This Is Was America

[rylah]

Polarized conformity.
I'll ask again, and explain if You can if that's inappropriate,
but what spiritual void does it feel in the story of the American society?

Where lies the need to overcompensate in such polarizing manner?

We may be coming at this from different perspectives. While they were growing up, I taught my daughters that major problems aren't caused by any one thing--look for at least three, and then tackle each one by one. Remember, they may be more, but here are three problems I see that may be contributing not just to the mobs, but also those behind the mobs.

1. No accountability for our elite political leaders. Examples: Susan Rice, under the direction of the sitting President, went on TV and outright lied to America and all nations that the murders in Benghazi were because of a video. No one ever called her into account. Meanwhile, the Secretary of State who was ultimately responsible for the mess, fled to South America for a vacation because of recurring headaches. Everyone, of course, left her alone. Later when legitimate authorities wanted her emails, she destroyed them all. No matter. She wasn't held to account for that either. Then, it takes FOUR YEARS of investigating before someone is charged with changing an email for political benefit. Meanwhile, the rest of us were expected to pay fines for things as small as parking violations or face even bigger penalties. We certainly don't have four years before the law gets around to charging us.

2. Pharmaceuticals. I haven't been to a doctor in thirty years. The last time I went I had an ear infection and knew I needed antibiotics to get it to clear. I told the doctor the problem, and that I also reacted badly even to over-the-counter products. I wanted the mildest antibiotic possible (and yes, even with this I had to endure the rash). He did not even bother to look into my ears, wrote the prescription and then immediately began to give me samples of new products that were shortly due to become over-the-counter medicines to help with my symptoms. This woke me up to what was going on all around me: People going to the doctor or Emergency Room for colds, for sprains, minor aches and pains--and pharmaceutical advertising for any and all kinds of physical problems. Drug pushers for everything. They got rich while our health (most of which can be cared for on our own with proper diet and exercise) got worse. Medicine wasn't satisfied. They wanted more money, and since not all people could afford this, they simply pushed the government to herd them their way and pay the bills.

3. Family division through divorce (or not marrying at all) and abortion and both parents working. Children shuttled off to day care. There is one foundational cause for all of this, and it is actually covered quite well in the final chapters of Genesis. How can we tell when a society is starting to crumble? Instead of sexual discipline, it becomes very loose and undisciplined. It is no longer sex within the boundaries of marriage, there are no boundaries, which of course leads to unwanted pregnancies and abortion. Unfortunately, the past reveals that all societies when faced with a choice of returning to sexual discipline and saving their society, all chose unbridled sex over what was best for the community. So, we are doomed. The past has been written and therefore, so has our future.

The spiritual void comes from ignoring the First Commandment of God is first. He is before political gain, He is before wealth, He is before what self wants personally. The spiritual void is then widened when our fellow man (families, neighbors, colleagues) become secondary to self. So what if day care is not the best option for children...self wants a career. So what if after a divorce children are shuttled between parents because each parent wants his/her own place. (Why don't children get their own place and the parents do the shuttling?)

What void are they trying to fill? They want to fill their emptiness with a higher power. With no belief in God, a dictator becomes acceptable. They want someone to care for them. With uncaring neighbors, opt for a government who says it will take care of them.

(After all of this, aren't you sorry you asked my opinion? )

Thank You for the input, not at all sorry, asked because sincerely wanted Your opinion.
Only I understand we naturally view things in a different mentality.

Now how do You explain this -

Israel after being established by sworn socialists - is progressively conservative.
America founded on 'Judeo-Christian' values - is progressively socialist?

Aren't our Marxists the same?

 

[rylah]

....prior to the neo-Marxist take-over.



1.There is no way to extricate the intimacy between religion and politics. One chooses one political view or the other based on a religious outlook. Boiled down to the essentials, this is the political choice:

The Founders, classical liberals, conservatives
a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


Fascists, Nazis, Liberals, Progressives, Socialists, Communists…Democrats
b. the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.



2. The choice of one’s religion ineluctably follows, either the Judeo-Christian faith of Western Civilization, or the Militant Secularism of Rousseau, Hegel and Marx. A clear example of the denying religious choice is the Democrat’s forbidding of religious freedom to The Little Sisters of the Poor.

“ In August 2011, not long after [Obama] had repeatedly vowed not to use his health care law to violate religious liberty, his administration announced that it would require all employers to pay for and provide insurance coverage for everything from sterilization to Plan B, a drug whose own FDA label warns can destroy life.” Obama's War on the Little Sisters of the Poor | RealClearPolitics!



“Joe Biden Promises to Force Little Sisters of the Poor to Fund Abortions”

Joe Biden Promises to Force Little Sisters of the Poor to Fund Abortions - LifeNews.com

Abortion activists were livid yesterday that the Supreme Court protected the Little Sisters of the Poor from having to fund abortions. But presidential candidate Joe Biden has some words of reassurance for them. he promises, if elected, that he will force the Catholic nuns to fund abortions. As...

www.lifenews.com

3. Now, let’s get to the ‘was’ America. How very different the Founders were when we see what the Democrat Party has become.

“George Washington championed freedom for Jews, Catholics, and other religious minorities

…Sephardic Jews who had migrated from Lisbon, Portugal, to Newport, R.I.,…. many Jews in the new United States, numbering only around 2,000 in a total U.S. population of 2.5 million when the American Revolution began, found hope in the words of George Washington and the Founding Fathers on religious liberty and equality under the law.

Soon after Washington arrived in Newport in August 1790, [Moses] Seixas presented him with a letter from the members of Congregation Jeshuat Israel. Accounts differ as to how Seixas delivered the letter. An entry on Founders Online, a digital repository of letters maintained by the National Archives and University of Virginia, speculates that “Seixas probably presented it to GW on the morning of 18 Aug. 1790 when the town and Christian clergy of Newport also delivered addresses to the president.” Yet articles in the authoritative Mount Vernon Digital Encyclopedia say Washington actually visited the synagogue during that trip.

What is undisputed, however, are the powerful messages of religious freedom and equality under the law from the Jewish congregation’s letter and Washington’s swift response.”
When George Washington Met Moses | National Review



Today we find a Democrat Party that Marx and Stalin would be proud to call their own, one rife with anti-Semitism and biases of all sorts.

In light of all this, how do You interpret the "give Ceasar what is to Ceasar..."?

In reality, that isn't a question.

Articulate what you are trying to say.

This separation of holliness from one of society's central aspects,
is fundamentally counter to Jewish tradition, while emphasized in Christianity.

We seem to share much in common, but this one, except the other obvious aspect of Christian tradition,
fundamentally runs all along as the horizon line between both traditions.

Has the experiment of "separation of church and state" run it's course to a conclusion?

There's an argument to be made about Marxists-Left essentially driving their ideology into pure religion,
being VERY religious about their beliefs, as in filling some void long rejected by society's consensus.

This separation tears the individual (and national) spirit apart.

"Has the experiment of "separation of church and state" run it's course to a conclusion?"


This represents a glaring error in your understanding.

There is no such '"separation of church and state" in any of America's founding documents.

It was inserted by the man that FDR, who despised Jews, put on the Supreme Court, a KKKer.



The following written by Chief Justice William Rehnquist

George C. WALLACE, Governor of the State of Alabama, et al., Appellants v. Ishmael JAFFREE et al. Douglas T. SMITH, et al., Appellants v. Ishmael JAFFREE et al.

www.law.cornell.edu

It is impossible to build sound constitutional doctrine upon a mistaken understanding of constitutional history, but unfortunately the Establishment Clause has been expressly freighted with Jefferson's misleading metaphor for nearly 40 years. Thomas Jefferson was of course in France at the time the constitutional Amendments known as the Bill of Rights were passed by Congress and ratified by the States. His letter to the Danbury Baptist Association was a short note of courtesy, written 14 years after the Amendments were passed by Congress. He would seem to any detached observer as a less than ideal source of contemporary history as to the meaning of the Religion Clauses of the First Amendment.

The Framers intended the Establishment Clause to prohibit the designation of any church as a "national" one. The Clause was also designed to stop the Federal Government from asserting a preference for one religious denomination or sect over others. Given the "incorporation" of the Establishment Clause as against the States via the Fourteenth Amendment in Everson, States are prohibited as well from establishing a religion or discriminating between sects. As its history abundantly shows, however, nothing in the Establishment Clause requires government to be strictly neutral between religion and irreligion, nor does that Clause prohibit Congress or the States from pursuing legitimate secular ends through nondiscriminatory sectarian means.



From Chief Justice Wm. Rehnquist dissent in

WALLACE V. JAFFREE

472 U.S. 38, 105 S.Ct. 2479 (1985)

Nos. 83-812, 83-929.

Argued Dec. 4, 1984.

Decided June 4, 1985.​

America was founded on the Judeo-Christian faith.

When You say "founded on the Judeo-Christian",
that means a fusion between two traditions of state running?

If that is the case, there might be an argument for a more universalist structure anchored on Jewish tradition, law,
which I fail to recognize, but somehow made "to the Ceasar" obsolete. Not one main national tradition, but the interaction of plurality of traditions in public sphere as a social institution?

What represent the holiness in American Republic?

The Constitution provides for an observance of the Sabbath in its Presentment Clause, mandating that the President has ten days, excluding Sundays, to veto a bill lest it become binding.

And the instrument was framed with a view to the Declaration, which unequivocally bestows gratitude on the God of the Bible for America's independence.



1. The most quoted source was the Bible. Established in the original writings of our Founding Fathers we find that they discovered in Isaiah 33:22 the three branches of government: Isaiah 33:22 “For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; he will save us.” Here we see the judicial, the legislative and the executive branches. In Ezra 7:24 we see where they established the tax exempt status of the church: Ezra 7:24 “Also we certify you, that touching any of the priests and Levites, singers, porters, Nethinims, or ministers of this house of God, it shall not be lawful to impose toll, tribute, or custom, upon them.”

When we look at our Constitution we see in Article 4 Section 4 that we are guaranteed a Republican form of government, that was found in Exodus 18 “Moreover thou shalt provide out of all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness; and place such over them, to be rulers of thousands, and rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens:” This indicates that we are to choose, or elect God fearing men and women. Looking at Article 3 Section 3 we see almost word for word Deuteronomy 17:6: ‘No person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses. . .’ Deuteronomy 17:6 “At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses. . .”. The next paragraph in Article 3 Section 3 refers to who should pay the price for treason. In England, they could punish the sons for the trespasses of the father, if the father died.
Roger Anghis -- Bring America Back To Her Religious Roots, Part 7


2. 34% of the Founders’ quotes came directly out of the Bible, many of their quotes were taken from men – like Blackstone – who had used the Bible to arrive at their own conclusions.”

This doesn’t even include Supreme Court decisions, Congressional records, speeches, inaugurations, etc. all of which include sources of Biblical content and concepts. I can produce those as well, if need be ,as well as what was taught in American schools for the first 175 years.

Bear in mind, the above is not some made up opinion, it is well documented, irrefutable research into actual quotes from the Founders.


Sources:

David Barton, Original Intent, 1997

Donald Lutz, The Origins of American Constitutionalism 1988

“The Relative Influence of European Writers on Late Eighteenth Century American Political Thought” American Political Science Review



There is actually a reference to Jesus Christ in the Constitution.

That's a common attitude towards Bible,
we can pick and choose what fits the narrative, but I'm talking more structural.

Biblical govt structure,
not selective inspirational principles.

Who are Your national priests, Levites?
Is there an "American" Temple?

I don't know what you're talking about.

Is that Your 'Temple'?

What safeguards the holly in America, when people stray spiritually?

I've explained your mistake to you, but I can't comprehend it for you.

What I see is pointing fingers at a common direction Islamists/Marxists/Militant Atheists,

and no introspection.

So let me ask it differently: what spiritual void do these ideologies fill?

"What I see is ...."

Your 'sight' is akin to that of a block of wood.


Who said there was anything 'spiritual' about Militant Secularists?

Strange that You have to resort to personal name calling (projecting?).
Even the biggest lie has a spark of truth and life to it, from which it gets its existence.
All these are waiting to be corrected, but can't if You see the world in simplistic black and white.

So what is the void they're filling?

Welcome to the karma cafe....there are no menus but you will get what you deserve



The beatings will continue until I see the light of learning on your part….and then they will continue for the sheer joy of it.

You're starting to sound irrational and arrogant.

I keep asking simple questions...You don't seem to want to answer.

Get lost.

Remind Yourself that next time mentioning 'Judeo-Chiristian'.
Because just the 'Christian', is exactly why refugees established America in the first place.

So who is lost?

 

[PoliticalChic]

....prior to the neo-Marxist take-over.



1.There is no way to extricate the intimacy between religion and politics. One chooses one political view or the other based on a religious outlook. Boiled down to the essentials, this is the political choice:

The Founders, classical liberals, conservatives
a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


Fascists, Nazis, Liberals, Progressives, Socialists, Communists…Democrats
b. the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.



2. The choice of one’s religion ineluctably follows, either the Judeo-Christian faith of Western Civilization, or the Militant Secularism of Rousseau, Hegel and Marx. A clear example of the denying religious choice is the Democrat’s forbidding of religious freedom to The Little Sisters of the Poor.

“ In August 2011, not long after [Obama] had repeatedly vowed not to use his health care law to violate religious liberty, his administration announced that it would require all employers to pay for and provide insurance coverage for everything from sterilization to Plan B, a drug whose own FDA label warns can destroy life.” Obama's War on the Little Sisters of the Poor | RealClearPolitics!



“Joe Biden Promises to Force Little Sisters of the Poor to Fund Abortions”

Joe Biden Promises to Force Little Sisters of the Poor to Fund Abortions - LifeNews.com

Abortion activists were livid yesterday that the Supreme Court protected the Little Sisters of the Poor from having to fund abortions. But presidential candidate Joe Biden has some words of reassurance for them. he promises, if elected, that he will force the Catholic nuns to fund abortions. As...

www.lifenews.com

3. Now, let’s get to the ‘was’ America. How very different the Founders were when we see what the Democrat Party has become.

“George Washington championed freedom for Jews, Catholics, and other religious minorities

…Sephardic Jews who had migrated from Lisbon, Portugal, to Newport, R.I.,…. many Jews in the new United States, numbering only around 2,000 in a total U.S. population of 2.5 million when the American Revolution began, found hope in the words of George Washington and the Founding Fathers on religious liberty and equality under the law.

Soon after Washington arrived in Newport in August 1790, [Moses] Seixas presented him with a letter from the members of Congregation Jeshuat Israel. Accounts differ as to how Seixas delivered the letter. An entry on Founders Online, a digital repository of letters maintained by the National Archives and University of Virginia, speculates that “Seixas probably presented it to GW on the morning of 18 Aug. 1790 when the town and Christian clergy of Newport also delivered addresses to the president.” Yet articles in the authoritative Mount Vernon Digital Encyclopedia say Washington actually visited the synagogue during that trip.

What is undisputed, however, are the powerful messages of religious freedom and equality under the law from the Jewish congregation’s letter and Washington’s swift response.”
When George Washington Met Moses | National Review



Today we find a Democrat Party that Marx and Stalin would be proud to call their own, one rife with anti-Semitism and biases of all sorts.

"....prior to the neo-Marxist take-over." What specific date?

What was your date of birth?

 

[Taz]

"....prior to the neo-Marxist take-over" of Donald Trump.

Immediately after a fine and intelligent post, we get one of the most idiotic posts in the galaxy .

YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!!

Sure I can. The TRUTH is Donald Trump will beat Joe Biden and have another four years unless the Democrats cheat in voting. It would be a trickle down victory for creationists and creation science. Maybe they'll start to teach it again in schools instead of science by consensus.

So you want school to teach fairy tales as fact or as simple fairy tales?

 

[PoliticalChic]

"....prior to the neo-Marxist take-over" of Donald Trump.

Immediately after a fine and intelligent post, we get one of the most idiotic posts in the galaxy .

YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!!

Sure I can. The TRUTH is Donald Trump will beat Joe Biden and have another four years unless the Democrats cheat in voting. It would be a trickle down victory for creationists and creation science. Maybe they'll start to teach it again in schools instead of science by consensus.

So you want school to teach fairy tales as fact or as simple fairy tales?

Darwinism is a fairy tale.


Here's who says so:

“We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs,” the geneticist Richard Lewontin remarked equably in The New York Review of Books, “in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories.” We are to put up with science’s unsubstantiated just-so stories because, Lewontin explains, “we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door!”

 

[Hollie]

"....prior to the neo-Marxist take-over" of Donald Trump.

Immediately after a fine and intelligent post, we get one of the most idiotic posts in the galaxy .

YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!!

Sure I can. The TRUTH is Donald Trump will beat Joe Biden and have another four years unless the Democrats cheat in voting. It would be a trickle down victory for creationists and creation science. Maybe they'll start to teach it again in schools instead of science by consensus.

So you want school to teach fairy tales as fact or as simple fairy tales?

Darwinism is a fairy tale.


Here's who says so:

“We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs,” the geneticist Richard Lewontin remarked equably in The New York Review of Books, “in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories.” We are to put up with science’s unsubstantiated just-so stories because, Lewontin explains, “we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door!”

Religionism can be a pathology for some.

As usual, when PC is "quoting" material, it's presumed that her "quote" is edited, parsed and out of context.

That's exactly the situation with her "quote" in connection with Lewontin which she selectively edited and parsed.

Here's the full version:

Billions and Billions of Demons by Richard C. Lewontin The New York Review of Books

Our willingness to accept scientific claims that are against common sense is the key to an understanding of the real struggle between science and the supernatural. We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism. It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door. The eminent Kant scholar Lewis Beck used to say that anyone who could believe in God could believe in anything. To appeal to an omnipotent deity is to allow that at any moment the regularities of nature may be ruptured, that miracles may happen.


Not strange at all how fundie zealots are all too willing to lie, cheat and misrepresent to further their religious agenda.

 

[Taz]

Darwinism is a fairy tale.

How do we know that evolution is really happening?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Darwinism is a fairy tale.

How do we know that evolution is really happening?

Put your Dinero where you put your dinner.

How about you list the requirements for Darwin's theory, and watch me destroy them.

 

[Hollie]

Darwinism is a fairy tale.

How do we know that evolution is really happening?

Put your Dinero where you put your dinner.

How about you list the requirements for Darwin's theory, and watch me destroy them.

Do you have all your usual, fake "quotes" locked and loaded?

 

[Taz]

Darwinism is a fairy tale.

How do we know that evolution is really happening?

Put your Dinero where you put your dinner.

How about you list the requirements for Darwin's theory, and watch me destroy them.

Evolution is happening, deal with it. More importantly, how did you get sucked in so badly by the White man's god?

 

[Gdjjr]

but simply observe what is."

What exactly is it?

 

[Gdjjr]

how did you get sucked in so badly by the White man's god?

Judeo-Christian- even tho they are different from each other they reflect the same

 

[Meriweather]

Now how do You explain this -

Israel after being established by sworn socialists - is progressively conservative.
America founded on 'Judeo-Christian' values - is progressively socialist?

I explain by pointing to federal government welfare programs. It is my belief that people should care for people, not a government entity. The federal government should be focusing on trade, transportation, protecting the nation, not the individual. Individuals need to take on the responsibility of caring for the poor, elderly, and ill in their community.

 

[Meriweather]

What exactly is it?

The ideal.

 

[james bond]

Creation nonsense is not going to be taught in public schools.

Creation is what happened. It's the best theory to explain why we are here. The mountain of evidence backs creation and we have the Bible which explains it all. Creation was part of science before the 1850s and it should be part of science once again. Evolution (invented with uniformitarianism and Darwin's explanation of ToE) is a fairy tale based on insidious lies which too many people fall for. Why are you and the evolutionists so afraid of creation being taught if evolution is true? It's because creation upends evolution and points out the lies it is based on. It shows that you know nothing about what you talk of and know nothing of science. How can a bad theory be the best theory? Creation has natural selection based on Alfred Russel Wallace's writings. Not racist Charles Darwin's which led to genocide and mass killings by evil people. If Darwin was right, then none of those bad things would have happened. You know it. I know it. We all know it.

 

[james bond]

Darwinism is a fairy tale.

How do we know that evolution is really happening?

Haha. Is that what you consider the truth? That part was explained by Alfred Russel Wallace who did a better job than Charles Darwin. Darwin was wrong about practically everything and his family racist. He created a racist theory which makes you a racist for believing in it.

ETA: One of biggest things that makes Darwin a fraud is his belief in the tree of life. There is no evidence for it.

 

[Hollie]

Creation nonsense is not going to be taught in public schools.

Creation is what happened. It's the best theory to explain why we are here. The mountain of evidence backs creation and we have the Bible which explains it all. Creation was part of science before the 1850s and it should be part of science once again. Evolution (invented with uniformitarianism and Darwin's explanation of ToE) is a fairy tale based on insidious lies which too many people fall for. Why are you and the evolutionists so afraid of creation being taught if evolution is true? It's because creation upends evolution and points out the lies it is based on. It shows that you know nothing about what you talk of and know nothing of science. How can a bad theory be the best theory? Creation has natural selection based on Alfred Russel Wallace's writings. Not racist Charles Darwin's which led to genocide and mass killings by evil people. If Darwin was right, then none of those bad things would have happened. You know it. I know it. We all know it.

Supernatural creation is not a theory. It is a religious claim. It has no basis in science, no legitimate claim to reason or rationality and is not testable.

“Darwin led to genocide” is just another of the ridiculous claims that are perpetuated by fundie Christians.

 

[james bond]

Supernatural creation is not a theory. It is a religious claim. It has no basis in science, no legitimate claim to reason or rationality and is not testable.

Sure it is. Religious claims are based on creation as well as evolution based on atheism. One can't just remove the science of creation saying it is a religious claim. One would have to do the same with evolution as it is based on atheism. The product is the wrong science of atheism.

Creation science has expanded in 2020 and now has proof of God. The last one is based on the Bible.

The Law of Cause and Effect

1. Whatever begins to exist must have a cause for its existence.
2. The universe began to exist.
3. Therefore, the universe must have a cause for its existence.
4. The attributes of the cause of the universe (being timeless, existing outside of space, and so on) are the attributes of God.
5. Therefore, the cause of the universe must be God.

The Law of Teleology

Teleology is the study of design or purpose in natural phenomena. This law of science essentially means that when an object reflects a purpose, goal, or design, it must have had a designer. Things do not design themselves. This holds true for the things in the universe, which proves that it had to have a Designer.

The Laws of Probability and Fulfilled Prophecy

There are 1,093 prophecies in the Bible that refer to Jesus and His Church, and each one of those prophecies was fulfilled.

The Old Testament contains 48 prophecies that pertain to the crucifixion of Jesus. When applying the laws of probability to calculate the likelihood of several events taking place at or near the same time, all probabilities have to be multiplied together. The chances are too remote for it to be based on probability or chance.

Evolution has similar types of claims based the writings of Charles Darwin. For example, how old the universe and Earth are. The timeline for the Theory of Evolution. How life developed using the Tree of Life. However, none of it can be backed up as prophecies that have been fulfilled.

None of the above is religion; It is real science. Creation science.

 

[Hollie]

Supernatural creation is not a theory. It is a religious claim. It has no basis in science, no legitimate claim to reason or rationality and is not testable.

Sure it is. Religious claims are based on creation as well as evolution based on atheism. One can't just remove the science of creation saying it is a religious claim. One would have to do the same with evolution as it is based on atheism. The product is the wrong science of atheism.

Creation science has expanded in 2020 and now has proof of God. The last one is based on the Bible.

The Law of Cause and Effect

1. Whatever begins to exist must have a cause for its existence.
2. The universe began to exist.
3. Therefore, the universe must have a cause for its existence.
4. The attributes of the cause of the universe (being timeless, existing outside of space, and so on) are the attributes of God.
5. Therefore, the cause of the universe must be God.

The Law of Teleology

Teleology is the study of design or purpose in natural phenomena. This law of science essentially means that when an object reflects a purpose, goal, or design, it must have had a designer. Things do not design themselves. This holds true for the things in the universe, which proves that it had to have a Designer.

The Laws of Probability and Fulfilled Prophecy

There are 1,093 prophecies in the Bible that refer to Jesus and His Church, and each one of those prophecies was fulfilled.

The Old Testament contains 48 prophecies that pertain to the crucifixion of Jesus. When applying the laws of probability to calculate the likelihood of several events taking place at or near the same time, all probabilities have to be multiplied together. The chances are too remote for it to be based on probability or chance.

Evolution has similar types of claims based the writings of Charles Darwin. For example, how old the universe and Earth are. The timeline for the Theory of Evolution. How life developed using the Tree of Life. However, none of it can be backed up as prophecies that have been fulfilled.

None of the above is religion; It is real science. Creation science.

Your various laws of false claims consist of circular reasoning, false analogies, bad metaphors and weird claims to ''prophecies''.

There are thousands of gods that have been claimed to exist before the invention of your gods. The chances of your gods existing are too remote to be based on probability or chance.

 

[Hollie]

The Law of ''I can't believe you expect anyone to tale this seriously'

1. Whatever begins to exist must have a cause for its existence.
2. The universe began to exist.
3. Therefore, the universe must have a cause for its existence.
4. The attributes of the cause of the universe (being timeless, existing outside of space, and so on) are the attributes of God.
5. Therefore, the cause of the universe must be God The Easter Bunny.