This global warming is killing us!!

The only person doing that is you, you little poseur.
You don't understand basic dynamics, and I demonstrated that thoroughly. It's not even a climate science issue. Basic dynamics escapes you. You're ignorant about stuff they teach in high school science classes.

It's pretty hard to get into the nuances of science when you don't even understand the basics.
 
You don't understand basic dynamics, and I demonstrated that thoroughly. It's not even a climate science issue. Basic dynamics escapes you. You're ignorant about stuff they teach in high school.
Sure thing buddy. There are six people in this thread with some sort of scientific background, and you ain't one of them, and we all have one thing in common, we all recognize that you're a scientific illiterate.

Now run back to your religion thread.
 
Sure thing buddy. There are six people in this thread with some sort of scientific background, and you ain't one of them, and we all have one thing in common, we all recognize that you're a scientific illiterate.

Now run back to your religion thread.
Are you appealing to yourself as authority? Lol

Wow...

Well, if you want to play that game, every scientific institution on Earth disagrees with you. You're ignorant, and anybody that understands highschool physics can figure it out.
 
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You're on a message board of uneducated slobs trying to discuss a complicated topic at the forefront of modern science. That includes you and me.

Better lower your standards. ;)
You’re the asshole who always bloviates out of your massive inexhaustible supply of ignorance.

I have lowered my standards — by even attempting to discuss anything with you, Farty, you useless lump of shit.
 
Are you appealing to yourself as authority? Lol

Wow...

Well, if you want to play that game, every scientific institution on Earth disagrees with you. You're ignorant, and anybody that understands highschool physics can figure it out.
Nope. APPEALS TO AUTHORITY are logic fails, you silly petson.
 
You want numbers? Good. Let’s use them.

Climate averages are typically defined over 30 years by the WMO. That’s long enough to smooth ENSO, volcanic noise, and short term variability. You can use 50 or 100 years; the warming trend still shows up.

Energy imbalance? Yes. Measured at roughly +0.5 to +1.0 W/m2 over recent decades. That’s satellite TOA radiation data plus ocean heat uptake. Multiply that by Earth’s surface area (5.1×10¹⁴ m²) and you get on the order of 10²² joules per year accumulating in the system. Over 90% of that is going into the oceans. That’s directly measured via Argo floats.

Newton’s 2nd Law: F = ma applies to mechanical acceleration of mass. Climate change is primarily governed by radiative transfer and thermodynamics. The relevant framework is: ΔE = Ein − Eout. If outgoing infrared is reduced by greenhouse gases, you get a positive energy imbalance. No mechanical push required; radiative flux differences are energy transfer. Photons carry momentum, yes, but the governing equations are from radiative physics, not rigid-body mechanics.

“If energy is moving, there must be a force” is not correct in the way you’re applying it. Heat flow is driven by temperature gradients. Radiative transfer is governed by the SB law and absorption spectra, not Newtonian acceleration of a bulk mass.

Weather is the instantaneous state. Climate is the statistical distribution of those states. When the distribution shifts, weather events shift accordingly.

You asked for equations and numbers. The numbers are measured. The equations are standard thermodynamics. The energy accumulation is observed. The only question left is whether you accept measurements that don’t fit your prior mode

I'm fine if you want to use 30 year averages ... just be advised that the NOAA temperature trace gives periods of global cooling between 1880 and 1910, warming between 1910 and 1940, then cooling again during WWII and the rebuilding afterward, then our current period of warming ... that would stand as a counter-example to the theory CO2 is the dominating factor ... seems you're not smoothing short term variability very well ... I'm not arguing against global warming, I'm against this notion of climate change that seems to be invisible to all except the cool people ...

I'm with you at 10^22 joules ... but why did you stop? ... did you divide by the number of grams in the ocean ... 10^27 in case you're curious ... 100,000 years for 1ºC warming ...

Basic physics says it's the electromagnetic force that's responsible for electromagnetic radiation ... this isn't a casual mistake ... more of a sign of partial understanding ... the watt unit is defined as a newton meter per second ... newton is the unit of force, either gravity or electromagnetic ... zero force means zero watts, pretty cool eh? ... basic physics teaches the interrelationship between all these values ... force, power, energy, work ... something you apparently are missing somehow ...

SB Law is derived from Planck and not Newton, "irradiation is proportional to temperature raised to the fourth power" ... have you ever used it? ... I used your 1.0 W/m^2 radiative forcing value and only got a 0.2ºC increase ... [yawn] ... if that's your governing equation, then all your climate change is invisible ... because 0.2º doesn't change weather, so it doesn't change average weather, so it doesn't change climate ...

You're moving energy around with electromagnetic radiation without involving the electromagnetic force ... really? ...
 
You odnt understand the difference between reality and fantasy
LOL And idiots like you don't understand what the melting of the arctic ice creates in terms of weather. The extreme outbreaks of cold weather far further south than they used to happen was clearly predicted by Jennifer Francis in 2012.

 
Im not struggling
You clearly are struggling and embarrassing yourself.

You don't know the difference between weather and climate.

Young students learn that first, before climate change is taught.

If you had any shame, you would be embarrassed of yourself. Youre saying dumb things that would make a 10th grader laugh at you.
 
Westwall would go to his car mechanic for brain surgery, that way he would not be appealing to authority. LOL
Westward the self identified "geologist" who rejects all of the science that geologists have contributed to climate science and who rejects the consensus of the USGS.

"Geologist"

Uh huh.

Sure.
 
You’re the asshole who always bloviates out of your massive inexhaustible supply of ignorance.

I have lowered my standards — by even attempting to discuss anything with you, Farty, you useless lump of shit.
Oh my, you are one whiny little *****.

Here is a clue:

When it comes to climate science you know NOTHING about ANYTHING.

So do what a normal adult who isn't punching holes in his drywall and whining like a little ***** to strangers does, and defer to the IPCC.

You're welcome.
 
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LOL And idiots like you don't understand what the melting of the arctic ice creates in terms of weather. The extreme outbreaks of cold weather far further south than they used to happen was clearly predicted by Jennifer Francis in 2012.


And look, she's STILL wrong!
 
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Oh my, you are one whiny little *****.

Here is a clue:

When it comes to climate science you know NOTHING about ANYTHING.

So do what a normal adult who isn't punching holes in his drywall and whining like a little ***** to strangers does, and defer to the IPCC.

You're welcome.
Here’s your clue. As always, you don’t have the first clue about what your attempting to say.

In any event, just because — in your eternal ignorance —you worship and long to go down on so called “climate scientists” isn’t actually evidence of things like AGW.

NIMRODS like you don’t even recognize the difference between cause and effects. You place stock in fake numbers. And you think science is somehow governed by consensus.

Science isn’t democratic, you imbecile.
 
You clearly are struggling and embarrassing yourself.

You don't know the difference between weather and climate.

Young students learn that first, before climate change is taught.

If you had any shame, you would be embarrassed of yourself. Youre saying dumb things that would make a 10th grader laugh at you.
You dont know the difference between a lie and common sense truth.
 
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