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Do the COVID Vaccines Work or Not?

Sunsettommy

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August 2, 2021

Do the COVID Vaccines Work or Not?​

By Brian C. Joondeph, M.D.

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We are a year and a half into the world’s nightmare of COVID-19, also known as the Chinese coronavirus, based on where this demon virus originated and spread from, either intentionally or inadvertently.

We have been told to not wear masks, then wear one mask, then two masks, then no masks indoors. Now we are back to indoor masking and soon outdoor masking, too.

The same “experts” told us that the vaccines were safe and effective, the pathway out of this nightmare. If we were vaccinated we no longer had to wear a mask, at least as of last May, according to the CDC. Two months later they reversed course, recommending mask-wearing indoors even if fully vaccinated.

Celebrities, from Pele to Dolly Parton, are endorsing the vaccines, showing photos of themselves getting jabbed. Yet despite half of American adults being fully vaccinated, cases are rising, as this CNN headline screams.

Do the vaccines work or not? Depending on the day and pronouncement, it is hard to know.

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The vaccines absolutely work for most anyone who takes it. However, the pandemic is not going to end unless, at minimum 70% of the population take it. End thread.
 

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If the vaccines worked we wouldn't have so many vaccinated coming down with the Breakthrough-rona...
That isn't the reason. It is because so many people refuse to get vaccinated that the pathogen has pathways available to mutate and break through "vaccine firewalls". India already demonstrated that natural herd immunity may not be very effective with this pathogen.
 

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August 2, 2021

Do the COVID Vaccines Work or Not?​

By Brian C. Joondeph, M.D.

Excerpt:

We are a year and a half into the world’s nightmare of COVID-19, also known as the Chinese coronavirus, based on where this demon virus originated and spread from, either intentionally or inadvertently.

We have been told to not wear masks, then wear one mask, then two masks, then no masks indoors. Now we are back to indoor masking and soon outdoor masking, too.

The same “experts” told us that the vaccines were safe and effective, the pathway out of this nightmare. If we were vaccinated we no longer had to wear a mask, at least as of last May, according to the CDC. Two months later they reversed course, recommending mask-wearing indoors even if fully vaccinated.

Celebrities, from Pele to Dolly Parton, are endorsing the vaccines, showing photos of themselves getting jabbed. Yet despite half of American adults being fully vaccinated, cases are rising, as this CNN headline screams.

Do the vaccines work or not? Depending on the day and pronouncement, it is hard to know.

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Science is dynamic so as we learn more we may act differently. That is not a weakness of science it is a strength. I believe the overwhelming number (98% or so) of hospitalizations are of the unvaccinated.

I have a niece who was not vaccinated and is now in the hospital with covid. She is young (about 35) and will likely recover but she has 3 kids and her extended family is struggling to take care of them in her absence. Her choice affected many other people that did not get a choice.
 

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American Thinker

August 2, 2021

Do the COVID Vaccines Work or Not?​

By Brian C. Joondeph, M.D.

Excerpt:

We are a year and a half into the world’s nightmare of COVID-19, also known as the Chinese coronavirus, based on where this demon virus originated and spread from, either intentionally or inadvertently.

We have been told to not wear masks, then wear one mask, then two masks, then no masks indoors. Now we are back to indoor masking and soon outdoor masking, too.

The same “experts” told us that the vaccines were safe and effective, the pathway out of this nightmare. If we were vaccinated we no longer had to wear a mask, at least as of last May, according to the CDC. Two months later they reversed course, recommending mask-wearing indoors even if fully vaccinated.

Celebrities, from Pele to Dolly Parton, are endorsing the vaccines, showing photos of themselves getting jabbed. Yet despite half of American adults being fully vaccinated, cases are rising, as this CNN headline screams.

Do the vaccines work or not? Depending on the day and pronouncement, it is hard to know.

LINK
This is a dramatic reversal of fortunes for a country once deemed the role model in handling the pandemic. Just a year ago, Malaysia celebrated as local transmissions reached zero for a few days, garnering praise from foreign experts, academics, and organisations such as the World Health Organization. The Malaysian government’s swift actions to implement a full-scale lockdown, invest in testing and medical facilities, and deploy proactive communication with the public resulted in fewer cases than in the rest of Southeast Asia.
 

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August 2, 2021

Do the COVID Vaccines Work or Not?​

By Brian C. Joondeph, M.D.

Excerpt:

We are a year and a half into the world’s nightmare of COVID-19, also known as the Chinese coronavirus, based on where this demon virus originated and spread from, either intentionally or inadvertently.

We have been told to not wear masks, then wear one mask, then two masks, then no masks indoors. Now we are back to indoor masking and soon outdoor masking, too.

The same “experts” told us that the vaccines were safe and effective, the pathway out of this nightmare. If we were vaccinated we no longer had to wear a mask, at least as of last May, according to the CDC. Two months later they reversed course, recommending mask-wearing indoors even if fully vaccinated.

Celebrities, from Pele to Dolly Parton, are endorsing the vaccines, showing photos of themselves getting jabbed. Yet despite half of American adults being fully vaccinated, cases are rising, as this CNN headline screams.

Do the vaccines work or not? Depending on the day and pronouncement, it is hard to know.

LINK
When compared to older vaccines like the ones for polio and small pox this vaccine is a failure, the older vccines prevented you from getting the virus the covid vaccine does not do that , with the covid vaccine you can still catch the virus just a mildler case and you can still spread the virus,
 

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If the vaccines worked we wouldn't have so many vaccinated coming down with the Breakthrough-rona...
the vaccines only have 83% against the delta virus, when you got it you have 95% against the virus.
the virus changed.
 

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When compared to older vaccines like the ones for polio and small pox this vaccine is a failure, the older vccines prevented you from getting the virus the covid vaccine does not do that , with the covid vaccine you can still catch the virus just a mildler case and you can still spread the virus,
Are right-wingers merely indulging right-wing fantasy by alleging to believe in "natural herd immunity"?
 

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August 2, 2021

Do the COVID Vaccines Work or Not?​

By Brian C. Joondeph, M.D.

Excerpt:

We are a year and a half into the world’s nightmare of COVID-19, also known as the Chinese coronavirus, based on where this demon virus originated and spread from, either intentionally or inadvertently.

We have been told to not wear masks, then wear one mask, then two masks, then no masks indoors. Now we are back to indoor masking and soon outdoor masking, too.

The same “experts” told us that the vaccines were safe and effective, the pathway out of this nightmare. If we were vaccinated we no longer had to wear a mask, at least as of last May, according to the CDC. Two months later they reversed course, recommending mask-wearing indoors even if fully vaccinated.

Celebrities, from Pele to Dolly Parton, are endorsing the vaccines, showing photos of themselves getting jabbed. Yet despite half of American adults being fully vaccinated, cases are rising, as this CNN headline screams.

Do the vaccines work or not? Depending on the day and pronouncement, it is hard to know.

LINK
I really wish you would end up in a ventilator spreading stuff like this.
 

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By "so many" just how many ppl do you think are getting reinfected?

That's a good question, it's hard to buy the spin about reinfections being rare when every day media people are reporting reinfection and praising the vaccine because without it they claim with no facts they would have experienced a more severe illness. Would also be interested to know how many people who have natural immunity have been reinfected along with the severity of reinfection among people with natural immunity. And I'm not interested in studies from other countries but data from the US.
We also need to know about infection rates in illegals Biden is shipping all over the US and how that is effecting spikes in various cities.
 

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I really wish you would end up in a ventilator spreading stuff like this.
Well only trolls ignore the facts they don’t work the fact that so many have got covid even after getting the kill shot.Dolly is obviously getting paid big bucks to spread the lie,I guarantee she did the same thing lying Biden did.pretend to get vacxed when it was really a stimulater of energy or something being put into him.he don’t take no vaccine that the population is dying from and neither did Dolly.
 

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I really wish you would end up in a ventilator spreading stuff like this.
We look firward to you being six feet under from the vaccine shot.
 

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August 2, 2021

Do the COVID Vaccines Work or Not?​

By Brian C. Joondeph, M.D.

Excerpt:

We are a year and a half into the world’s nightmare of COVID-19, also known as the Chinese coronavirus, based on where this demon virus originated and spread from, either intentionally or inadvertently.

We have been told to not wear masks, then wear one mask, then two masks, then no masks indoors. Now we are back to indoor masking and soon outdoor masking, too.

The same “experts” told us that the vaccines were safe and effective, the pathway out of this nightmare. If we were vaccinated we no longer had to wear a mask, at least as of last May, according to the CDC. Two months later they reversed course, recommending mask-wearing indoors even if fully vaccinated.

Celebrities, from Pele to Dolly Parton, are endorsing the vaccines, showing photos of themselves getting jabbed. Yet despite half of American adults being fully vaccinated, cases are rising, as this CNN headline screams.

Do the vaccines work or not? Depending on the day and pronouncement, it is hard to know.

LINK
And yet another politically slanted magazine quoted as authoritarian when it's conclusions were already made before the first outline of the article was written by people who don't have the background to understand the science of the vaccines.
 
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And yet another politically slanted magazine quoted as authoritarian when it's conclusions were already made before the first outline of the article was written by people who don't have the background to understand the science of the vaccines.
Yet another prejudiced comment to put up with since it is clear you didn't read the article or post a true counterpoint.

Brian C. Joondeph, MD, is a fully COVID-19 vaccinated physician and writer.

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