIS is what I'm concerned about.

[Nuthin' Fancy]

That is the most retarded take on what I said I think you could come up with, try again though

Would it matter?
You're in a cult.

 

[Frankenstein]

Would it matter?
You're in a cult.

Thanks for admitting that not only are you defeated, and don't really know what to type, but that you are a moron living in moms basement, getting bagel bites brought to you!

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Thanks for admitting that not only are you defeated, and don't really know what to type, but that you are a moron living in moms basement, getting bagel bites brought to you!

Like I stated.
You're delusional, a cult does that.

 

[hadit]

OK. Let’s pretend I don’t work for a multibillion corporation that pays executives obscene money. Let’s pretend i am an AI bot. Still, the question stands… how much is a wealthy person’s life affected by paying more in taxes that you guys are SOOOOOOO opposed to making pay more? There is a 99.5% chance you aren’t in that group and will never be in that group.

It's not your call. If he wants to spend that 15K investing in a business start-up or wants to donate it to charities taking care of abandoned children or helping to build a kid's playground in his neighborhood instead of having a rapacious government glomming onto ever larger portions of his income, it's really none of your business. The government and the greedy have no claim to what he's earned and no grounds to dictate how he uses it.

 

[ThisIsMe]

What is the problem with non-citizens voting? I mean seriously. If they live here shouldn't they have a voice? And don't twist my words. I am not saying they should be allowed to vote I just want someone, anyone, to provide a good reason why they shouldn't vote. Should only property owners vote? Maybe women shoudn't vote. And blacks, who gave them the right to vote. I mean do you get the picture?

I mean I can see it now. Fourth grade, time to elect the class president. Oh wait, Johnny, you are in the class but you can't vote, you can't prove your citizenship.

Im not able to determine if this is a serious question.

If it is, then this is an example of why illegals should not be able to easily get here
At first it was "they aren't hurting anyone" and "they contribute to the economy" and "illegals dont vote", then comes the next part "well, what's the problem if they do vote? They are here and contributing to the country"

Im sure having them vote sounds like a good idea to you. I mean, the dems want to bring them in, help them with free housing, medical care, jobs, and then point at the other side and say "those guys want to take all this from you". I'm sure you'd love to import millions of future voters.

would you be willing to allow them to vote if they were all all republican voters?

 

[defcon4]

You're loonier than Trump is

Dear Nut In Frenzy!

Thank you so much taking time for replying to my reply replying to your reply. Please note this: I do not fall for the Trumpistas vs. Bidenistas dichotomy. Since you were so kind, I just wanted to let you know.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Dear Nut In Frenzy!

Thank you so much taking time for replying to my reply replying to your reply. Please note this: I do not fall for the Trumpistas vs. Bidenistas dichotomy. Since you were so kind, I just wanted to let you know.

Evidently............YOU DO.

 

[defcon4]

Evidently............YOU DO.

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Dear Nut In Frenzy!

I am delighted looking at your reply. Thank you so much for sending the cute monkeys picture. It perfectly depicts Bidenistas and some Trumpistas. May I remind you that I do not fall in any of those groups blindly parroting talking points? I'd like to believe that I am not falling for all the yapping, presenting all the gobbledygook on the surface meanwhile all decisions are made by the powers that be for at least 90 % of world leaders. It's a pity that probably Mr. Trump is within the 90 %. Now, the 90 % is just a guess. I pulled that number out of my rear end but it should be a very close estimate.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

 

[Winston]

would you be willing to allow them to vote if they were all all republican voters?

Why yes, yes I would. The bigger question, why can't Republicans attempt to court theset so-called illegal voters? I can tell you why, the want to create a scapegoat, they want to create division, they want to perpetuate ignorance, because make no mistake about it, the Republican party is ******* the vast majority of people up the ass. Come on, the big beautiful bill, preventing any legislation to bring AI under control for ten years? You support that shit?

What is it, the tax cut, $1,700 for a middle class wage earner. Six figures for a wealthy person. That damn $1,700 might cover the increase in cost of your utility bills. In North Carolina, it is projected to be over a 17% increase. But then you got property taxes. I mean "clawing back" education funding that has already been approved and passed by Congress? Cutting federal funding for Medicaid. States are going to have to step in and fill that gap, who the **** is going to pay for it.

 

[Stryder50]

They dont. Follow this chart and see that we all pay the SAME IN TAXES. NO ONE pays more than anyone else in taxes.

Here is a $1M earner and a $2M earner.


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Notice that by the bottom and at the far right it shows the $2 million pay $370,000 at the 37% (which is where the tax brackets currently top out) versus the $156,308 paid by the $1 million, at the same rate, 37%.

The $2 million is paying more than twice amount that the $1 million is and at the same tax rate/percentage.

Yes I see that somehow that 37% becomes Effective Tax Rate of 33.0% and 35.0%

But something else that needs to be considered; the "Rich" don't put their "excess" (non tax) money into coffee cans and bury such in their backyards.

They invest such into business enterprises that hopefully will make a profit and provide an "interest" growth to their money, i.e. create more wealth. In the process they have helped create/provide jobs and grow the economy.

Even when spent on things like yachts, private jets, mansions, etc. they have provided jobs to those who built such and those they hire to staff/operate such.

Generally speaking the Rich/Wealthy do a far more effective and useful "Redistribution of Wealth" than Guv'mints ever do.

 

[citygator]

Generally speaking the Rich/Wealthy do a far more effective and useful "Redistribution of Wealth" than Guv'mints ever do.

Then why do the rich have so much more now than 1980 and the middle class and poor have so much less? The pie is as big as the pie is. If the rich have more, the working class has less. Its math.

 

[dblack]

Then why do the rich have so much more now than 1980 and the middle class and poor have so much less? The pie is as big as the pie is. If the rich have more, the working class has less. Its math.

That's actually not how it works. The economy is not a zero-sum game.

 

[Rawley]

Then why do the rich have so much more now than 1980 and the middle class and poor have so much less? The pie is as big as the pie is. If the rich have more, the working class has less. Its math.

Globalization. You erroneous assumption is that the pie is a zero sum game

 

[Stryder50]

Then why do the rich have so much more now than 1980 and the middle class and poor have so much less? The pie is as big as the pie is. If the rich have more, the working class has less. Its math.

NO!

That's loonie Leftwing nonsense thinking.
The Left thinks there is only "so much Pie" and it needs to be equally sliced out to all. (never mind that human nature is such that many will squander their slice while others find ways to use it to increase)

The Right thinks, and says, if their isn't enough pie, make more pie.

Economic numbers for the USA show that even after adjusting for inflation/dollar devaluation, total wealth has grown in the USA for several decades now.

One can use the "Time Machine" function at this website to get some gauge on that growth;

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time​

 

[Cellblock2429]

The mid terms are on the way, and then another freaking presidential election season will begin. If the Republicans do well, or if the Democrats do well, that's up to the voters. Hopefully whichever party wins will suddenly realize we're a 50/50 country and will decide to start governing that way. For a change.

My only concern is if this aggressive, punitive, authoritarian administration is going to back off and let the voters have their say. We know the excuse for any of their meddling will be the "rigged election" that Trump claimed, months before the 2020 election even took place.

This is what I'm thinking about -- this can't happen:

Trump administration pushes states for election data, Washington Post reports

July 16 (Reuters) - The Trump administration and its allies are trying to obtain voter data from states and inspect voting equipment, the Washington Post reported on Wednesday, in moves it said had caused concern among state and local election officials.

The Post said "the most unusual activity" was taking place in Colorado, where it said a consultant who was working with the White House had asked county clerks whether they would let federal officials or a third party examine voting machines.

"That’s a hard stop for me," it quoted Carly Koppes, a Republican clerk in Colorado's Weld County, as saying. "Nobody gets access to my voting equipment, for security reasons."

The newspaper said the Justice Department had separately asked at least nine states for copies of their voter rolls, and that at least two have turned them over.

/------/ Well, your side has a lot of work to do.

'Dear God': Democrats storm out of vote on controversial Trump nominee

Democrats left the room before the panel voted to confirm the judicial nomination of Trump's former personal attorney, Emil Bove.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Meathead]

The mid terms are on the way, and then another freaking presidential election season will begin. If the Republicans do well, or if the Democrats do well, that's up to the voters. Hopefully whichever party wins will suddenly realize we're a 50/50 country and will decide to start governing that way. For a change.

My only concern is if this aggressive, punitive, authoritarian administration is going to back off and let the voters have their say. We know the excuse for any of their meddling will be the "rigged election" that Trump claimed, months before the 2020 election even took place.

This is what I'm thinking about -- this can't happen:

Trump administration pushes states for election data, Washington Post reports

July 16 (Reuters) - The Trump administration and its allies are trying to obtain voter data from states and inspect voting equipment, the Washington Post reported on Wednesday, in moves it said had caused concern among state and local election officials.

The Post said "the most unusual activity" was taking place in Colorado, where it said a consultant who was working with the White House had asked county clerks whether they would let federal officials or a third party examine voting machines.

"That’s a hard stop for me," it quoted Carly Koppes, a Republican clerk in Colorado's Weld County, as saying. "Nobody gets access to my voting equipment, for security reasons."

The newspaper said the Justice Department had separately asked at least nine states for copies of their voter rolls, and that at least two have turned them over.

Seriously Mac, get a life. 10,000 post a year is truly bizarre, even for a troll.

 

[Frankenstein]

Then why do the rich have so much more now than 1980 and the middle class and poor have so much less? The pie is as big as the pie is. If the rich have more, the working class has less. Its math.

Take your socialist B.S somewhere they will take all of your money

 

[citygator]

That's actually not how it works. The economy is not a zero-sum game.

Havent you been paying attention? Youre just typing words that have not connection to reality. Offer me something other than dead wrong opinions. Look at this chart. Are you able to see what is happening?

 

[Frankenstein]

Havent you been paying attention? Youre just typing words that have not connection to reality. Offer me something other than dead wrong opinions. Look at this chart. Are you able to see what is happening?

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Link

 

[citygator]

Link

Trends in income and wealth inequality

Barely 10 years past the end of the Great Recession in 2009, the U.S. economy is doing well on several fronts. The labor market is on a job-creating

www.pewresearch.org

Wealth distribution U.S. 2025| Statista

In the first quarter of 2025, almost ********** of the total wealth in the United States was owned by the top 10 percent of earners.

www.statista.com

Nine Charts about Wealth Inequality in America