This didn't age well

[citygator]

People have a perception of it growing faster. Why? There are several perception drivers:

• Out-of-pocket costs (deductibles, copays, premiums) have risen faster than wages, even though total system growth hasn’t accelerated.
• Employer plans shifted more costs to employees, making individuals feel spending pressure more directly.
• Media focus on drug prices, hospital consolidation, and insurance rate hikes reinforces the idea of runaway costs.
• Budget politics: The federal share (Medicare, Medicaid, ACA subsidies) grew, so people associate health care with higher government spending, even if the growth rate per person hasn’t steepened.

 

[yidnar]

We are waiting on that great Trump Healthcare Plan that is going to replace the ACA, Trump said, "You're going to have such great health care at a tiny fraction of the cost. And it's going to be so easy."

healthcare plans were already better and much less expensive for the average American before the ACA that was mandated by the left ..

 

[citygator]

healthcare plans were already better and much less expensive for the average American before the ACA that was mandated by the left ..

Show me on this graph what you are talking about:

 

[Bootstraps]

He ended 8 wars and who really gives a **** about the Epstein files?

I give a ****. People who molest kids should be exposed and held accountable. But this also isn't the thread for this either so I won't derail it like some people are hoping to do in this thread.

 

[TimFitz]

I remember when Obama told people their healthcare premums would be cheaper than their cell phone bill.

Turns out people's healthcare premuums are approaching mortgage status. You were duped

Obama Tells Youth Obamacare Cheaper Than Cell Phone Bill

President Obama is enlisting young people to help sell the Affordable Care Act.

abcnews.go.com

I don’t remember any of that.

I do remember that the ACA was going to make health insurance affordable for millions who couldn’t afford it (zTrump is trying to being that back).

I remember that the ACA was supposed to slow the rate of health care cost inflation.

I remember that practices that virtually all health insurance companies engaged in were outlawed.

 

[TimFitz]

He ended 8 wars and who really gives a **** about the Epstein files?

He didn’t end any wars.

Who gives a **** about the Epstein files€

Donald Trump does.

 

[TimFitz]

Obama divided this country and I wish he would just go away.

Obama is apparantly still living in your head.

The only thing he ever did to divide the country was be born with black skin.

That was enough for the white bigots, who got even angrier and more resentful when he coasted to easy reelection.

 

[citygator]

He ended 8 wars and who really gives a **** about the Epstein files?

 

[Woodznutz]

Coming from a good family helps. A 'Head Start' helps but it is hardly the only answer. You can go to any Happy Hour that caters to 'Business Casual' types and find Loser after Loser in them. All with College Degrees, many of them former athletes, alll hanging out at the place trying hard to find a soft, cushy spot to land. You know the word...... Networking

OTOH, I personally know people who had a rough upbringing but worked hard at what they did. One buddy of mine was an electrician. Got tired of the 8-hour day, and went and bought a Van and went out on his own. Last I heard he had 40 Vans and 100 Employees. That was before the slow-down.

Another Pal of mine was/is a mechanic. A good one. He worked hard every day until he found a Shop owner wanting to retire. So my buddy bought the business and the former owner 'carried the paper'. He owns it outright now. Dragging down somewhere in the neighborhood of a half-mill. probably Comes and goes as he pleases while his Shop Foreman looks after everything. Last I heard he was looking at a 50' Donzi. At least I think it's a Donzi. And the 50' thing depends on how you measure it.... At the waterline or overall. But, he likes his Go-Fast Boats where I prefer a fishing-style boat. More Sea Worthy, easier to take care of. whatev

Point being, there are opportunities galore out there and you don't even have to ruin your life and your health to take advantage of them

I found a job that I loved but it didn't pay very well, so I saved up and bought an apartment building, self-managed it for 18 years, sold it and invested the money. I still have that job and I still love it. It pays better now as well. Between my savings, SS, and wages, I'm in "tall cotton".

 

[Woodznutz]

What madness is this?! Who is your carrier?

I have an 'old folks' phone, a Jitterbug. I don't need a smartphone, I already have a computer.

 

[Muhammed]

Health insurance for 20 year olds is usually not expensive
Cell phone bills are pretty high

Bullshit. There's cell plans with unlimited data for $25/month. Health insurance policies are $hundreds per month.