THIS is what I'm concerned about.

Yes the ones who the democrats want to tax to death, again the issue isn't revenue, it's spending, and over taxation.
You are dancing aroud the issue. The working class has been exploited for 55 years. The only one raising taxes on the working class are people who support tariffs.

The rich get richer and the working class continues to scrape by. Why? Has nothing to do with anything other than owners are able to exploit them. Otherwise workers would be getting richer too.

"The issue" isnt government spending. That doesnt affect how much a worker gets paid by a company, or what his benefits are.
 
This site....https://www.democracydocket.com/....has a pretty comprehensive listing of the many ways trumpery is trying to subvert elections. The trump regime represents a full, frontal attack on almost every aspect of our democracy with the full support of The Following.

Much of President Donald Trump’s anti-voting executive order has been blocked by judges. But it’s having an impact nonetheless — by encouraging and emboldening state-level Republicans to pursue its anti-democratic goals.

The March executive order purported to direct the U.S. Election Assistance Commission (EAC) to require documentary proof of citizenship on its voter registration forms, and to require state agencies registering voters to do the same. The order also aimed to pressure states to reject mail-in ballots received after election day, among other steps.

Courts quickly blocked those provisions, holding that Trump exceeded his executive authority in an area the Constitution left to the states and Congress. Other provisions of the order — including directives to make federal databases like the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services’ Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (SAVE) available to state election officials — were allowed to remain in effect.

But across the nation, GOP election officials and lawmakers are implementing much of the substance of Trump’s order — often describing strict new voting rules as efforts to comply with the presidential decree. And even before the order was issued, some states were already taking steps that closely mirror some of its key provisions.

Dems to Fight Texas’ ‘Illegal, Unconstitutional and Egregious Effort to Rig the Elections’​

With Texas set to begin a special session that includes drawing a new congressional map next week, national Democrats say they’re exploring ways to stop the Republican plan.

The rare mid-decade redistricting push comes after President Donald Trump pressured Texas Republicans to redraw the state’s congressional map to help the party hold its slim majority in the House.

“All options will continue to be on the table as it relates to our efforts to push back legislatively and legally in Texas,” House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) said at a Tuesday news conference.

US Citizenship is a core requirement for voting in US Federal Elections. It is both amazing and disturbing how validating and enforcing US Citizenship is now viewed as “subverting” elections by Democrats.

The only subverting occurring these days are tactics from the left to subvert US Immigration enforcement. Why? Because having illegals by way of open borders is a critical component to Democrat election success since Democrats are struggling of late to win Elections with ideas and vision.
 
US Citizenship is a core requirement for voting in US Federal Elections. It is both amazing and disturbing how validating and enforcing US Citizenship is now viewed as “subverting” elections by Democrats.
Democrats do not want the right to vote tied to citizenship - they believe simply being here should be enough.
Of course, this will change the moment they think non-citizens will vote GOP.

 
We can keep fighting each other over party loyalties.
Or look at the extreme difficulty's working class family's are having,
just to be able to grab a piece of the AMERICAN DREAM.
Home ownership, stable jobs.
For us older folks was durable,
Now????
 
Why yes, yes I would.

Its easy to say that when its not happening. Leftys would change their tune if it did. Biden sure turned away those Cuban refugees, those brown people dont vote like the ones hes was letting in.

The bigger question, why can't Republicans attempt to court theset so-called illegal voters? I can tell you why, the want to create a scapegoat, they want to create division, they want to perpetuate ignorance, because make no mistake about it, the Republican party is ******* the vast majority of people up the ass.

No, they just want to make sure illegals dont vote, they want to make sure illegals dont get government hand outs when we have homeless vets and other citizens.


Come on, the big beautiful bill, preventing any legislation to bring AI under control for ten years? You support that shit?

What is it, the tax cut, $1,700 for a middle class wage earner. Six figures for a wealthy person. That damn $1,700 might cover the increase in cost of your utility bills. In North Carolina, it is projected to be over a 17% increase. But then you got property taxes. I mean "clawing back" education funding that has already been approved and passed by Congress? Cutting federal funding for Medicaid. States are going to have to step in and fill that gap, who the **** is going to pay for it.

I dont know anything about the BBB, its thousands of pages of legalize jumbo and I didnt read it. I could certainly quote passages from other people who have read it. So which bias news agency would you like me to use to quote information from that bill for you?
 
This is another example of how ideologues are unwilling to look at the potential downside of actions for which they advocate.

These folks don't worry about increasing wealth inequalities or the dangerous excesses of misapplied capitalism. They just have to say what they're supposed to say. They lack anything resembling honest intellectual curiosity. They don't want to know.

They put capitalism in danger with that kind of ignorant attitude, and that's a problem.
Capitalism is putting capitalism in danger.
You are dancing aroud the issue. The working class has been exploited for 55 years. The only one raising taxes on the working class are people who support tariffs.

The rich get richer and the working class continues to scrape by. Why? Has nothing to do with anything other than owners are able to exploit them. Otherwise workers would be getting richer too.

"The issue" isnt government spending. That doesnt affect how much a worker gets paid by a company, or what his benefits are.
They are willing to pay that price, if they can use the hard R and watch the people they hate suffer.
 
Capitalism is putting capitalism in danger.

They are willing to pay that price, if they can use the hard R and watch the people they hate suffer.
Sadly you are correct. It’s the main reason I am taking my tax windfall and smiling. The working class wants me to have more money. I love them.
 
One of my BAs is in Economics and I have a Masters Degree. I am good.

1. You didnt explain why trickle down isnt working.
2. I showed you the outputs from the middle class and you didnt explain how they are losing with hours and productivity up

The fact is you are just typing words. That's why you used a cop out post. The middle class is working harder, is more productive and losing out in wealth and income. Why?
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You're FOS.


The corporations will do just like they did the last two times, make THEMSELVES richer.

"You all just got a lot richer," Trump tells friends ...

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Dec 24, 2017 — President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier. Mr. Trump directed those comments to friends dining nearby at the exclusive club.


US companies' tax windfall fuels record share buybacks

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Apr 4, 2019 — US corporations spent a record amount buying back their own shares last year, using 2017's tax-cut windfall to reward shareholders rather than to invest or expand their businesses.

Companies in the S&P 500 spent $806 billion on stock buybacks in 2018, blowing away the previous record of nearly $590 billion set in 2007. The information technology and financial service sectors were the biggest spenders, with Apple leading the pack. When share prices plunged in the fourth quarter it only encouraged companies to spend more, setting a fourth consecutive quarterly record for buybacks.


Median US CEO pay hits record $16.8 million on soaring ...

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Apr 24, 2025 — Median pay among top U.S. CEOs rose 7.5% to a record $16.8 million for 2024, a new study found, as big stock grants boosted leaders' salary.
Corporations are owned by the shareholders. They also make the shareholders rich.
My union pension, part of International Aviation Machinists, is invest in corporate stocks and bonds.
My two 401Ks are also heavily invested in corporate stocks and bonds. One of them just reported a 5% increase for just the past quarter (three months) in the value of my account.

When corporations make profits, pay less taxes, many of us citizens and retirees make a gain also.
 
You are dancing aroud the issue. The working class has been exploited for 55 years. The only one raising taxes on the working class are people who support tariffs.

The rich get richer and the working class continues to scrape by. Why? Has nothing to do with anything other than owners are able to exploit them. Otherwise workers would be getting richer too.

"The issue" isnt government spending. That doesnt affect how much a worker gets paid by a company, or what his benefits are.
Actually you and the rest of the Left wingnut talking heads here miss the Real Picture, focusing on out dated Marxist rhetoric.

Wages, money is a minor part of the "Problem".

The major Problem is the increasing difficulty for most people to accumulate real wealth because of the decline of affordable housing, especially home ownership. Biggest villain here is Regulations and most of those result from Leftist legislation and control of regulatory agencies which have increased home/housing costs exponentially in the past few decades.

Locked Out of the Dream: Regulation Making Homes Unaffordable Around the World​

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Next to inflation, Americans ranked housing as their top financial worry in a Gallup survey last May, and it’s only gotten worse. January home sales were down by 5 percent from the prior year’s dismal numbers. Record numbers of first-time buyers are stuck on the sidelines as housing affordability stands at the lowest level ever recorded, while one in three Americans now spend more than 30 percent of their income on mortgage or rent.

The housing crisis is not just an American problem but a global phenomenon that hits the middle and working classes the hardest. Studies of the Canadian, British, European, and East Asian markets have also found that housing prices have risen far faster than household incomes and inflation. A report from the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development concluded that “housing has been the main driver of rising middle-class expenditure.” In prosperous and communitarian Switzerland, Zurich studios sell for more than $1 million and small houses for even more, making down payments unaffordable even to affluent people despite the overwhelming financial advantages to homeowners.

Underlying the plight of home buyers worldwide is a sometimes overlooked but profound influence—the spread of restrictive land-use regulations. It’s reshaping political and economic alignments in ways that may further destabilize the social order. Home ownership is strongly correlated with positive social indicators, and as renting grows twice as quickly as buying, the resulting trend poses a threat to Western democracy by deepening economic inequality, depressing demographic vitality, and undermining the upward mobility that has driven Western progress for the past century.
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Several paragraphs/pages later;
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Threat to Democracy​

Most democratic or republican societies in history—in Athens, Rome, the Netherlands, Britain, France, North America, Oceania—were created and sustained by a broad property-owning middle class.

In the 20th century, middle-class asset growth was accomplished in large part by the expansion of an urban footprint beyond the city core, allowing many more citizens to buy property in spacious, safe environments offering a measure of privacy. The ideal of broadly dispersed property ownership has long been promoted by politicians, both right and left, in most high-income countries.

“A nation of homeowners, of people who own a real share in their land, is unconquerable,” President Franklin D. Roosevelt said.

He saw homeownership as critical not only to the economy but to democracy and the very idea of self-government.

Today, the trend toward democratization of landownership is being reversed, with more and more people being pushed into living in rented apartments or houses, with little chance of gaining financial independence. An economy where most people rely upon wealth transfers from the more fortunate cannot easily co-exist with a tradition of individual initiative and self-governance.
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I strongly recommend reading the full article.
 
Corporations are owned by the shareholders.
SO?

Most people don't own stocks.
They also make the shareholders rich.
My union pension, part of International Aviation Machinists, is invest in corporate stocks and bonds.
See above.
My two 401Ks are also heavily invested in corporate stocks and bonds. One of them just reported a 5% increase for just the past quarter (three months) in the value of my account.
I got's mine, **** everyone else.

CEO's buy back their stock to increase it's value, they get paid in stock.
WOW, you got 5%?
They got 20%
When corporations make profits, pay less taxes, many of us citizens and retirees make a gain also.
Many?

Trickle down has never worked and hasn't for 45 years.
 
SO?

Most people don't own stocks.

See above.

I got's mine, **** everyone else.

CEO's buy back their stock to increase it's value, they get paid in stock.
WOW, you got 5%?
They got 20%

Many?

Trickle down has never worked and hasn't for 45 years.
Hey dumbass, how many jobs for other people are you providing with your Marxist $broke ass ???

I didn't say I own stocks.
The Pension Fund and the 401K management firms own the stocks.
I benefit from their ownership.

A stock's value increases if the company is profitable. A CEO's ownership doesn't of it's own increase the value of a stock.
Only a small percentage of CEO's are in the top bracket and "very rich". Most other's are actually small business owners.

If you knew math, you'd realize that if the value of one of my 401Ks increased by 5% in one quarter, were that trend to continue than it would be 20% at the end of a years time.

What "I got's" others could have if they WORK, smart; and invest some of their earnings.

Trickle Down has worked a lot more in the past 45 years than you have.
 
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Hey dumbass, how many jobs for other people are you providing with your Marxist $broke ass ???
I'm retired

I employed 12 people when I was working.
I didn't say I own stocks.
The Pension Fund and the 401K management firms own the stocks.
I benefit from their ownership.
WTF?

Pension funds and 401k's are STOCK, idiot.
What "I got's" others could have if they WORK, smart; and invest some of their earnings.
Some people can't, they have bills.
Trickle Down has worked a lot more in the past 45 years than you have.
BS.

It hasn't worked ONCE.
For 45 years, you nut jobs have been claiming trickle down will balance the budget.
It hasn't never reduced the deficit once,
 
I'm retired

I employed 12 people when I was working.

WTF?

Pension funds and 401k's are STOCK, idiot.

Some people can't, they have bills.

BS.

It hasn't worked ONCE.
For 45 years, you nut jobs have been claiming trickle down will balance the budget.
It hasn't never reduced the deficit once,
You haven't worked once.
You're another lying SOB Marxist.
I didn't say "trickle down" is what balances the budget or reduce the deficit, assuming you are referring to the Federal version of both.
This is you;

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For 45 years, you nut jobs have been claiming trickle down will balance the budget.
It hasn't never reduced the deficit once,
Dear Nut In Frenzy,

Deficit reduction would happen if anytime Congress and the President were not compromised. Deficit increase has been going on more intensively in the past century, generally speaking. Deficit is the bread and butter of the twelve private banks what comprise the Federal Reserve which is neither federal nor reserve. It is the constant government borrowing for covering increased spending what drives deficit higher and higher. The scheme is designed that bank loans never get paid off but the usury is being paid perpetually.

Enjoy your retirement, don't stress over things what you have no control over.
 
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