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You cultists like to agree with yourselves for some reason.Agreed.
You're lucky. BC/BS largely turned to the dark side ~2008.I never had any problem with them either. It was good insurance.
Once more, Medicare (and Medicaid) limit the amounts that can be charged for medical equipment, drugs, and procedures. That means doctors, hospitals, and yes, insurance corporations - can't just charge you whatever the hell they want like they do now otherwise. Government healthcare - horrors! The Republican Plan - still - die quickly. Democrats - gee, I wonder how we can maximize our corporate campaign donations? It's on us to protect Medicare and insist upon Medicare-For-All. Idiots. (btw, proper Medicare-For-All largely eliminates the corporate insurance cabal from the equation).It gets worse. Year after year, the corporate Democrats, along with the Republicans, are facilitating expanding corporate takeovers of Medicare and Medicaid. The giant and widening attack on Medicare is called “Medicare Advantage,” which more accurately should be called “Medicare [Dis]advantage.” Our corporatized government, under both Parties, has been allowing deceptive promotional seductions of elderly people to take Medicare [Dis]advantage – now fully 40% of all Medicare beneficiaries – which is just a corporate insurance plan with multiple undisclosed tripwires.
Medicare (the core program, not Medicare Advantage) was a corporatist collaboration from the beginning. The numbskulls clamoring for Medicare For All are just herding us into their pens.You're lucky. BC/BS largely turned to the dark side ~2008.
One more, Medicare (and Medicaid) limit the amounts that can be charged for medical equipment, drugs, and procedures. That means doctors, hospitals, and yes, insurance corporations - can't just charge you whatever the hell they want like they do now otherwise. Government healthcare - horrors! The Republican Plan - still - die quickly. Democrats - gee, I wonder how we can maximize our corporate campaign donations? It's on us to protect Medicare and insist upon Medicare-For-All. Idiots.
Go get your schlong cut off and start over, Hayley. You might have a clue if you change genders.You cultists like to agree with yourselves for some reason.
Just another reason why I hope you all donate your body to science. So we can figure out what causes this illness. So we can eradicate it with gene therapy or something.
Bullshit. Originally and ideally, Medicare For All is single payer health insurance. What practically everyone has wanted all along.Medicare (the core program, not Medicare Advantage) was a corporatist collaboration from the beginning. The numbskulls clamoring for Medicare For All are just herding us into their pens.
What a weird thing to sayGo get your schlong cut off and start over, Hayley. You might have a clue if you change genders.
The irony is these people against such an idea say it can't be done effectively. Even though the rest of the western world has done just that.Bullshit. Originally and ideally, Medicare For All is single payer health insurance. What practically everyone has wanted all along.
Not if it's just an expansion of, or based on, the current Medicare model. That setup is replete with corporate feeding.Bullshit. Originally and ideally, Medicare For All is single payer health insurance. What practically everyone has wanted all along.
Does the rest of the world have the kind of partisan shit show we have here? Do you want every election to be a fight to the death over health care? Because that's what you're asking for.The irony is these people against such an idea say it can't be done effectively. Even though the rest of the western world has done just that.
There shouldn't even BE a fight, the system we have is broken and has never worked for most Americans, why is this even a partisan issue? A broken healthcare system treats everyone the same. I can't even imagine someone from a western democracy seeing our healthcare in this country and not thinking this country is nuts. But I also know that this country is nuts, and they are right.Does the rest of the world have the kind of partisan shit show we have here? Do you want every election to be a fight to the death over health care? Because that's what you're asking for.
Agreed.There shouldn't even BE a fight, the system we have is broken and has never worked for most Americans, why is this even a partisan issue?
The current, increasingly corrupt version. Huh, must be why I said "Originally and ideally, Medicare For All is single payer health insurance." JFC! Medicare still beats the piss out of Obamacare though, especially if one stays clear of so-called "Medicare Advantage." Quick, which party originally proposed that crap?Not if it's just an expansion of, or based on, the current Medicare model. That setup is replete with corporate feeding.
But it's the only route. You thinking the insurance industry will magically reform itself or what? As I said before:But it is a partisan issue. Everything is. And until we change that, taking over health care with government will make things worse, not better.
Pay attention and quit whining.The Republican Plan - still - die quickly. Democrats - gee, I wonder how we can maximize our corporate campaign donations? It's on us to protect Medicare and insist upon Medicare-For-All.
The current, increasingly corrupt version. Huh, must be why I said "Originally and ideally, Medicare For All is single payer health insurance." JFC! Medicare still beats the piss out of Obamacare though, especially if one stays clear of so-called "Medicare Advantage." Quick, which party originally proposed that crap?
But it's the only route.
"Medicare Advantage" or "Medicare Choice" or Part C was introduced by a Democrat and signed into law by a Republican. Part D also sucks. Parts A and B still seem fine. Medicaid is also doing well.TEFRA was introduced November 13, 1981 and was sponsored by Representative Pete Stark of California. After much deliberation, the final version was signed by President Ronald Reagan on September 3, 1982.
Still can't care.To answer my own question:
"Medicare Advantage" or "Medicare Choice" or Part C was introduced by a Democrat and signed into law by a Republican. Part D also sucks. Parts A and B still seem fine. Medicaid is also doing well.
If the legislation is written so as to make that largely inevitable, then they will be removed. If you and your ilk continue to just whine and say "can't care," then sure, nothing will happen.People think Medicare For All will remove insurance companies from health care.
Prohibits the sale of health insurance coverage that duplicates the benefits available under the Program. Prohibits employers from providing benefits that duplicate the benefits under the Medicare for All Program. Allows the sale of insurance and employer-sponsored benefits that provide supplemental coverage.
Fine, what's your solution then? Wait, let me guess. Do nothing! Just don't get sick!If there's one thing I've learned in life, it's that when someone proposes a solution to a problem and tells you it's the only way - they're lying.
If... I certainly didn't see anything in the doc below about an entire restructuring of how Medicare works. Indeed, one of the big selling points is that it won't require creating a brand new infrastructure. Which means your 'if' won't happen.Still can't care.
People think Medicare For All will remove insurance companies from health care. Nothing could be further from the truth. It will cement them as permanent middle men.
If the legislation is written so as to make that largely inevitable, then they will be removed.
If you and your ilk continue to just whine and say "can't care," then sure, nothing will happen.
You're a bad guesser.Fine, what's your solution then? Wait, let me guess. Do nothing! Just don't get sick!